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Forza 3 vs Forza 2 comparison - Suzuka F430 comparison

From Gameswire: "After our earlier Forza 3 vs. GT5:P comparison, we've knocked up a quick comparison between Forza 3 and Forza 2."

"Same rules apply: same circuit, same car, same positions, same resolution (1280x720), same capture equipment. Even the 360 used to play the two games is the same."

"There's no prizes for guessing which is better." (Forza Motorsport 2, Forza Motorsport 3, Xbox 360)

Sunny_D  +   1756d ago
Atleast they got the shiny toy car look out of the cars . Now it looks plastic.
54percent  +   1755d ago
Forza 2 had more effects
Sunny_D  +   1756d ago
Wait, what are we looking at? It's Forza 2. Oh wait, you mean that's Forza 3 too? Wow, I don't see a difference at all.
DasBunker  +   1756d ago
The difference is barely noticeable.. i had to look to find out which one was which
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soxfan2005  +   1755d ago
More pointless screenshot comparisons. Because as we all know, graphics=quality. /s
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steck67  +   1755d ago
Well actually the graphics of a game plays a pretty big role in creating a quality game
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SnuggleBandit  +   1755d ago
^^
you are right, it does not necessarily equal quality but why on the 360 are you not seeing graphical jumps like on the ps3 from uncharted to uncharted 2? Is it incompetant devs or underpowered hardware?
soxfan2005  +   1755d ago
@above - neither
Did you guys actually read the article? "Sizeable step up" in graphical quality since you are so interested.
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SaberEdge  +   1755d ago
@steck67

Yes, you're right. That's why every PS2 game was lacking last generation and wasn't nearly as fun as the games on the Xbox, right?

Give us a break. Graphics are important, but far more important is how a game plays and how much fun it is. That is why I loved so many PS2 games even though graphically they were far below the graphics of most Xbox games.

In any case the graphical difference between games on the 360 and PS3 is marginal at best. There is far more difference between games on the same console than there is between the consoles.
steck67  +   1755d ago
Did I say graphics are more important than gameplay? No. All I basically said is to create a quality game, you want graphics in the formula. I did not say graphics > gameplay primarily because I personally think gameplay > graphics.

If everything was about graphics I might as well quit gaming and watch Pixar films instead.
MNicholas  +   1755d ago
Some things better some things worse
Forza 2's rendering is a bit cleaner and has slightly fewer artifacts. For example, the lines on the road in Forza 3 are very rough edged.

Forza 2's grassy area does have appear to use larger and more varied textures while Forza 3 uses repeating low-res, mottled textures.

Neither handles transparent pixels well with a lot of dithering and artifacts.

Forza 3's car shading is a little bit better and it does have a bit more grass objects and, of course, a lot of people in the stands.

The camera does appear to be higher and farther away in Forza 3 which enhances the performance saving benefits of the skewed perspective.

On that subject, both suffer from the same FOV problem where the perspective is excessively skewed.

Neither has particularly detailed car models.

The similarities are so many, from the precise placement of trees to many surrounding structures, it's hard to believe their claim that they built a brand new engine for Forza 3.

Turn10 has somewhat of a self-created credibility problem for a lot of reasons, such as graphics, damage, physics and pricing.
bjornbear  +   1755d ago
Guys
Graphics are important. But who says graphics is the rendering power and the realism?

SoTC has better graphics than many games i know...because to me graphics isn't JUST realism / rendering power, its basically the whole visual aspect. The character modeling, the detail in the design.

PS2 has very good graphic games, just not the best rendered ones.

HOWEVA! On a driving SIM, since gameplay has basically been nailed down to millimeters and miligrams of physics and so on, graphics renderings play a far bigger part

on a game like Infamous or Halo, where there are a lot more factors to add to, and a lot more happening on screen, so your eyes won't be focused on same place as long (unlike racing sim games) and graphic renderings aren't AS important

Admit it, people will notice a racing game / racing sim's graphics way before a TPS or a Sports game =)
CWMR  +   1755d ago
-If you are trying to compare it to Gran Turismo, the reality is that both games are so close and the graphics in either game are going to be plenty good to immerse you in the races.-
Darkeyes  +   1755d ago
I know graphics =! gameplay, but I really want to know what Turn 10 was eating before that E3 presentation. "Best looking Sim till date" Thats a bold claim when you can hardly surpass your predecessor...
ultimolu  +   1755d ago
"More pointless screenshot comparisons. Because as we all know, graphics=quality. /s"

Yeah, cause you know, 360 fans weren't trying to attack PS3 games in the same manner?

