Left 4 Dead 2 Demo Update Released

Valve has released an update for the Left 4 Dead 2 Demo, now available on Steam.

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Pandamobile3334d ago

They removed the command to spawn the grenade launcher D:<

rawrockkillz3334d ago

Oh but it was fun while it was in there.

Zedux3334d ago (Edited 3334d ago )

patch for a demo? wtf is wrong with Valve first they can't program for the Cell technology because it's "too hard" *cough* uncharted and now they have to patch a demo!

PainisCupcake3334d ago (Edited 3334d ago )

All they did was remove the console command to spawn the grenade launcher, hardly a game breaking bug is it. Also not wanting to code for the Cell is not the same as not being able to! Valve is a small company with neither the interest or the manpower to invest in PS3 development.

Godmars2903334d ago (Edited 3334d ago )

Yes, I'm sure if I were a small developer with a long standing in the industry and the resources of a large publisher as well several popular franchises, a DL service that only prints money, I'd blow off the potential to make a few million more off of a segment of the market just because it would be difficult to translate the gaming engine I've been using and modifying since I was first recognized as an "innovator" in the industry.

PainisCupcake3334d ago

How hard is it to understand that they simply aren't interested? Valve make tons off of Steam so they've no need to branch out, they're only interested in PC development and that wont change.

Godmars2903334d ago

Fine, they can only be into PC development all they want, they certainly make enough money, but then don't piss on something you don't want to work on. Especially when others are making good games on the system. Make you look like a douche.

Poopface the 2nd3334d ago

get over it little kids. Valve is a pc developer first and foremost. They dont need to make games for ps3 and I dont think they should.

I have a pc, ps3 and 360, so of course I dont care. But on this site I always here how people can just play alot of 360 games on PC. If thats the truth than it should be no problem for you ps3 fanboys to be able to play source games on PC. Source is easy to run. Even though its on pc too you people are crying because its nott on ps3. cry cry cry

Im gonna dl this on steam right now and try it out.

dirthurts3334d ago

If you're just going to wine because the games aren't on the PS3, don't buy a PS3! Or go add a nice PC to your collection. It's always awesome to have them both.

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Godmars2903334d ago (Edited 3334d ago )

Now demos need them as well?!

Devs are a fu*in' lazy bunch aren't they?

PainisCupcake3334d ago

Yeah they are so lazy, making a patch and getting it out only a few days after the demo went live.

ElementX3334d ago

Quit being a jerk. How is it that you have 9 bubbles anyway? Let me pop a few with my multiple accounts.

Poopface the 2nd3334d ago

stick to the ps3 news fanboy. you can go circle jerk sony there.

Godmars2903334d ago (Edited 3334d ago )

You have multiple accounts, most likely because like the current underrated one you're using the others are equally rated because of your comments, are going to go to the trouble of accessing them all just to ding me for my opinion, and I'm the jerk?

Its never occurred to you that if you didn't do crap like that you'd only need one account?

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Pandamobile3334d ago

Wow, so many idiots on N4G...

Patching a demo = bad developers? Are you kidding? Valve is a world class developer and no one is more in touch with their community then them.

You guys must be really jealous if all you do is attack them for not developing for PS3. I don't go around hating no Naughty Dog for not developing for PC, or Insomniac, or anyone.

Seriously, you guys are being really stupid.

Godmars2903334d ago

And thus again the argument of how Valve is a world class developer when all they've ever done is mod and improve the original Half-Life engine. Only worked on PCs.

And what reason would you have to hate ND or Insomniac, given that they haven't been around as long as Valve, aren't known for developing on the PC, and have never been called an World class developer?

dirthurts3334d ago

He said he doesn't go around he has no reason to defend himself.
Why are you on here anyway? All you are doing is posting about the PS3. Every comment you've made is about the PS3. The article is about the Pc. There is no reason to bring it up. Goway. And quit hating... : )

Pandamobile3334d ago (Edited 3334d ago )

Are you stupid?

