The banning of consoles rather than accounts on modded 360s has been a hot topic as of very recently, and PlayNoEvil has their own take - it's going to be a PR nightmare.
Dont mod your 360 and dont steal from MS and cheat the rules. Simple only people that have broken the rules and Sony fanboys give a sh*t about this.
Not about the sony fans but about the MODDERS. Just stop screwing around. You get what you deserve. If you are messing around with your 360 then you should be banned completely. We dont need cheaters on the 360 or PS3. Bar non.
That's all there is to it.
Man there sure is alot of good news lately about bringing these sons of b!tches down.
im so glad my Xbox 360 still works =D
in other words all my stuff IS legit =)
When they say "Modders" they are not talking about people who are using "cheats" in the game while playing online. They are talking about people who mod their systems to play "backed up" games. To the rest of you's, i just hope i hear the same kind of stupid sh!t from you's "about hating the modders" when its happening to Sony. Cuz you's know this aint about you's hating people who mod their systems to play copied games, but this is just about you little fanboy fanatics getting mad about somebody messing with your beloved MS (or system builder). You people truly are pathetic. Now delete any songs you's got off Kazaa or Limewire (or whatever P2P software) or any pornos.
although MS would profit if the banned consoles were still allowed on live its the the principle of it all , and they have to show developers they there combating piricy, and power of the green your such a fanboy its not even funny you'd sware it was you they were ripping off its MS they have billions so call it karma and before you give your usual defense to anyone that call yous a fanboy, i'm not a ps3 owner so dont go there, i have a modded 360, am still not banned and i couldnt care if i'm ripping ms off they over price games so i refuse to buy them
I dare you to add your gamertag to your profile.
i just added it and i double dare you to report me
I will report you to this site for impersonating me in order to try to have me banned from my xbox live account. mmm... Dusty I think you should come up with some validation against people using someone's else gamertag that can be use to damange others.
(I click report on your post.. I want to make sure people see what you are doing).
are you realy trying to report this guy? YOU DID! fuk a snitch
Get a job and pay for ur gaming, fangay
VGjunkie, you don't know the definition of a snitch? i.e. if someone would to grab you in the street and butt rape you... and the autorities ask me... And I tell.. that would make me a snitch (Notice this only applies to you). Now, when someone impersonate your account and you report them... I would call that revenge.. get your facts straight and while you are at it... mind your own business... your are a Sony Lemming and it's only logical for you to defend your fellow pets.
impersonating your account??? its not like he was posting on n4g with a name similar to yours with the same avatar. he said in so many words he was a modern day pirate. you asked for is xbl handle ( so you could snitch him out to M$ )and he wrote your handle.. hahahah. he got revenge and you got pwned. revenge is something clever, not b!tching out and telling mommy like you just did. hahahaha.......me getting raped? maybe by your wife,sister, girlfriend,or ugly daughter. a better comparison would be you trying to jack me and i stuck you with a knife, you decide to go the the PD tell them how horrible i am. thats not revenge, thats called being a little b!tch! ( notice how this only applies to you ) besides, mind your own business and stop worrying about trying to be some type of authority" snitch" for M$.
trying to help my fellow pets??????? fuk him too...i dont know him one bit and i thought he was remote control xbot( similar to you, just not flaming) as for me being a almost blind follower for sony...you got things twisted. i follow CAVE,SQUARE,SNK,and CAPCOM not hardware.
@kovenator.....know if i decided i really wanted to play Marvel vs capcom 2 for xbox1, that game goes for about $70 US dollars, retail was 49.99. this is a game that should be republished to supply consumer demand, but its not so instead of getting ripped off, you borrow and burn. its not my fault that these large companies cant keep software available long enough to keep hungry gamers happy.
Theft is theft is theft.
There is no rationale for stealing software that doesn't make you sound like a fool and a complete tool.
Ignored, both. (But not before I neg both of your bubbles) I come here to read what gamers have to say, not to see ignorant putzes defend theft.
True gamers don't steal. I paid $250 for Panzer Dragoon Saga. It cost $50 new. I bought it because I'm a gamer. Stealing games is something I would never do. I'm better than that, and I hope most of the other people on here are too.
