Forza 3 pack Xbox 360 Elite motherboard, new DVD drive, GPU heat pipe removed.
Very interesting... it looks like they are able to direct the DVD heat away from the GPU with that and probably reduce the fans and overall power... and woohoo for LiteOn DVD drives
I was gonna get a new Elite since I have the orginal 20 GB models but I think I'll wait for the retail release of the 250 GB SKUs. I know they're available in limited editions such as the Forza 3 and Modern Warfare 2 bundles now but you know they'll be replacing the 120 GB SKUs soon.
reduce the fans power? I see this being RROD all over again...the GPU wasn't remotely cooled by that idiotic design. What are they thinking!? I guess maybe the new chips are really cool, otherwise Microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot again.
i think he means reduce the power used to generate the fans, not reduce the power of the fans themselves.
No sense in trying to explain. 80% of the people on this site believe they are engineers.
Meh who cares my 360 has just RROD on me I'm never buying a 360 again new motherboard or not I'm officially now a PS3 only gamer. Time to trade in my 360 stuff for PS3 games..
Cool Story, bro.
first 30 Million 360s with these? That's what I'D like to know. They can keep changing it, but the first (And majority) of buyers aren't going away.
It's about time...
it will fail eventually like the others, falcon/jaspers they all have the same fate... silly micro$hit can't do anything right
if u jump no one would care so do us a favor
Anyone else find the irony in the phrase "NEW DVD Drive"?
actually my jasper xbox has been totaly faultless and im not just saying it so try and win a fanboy war. [EDIT]- 2 disagrees in 2 minutes not bad. well because of the ghost disagrees i assume you have been in my house and played on my 360. wow whats douches this site is a joke but because its a joke it keeps me coming back for some laughs.
^^^^^^We don't disagree because we've been to your house, we just disagree with what you're trying to imply you stupid fvck.
oi the only thing im trying to imply is that my xbox atm is fautless. cant you get to gripes with. wow yet another 14 year old on this site. now be good or i wont take you out for ice ream tomorro. whining and cussing poeple do against someone over plastic and metal is way over the top on this site. you could of acted your age assuming you hav an age worth typing about but you get all 14 year old on me.
instead of Disagree, think of it as 'I dont beleive you' Or I've had expereinces that beg to differ. No need to get worked up on disagrees. I get disagrees if I say Hi 0,0 lol Gotta love the disagree ghost
Looks like it will take longer for the RROD to happen on those motherboards
this nothing i want more info and pics
they have also made it impossible to flash the dvd drive in this one i heard
its just at the moment there is a way, trust me how do u think they got the stock fw on the drive in the first place
There is and will ALWAYS be a way.
the drive cannot be read at moment. taken away the 3rd heatsink as it shouldnt be needed now the console runs so much cooler,also was believed to cause ram failure as the 3rd heatsink was so close to it on the pipe i have one and its silent when playing from harddrive,even after a 12 hour session the air coming out the back is about as hot as blowing on your hand if that. still jasper chipset and such. f/w being worked on now,but this is old news,the 250gb models aint the 1st to have all this in,a standard elite i got was same,anything with manufactor date mid august onwards is like this
I bought a jasper this year and its much better than the original for sure. But My ps3 slim I cant even tell it there unless i look @ it All and all though the 2 ladder units seem much more refined obviously but which is quite nice. On another note the i will never get rid of 60gb ps3 launch tank for the sake of noise. Im saving that suker for life.
i agree. i love my jasper. my dads(im 17) xbox got rrod about 2 monthes ago. microsoft replaced it for free with a brand new yes brand new jasper. cause my dad wrote a letter saying he was going to switch to ps3(not) they throw everything to keep you onboard try it out if it happeneds. i hope not. but yer jaspers should of been the model that released. so finally i can recomend an xbox 360 to people. i know i will get a disagree for me liking my xbox and not owing a ps3 but i will gladly lose a bubble or 5 to have my say. peace
My Elite 360 is typically on 14-18 hours a day and it has almost zero heat signature and the exhaust is barely warm. I am very pleased with my personal experience with the 360.
Liking the Xbox 360 isn't a crime. I like my 360, but have had horrible luck with the hardware. If I had your experiences I'd probably still be gaming on my 360, buying all my titles for the 360 and so on but I've been burned too many times to continue to support the 360. Nobody has issues with people for simply liking the 360. It's a great system, when it's working. I think what people take issue with is when others say "I like the 360 and everyone else who doesn't is dumb" or the opposite with the "like the ps3 and everyone else is dumb." That's the type comments that get spewed out so often, and personally I wouldn't consider those people gamers.
