Hackers smash Xbox lockout
Micoroft's blocked chipped Xbox 360s from its Live service, but hackers aren't taking it lying down, they've hacked their way in again.
MS just can't win with these people..
yeh, but its the same with both MS and Sony.
take the PSP, they found a wounderful fw called 1.50 so with all the new PSPs coming out with the latest fw people like Dark_Alex keep making downgraders, and also with Sony releasing new features with the later fw like remote play etc. Dark_Alex also keep releasing custom fw.
which means people who have custom fw/fw 1.50 dont have to upgrade to Sonys latest fw which means piracy/homebrew becomes even stronger. but hey its business.
for every action their is a reaction.
yep, i wounder what will happen come fall dashboard update.
Besides get credit card numbers and stuff like that how do they affect the gaming?
for free...that's about it. Some get to use their pirated games on paid accounts and whatnot.
DJ... where do you get the "They play online for free"? Are you letting your @$$ do the talking.... again? So, far the only thing they can do is play backup copies and probably cheat on games like Halo 2.
bladestar is correct, DJ.... well i dont think he has an Xbox 360 so i wouldnt listen to him anyway lol
Sounds cool i should learn
A little tricky!
yeh especially as when you take apart your Xbox 360 case you avoid your warrenty, then if your unlucky to break it/get red rings of death then you wont be getting it fixed.
This is old news, posted yesterday I think. There seams to be alot of double-posted/totally unfounded news gettinf through latley... I'm begining to wonder if N4G needs tighter controls on what gets approved.
Anyways, back on topic, I actually think this is a good thing, for hackers and for MS. It forces MS to step up their game to try and combat this. I know it has always gone on, but this is much more public than it used to be, and it's forcing a reaction to strengthen security and software. Considering exploits in software aqnd hardware are usually how the hackers do this, and MS are forced to fix these exploits, it can only mean better, more reliabvle equipment and software for the comsumer. Let the battle continue!
only backed up games. And running Linux on the 360. But if your 360 has kernel 4552 it can not run Linux. For more info check the forums.
this story is misliading the, it implys that you can get back on live when banned, not true!
this is for people who havent been banned or newly modded consoles
You can't fight hackers. They are the smartest people in the World.
It'll never end, and most likely get worse as technology continues to improve.
I hope they have fun cheating on Halo 2 against the 8 year olds that still play it, and then feeling like they accomplished something. "I pwned you!".....lame BS if you ask me. Pirating games is fine I guess, even if you are helping to destroy something you obviously enjoy.
Hey nobizlikesnowbiz, I'd just like to point out that the vast majority of people who play pirated games wouldn't have bought that game as original in the first place. Because those are people all across the world once known as the Third World. They don't have money for games and even if they did have 60$ for a game, they could never justify that purchase to their parents, friends and social environment with many people starving etc. Buying a console is bad enought. But that comes once in 5 years so it's kinda OK. I know it first hand man. I lived in such a country in the days of C64 and Amiga. Now, the situation is kinda better, but there still is most of the Asia and Africa.
And, I just can't agree that it is a theft just as any other theft, because, when you steal a car from someone, that person does not have his car anymore. So it clearly is a bad thing to do. If you copy a piece of software from someone, he still has his copy. So it's not a usual kind of theft. Let's not use old worlds for new things, just as we shouldn't apply old economy systems and old laws to new technology. You see it's a mess. Noone can stop the hacker, he just does what is natural.
FFS how many times are you fools going to say these modders are cheating at games ? all they are doing is cheating M$ and the software companies out of money (at the very worse), some are backing up their originals and others have to have the hacked firmware if their DVD drive has died on them, thats how I got banned from live I replaced my DVD drive as I'm a qualified electronic technician I was not going to pay M$ to do it, I was playing my originals on a hacked drive, their anti piracy detection is very flawed and unjust to say the least. By banning peoples consoles from live they are giving them the incentive to become pirates and dismiss live altogether.
"By banning peoples consoles from live they are giving them the incentive to become pirates and dismiss live altogether"
I guess Microsoft,one of the most hated companies because of it business tactics and deep pockets, should open thier hearts and let piracy/hackers run rampant? is what your trying to say?
In a way we need hackers, since some feed of hatred for organizations, and some are always in need of a challenge. In a way, hackers make companies better, or at least make them strive to make better secure software and services.