I did too junkie. report away
I love your thought patterns Junkie. Revenge is getting back at somebody that did something to you that was uncalled for, where did you get this whole revenge is clever? What the he11 does that mean? What a pickle,Plus telling "Mommy" are you serious who's acting like a little kiddie now? Sounds like your talking from experience, you always run to your mommy in these type of situations? Then you act more childish by saying your getting raped by him family, wow better watch out dont want your mommy to find out what your typing. LOL, Plus if you do bring out a knife and stab him and he brings in the PD that isnt being a b1tch that's smart because now your going to jail for assault with a deadly weapon and now your going to jail for a long time. When you get their yoru going to be fresh meat and probably turn into a "B1tch" yourself. Stupid kid's on here grow up.
Plus the people who backup their games you know you shouldnt do why do it in the first place? If your going to use the whole I dont want to scratch my disk , that's what Dskin's are for, your an idiot and deserve to get your console bricked. I'm glad they ban the console and not the gamertag , so they dont just make a new gamertag and do the same cr4p. Good job Msoft.
I do agree in a way but banning console is probaly goin to hurt them in the end. they should take a difference approach..
I thought that the consoles wern't permanently banned, i thought that whenever a 360 console connects to live, it is somehow checked for any modified hardware, software or firmware. Then if it's found, its disconnected from the live service. Isn't that right?
If you want to play games at a discount rate, buy used or rent them. Violator's deserve to be bricked. Zero tolerance.
Blind Lemmings, Laugh Now, Cry Later.
ah cyber monkey, type now scratch your ass later.
Is the banning permanent?
I'd think a warning should be provided first, not just a flat out ban. Like have it remind you that you got 1 month to restore your 360 or you will be banned.
Or another approach just have it keep harrassing them that they have modded there 360 and have it like disconnect from the internet every hour, at least they still get to play that way but it will also teach them a lesson about modding.
When MS released Xbox360 Elite I was a little confused: what makes MS to anounce a brand tiny console update (HDMI, another HDD and a couple of drops of epoxy on mainboards) as a the new Elite version? It was rudiculous, but I asked myself what trick MS does to make X360 fans to sell their own particularly 2 years old consoles to buy this very the same new version. Now It is clear.
Actually MS doesnt care about game developers or publishers, the console sales is the only reason. Is it too hard to detect a chipped console having a network like XLive? Never! Just put a game copy with a code-imbedded "marker" to a global sharing bittorrent network and shoot all consoles when they appear at XLive with this "marked" copy running - they must be illegal cuz they have a illegaly downloaded copy inside and running it - not an original disk. It is possible only on modified consoles - so welcome to the ban world.
"Actually MS doesnt care about game developers or publishers, the console sales is the only reason."
I have to disagree with this statement since Developers + Publishers = Console Sales, just look at the dilema the PS3 is in right now regarding their software line-up.
Besides, No matter what microsoft or sony says. You have to right to modify anything you legaly own. Just like you can modify your car, your bicycle your house and w/e. Whether it's for ilegal purposes or not is not even considered here. Microsoft just bans consoles and thats it. Wrong way to go MS. You should of just banned the accounts if people where actually going on live and cheating, which is a case I've never even heard of in the first place.
Read the terms of XBox360's use again please
It's in your EULA.
You can't modify your car or bicycle however you want and still drive it on the street. You still have to meet certain standards with it or you get ticketed and it gets impounded (more with car then bike). Also in most towns and cities you cannot just modify your house how you like either. There are zoning regulations and licenses that need to be bought and if you have a homeowners association in the neighborhood they can veto any changes you want to make.
Fact is it is Microsoft’s network and they can kick anyone off that they want. It is also illegal to steal intellectual property so it is by no means in anyway wrong for them to kick off thieves. In fact they have somewhat of a responsibility to do so.
I disagree with this article. I don't think it'll be a huge PR nightmare from telling people "tough luck you bought a used, modified system". They could deal with this simply by running some press about how they're cracking down on copyright infringement.
