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Infinity Ward: Console Wars Make Us Angry

NowGamer: Speaking frankly in an exclusive interview with NowGamer, Infinity Ward's creative strategist and all-round good egg, Robert Bowling confessed this week that nothing makes him more mad than petty console feuds.

Speaking in relation to the Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 community, he said "I'm pretty vocal. I'm a gamer and I speak with them a lot whether via twitter or the forums and I'm not afraid to let them know when they're just being ridiculous." (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

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Parapraxis  +   2306d ago
Timed map packs, and BETAs on just one platform don't help show your disdain.
If you dislike the console wars, don't add fuel to the fire maybe?
Delta  +   2306d ago
Yea, nice call out. I'm sure there was some money involved tho.
Hades1337  +   2306d ago
In his defence all those dealings were between Activision and Microsoft. The only thing he can do is make sure that the game is identical on all platforms.
Major_Tom  +   2306d ago
Um, this is pretty hypocritical when Robert Bowling himself said PS3 was a piece of crap, infact there's irrefutable evidence of him saying so on more than one occasion.

Courtesy of his blog:
***Quote from fourzerotwo:
Way to go Sony. First you release a turd of a console, and if that wasn’t a big enough blow to the gaming community, you start picking on small gaming sites because they undermine your ‘marketing control’ in Europe.

I had a larger rant about the turdiness of the PS3 planned, but its just not worth it.

Meanwhile, enjoy this wonderful article by Maddox regarding the downfall of Sony in general, complete with the best paint drawn Turd I’ve ever seen.

***End quote

And also from
***Quote from fourzerotwo:
As for Playstation. No thank you.

There will be absolutely no Playstation product in my game room. That includes PS1, PS2, and ESPECIALLY PS3!! As far as I’m concerning, Sony can eat it. Sorry.

***End Quote

Funny thing is, those pages are now '404' most likely due to conflict of interest.

I wish some one would pay Robert to shut the f*ck up and smile.
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Winter47th  +   2306d ago
And Kodick threatening Sony if they don't lower their console price then they'll stop supporting them. Only on the other hand he raises MW2's price in all of Europe and say "So? they'll buy it anyway", hypocritical to the max.

If you signed a deal with the devil, there's nothing you can do to complain much, eh IW.
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Parapraxis  +   2306d ago
Major_Tom, holy crap, I'm speechless.
Here I thought it was only Gabe (not VALVE as a whole), and Kotick who had their heads up their asses.

Sure money may have been involved between Acti. and MS, but boy oh boy, it doesn't seem like these two from the IW team would have minded the PS3 fanbase getting a little bit shafted.
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BabyStomper5000  +   2306d ago
The maddox article he spoke of: http://www.thebestpageinthe...

Funny article btw.
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mastiffchild  +   2306d ago
Parapraxs-you're right fella. IW haven't demonstrated anyting other than a favouring of the 360 if you look at their record. Sure it's prolly a financial deal but qwhen you don't treat the platforms equally the reason doesn't matter only the resuling fact that you do favour one side and that leaves you in no position to comment on the futility of the console wars you helped propagate.

Add to that the comments this guy makes about the PS and Sony and the situation looks really murky, doesn't it? Why's he saying this if he hates Sony as much as he does? Also, I don't buy the IW as helpless pawns in all the Activision raising the price of MW2 in the EU eithe-they could have distanced themselves from that move at any timebut CHOSE not to. Why couldn't they? Would Acti drop their cash cow devs? Not a chance and IF IW did throw some weight behind this being unfair then my guess is that it might well change it pretty quickly.

But they didn't and they won't as they're just as big shills as the next Acti published company-and worse this guy just seems like a hypocrite of the highest order while his companies actions have done nothing but add to this console war he dislikes so much-though given what he's said earlier I'm guessing it's only ONE kind of fanboy he dislikes.

IW have been steadily losing face to me of late and that's sad for such a talented bunch of guys and gals. This, however, is pure BS coming from this fella by the looks of it.
bjornbear  +   2306d ago
They make me and many gamers angry too...but you aren't helping the problem eh IW? =/
LiquifiedArt  +   2306d ago
I'm already skipping this game
Since Demon's Souls came outta left field i'm more then satisfied. I'm also playing Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2: Master Ninja

then I got...

Ratchet n Clank
Uncharted 2

That is more then sufficient for the rest of the year. If I need an fps fix for a few weeks i'll just go back and enjoy killzone2. Otherwise i'm good for 2009.
Sarcasm  +   2306d ago
It's no surprise that there are still fanboys in the developer community.

