Infinity Ward's Mackey McCandlish has said that the prospect of dedicated server support eventually being included in the PC version of Modern Warfare 2 isn't "off the table" and that the team is "always evaluating (their) options".
Translation: IW: We are just lying so you can buy the game anyway, just like how we shafted PS3 owners from COD4, with no Rumble/Trophy Patch. Seriously though, if you're a PC gamer and you are P***ed that IW has Shafted you, don't buy the game on the PC. dont fall for the trap. just because someone tells you to buy this game cause they're playing it, doesn't mean you should go on steam and buy it at the end of the day, when it still doesn't have the Dedicated servers.
I am not buying the game, PERIOD. UNLESS the game ships with dedicated server support, I won't buy even it if there is a patch that later adds it.
activision and infinity ward has lost my respect.... mostly activision though
You guys do know Infinity Ward can probably pull this off without dedicated servers, right? Why are you guys so freaking whiny about the dedicated servers? They didn't screw you over. You guys screwed them over by pirating COD4. It's OUR fault, not theirs.
Is not going to do good without Dedicated Servers You can't have custom maps, mods, and rooms It's going to limited And if you think COD4 privacy is bad HA wait in till you see CODMW2
Damn, I actually agree with Leon. I don't see why PC gamers always feel so much is owed to them. Both of the 360 and PS3 versions don't have dedicated why should the PC. Their like the spoiled little brats of gaming, always crying and making petitions. Seriously the only people that have a reason to complain about COD is the euros because they'll be paying $10.00 more then everyone else. That would piss me off.
PC gamers are pissed becuase this is a terrible port. I'm sure you would be upset if a game was ported directly from the wii to the PS3/360 with nothing changed. The PC is not a console and yet they're determined to treat it like one. People not only have a right to be pissed off about this but they are justified. They're getting a watered down game and the developer is hiding behind the "piracy" complaint.
There's A LOT more to it than dedicated servers. Go to Ars Technica and read a little... http://arstechnica.com/gami... LackOfVision and Infinite Warts are screwing EVERYBODY with this one, not just PC gamers. Why? We're all gamers, doesn't matter what platform you choose. If we let them get away with this, worst things will come next. Vote with your wallet. It's not like there aren't good games out there anyway. Have fun!
I am a MW2 Objector. I am not going to buy, rent, or even pirate this game. I refuse to support the disdain for gamers that this company is promoting in the gaming industry. Thus I will take my business elsewhere to support development studios and publishers who are more dedicated to the enjoyment of making games, as well as making games that gamers want. Regardless, if you stand with me or I stand alone, I will continue to stand up for Gamers everywhere. This is my vow. Edit: Thanks Kikicub for the link, it's very educational. I'm a PS3/PC gamer (primarily PS3) who sees this game for what it is. MW1 was one of the first shooters I've played online this gen and it was good for a sec. Then I started to run into "Host Left Game" moments and where I'd unload a clip into a guy from behind, eventhough he did not have the health perk, he was able to kill me with just 1 shot, not to mention those fully automatic shotgunners. Basically, this game is the same as the last minus the need to return to the lobby after the host leaves game.... still you have to deal with the "Host left game" wait which could easily turn the tide in a firefight. Not to mention the fact that there is no kick option to deal with team killers, immature smack talkers, and of coarse the next gen of hackers. After playing WarHawk, Socom:C, Resistance 2, and KZ2 I know what it feels like to play on dedicated servers. It's a totally different experience that feels like you, and 18-32 of your closest buddys, are gaming at home. No lag switches to worry about, no "Host left game" what so ever, no lobby hopping trying to find a good match becuase all of them are good. Some gamers are used to P2P gaming and to them MW2 will feel like a step up, but to those who have tasted the pleasures of dedicated server gaming.... this game will only leave a bad taste in your mouth regardless of the platform. Thus I stand by my vow.
See, you just mentioned a few good games. We could have a couple of pages filled with good games. There is choice. Infinite Warts are screwing people, LackOfVision got too greedy. So, I say pick something else! Also, what bugs me is the fact that people are not really looking into what this really means.....
By that I mean dedicated servers should have been an automatic inclusion for the PC version and never even up for discussion for cutting out. The same goes with the removal of custom mods, maps, etc. These are some of the major reasons why PC gamers chose the PC platform to begin with. Taking these features out is a gigantic blinking neon middle finger to that customer base.
The only thing différent is : mouse support text chat some graphical tweaks ( not even everything ) When you play FPSs on pc , you want a pc game not a Console game with pc tweaks ... Because fps on pc are showcases of graphical powers you have on your computer ... Because fps on pc are fueled by the mind of thoses who make mods ... how do you think counter striker started ? it was a HL1 mod .. Mods are part of the PC community ..i can't count the number of mods for unreal , Half life , quake and so on ... Because MW2 is missing features that even Quake 2 had .... No escuse for MW2 ...Come on IW supporters ( i know you are few in number but) try to answer this : What's the purpose of IW.net if the hosting is done on the player side ? what's the point ? This is a serious question .. Any pc gamer is angry at least because the answer is ...: There is no point of this "portal" ...