Naughty Dog was founded in 1986, and Insomniac in 1994. Valve was founded in 1996.

"all they've ever done is mod and improve the original Half-Life engine."

Yeah? And some of the best games ever made came from modding and re-using already great engines. Where would gaming be today if there was no Team Fortress or Counter Strike? Mods are a huge part of the gaming industry.

"And what reason would you have to hate ND or Insomniac, given that they haven't been around as long as Valve, aren't known for developing on the PC, and have never been called an World class developer?"

I don't hate Insomniac or Naughty Dog. Even though the last Naughty Dog game I really played was Crash Banicoot, I know they're good at what they do.

And if I did arbitrarily hate them, the same way every Sony fanboy seems to hate Valve, it would be because:
'They don't develop for my platform of choice, bawww'

The Sony fans are just being babies about the whole thing.

Halochampian3334d ago

couldnt agree more, Pandamobile.

N4G is getting pathetic with its hypocritical fanboys.

This is like my first post in a few months. It's gotten that bad

Godmars2903334d ago

No, just didn't care enough to look them up on Wiki or Google. The only reason I do care is that this is another title that fanboys put on a pedestal. That unlike ND or Insomniac, Kojima for that matter, they don't talk bad about the competing system. If Gage Newell didn't talk crap about a system he has no intention working on, I wouldn't give a damn about him.

And if he was such a hot programmer, a demo that no one is going to care about an hour after the full game is out wouldn't need an 11th hour cleanup.

PainisCupcake3334d ago

So you'd rather Valve didn't patch their games when errors, bugs and other exploits occur regardless of whether its a demo or not?

Godmars2903333d ago (Edited 3333d ago )

Its a demo. How much work do you really have to put into it that its needs a patch before its even released?

The only reason anyone would care that it had some redundant code in it is that it could be used as an exploit to either cheat in or steal the full game.

PainisCupcake3333d ago (Edited 3333d ago )

Eh? Before its even released? The demos out now. How can you patch a game thats not even out yet. Your talking as if these fixes were for problems were game breaking when they aren't. What would you be saying if a patch was released for a demo over the PSN? You should be commending dev's for this not critising them, it shows they're commited to the players.

Pandamobile3333d ago

Valve isn't competing with the PS3... I'm sure Valve could honestly care less if the 360 suddenly disappeared. Everything Gabe said in that interview was pretty much true. The PS3 is notoriously hard to program and adapt to. The Source engine, being a PC engine, wasn't going to be easy to port to the PS3.

Godmars2903333d ago (Edited 3333d ago )

I'd be thinking it would just as, if not more, stupid?

Critter Crunch, a PSN title just released as a demo+unlock key but could only be bought. Now, after disappointing sales, the $7 game is getting a demo that should have gotten in the first place. That was just asinine.

And please note that in this case the "demo" was the full game. Not just an enclosed level that's been shown off at a few conventions.

Yeah, I've always said that if MS hadn't made the 360's tools so PC dev friendly, the Orange Box wouldn't have been on the 360. And despite agreeing with me to some degree you're still calling Valve a world class developer?

The thing that gets me is that while you're defending Newell and Valve with the "notoriously hard to program and adapt to" argument, you've got an opposing example from Epic.

The UE is probably just as old and recycled as Half-Life, and yet UT3 was on the PS3 before the 360. Sure in part because MS was over controlling, but that doesn't change the fact that the PS3 has access to mods for the game the same as PC users. Are still getting them though the game wasn't a general success.

There's example of "notoriously hard to program and adapt to" for you.

No Valve isn't competing with the PS3, but they're leaving money on the table by ignoring it. As well as room for another dev to come in and make a L4D clone that might outdo L4D. Not that such a game would sell as well without the Valve community backing it. Nor would the 360 community acknowledge it.

Insult it and all who played it of course, but admit that it was at the very least a decent game...?

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