Gamers are in an uproar about the price of some downloadable content. But is it really a raw deal?
I think xbox live is a rip. So you pay to use your own internet to play games. A bunch of BS to me. You guys keep paying and Ill have my ps3 and keep playing. Best 600 bucks i ever spent coimming outta the box.
and what you get out of the box... is a brand new BLU-RAY PLAYER!!!!!
maybe you should read the article.
You buy a $600 console that doesn't have a respectable library of games (yet) and complain about paying $50 a year for LIVE? Irony. People spend more on cigarettes, fast food and other junk that gives them pleasure. Free is always great and all, but $50 for a year isn't asking too much. On the other hand, I do think the pricing on some things is a bit high, like TV episodes, XBLA games that are 20 years old ($5?) and a lot of the DLC content available for games (like the upcoming Worms DLC -- almost $5 for 2 landscapes that should have been included in the first place). Themes and gamer pics should be free, also. Most of them suck anyway. Despite all that, I'm content with the service. If I heard correctly, EA's games have dedicated servers.
I'm asking this as an honest question, I'm not trying to prove a point here, but will all PS3's games have dedicated servers? I know Motor Storm has dedicated servers, but what about RFoM and any other online games?
RFOM has dedicated servers w/ 40 player matches, and even though ps3s service is free and the dedicated servers are nothing less than great, i miss having the unified friends list, the ability to access the dashboard menu in play and people talking, i think its too much hassle for people to use blue tooth and when you do people still dont talk, ruining the team experience and connection from the 360, they both have drawbacks, and their constantly working on them, so they will only get better (Im satisfied with xbl's content, i love it)
Try to stay with me here, without allowing fanboyism take over. XBL cost you approx .14 cents a day. That's 6 one hundreds of a cent per hour. Hear are some of the things people spend money on without even giving it a second thought. The average person pay 40 bucks per week on gasoline for their SUV. (wow that's equal to 286 days of XBL.) Taking your girl to a movie with refreshments, 30 -40 bucks. Morning capacino 3.50 (Geez, that's 25 days of XBL.)
All I'm trying to say is it's not that much to pay 50 PER YEAR for something that you enjoy having. A lot of PS3 users tend to use the cost of XBL as a weapon during flamewars. When I bought my PS3 I had to go out and get an HDMI cable (39 bucks) that translates to 279 days I could have used on XBL. Now, lets say you're like me an owns both systems, the 600.00 I spent on my PS3 equates to a whopping 4286 days or almost 12 YEARS of XBL. Now, does 600.00 sound expensive for 12 years of any kind of service that you enjoy having? It doesn't to me!
It's all just a matter of perspective.
if something is expensive and i disagree with the price i don't buy it... simple enough... same in any store, if its too expensive for you don't buy it.
The service itself is great and the amount of content that gets put up (quickly compared to the delay of getting trailers/demos on psn) is great.
if you buy everything then you are getting ripped... but the thing is, most of the time you don't have to... in fact, outside multiplayer map packs (which you should pay for because they are expansions) no DLC is really required (and even the map packs aren't... but just lame to play online w/o them)
If you wait long enough some of it will roll to free also, or they will have a specail weekend where you can get it for free. Additional content created by the developers (stuff that was not created when the original game was built) should be charged for as you say since the company does have to recoup that cost. EA takes it a step too far by purposfully leaving out content they already created and then charging for it. So for that stuff, I just dont buy it.
Take Oblivion for instance, with all the
downloads/extensions/expansion s on Marketplace you can extend that game for at least 100 hours. I see nothing wrong with the pricing model. If it doesn't interest you, don't buy it.
I don't think it is too expensive at all. To spend around $50 a year for a service like Xbox Live is perfectly reasonable, especially when you compare it to the PSN... which is free, sure, but I'd rather (get ready for a metaphor!) pay for a car to get me to where I want to go, instead of using the bicycle my older brother gave me for free.
But you DO get more with Xbox Live, that's a given. It's the one thing that Microsoft has really pushed further than the other console manufacturers. At the moment, the PlayStation Network is in its infancy and may become better; however, as it stands, it's no rival for the features included in Xbox Live. The cost of a decent Bluetooth wireless headset is the equivalent of TWO YEARS of Xbox Live... but my 360 included a headset in the box... oh and pretty much all games support voice chat.
Both services have ups and downs, but like everything else, you get what you pay for.
Your 360 also came with cables capable of outputting HD graphics out of the box. Don't forget about that.
During the days of the regular Xbox, i never payed for Xbox Live. I just got a 2 free months when i bought Halo 2. With the 360, i bought it/payed for it, because i got into PDZ online (since i had been playing it thanks to the free month the 360 comes with, btw, i trick the system for a extra 2 months, by just using different gamertags). But now i hardly ever play online and just feel forced to pay for it if i want to play online. And truthfully since i dont really play online that much, do not think its worth it. I wasnt even going to renew this year, and the Credit Card that i had used to subscribe to it originally had expired, so i thought that i wouldnt have to worry about it automatically renewing me. But "Lo and Behold", MS renewed my subscription to Live about a month after it had expired cuz i guess they just went by the new expiration date of my new card. I dont know if i'll renew it next year, as it all depends on how much i use it, but so far i am leaning towards, "no". I honestly fail to see what is so great about Live. The only thing that i see that is better than the PC's online experience is that all games you can talk in and less lag than most PC online games, but i believe thats because all 360 owners have to use broadband to go on Live and cant use dial-up, whereas on the PC many games can still go online through dial-up, and thats whats causing all the lag. I honestly dont care much for the friends list, (even though i used to max it out). Live's alright, the best thing about it to me is the Demos, but you can get those with the free Silver account
My main complaint though is Guitar Hero 2 prices for 3 songs. It is freakin rediculous, like 500 points for 3 songs which comes out to over 2 dollars per song. When you buy the game you get 70 songs for $64.94 after tax (US) which is less than a dollar per song. Just to big of a rip off for me, although I really want some of the songs they offer, but refuse to be ripped off.
you get what you pay for
thats it right there..well said
I don't mind paying at all. Get the demo, test it, if I like I usually buy it, if not instantly then later.