Now the graphics don't matter! It's all about the quality!

*snorts*
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Shadow Flare  +   1755d ago
No way....honest to god, when i was comparing them, i thought forza 3 was on the right and 2 was on the left. Because thats typically the order it should be in. But then i saw forza 3 was on the left.........i have to watch what i say or i'll get banned but damn, Turn 10 should STFU. Honestly, if anything the games look basically the same but the road and grass looks better in forza 3 but the cars look better in forza 2, honestly. Turn 10 you should be ashamed. And to have the gall to mouth off to polyphony like that. Maybe YOU should have worked on your game for 5 years because if thats the result of 2 years.....lol it needs more time in the oven. Damn lol
aaron5829  +   1755d ago
Yea.... great...
Now graphics are not important...

What happened to " Boo hooo... Xbox 360 games always looks better than the PS3 version.... PS3 multiplat games are always inferior graphically... "

Hypocrites.

On topic : there are improvements... but not by much.
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u got owned  +   1755d ago
They look similar because this is the same track, same thing happen with the GT5p comparison the graphics where very similar because it was the same track, that's why the only differences you'll see is in the lighting effects, details and textures, but that's what make a games graphics better.

Everything in F3 looks better, from textures, lighting, colors and detail, not to mention that the game while playing it look much more better than F2.
rockleex  +   1755d ago
So graphics only matter when it comes to multiplat comparisons?
Interesting.
Richdad  +   1755d ago
Forza 3 looks better
The difference is barely noticable in the pics, the basic difference in Forza 2 and 3 is that FOrza 3 throws 4 times more textures and 10 times more polygons. Thats it self a huge jump. So, these pics when compared like this might not get your anywhere.

FOrza 3 still is not the sim with definitive graphics. But it is better than Forza2 in all respect, the stage shown here looks very ugly in FOrza 2 (I mean it by word ugly. But in Forza 3 the car model shines(can compete with any game except GT5) the stage look OK not breath taking but you will never say it ugly.

Also Forza 3 car models look great. They are truly outstanding part in terms of graphics. Yes but turn 10 has not improved much in terms of effects and shaders they are basically the same.
MetalGearRising  +   1756d ago
Forza 3 on xbox360 will be the Definitive Racing Game ever made no other console can compete in Graphics,Customization, The bar has been set so high that GT5 has gracefully backed out.
DasBunker  +   1756d ago
lol even GT:P has better graphics than forza 3.. and who cares putting stickers on cars isnt what driving sims are all about.. and as you know GT rapes forza on driving and physics departments.. if i wanted to put stickers and other irrelevant crap on cars id get modnation racers :P..

but i know youre joking :)
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DK_Kithuni_71  +   1756d ago
@MetalGearRising
Take it easy Bill. Microsoft is still a great comp... Well, actually, it isn't. Microsoft is a scam. The Xbox 360 is pure trash. Forza 3 is a joke. Turn 10 are morons.

Have a nice day :-)
MetaIGearRising  +   1756d ago
Who am I kidding?
Forza 3 will suck.
GT5 will be much better, better graphics, handling, tracks ect...
Forza 3 will be destroyed by GT5.
Shadow Haze501  +   1755d ago
Hey Metal BOT play the all the Gran Turismos from 1 to 4 and see why your making your self look like a retard.

EDIT: Oh wait you ARE a retard.
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TheMailman  +   1756d ago
This is a joke? They look the same...
Funky Town_TX  +   1755d ago
IDK
The demo looked better for some reason.
Sarcasm  +   1755d ago
"The demo looked better for some reason. "

Because the demo doesn't have the same tracks as Forza 2 so nobody can tell a difference unless you see it side by side.

Needless to say, there's only a marginal improvement from Forza 3 to Forza 2.

Even so, I agree that the Forza 3 demo definitely gave me a different impression.
gameangel  +   1755d ago
They look similar, but Forza 3 is slightly jazzed up in places. Except with the anti-aliasing - Forza 2 has much better power lines, shame on you Turn 10.
Voice of Reason  +   1755d ago
The course in the demo looks much better than this. Guess they just carried over the old Forza 2 course, and made it look a little bit prettier.

Still won't put me off buying it. Hell, you could hold a gun to members of my family, and it still wouldn't put me off getting it.
snake_eater  +   1755d ago
as you can see bots both games are identical...moneybox 360 was maxed out with flopza 2.