But oh well, just as long as MW2 isn't gimped and plays how it's meant to, I think we can just move along.
sikbeta  +   2306d ago
I don't think so, from a business point of view IW always win, maybe I'm wrong since kotick is the puppet master and he make all the deals
jjohan35  +   2306d ago
Someone should tell IW and Activision to stop shooting their mouths off and instead release a demo/beta. Let the game speak for itself. So far the game seems like Modern Warfare 1.5 and they're trying to cash in on the hype by not releasing any type of demo.
evrfighter  +   2306d ago
"Let the game speak for itself"

if you want a demo play CoD4.

just pretend that you have different perks and the c130 airship is glitched so it's not working.
MEsoJD  +   2306d ago
I don't see what makes MW2 stand out...
I've give a try if anything before I buy. Its going to be pretty hard

to get me off of killzone 2. Well I can always get MW2 for pc.
Daver  +   2306d ago
''anger me because so much effort goes into ensuring the game is the same on each platform''

Hmmmm... it you make any other products than video games in 2 different places will you make it different?

Sure you have to make them identical
IdleLeeSiuLung  +   2306d ago
Robert Bowling said nothing "fanboyish" there. He just criticized the PS3 and MIGHT just prefers another platform. Still that doesn't make him a fanboy.

A fanboy is one who blindly worships another console and refuses to recognize, logically discuss and respect another console!!!

I don't consider myself a fanboy, but I do prefer one experience over the other. For the most part, the biggest reason is the controller. Does that make me a fanboy? Because I'm almost certain we all have a preference which makes us all fanboys here!
ReservoirDog316  +   2306d ago
Yeah, I'd blame most, if not every questionable strategy on activision. From CoDs released every year to timed map packs.

Or and @ IW, your boss makes me angry. You do a good job though.
MegaPowa  +   2306d ago
wow this is sad
Now you guys are ragging on him because he hates console wars :/ i mean seriously do you guys like looking like complete idiots who can't shutup about a piece of plastic and metal they own? he has a point. Oh and the only reason the 360 version is supported this much is because it sold more and has way more users online i thought you guys would of realized that already.
Darkfiber  +   2306d ago
You realize that Infinity Ward has absolutely no say in any of the exclusive content or anything like that, right? They are just a developer. Those decisions are made completely by the publisher, in this case being Activision, the most money hungry video game company around. They make Microsoft look like a saint. All Microsoft does is dangle a $1 bill on a fishing line in front of Bobby Kotick and he'll sign anything Microsoft asks for.

I'm glad Infinity Ward are publicly expressing their disdain for the console war stuff even though their hands are tied. They know they can get away with saying pretty much anything they want without outright saying "we hate Activision" and they know they will never be dropped, but honestly I wish they were and found a new publisher who didn't decide to charge ridiculous amounts of money for their games, and maybe then I would actually buy an Infinity Ward game. They are good developers but they unfortunately have the worst publisher in the business, and for that reason I refuse to give them any money.
Megaton  +   2306d ago
Major_Tom's quotes were the first thing I thought when I read the title. Robert Bowling saying this means about as much as Gabe Newell saying it. What a hypocritical sacksucker.
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NinjaGaidenSigma  +   2305d ago
I dont
see a ps3 MW bundle. Why do they show so much love to the 360 throwing betas towards them also?
Shepherd 214  +   2305d ago
Sadly, Activision controls what Infinity Ward does, not Infinity Ward. Timed map packs and Beta's on one console are not their decision. The 5 dollar increase in price for the game is also Activision's decision, not Infinity Ward.

Grow up people, think a little, and stop blaming the ones who deliver you the game because your a little sore in the ass.
Alvadr  +   2305d ago
'We dislike console wars, but we will happily get paid to do exclusive work on one platform and shaft the other'

Nice one Infinity Ward, you have just gone down a peg in my books you frikken hypocrites.