a bad design is a bad design..that is the whole story in the nutshell with the 360. MS was told they would have a heat problem, this is a fact. If you dont believe this was a fact, than you are saying MS is more inedpt, in not knowing or testing properly. Either way the 360 design was the worst in the history of video games. Another fact...since NO other console ever had such high failure rates AND no other console has gone through so many hardware fixes (NOT IMPROVEMENTS (now a new mother board) mid way through the consoles lifespan
Every console since the 2600 has gone through board revisions more than once/twice. It only serves to cut costs and improve reliability. 360 has been getting better. The design isnt really so bad. They obviously have been going back and changing placement of components that were more prone to issues where they were. If anything, the board revisions are leading to an eventual release of a slimmer less power hungry/heat creating unit.
board replacements to cut the cost of manufacturing over time VS board replacements for defective design....2 TOTALLY diff. animals
Who cares? Seriously almost 4 yrs into the life cycle and were still chiming up about hardware? Xbox has great software, just move on about the hardware its wasteful news now, its shoddy hardware eithier way,next gen maybe overall they will have it right Maybe next time they will test their console hardware like they do their Hard drives since its their reason for the HD prices being high, lol still get a kick out of that one
Great software you say? I haven't had a decent game to buy for my 360 this year. I'm not a big sci fi shooter fan, so odst was a no go for me.
yep ODST sucks........ Hopefully next month things will change with the release of L4D2 and did i mention that the demo is incredible???? Zombies actually drop their guts when you shoot them in the stomach. Anyways i cant wait for L4D2!
So all the great looking games coming out for 360 and already out for it suck? Just because PS3 has some good games coming out doesn't mean everything else is inferior lol.
Three years of warranty is all i need to justify the purchase.. While some may disagree,if something ever goes wrong with it all i have to do is make get red rings and i get a new one.. I know several people who have done that including my brother and they always send a new one in less than two weeks i think of it as a tune up every two years.
New components, same old problems.
new account, same old troll
No, Troll_Police actually speaks the God honest truth!
How many accounts do you guys actually have lol? I bet all 3 of you are the same person.
Nah I am my own troll heh heh heh
Dont forget that you got 3 years warrenty on rrod.
Statistically I wonder what the jasper fail rate is because mine seems pretty nice when I play on it. But then again my ps3 is the work horse around these parts.
got like 173 hours of gameplay on that game, still playin too. epic game. to bad they didnt ship enough copies of that game. alot of people are being deprived of ds cause its hella sold out everywhere on a side note 360 right now has crap software, dont pretend this is last year we both know the ps3 is where the software is and hardware. any game the rest of the year is comin out for ps3 too. alot of people accuse other n4g users for holding on to the rrod, but yet those same people try to hang on to the ps3 has no games or its teh doomed. gotta love hypicrites.in conclusion the 360 will not win this christmas, itll be guarenteed last place. people in these times cannot turn away a bluray player especially with the attach rate of flat screen tvs these days increasing. and why would anybody by gaming console that plays dvds, plus everyone by now has caught on to the insanely priced add ons that makes the console almost double ps3's price and it still wont have blu ray. and blu ray is amazing. bd live is quite a neat feature, imo owns teh 1080p streaming that is comin to the ps3 too. ouch i thought microsoft was the only company that could steal other companies exclusive deals. net flix is just smart they know more users use the ps3 as a actual media hub and online is free. honestly net flix doesnt effect me, but its still funny that its not exclusive to microsoft anymore and it was just announced recently. and people dont actually think that having a 3 year warrantee is a good thing like geez a console should last for three years min lol my launch 60gb is still kickin it, like brand new. and people do understand if your 360 breaks and u send it away, you have no console to play. like am i the only one who thinks that those kinds of situations are high,y avoidable by not being a morn and buying a ps3. its like stupid people that by cheap phones like v-tech and they suck and they break, just garbage. what they dont realise if you pay alittle more for the panisonic phone you pay more up front but you get a solid reliable phone and you save money and bull crap time using a crappy phone. thats eactlty why i paid 740 dollars canadian with tax, for my launch 60gb ps3. it was worth it. i was so excited when i first got it. it was a shame the initial 2 years failed to provide decent games. but look at it now. definately figured out the cell thats for sure. if only naughty dog could make a "making quality games on the ps3 and fully utilizing the cell for dummies" and then give it to valve. if naughty dog was as douchebagish as turn 10 they might do it, unfortunately for us theyre not so i guess no decent games from valve on the ps3 in the near future, well will see how the holiday season goes if ps3 comes on top im sure valve will run to sony and accept theyre help. anyways the 360 if you think about it is a huge fail and whats even more fail is the people that kept supporting a console with 33% failure rate, and introduction to exticnt hd dvd add ons after that i would have walked a way from ms and the 360. i know i know its teh live teh live all my friends are on it. whatever ur missing out things are free and looking really good over here on psn. you can join if you change your mind. mag will be waiting for you, and dont worry youll also have 255 new friends waiting too. well back to play some demon's souls man favorite game ever while its tied with uncharted 2, and odst hahaha man i cant even say odst was my fav game without laughing i dont know how any one could. im just kidding odst sucks and the firefight is a pointless waste of time. and repetive.