Im still thinking they will add this eventually but at a price... Who wants to guess that IW will charge for this in DLC for $15 or suhin?
or charge people monthly for it.
Damage control. They're hoping people will fall for it, buy the game and, when they complain, point out they never promised dedicated servers. Infinity Ward think you're dumb.
exactly.... gamers should not fall for it... they no gamers are not happy, and I think they realize they have to do something about it or they will loose money. Ah,,, and people said all this boycotting wont make a difference. at least pc gamers can stick together on this one. it shows they could do it if they wanted. Don't buy the game, make them add server support first! then consider buying it. If everyone rushes out and busy it now, two years later you will still be waiting and they will be saying " we were only thinking about it " Boycott the game !
The only reason they're saying it's still on the table is because of all the bad press about it and all the people who are upset. If everyone had taken the news the way Activision wanted this stated would never have come out.
LMAO,, how frigging transparent ..... without a hard date you are lying through your teeth... say anything to increase sales.. you showed your hand, got bitsh slapped by gamers and other developers, and now looking like the ripoffs you are
disagree....you work for them...LOL
They think people will fall for this underhanded trick so they can later say well we didn't promise anything but by that time they would already have your money and couldn't give a crap about it.
of course they would say something like this right before the game releases. They just cant wait to screw every one over.
All of a sudden, one of the most respected developers in the industry is the bad guy... ...because humans like "mob action". Anything where they rebel against "the man" is cool, I guess. Lols. Shut up and buy the game ya losers. Dedicated servers or not, the online will be extremely solid. You know it will. You just want to be "cool". Grow up.
Pc gamers are getting ripped off I mean I solely game on a ps3 and I feel for them because of what they did with CoD4, like almost all the games got patched for Rumble after the DS3 controller came out but IW did nothing. Pc games always had dedicated servers and should always have them. I mean seriously how would you feel if they removed voice chat from the game or the party system ? its basically the same thing and on top of that the have to pay $60 for a gimped Pc game
looking like such an obvious sheep. Dedicated servers are a standard in pc games, calling people whiners isn't gonna change that. Just because you'll eat anything they feed you doesn't mean others aren't smart enough to smell bs when it's in the room.
I have to disagree with you Leon. Dedicated Servers are a Core-Element of any PC Game. Without it, PC Games don't last long. We're fans of CoD4 and some people like me have been playing CoD since 2003. I speak for myself as I'm a huge fan of CoD and am saddened that MW2 is in this sad state. I'm angered because Activision raised the price by $10 with a smug look, and I'm pissed that IW doesn't look like they're as innocent as we want them to be due to that Best Buy Live Chat. I am looking for a someone to blame, but IW was the last group I wanted to point it at. Faced with this harsh reality, I'm just rebelling with my fellow PC Gamers at this point. I don't expect you to understand how we feel, but this is beyond simple "we're PC Gamers and we feel they owe us." IW is taking a game I love and botching it. That's why I'm pissed. I can stomach paying $10 more dollars, I can't tolerate the butchering PC Version is getting and the lies that their PR is putting out. They're treating us like idiots. Just read the Live-Chat. Just read this article! Just see exactly what we're getting in MW2 compared to CoD4. I'd be happier if IW+Acti just came out and said it. "We're trying to make as much money as possible, and curve piracy as much as we can, we don't give a **** about our fanbase, not even the legit ones". -If they said that, I would be content and walk away. But they're lying about everything and misleading the public about us. If we stop, their lie becomes the truth to the public and PC history is written the way they want it to. If they're going to continue to destroy the games that we love, I want the public the know that they are screwing us PC Gamers over, not saving us. (Seriously, who DOESN'T know how to navigate a Server Browser?)
But seriously how can he tell us to grow up when he barely understands whats going on. I loved CoD4 until i found out they would patch for rumble and trophies, then i thought to myself why wouldnt they do that. im npot buying the game for ps3 either most likely gonna get BF:BC2
I lost all respect for them when the outrageously overrated game COD never was to get a rumble patch. Seriously... how hard is it? The are milking this crap and people are going to herd up like a bunch of sheep and buy it. There are too many new innovative games for me to even give this a second look.