Besides, console wars are good for multisystem owners like myself. The customer always wins.
likedamaster  +   2305d ago
I might agree that console wars are petty but anyone really take this guy serious? Dude's a clown.
MainEv3nt 69  +   2306d ago
ya they hate fanboys yet 1 month until release and not even a screen shot has been released of the PS3 and PC version
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JeffGUNZ  +   2306d ago
If it runs identical on either platform, who cares which screenshot they show? I am sure the money Microsoft is throwing at Activision is making Activision push it more for the 360. If that's not the case, then who cares? IW knows the 360 is going to bring the majority of console sales for this game. The pre-order charts for america are triple for 360 to PS3. IW is appealing to the larger target audience. The game is going to run the same, who cares what system they are showing it for?
bjornbear  +   2306d ago
Ehm...sorry but the 360 and PS3 version might come out identical, but the PC version should look far better maxed out, and being a PC initiated franchise, they ought to be showing some PC lovin' at least =/
Hell-Reaver  +   2306d ago
even the video they put up on the psn store for MW2 was the 360's footage as they just greyed out the buttons on the screen, so you couldn't see them.

what a joke....i too am leaning towards not getting it from all the bs going on. I even have both consoles, so i could get the *best* copy but i would get it on ps3 anyways, as i use it and like it the most.
sikbeta  +   2306d ago
"ya they hate fanboys yet 1 month until release and not even a screen shot has been released of the PS3 and PC version"

maybe they don't want to feed the fanboys
aaronisbla  +   2306d ago
only reason why there are more pre orders for the 360 version is because of all the great games available at this moment and to come in the next few weeks on the ps3.

Its not a dig on the 360, but its the truth. But id like to see this proof of pre orders being 3 - 1 for 360-ps3
likedamaster  +   2305d ago

Uh... nothing different but the higher res. Seriously, I have both and don't see the benefit of playing on PC over 360/PS3 other than kb+m.
dale1  +   2306d ago
cod4 and 5 i own, don,t know about 6,mags becoming my must have title for online shooter having played the beta for a couple of weeks i think this game already offers more features in terms of game play.cod6 will be great no doubt about that but its only a clone of 4 and 5,been there done that.
Kiroe  +   2306d ago
"The console wars really anger me because so much effort goes into ensuring the game is the same on each platform."

Lets hope this is true because COD4 (Infinity Ward) and COD:WaW (Treyarch) have had lower resolution textures on the PlayStation 3. But I am sure that they have spent the extra time on this AAA title to ensure they are equals.

11-10-09 can't come soon enough.
edhe  +   2306d ago
If a company like IW can't get performance parity on both platforms, doesn't that means something?

Let's see what mw2 brings.
roybatty  +   2306d ago
"Author profile"
Dan Howdle
I’m Games Editor for, but also write for X360, Play, Games™, 360,...

...well that fanboy is loving this flame bait article. A 360 fan boy through and through.
darkequitus  +   2306d ago
Yes, but did he not lambasted ODST last month?

Not quite a 360 fanboy through and through as you suggest.
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kwyjibo  +   2306d ago
Re: roybatty
Roy, you are a ignorant imbecile. There's no need to mince those words, because it's the truth.

Not only does the poster above point out that he is the guy who lambasted ODST. You even quote the publications he works for, including the longest running Playstation magazine in the UK - Play.

So he works for 2 360 mags too - is that massive bias? No it isn't, and your stupidity shines through. Howdle works across ALL gaming publications from Imagine Publishing. That's not bias, you f&cking idiot.
aaronisbla  +   2306d ago
if he's a fanboy in your eyes, id hate to actually see one. Its damn silly that you think the man is a fanboy just because he works on mags featuring the 360.

Stop acting like what you accused the man of Roybatty
Magnus  +   2306d ago
Funny how they say the game is equal on both consoles when for a fact an article was circulating on here amonth ago stating about how Microsoft got a timmed deal exclusive for the map packs for CODMW2.
MiloGarret  +   2305d ago
Yeah, I think he meant the core experience... Like, graphics, gameplay, control etc.
TheDeadMetalhead  +   2306d ago
"The console wars really anger me”

Says the guy who once bashed the PS3 to no end, who works for a company that release timed exclusive content and won't even consider developing a game for Wii (make Treyarch do it instead).