thats a nice wall of text didnt read it but it is impressive to look at
for the disagree-- ITS A JOKE no harm intended
Have to admit, it is a nice tl;dr wall of text. But I'm not actually going to read what it says.
they said no more rrod or error e74 when they added falcon and new heat sinks and jaspers and etc, this is rrod aswell, sad indeed
Yeah but at least they give you warranty for said problems! 3 years worth and what about Sony and the dreaded YLOD??? There is no extra coverage for that problem. Once your year is up thats it you are S.O.L.
sonys fail rate is very Ultra low, thats why, and yellow light comes from abuse of console, it never happens day 1 like 360. i know only 1 customer at gamecrazy who had a yellow light....while almost every single 360 owner has gone thru multiple 360's some even up to 8 consoles. if MS didnt put 3 yr warranty they wud be sued even more than they r now. 54% is a probalem (360) and thats just RROD not counting dvd read failure or error e 74 percentages so yeah MS knows the 360 sux hardware wise why else wud they put a 3 yr warranty? no other company in the world has done that or has stood in bussiness with a prob that bad before *@below* Lmao for real
this time will be different. trust me. (make that apple commercial a sony one) @above: seriously now, sony should hire apple's agency.
i feel bad for people that got a ps3 that broke after a year, unfortuneately they were the minority that fell in the 10%, but when your 360 dies you are not in the minority you are a majority. and no matter how many people say theyre ps3 crapped out on them after warrentee it doesnt matter cause they still only make up 10% failure rate which is really good. a 3 year warantee on a console isnt supposed to exist. basically its a company admitting theyre product sucks especially if they were threatened and push to do it. 1 year is reasonable for a console that has a low failure rate. you actually dont even realize why ur 360 is warranteed for that long its cuz its most likely not gunna make it to three years and theyre just covering theyre asses. its not a good thing. some consumers are just morons thats all. xbox 360 should have been doomed. if consumers werent morons. the onlt way rrod is not going exist guess what yeah you guessed it can you say xbox 1 all over again. do you really think once ms makes a new console theyre gunna support the piece of garbage called a 360 no. geez dont be so dumb and act surprised when it happends. you know that feeling when you can sense the its gunna rain or snow well i can sense another xbox 1 fiasco occurring in the near future. sony has hit the nitros baby and is gaining on the 360 fast while the 360 already used theyre noz. maybe games on the 360 will sell decent but consoles are fizzling out and they cant lower the price again and aslong as the 360 and ps3 are at the same price the majority of people will choose the ps3.
@Midgard228 I would imagine that the majority of DRE and YLOD consumers would disagree with your expert opinion that they must have abused their consoles for them to break.
360 is already dead so why is M$ putting a new motherboard in side it for, no matter what they do its going to fail and there going to be even more RROD in the end.
If there is a new motherboard onboard then recent statements about having things fixed were a lie thus this new step has come along. And if there is a new motherboard onboard then maybe this is a step in the right direction so that future statements can actually be honest, but given the ammount of times they have cried wolf so far I honestly can't believe them or forgive them for the overwhelming and constant deceit.
Hardware goes through revisions to cut costs all the time. Were Sony's multiple PS3 motherboard revisions simply to reduce the chance of hardware failure? Please stop trolling.
Nice Try Troll - takes one to know one, right :)
it still look like a cheap pc motherboard
but it is a half azz motherboard from a pc .
Watch and comment
I agree with you it shows that M$ just doesn't cure about their fan base what so ever on there console and there always overpaiding the consumer like crazy.
or that same old tat the overheats? More info is required!
3rd (or more) time's a charm!
I'll wait 6 months to see the results. If there are no complaints, I may consider if I want to try out Alan Wake and Splinter Cell: Conviction.
won't the 360 overheat MORE???!!!
No more RROD? =D!! cz it'd be silly trying to sectretly increase the console's preformance.
the people that had a fail 360 gonna buy this one, hahahaaa lmfao
For the people that want to know what happen I'll try to explain very simple. First there isn't anything wrong with the 360 design period. The problem was traced to the fill material being supplied to the company making the GPU. The material kept the heat from escaping normally, causing the GPU support board to warp and break the solder joints. The Falcon GPU was a redesign and the first ones were made in Canada, these GPUs worked great, the process was moved to the original company using the wrong fill material and you guessed it, the problem returned. The problem was finally found and correct with the Jasper GPUs.
I just want a super quite machine please. Turning on my PS3, then turning on my 360 makes my ears bleed
If it wasn't for the RRoD, the 360 would be dead by now. All those extra sales have saved the 360 for an early death.