Next HD standard will sport massively higher resolution. The recently unveiled Super Hi-Vision standard features a video resolution of 7,680 x 4,320-16 times higher resolution than 1920 x 1080 (1080p).
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how long will it take until theres anything to support it.
Cable and Satlite are just beginning to go 1080p(its been 1080i for a while at the most), and bluray and HDDVD are 1080p so we have a while to go.
hmmm with this in mind i am thinking Sony are going to end up releasing a too high priced PS4 to support something like this.
i hope im wrong but i can kinda see it happening, especially with this news
if you disagree then please say why as this is quite interesting.
yeh sorry went a bit off track, yeh i got Sky on a HDTV and we can upgrade to HD although it costs £300 (ish) and i wont be able to watch very many channels anyway, so yeh its going to take a while.
As far as I know Cable/Directv are stuck at 1080i due mostly bandwidth issues.
Many like Fox opted for the better 720p since you can get more frames then say in 1080i.
I could see both formats supporting 2k res sooner or later.
But if I'm not mistaken HVD the next gen HD discs will use the higher resolutions.
I say by 2010-11 1080p will be a bit like 480p is now.
Now on to the holographic TV's for some real HD tech.
300 quid for HD?
I got called by Directv to upgrade to HDTV for free. It also includes a free HD Directv reciever and free install. They said my bill will stay the same at $65 a month.
I'm waiting for more HD channels though they only offer like 14 I think.
Yes, now more studio's will start using RED's 4K camera for more then just CGI shots.
We need this new std to even use 4K cam's and beyond.
at the moment HDREADY tvs are available everywhere, yet the percentage of people buying them is going up, but still isnt alot compared to how many people there are in the world. so i can imagen these new tvs being like HDREADY tvs now, but in about.... 7-10 years. maybe in time for the next Xbox/PS5?
HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO COST US.
We'll all be in retirement or dead before this even hits the consumer market.
chances are it will mostly be in the newer OLED, Sed, etc tv's meaning it will be extremely expensive.
maybe they will make LCDs and plasmas in this resolution, but even then it would be super expensive.
It's not going to cost you anything. It might cost your kids--or your kids' kids--a pretty penny though. ;)
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I could see this going for $10,000. No one but the rich will have one of these within the next 5 years.
Doesn't this all kind of fall into the whole megapixel Myth??? i mean, am i going to notice a significant difference between Super Hi-Vis and 1080p on my 40 inch TV??? i don't think so... now for the Huge LCD's that might be coming to production soon (the 108 inch) maybe... but most of use won't be able to tell any difference on our current tv sizes
I dunno if i really will be able to tell a difference aside from if I saw it on the SEDs or OLED tvs. But i guess the question is, on those tv's, how much better does this the higher resolution look compared to 1080p on those tv's?
Of course you will see a difference from 1080p to this new hi vision. Its 16 times more detailed . Where 720p and 1080p isn't that much different.
i was thinking more of how vibrant the colors look etc.
Compare a 1080p Westinghouse tv to a 1080p sony bravia.
The Westinghouse tv's look bland compared to bravia.
then agian if its 16 times more, it will look good.
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I think such device would only work for a niche market such as home movie theater for the rich and famous.
Like jedicurt mentions, for the size of TVs that people can fit in their house, the extra resolution won't make a difference.
I rather think that the next generation of TVs to come to people' houses will have more to do with extra colors, better contrast ratio, thinner, etc.
What In the name of GOD! will I hook up to this?
can your eyes see a difference...
Perfect for the next-generation of consoles with 16X more RAM. lol
This is getting outta hand. I mean 1080p is just starting to come into it's own and now this. I think the only thing that would benefit from this type of resolution would be a movie theater. Even still I don't think its necessary. I just watched Apocalypto on BR and I could see the pours in the guys face. I don't see why I need more detail then that.
pron would be really gross with resolution that good.
In fact it would be soo detailed, that it might stop the addiction.
so maybe it would be a good thing.
LOL -- exactly right guys! What in tarnation will the experience be like if it gets clearer than it is now? I'm watching Planet Earth on Discovery HD on a Mitsu 65" DLP and it looks like I could fall into one of the caves or at least get wet from a waterfall. Are we going to be able to touch the images on screen with Super - Hi Vision?lol Hell I'm still waiting for the smell - o - vision technology to become fully functional.
Snoop, that's exactly right. prOn in Super - Hi Vision might drive some people to barf and run out of the room screaming yelling, "it's too much, it's too much!"
I must say it sounds cool if someone asks what you're doing; and you could respond, "ahhh nothing.....just kicking back ya know...watching Half-Baked in Super - Hi Vision."
that's probably like 1080p res on a 2-storey JUMBOTRON.
not to mention it'll look good on a spanking new 2-storey SuperHi-VisionTV!
probley the 200gig storage blu-ray disc to play a tv show it would take so much memory, the blu-ray players out now couldn't even run the 200gig since they were not built for it
a new format would need to be created especially with the resolution these tv's are supposed to have.