No offense, but this guy is really in no position to be complaining about console wars and fanboys. It's like Parapraxis said, he/IW just adds fuel to the fire most of the time.
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Elvfam511  +   2306d ago
And Don't forget
No Dualshock 3 support in COD4 just because it was to late
MegaPowa  +   2306d ago
well that was just his opinion
Its not like he owns a website that is a warzone for fanboys (cough n4g) no offense to the owners of this site i still come here all the time i just really think something has to be done with all the back and forth console bashing :/
iceman06  +   2305d ago
The sad and unfortunate truth is that WITHOUT the console wars...these forums would be pretty empty. You gotta admit...there is a little entertainment value in the console wars...and if you think that the manufacturers would like to see us getting along...whatever. It's divide an conquer on the economic level...divide the industry into factions, passively fuel the fire, and conquer all of our wallets!!!
bujasem_89  +   2306d ago
WHO Gives
a RATs ass about what they think? bad enough their stealin our money , and they want their opinion to matter lol xD
JeffGUNZ  +   2306d ago
Activision raised the prise, not Infinity Ward. Robert Bowling works for IW, not activision.
bujasem_89  +   2306d ago
silly me i didn't know that well still i think that competition is always good for both sides i mean if it was only 1 console it wouldn't be as good at all cause there wouldn't be anything to motivate it to be better , it would be u wanna play get our console and live with how much it sucks so u get the point .
ambientFLIER  +   2306d ago
They came to your house, held you at gunpoint, and took your money?
likedamaster  +   2305d ago
"They came to your house, held you at gunpoint, and took your money?"

Yes! And I have the empty pockets to prove it.
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keysy420  +   2306d ago
stop making games equal
thsi is were the controversy begins. look you want to stop fanboyism. make seperate games take full advantage of pc 360 and ps3 that way each system shines and people can play what they you can push the graphic on ps3 push online with 360 and go all out on pc.that way people can decide what most important graphic online or gameplay ( pc)
lonix  +   2306d ago
Fanboys suck arse
So does acrivision
free3sixty  +   2306d ago
well everybody knows that the POS3 kids are very deperate.. bahsing the 360 on every BIG site worldwide.

poor pos3 droids.

A Shame that NFS shift and Fifa10 dold more copies as inFamous or KZ2...

but but but.. 360 ha sno games and you have the most.. lol

seems like ppl prefer multiplatt instead of sonys new no name IPS.
OmarJA  +   2306d ago
Why you keep crying like a little b!tch?
ZombieAutopsy  +   2306d ago
Ironic theirs a fanboy rant in an article thats about people not liking fanboys.
talltony  +   2306d ago
they didnt sell more without the help of the ps3 you tard.
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keysy420  +   2306d ago
the ps3 verison will be just as good.
my friend told me the other day that the game was better on 360 when i asked why he said that is what i was told. i said the games are excatly the same. then he said the controller so i said you been playing with the ps2 controlleer for 20 yrs . didnt you have to adjust for the 360 . yeah well how can you complain. their is just too much bull with fanboys. if the games werent trying to be equal we wouldnt have these problem. how could you not want a blu ray player
JeffGUNZ  +   2306d ago
I grew up on PS1 and PS2, and when I played a FPS on the 360 controller, I fell in love. Not saying the PS3 controller is bad in any way, shape, or form, but the 360 feels more natural for FPS. For RPG's, action, etc games, the PS3 controller feels identical to the 360 controller in my honest opinion. In regards to the game, it will run identical.
chak_  +   2306d ago
I'm so in a hurry this game is out.

Just so sites stop being flooded with mw2 news, it's getting boring
Tin Foil Hat gamer  +   2306d ago
Just like tired, uninspired sequels anger me.
LiquifiedArt  +   2306d ago
That made me lol
That is why i'm passing on this. More of the same.
MegaPowa  +   2306d ago
This is only the second modern warfare game
And it has a lot of new features like the spec ops mode which is as long as the single player mode and it can be played with a friend theres many more i could talk about but what do you expect? A whole new game? that's not how sequels work buddy
Marquis_de_Sade  +   2305d ago
mistajeff  +   2306d ago
"The game is equal on every platform"

Man, I really hope that doesn't mean the level of detail doesn't go above console quality on PC. I'm sure they won't cap the PC resolution at x600... maybe...
Pandamobile  +   2306d ago
Obviously not. You're only limited by the res of your monitor.
Sir Ken_Kutaragi  +   2306d ago
It's a Shame that...
...'Modern Warfare 2' won't look as good as 'KillZone 2'...Oh will have CR*P 'xBox 360' looks...

+ Oh yeah, thanks 'Infinity Ward' for not even bothering doing Trophies + Rumble for the PS3 Version of COD:MW1??? :-/ And you want me to run out and buy your game day 1??? Er NOPE!!! ;-D

I buy 'Uncharted 2' DAY 1!!! ;-P (STILL in the DAM Post!!! WTF) :-(

I buy 'R&C:ACiT' DAY 1!!! ;-P

I buy 'KillZone 2' DAY 1!!! ;-P

I buy 'MGS 4' DAY 1!!! ;-P

I buy 'LBP' DAY 1!!! ;-P
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divideby0  +   2306d ago
so he says the games are exactly the same...
we will see if this dude is lying through his face shortly....
Saaking  +   2306d ago
Then how come you support the 360 over the ps3? If you don't want fanboys don't be fanboys.
P_Bomb  +   2306d ago
This guy helped FUEL the console wars and people are right to call him out...
As has been noted above, he has BLOGGED and in his OWN WORDS written about how he hates the PS3 and won't even have a Sony console from any gen' in his gaming room. Who the slag is he to take ANYONE to task about console wars? He is by definition a hypocrite.