I bought way too many games this year and I was originally exited for MW2 but after all these other games came out I was like **** that I'm getting AC2. I mean what were they thinking when they removed the dedicated server I mean it totally bows my mind to think developers would remove a feature like that, and justify increase by saying its better for the community and go ahead and ignore the community. I know whats gonna happen 1 guy's gonna buy the game and post a torrent and EVERYONE is gonna download it just to piss them off. Imagine your a developer and you see the sales on the Pc version are s*** and then you see the number of people playing is almost triple of your sales
"because humans like "mob action". Anything where they rebel against "the man" is cool, I guess. Lols. Shut up and buy the game ya losers." There's a reason why emporers as far back as the days of the roman empire didn't want to piss off "the mob". Very sad that you'd rather have a body that cares nothing about you dictate how you're going to be gaming in the coming years. A mob is the most effective way of preventing that. Though I know offhand talking to people like you is like talking to a brick wall. It's about time for you to be sheared little lamb.
So, playing the same version on PC that you would on the PS3 or 360 isn't good enough for PC gamers now? They want special attention? Screw you guys! I'm a PC gamer too. I'm getting the PS3 version, but still...if I didn't have one, I'd get the PC version. A sheep goes along with the rest of the sheep. I'm not the sheep here. Most of you are just mad because everyone else is.
Leon, imagine playing a multiplayer game on the xbox or the PS3 without the psn or live.
or better yet. Take console gaming as you know it now. Then limit Halo: Reach or Killzone 3 to 4-player split screen only. how would you react?
lying through their teeth. don't fall for it ! hit them where it hurts, with your money ! boycott !
Leon you are a sheep that follows the flocks to be cool cause every noob and his grandma is gonna buy this game so you think you have to buy it 2 well they succeeded in getting you in on it but i say that wouldn't be to hard.Why dont you keep your trap shut and go play it dumbf*ck.
Hey, I know Leon better than that. He's no sheep, but he is entitled to his opinion. Give the man some decent respect you would give to your neighbors. And yeah, IW proved clearly in the Best Buy Live Chat that they are lying scumbags. They can talk all they want: they already earned the wrath of PC Gamers. At this point, pulling the "Piracy" card is a scapegoat to 'guise the true goal of 100% control over their game and shafting the PC Community because they intend to release DLC and make us pay for it along with their $10 premium for lesser content.
I murder my neighbors...sooooooooooo
LOL! I wish you would murder IW instead. =D Or at least take one of them and beat them savagely.
::waiting patiently for the torrent file to pop up:: No worries I'm murdering them figuratively. :)
Thank you! Seriously though...the PC version is the same as the 360/PS3 version. Why are PC gamers owed more attention?
Should IW have made it so the PC, PS3 and 360 versions were going to be like the Wiis' along with the graphics AND implemented friends codes on all the platforms would you like that? No, you'd say the other platforms are capable of so much more so why make it all like the lowest denominator (the Wii in this case)? All the PC people are arguing from that perspective. Think about it from the other side before you get on your high horse next time.
IW should of taken the ridiculous budget money.
I don't believe something as big an update as dedicated server support would be patched in at a later date, it would be a large re-write of the multiplayer code and matchmaking, I'll believe it when I see it.
Did anyone else think "Sylar" for the first few seconds after looking at the story image?
i honestly cannot happily play this game knowing all the b.s. that has gone on. I will not buy ot pirate this game or any activision/ IW games. My pre-order has been cancelled. It's a shame too cuz I was getting it for $40 after walmart egift card.
PC dumbfu(ks should buy the 360 version and stfu up
I want to go from Hd graphics that crush the crapbox to non HD MW2 with 18 players instead of 40 and that;s if the crapbox will even turn on see pic below if you still don't know let me pay for live too LOL, you are a retard
you call a gaming system.
I think I know why you weirdos hate dedicated servers... you can't make/have friends to play with and the only way to get people to put up with your constant whining about losing and racist homophobic crap is to have a game company force the rest of us to play with you.
What they did was pathetic. I wouldn't even buy this game used. no dedicated servers, no community of modders to make more maps. they just limited the game so much in the PC gamers eyes, One thing Valve did well is allowing for a mod and map community, why do you think that Half life and HL2 has such legs after all these years? why the game is still played and expansion packs are still sold and released? Valve is smart when it came to HL/HL2, the reason they are respected in the PC gaming community so highly. and this freedom is the reason they are so successful after all these years. IW and Activision are short sighted and greedy and it is going to bite them real hard in the end. This whining about "Illegal downloading" (piracy is stealing and reselling. people use that word to make it sound worse.) has been a PC staple FOREVER and is the price of doing business on a very open platform. If "piracy" was such a concern IW souldn't release it on the 360 as well. seeing that the 360 is full of "dirty Pirates" as well.
I'm sure call of duty vietnam or whatever the next one is will use them now because of all of this backlash
This is just IW devs talking like politicians. They don't even acknowledge that people have a problem with them taking away Dedicated servers. Every interview they've done on the subject is to frustrating to read.
It's like they think PC gamers are idiots and try to trick the idiots. "But but you can customize graphic settings, mouse, and etc" Every standard PC game can but wait they got Dedicated servers and mods in standard PC games as well.
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