I have been hearing of some format for a while but i forget what its called
it some kind of crystal/holographic-esque storage thing? i read about it a long time ago...
but yeah, with that many pixels, the memory required per frame would be ridiculous. movies would be terrabytes large, and the screens to display these images would have to be extremely large as well, or you won't notice the different, or you could be watching from a mile away...
Not any time soon at least. Maybe in 10 or 15 years..but for now 1080P is going to slowly take over as the standard for high end stuff...and HD TV at 720P will become the actual standard for High Def based on the mandate in the US for all TV stations to begin broadcasting high def in the coming years.
i read somewhere that this makes some people puke from motion sickness. but i have to say really is this needed? how much is enough? i got two 50" 720p/1080i sets and i am more than happy.
Not only are we not even close to full support of 1080p but your going to need a movie size theater screen to see any sort of difference. You also need perfect vision to able to see all the extra details. I can see Super Hi-Vision being a sort of an attraction at a amusement park like Disney Land or something similiar but you'll never see this technology at home.
NEVER is such a final statement, and I doubt you have a vision of what the future is going to look like. In a very short time we have gone from computers filling up whole rooms in a building to having a laptop that you can take to class and toss in your trunk.
I am sure you just wanted to have some type of impact with your statement so you chose the route you did, but next time take into account all the information that history has afforded us. Expect anything and assume nothing.
More to the point, it will be interesting to see if this new technology yields anything useful or practical for the consumer, only time will tell.
It's not only that, but here in Australia - I only saw it sometime ago that there is this other new type of technology that they are calling ( laser... something forgot the other word. If there are any Aussies out there who might be able to recall... ) which states that it actually looks far better than any Plasma or LCD in true HD format can ever offer in any size and it's actually as cheap or even cheaper to produce...
Its impossible to keep up anymore.
720 -> 1080 -> 4320!!!!
Plasma/LCD -> Laser
DVD -> BluRay
XBOX 360 -> XBOX 360 Elite
Nintendo Wii -> Nintendo Poo
PS3 -> Ummmm
All you can do is make your purchase at the time and love it for as long as possble.
This makes no difference for movies or TV. The native resolution of the cameras that are used to film Hi-Def mvies and TV are 1080p. So until there are standard higher res cameras, 1080p is the max resolution for film.
its going to have to look a whole lot better to even consider an upgrade for me in the next 5 years
things like jaggies in games will become a thing of the past.
i mean in like driving games the back of the car will look nice and smooth because of al the extra pixels.
hell the pixels will be so small things will look real
i always though 1080p wasn't all that high def since pc monitors have been running higher resolutions since late 90's.
but this res would ROCK
No-one seems to have noticed that it took 30 years for the stanards of 1080i/p to actually start being used and it even says in the article this could take ANOTHER 30 YEARS to come to pass.
Someone mentioned PS4 being made for it, more like PS7 or 8. This is not happening before we all have kids or maybe even grandkids.
Ultra High Definition Video.
It's used in a few really high quality cinemas. It's not a new technology.
The problem is, this resolution is banking on the same resolution as the human eye.
Playing games and watching movies in UHDV would be unbearable. They tested it on an audience with a short clip of UHDV and most of the people were physically sick from the high resolution. That's right... puking up! Motion sickness. Playing games and watching films in this resolution would play awful tricks on your mind and be at a resolution where you would think it's real.
No screen smaller than 15 meters has been able to display UHDV.
Another Problem is the amount of memory UHDV takes up.. A ten minute clip on UHDV takes up 500gig. They have only been able to store a whole film of UHDV on a quad layer HVD (Holographic Visual Disk) with a capacity of 15 terabytes.
Yes, it makes bluray disk look like a 5 'n' a quater inch floppy, hehe.
UHDV is on it's way to cinemas, but the equipment used for recording and presentation are dangerously expensive and most regular cinema goers will be put off by the intense motion sickness from watching the film.
I get motion sickness off of certain FP shooters but not all of them.
More realistic motion would be better for me.
Or at least thats what my eye doctor said.
I only get motion sickness while playing just a few FPS games..it's weird.
I can track cars, rappel down cliffs, ride rollcoasters, ride those spin and spew rides and never get motion sickness.
i will buy this Tv in 15 years. I can't wait!
I think that this is an important step toward higher resolutions but I think that there won't be a disk format by the time this thing comes around. I think that fiber optics will be common on internet communication and thusly we wil have HD movie downloads by the time this thing comes around. So though there might be tv in it there will probably not be another disk format.
Hell yea gimme a PS4 and a Xbox 720 and this TV and I am set. Haha what an awesome TV.
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