Who ever says it's too expensive should think it in other perspective. It's like getting a nice game instead of having 1-2 more pints in a pub :)
I wish Guitar Hero songs would be a b!t cheaper though.
(Hah, nice filtering, blamed me of using the word "b!tch")
I've had no problems, alot of teh stuff i've waited and it became free, some stuff i wasn't interested in or if it was too much i didn't download it. thats the simple answer if you dont need it and aren't forced to get it then dont get it.
Plus I know exactly were my money is going. It's going to provide new services like msn, iptv, free demos, unified friends lists. Gears is 800 ms points, so I didn't buy it, it will be free enough soon, and that means more people will be playing it then, keeps the game life longer.
but charging for shows, its totally ridiculous, you gotta pay to watch the Real World, whats up with that?
You really DON'T have to pay to watch the real world, just pay for cable TV instead and watch it when it comes on MTV. You talks as if "The Real World" is free. Last time I checked, It came on satellite or cable tv. Unless of course you download it off the internet, (For which there is also a charge) or you live a such a great city that they provide free cable service. Or is this just another cost that people take for granted.
why would you want to dl real world anyways. xbl is great and all... but there is a lot of crap on the marketplace that you just have to overlook.
because i like real world, thats why i would download, plus that was an example, i like xbox marketplace but they charge for the most stupidest things
Don't want it? Think it's a rip-off?
Don't download it!
Microtransactions are quickly becoming a way of life for console gamers. The best way to keep it from getting out of hand is for gamers to NOT buy the rip-offs that will inevitably make their way online. Horse armor? COG tag videos? Don't buy them, and eventually, companies will stop offering rip-offs, and focus more on quality content.
(And I have to agree: Aegis Wing is a BLAST. I would have paid 800 points for it...but it's free!)
Why do people automatically have to bring the PS3 into this?
"I think xbox live is a rip. So you pay to use your own internet to play games. A bunch of BS to me. " take a look this comment.
Here is some logic for you. How long since the PS3 was released? 6 months? If I buy a 360 instead of a PS3 I save $200. That means I can pretty much subscribe to xbox live for the next 4 years. If this gens las 4 more years... that means... XBox 360 + XBox live (4 years) = PS3 price. The way I see is... Microsoft let you pay the $200 over the years... Sony ask for it immediately.
is that movies you purchase expire, and so quickly. I mean if i pay for something i want to be able to view it as many times as i want i mean even to raise the price of movies on their a little but let you keep it i would be ok with that. I'm sure when Sony releases their Video on Demand service it will be the same story which is why i use netflix for Blu-ray and HD-DVD but not every movie is on a high def format yet. Anyone know why they can't charge more and let you keep the content to be viewed as many times as you want? They do it with the tv shows.
I feel riped off sometimes by the third party devs. The price of the content for Chromehounds, Call of duty 3 and the Rainbow Six map pack are a little high. I dont feel ripped off by the first party and arcade titles though. There is a few balance issues to be worked out but over all not bad for a service thats not even two years old yet.
Either way, I'm an XB Connect user. Get to use my internet connection for free instead of paying Microsoft to do so, and I get to decide which people play in my games. Pretty sweet.
It is true though that a lot of the content on Xbox Live is overpriced. I remember there being a lot of controversy over Lumines and the fact that it cost $37 to finish (multiple download tiers). Horse Armor also brings back memories. It's a good thing that Sony has been very good about pricing for online titles/content on their network.
37 is pretty pricey... but lumines is a full featured game. it's comparable to lumines on the psp and with price, i bought lumines 1& 2 for 40 bucks each retail and they both lack some features on the xb version. in relativity it's not your average xbla game. and plus this game rocks with online battles.
initially I didn't give a crap about the $50 a year, HOWEVER what I feared would happen, has, you are starting to see a shift towards the day where you will only get the most basic game content at the store and the only way to get the "full experience" is by paying thru your microtransaction drenched nose.
if you poor saps want to be beggars to your own gaming demise go right ahead.
There has been talk of Sony charging for certain dlc, but then again they aren't asking you for $50 to boot. People have already gotten sick of Microsoft's greed and rotten attitude toward people who expect the product they paid for to work reliably.
they make it soo simple to spend spend spend esp when you can charge a card with a press of a button. every xbla game i want... well almost every1. people are complaining about price because it's sooo easy to spend points on there, but in actuality it's pretty basic pricing for the most part. and charging for extra content is the devs decision, they have to make up the costs of the ultra high price of 'next-gen' developement... sometimes they do marketplace trickery by posting vague descipions of the content, but it's our job to inform others about the overpriced rubbish.
ehh, what xbl *needs* to do is post legitimate descriptions and maybe pictures of what the dlc is about, so there won't be a repeat of the horse armor fiasco that threw gamers into a tantrum.
don't get me wrong, i'm loving all the brimming amount of free demos xbl offers... esp the 'play before you buy' idea on xbla games, it's genius... but this 'genius' has been wrecking havok on my wallet. oh MS, your so clever! :-/
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