If he has any balls, get him on these boards and let him explain himself away from the protective umbrella of his Twitter and IW boards. He can hate the PS3 all he wants, that's fine, just don't go public in an article like this and turn around 'n' act all high and mighty like you're doing people a favor by "explaining the way things work" when you're full of bias juice yourself, then go deleting the posts and webpages that had the incriminating evidence when you realise you're caught.

Thanks to MajorTom, here ONCE AGAIN is what the hypocrite has said:
"Way to go Sony. First you release a turd of a console, and if that wasn’t a big enough blow to the gaming community, you start picking on small gaming sites because they undermine your ‘marketing control’ in Europe.

I had a larger rant about the turdiness of the PS3 planned, but its just not worth it."

"There will be absolutely no Playstation product in my game room. That includes PS1, PS2, and ESPECIALLY PS3!! As far as I’m concerning, Sony can eat it. Sorry."
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Ravage27  +   2306d ago
IW can go f#$% themselves.
Cliff Forster  +   2306d ago
Come on, everybody knows the real way to experience Call of Duty is on a gaming PC, *prepares flame retardant suit*
Skynetone  +   2306d ago
Try playing it on my pc
and you woundnt be saying that

anyway ill be picking it up on the ps3
ForROME  +   2306d ago
Thats a funny statement its equal on both platforms, cool. how come Ive never seen a beta tried out for call of duty on the PS3?

edhe  +   2306d ago
When the cod4 beta came out the Live network was far more advanced and populated than the psn.

Would you spend time trying a beta on a platform with more people on a more feature rich network, or with less people on a less developed one?
GarandShooter  +   2305d ago
'Would you spend time trying a beta on a platform with more people on a more feature rich network, or with less people on a less developed one?'

The answer to that question should match the answer to this accompanying question:

Am I trying to sell product on the platform?
dragonelite  +   2306d ago
Lame so you cant work on a 360 related mag,site,company without being a fanboy. So bungie are a bunch of fanboys because they work on the xbox only. Really having to deal with the ps 3 fanboys is really giving sony and ps brand a bad name on the internet.
Bodyboarder_VGamer  +   2306d ago
Bungie is a copamy that develop (or used to develop) exclusively on the X360, so go find another example because that one doesn't works.

People have proves of IW BS. Just read the above comments...
deadlyshots7  +   2306d ago
spend more money for good 1st party,and less on dlc,or timed exclusive
Digital Commando  +   2306d ago
I fully agree with him
That example he talked about is just in line with what every other overly sensitive prick hole bullshit fanboys always whine about.
LinuxGuru  +   2306d ago
Hey IW, stop being douches and create a new IP like every other good dev this gen has.
N2NOther  +   2305d ago
You mean like Kojima productions? They must suck huh?
ndibu  +   2306d ago
One word my compadres
BUSINESS...the gaming industry, like all other industries is just that, an INDUSTRY.
The main concern of any profit based business is the generation of income, money!
If Microsoft pay ActiVision X million dollars for timed exclusive content, why should Activision or even Infinity Ward apologise for this transaction? They are making more money.
They weighed the risks and concluded that the profit generated from said transaction more than outweighs the possible backlash from ''angry SONY fans'' who will boycott *cough* yeah right *cough* the game just because they won't get additional content at the same time as their X360 counterparts.
This guy has every right to conduct business as he sees fit and as long as you people keep buying this repeat software he'll keep saying he hates the stupid war that you believe in for some misguided reason.
Yes i hate it too
Droid Control  +   2306d ago
''I was talking to this one guy recently”, he recalls “He was a very angry PS3 user.''
Sounds about right... LOL
DiLeCtioN  +   2306d ago
oh please...
like they ain't fanboys themselves. What does supporting one console more on a multi-platform game call you...err guess what FANBOYS or MONEY-BOYS
DMasta718  +   2306d ago
Or its called a business deal between Activision and Microsoft.

Come on. I know you're smarter than that.
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