Plus, if this prevents LIVE from being filled by cheaters, I'm all for it.
"Besides, No matter what microsoft or sony says. You have to right to modify anything you legaly own."
That's simply not true. For example, you are not legally allowed to decompile any copy protected software whether you own it or not. Similarly, you are not allowed to make backup copies of copy-protected software. That's moding you're NOT allowed to do.
How in the hell is this a PR nightmare? Modders were synonmous with cheating for the original Xbox. I say good riddance to anyone who mods their game console.
Sony has more lenient usage rules, and yet has fewer problems than Microsoft when it comes to modding.
Stupid article. It is obviously written by someone who modded their 360. If someone is selling a modded X360 (which is illegal) on ebay, then that person is responsible. When they modded their 360, they voided the warranty. Microsoft should just say "tough luck, buy a 360 with a warranty next time".
When you buy a used console you take the risk of something being wrong with it... Now if you buy a used console from someone you don't know and it happens to be banned... tough sh*t, thats the risk you took trying to get a console for a bargain.
banning is the only answer, then execution
If congress passes it's new copyright law, (and it looks like they will, the entertainment industry has bought most of both houses) software, music and video pirates will go to prison. Some of the possible infringements carry life sentences.
and a multi-homicide cellmate asks you "So what are you in here for? Drugs? Killin'?" And you have to look him in the eye and go -"I clicked on some Ones and Zeros. Oh, and pasted."-
I think any theft should be treated with jail time.
I bought my games, so I deserve them. If you didn't pay for it, you don't deserve it, pure and simple.
And it will be for awhile.
theyre smart enough to expect this PWNED H4XORS
Piracy has to stop eventually, if this industry wants to reach its full potential. But at the same time if that happeneds i want to see price cut of games by 50%. Games are way to expensive, just to much.
The cost of materials per game is less than $1.50 (or $2.75 for a BD) Development costs, and whatnot would bring it up to maybe $25 per game, and another $10 is copy protection schemes and development. the rest is store and developer and publisher profit, and the license fee for the console. You could expect prices to drop by $5-$15 US if Piracy was cut by half or more.
modders deserve to be banned!!! enough said!!
the only thing i like about the backing games is that incase they get scratched by the Xbox 360/user. in which case you dont have to miss out. but it shouldnt be done and i am glad MS are taking action.
Nice try... mm... that gamer tag looks familiar... I think I have an admirer... look at that... isn't that interesting... he created a gamertag after mine user name on this site. I guess you chose meaningful names... "Fanboys are gay"... Sorry.. I respect your sexual orientation.... but would like you to respect mine. Bummer... now I have an obsessed... fanboy after me.
No but seriously... Why don't you share your gamertag? We would like to know if you really have an xbox 360 and not just blowing smoke.
@Garrison, Ofcourse you have the right to mod your console as much as you want.
You have the right to remain silent when you can't get on xbox live and feel alone in the world when you can't play online games. Do you understand?
Anything you play may be played locally; against yourself or your little brother in a court of home. Do you understand?
You have the right to come to this site and b!tch about it before speaking to microsoft and beg them and try to convince them your xbox 360 is not mod. Do you understand?
If you get tired of playing single player and can't afford one, you can always beg your mom to buy you another. Do you understand?
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to lose your xbox live account?
They forfit there rights when they violate the terms of agreement. Thieves and criminals are all they are and they should be punished so. JAIL! JAIL! JAIL! with some guys named Bubba with swatchtica tattoos and a love for cornholing the a$$es of fresh meat.
(((bladestar))) hell yeah thats a good one.
why now? i thought the only reason to buy a xbox 1 was to pirate games anyway. so they are telling the world that if we, "the consumer who owns the property" decided to upgrade to a better dvd drive because the one "you" sold to me destroys my $60 games, my system would be banned. [email protected]
Now if for some reason i accidently turn my system off during a game save or end up with a corrupted game save and i decided to get one from a friend or download of the internet, or maybe upgrade my own hd instead of being ripped off by you i would be banned??? [email protected]
Why is M$ always in everybody's else's business? modders? the only real cheat i know of is gears and it consists of rewriting code, the rest are all glitches or maxed out game saves. they shouldn't be harassing their paying customers, they are going to need every one of them in the near future.