So no company should open their arms to hackers. Neither should they be rewarded. In the end they will continue to hack/mod, not much you can do. I think they should be respected, becasue you can learn a thing or two about your software.
Really not much you can do....it's just the matter of time
Look at the PSP's, sales have been doing well because of HOMEBREW.
just got to say this is very true. i wouldnt have brought my PSP if there wasnt hackers/ homebrew/ custom fw etc etc.
If you tampered with the firmware on the drive you knew that you could get banned, even if you were playing originals as you claim. You broke the EULA, you pay the price, you can't really complain about it as you did break the EULA.
No matter how you put it, you cannot condone piracy, it IS stealing - and stealing from the very people who produce the games that you love.
I personally love the argument of "I wouldn't have paid to play this" or "I wasn't going to buy this game so I just downloaded it", because that obviously gives you the right to steal someones hardwork. If you aren't going to pay to play what a company has put their hard work and money into, you don't have the right to play it.
uberwleiss - If you can't afford to eat, do you honestly think that you should be buying games consoles or pirated games, or the internet connection required to play on Live for that matter?? Seriously poverty is a horrible thing, and I'm not mocking it, but its not an excuse for pirating software.
End of the day I hope Microsoft pass on all of the peoples names and addresses (that they have from the Live registration process) onto the relevant law enforcement agencies - maybe that will scare people off being "leet" and copying games.
I'll say it one last time, in the hope that at least one person might realise stealing, whether it be physical, virtual or someone elses intellectual property, is wrong. You don't pay for it, you don't play it.
Well, I wasn't clear maybe, but by "starving people" I meant the other people in the social environment, if you lived in a TW country. Of course they don't buy games consoles. But there are people with normal earnings, just not that high as in the west. So, when I was a kid, I could persuade my parents to buy me a computer once in 5 years (C64, Amiga) and it was way deep into the hardware's lifespan when the price comes down. But no way I could ask them to buy games for such a high price man. NO WAY. Besides, there were NO original games anywhere in the country. Noone even knew the difference between a pirated game and an original one. Pirated games were (and are in many countries today) sold in shops, legally, there were no such law that would forbid it. Even if someone came to the politicians those days and said that they should forbid pirated games and allow only 60$ ones to be sold, he would clearly say to that person that he's mad and probably put him in a terrible thirdworld prison for trying to "take insane amount of money from our children who just want to play child games". I'm just trying to picture that world to you. Try opening your mind and imagine it. It really was a totaly different world. And don't imagine it as you see it on TV, poverty and famine only. I mentioned people starving, but I meant Africa, not my country, in my country noone actually starved, everyone lived a simple life and everyone had food, but not other luxury things. Something like Cuba...a bit better since everyone had a car and a TV and we had computers, it's just that everything was cheap, not everyone could buy a mercedes.
I, as a kid, didn't even know that there exist original games and that I'm buying a pirated one. And it simply isn't stealing. Because the publisher loses nothing and would get nothing even if he had somehow forbid me to "steal" then. Is it more clear now?
Another thing, you said: "You don't pay for it, you don't play it." and it is clear to anyone who has grown in a capitalistic society, but you know that there were other social systems in other countries where money isn't the ultimate value. Imagine a society where the prime value is that you're good with a communist party. So, in their world, they would say to you: "you're not a member of a communist party, you don't play it", got it? It's just a silly example :D but I hope it works.
Anyway, I really think that it would be great if everyone would be happy, if everyone would pay to publishers for what they play. It's their game. But I'd hate to think that some children out there in thirdworld countries should grow up without video games just because they don't have enough money. Really, it's a no-loss situation for publishers and children are happy. Well, it's not like they don't pay for it, they just pay a much lower price and to pirates instead of publishers. Maybe publishers should sell their software in such countries for a lower price. I don't know...
And those kids are poor mostly because we want to be rich, leeching on their resources and whatnot. Look at it like they're taking back a tiny fraction of what we stole from them in past centuries.
1. have no life
2. live with their grandparents
3. will never have a girlfriend or even get laid
wack it off everyday =0
Yeah, they're a bunch of lifeless nerds, but, in my opinion, as long as we don't see the Halo 2 days on 360 or end up dealing with account stealing, they can hack away.
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