@bladestar 2.1, are you threatening to turn [email protected]
I find that the guys that have 2000 downloaded albums are the ones that are most upset by the music industry crackdowns. It's really quite amazing how that is mirrored in the console world.
And that is the truth, the average Halo 2 player knows that for the following reasons:
1. You get messages from your modder friends saying they were banned and they would like another 1 month.
2. They don't have a problem with buying another account (its only $50).
3. Bungies banhammer tools have been in effect since 2005, and modders are still rampant in Halo 2.
The fact is banning the console from Xbox Live is the most logical step, if they detect any modifications on your 360 the Banhammer is gonna hit you in the ass.... and your wallet.
A PR nightmare? The threat of banned consoles would hardly make me have reconsidered buying my xbox 360. It's true people could sell banned consoles on ebay, but it's already dangerous to buy used equipment over the Internet anyway. Either way, the sale will be an overall loss for the modder.
You just can't play with others. That's it plain and simple. They are trying to maintain a level playing field where skill matters not mods. Crap man who wants to play with a cheater. That's the bottom line who wants to play and lose to cheaters.
I have a modded 360 and have all of the games out now for the 360 from A-Z....
before the banning, i was really only playing maybe about 5 games online....Lost Planet, Rainbow 6 LasVegas, NBA 2k7, just to name a few....
Now, I got me a NON-modded 360 core in which i switch my hardrive back and forth, to and from my modded to my non-modded. if i REALLY like the game..I will purchase it and play it LEGALY online....
This message is for the..."Screw Microsoft..Im gonna sell my 360 and get me PS3!!"
GoodLuck to that adventure!! I have had a PS3 eversince launch and it just sits there collecting dust!!! I could care less about BR movies, and I laugh at ppl that REALLY care about old ass PS1 games.
Classics? Yes, they are....and lets LEAVE em that way. I have more fun playing emulators on my original modded xbox anyways....
SONY: "Nex-gen doesnt start until we say so"
ME: Do you guys have an actual date for when that is supposed to happen? In the mean time, I'll be enjoying these great 360 games!!
First off, Microsoft does NOT support consoles bought second-hand.
If you buy a used console that's banned from Live, that's your own tough luck. Caveat emptor, there's a reason it's used. Only buy refurb or new ones, so you have support. No lawsuits, no "PR nightmare"
Secondly, the reputation of the 360 is already shaky, so not many people who shop eBay for games are going to be looking for a 360. Especially considering the best you can hope for if you get a bum console is a negative feedback post against the seller.
Third(ly?), it generally costs a bit of change to modify an XBox 360, and these are not things that will be sold quickly just because they're banned from LIVE, it's more likely to be relegated to a backup offline console or a custom job in a vehicle or something.
Finally, in the unlikely event that the modded console is sold (through ebay or whatever) the console will not allow the Gamertag to be created on it, and if someone decides for some reason to make the tag on XBox.com instead of the console for some reason, the service can be accessed from any unmodified/unflagged console, so Microsoft is not commiting any real PR mistake here.
Sorry, but I would never be able to play games for about 10 years without backups. It's the sad truth. I have never bought a single legimate game, I mean never! And it all comes down to the price. Sorry, I'm not a freakin stupid maniac to pay 1/4 (1 game = 50Ls) of my salary for a single game if I can buy and play it, only for 5Ls. Over here it is a freakin rip off!!!
So the bottom line, if my PS2/xbox wasn't moded, I could suck a thumb.
Well.. modding is illegal even if you have your nice and good intentions with sweet excuse of playing "backed up"(read torrent) games to keep your originals in a MINT condition.
I think they're doing what they should do.
This isn't a hot topic? LAME!
DVD/Blu-ray/HD-DVD are all a form of distribution with no real security at all. The only way will be if all of us are on-line and all content are signed for our accounts and consoles.
Time to a better connection in the next console cycle! Death to the optical medias!
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