360 fanatics owned again
Ron_Burgundy  +   1755d ago
both look like turd smeared across the screen
Nitrowolf2  +   1755d ago
MGR
delusional as always

F2: Car has a shiny look (to shiny)
F3: car looks more like plastic and doesn't have much shine.
um lol, whats next F3 and GTpsp comparison?
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp...
i mean obviously F3 beats it in surrounding enviroment and road, but the cars how they look in psp gt compare to F3. F3 has it beat but dam its almost close
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Dirk Benedict  +   1755d ago
Comparing a flop to a flop.
Serjikal_Strike  +   1755d ago
lol
whats wrong cant u see the difference?

nope ..me neither!
arabiensoldier  +   1755d ago
wow
wow on the guy above me. There is a world out there might wanna check it out
Dutch Boogie  +   1755d ago
hmm he/she mentioned a gun and family in the same sentence. Must be American.
badz149  +   1755d ago
or...
he must just hates his family!
Traveler  +   1755d ago
Shut your trap Dutch Boogie. You have no business spewing hate in the gamer zone.
HolaTarola  +   1755d ago
Turn 10
The worst 1st party dev on any console. Period.
Funky Town_TX  +   1755d ago
Is it just me
or do these game look like sh8t. When I played the Forza 3 demo it looked 10 times better than these pics. Maybe these are just low res re-sized shots?
SaberEdge  +   1755d ago
People always say that, though. GT fanboys say "it doesn't look like that on my tv" and the Forza fanboys say the same thing. And they are right --those games do look different when you see it on a HDTV. But the fact is, when you capture the output directly this is what the games look like.
Dirk Benedict  +   1755d ago
The only difference I see is one flopped before the other.
saint_john_paul_ii  +   1755d ago
"Because as we all know, graphics=quality. /s"
you're right.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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rroded  +   1755d ago
good vids but no ones gonna talk about it
its a ms game dont matter how buggy it is every major game review site jus pretends its fine... Look at Mass defect super buggy game passed off as AAA on the 360 tho the pc version was solid. Fact is the 360 has reached its limit and then some. Show me one ps3 game this flawed there isnt one cause Sony has something called Quality control all ms cares about is making a quick buck.

lets jus hope the final builds a little more stable tho ive never seen a racer so buggy. Heck even ps1 games do a better job take 10 sucks large.
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thereapersson  +   1755d ago
I lol'ed at the car stuck in the sand
The real killer  +   1755d ago
Strange..........
Last time i saw GT5 vs Forza 3 Suzuka F430 comparison and this is the same picture with this one, it's very strange.
Killz79  +   1755d ago
Why still making these comparisons?
Dutch Boogie  +   1755d ago
meh no difference, and judging by the demo i'd say may statement is just about right.
Traveler  +   1755d ago
Actually, the Forza 3 demo that I played does look noticeably better than Forza 2.

Why again are some of you here just to hate on Forza?
aaron5829  +   1755d ago
People wont hate on Forza...
If Turn 10 had let their Forza 3 game talk for itself..

Instead, they picked on GT. Being bullish.. and say things like Forza 3 is years ahead of all the racing games bullsh1t. Definitive racing game .... this and that and blablabla... better than GT bullsh1t.

I love racing games in general, but Turn 10 deserved a punch in the face... by promising so much, and delivering so little.

Imagine, this happens to a PS3 game... the media will be all over it...
Strikepackage Bravo  +   1755d ago
See this is why I don't trust that site
The first thing I did after downloading the Forza3 demo was pop in Forza 2 and compare the graphics, Forza3 looks tons better than Forza 2. How ever it doesn't show in these screenshots for some reason. So is it fowl play by that website or is it just that screenshots don't reflect the in game appearance very well?
mxpxboy  +   1755d ago
The dude that runs gameswire.net is a 360 fanboy. As evident by his Forza 3 is better than GT5 article.

http://www.gameswire.net/co...

PS- It's "foul" play. We're not talking chickens here.
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bekum_aka_jarhed  +   1755d ago
LOOKS SAME EXCEPT FORZA 3 BAD GRAPHICS
DigitalAnalog  +   1755d ago
Had Turn 10 decided to shut their mouths instead of running it arrogantly against the competition. I can guarantee 70% drop of PS3 attacks in every Forza article.

A lot of people tend to mix the difference between "Forza 3 sucks" and "Forza 3 doesn't deliver it's promise" - most of the GT fans here are obviously on the latter side of the argument.

If you call the shots, DELIVER. You have no one to blame but yourself when you're being called upon it!
tuglu_pati  +   1755d ago
Forza 3 looks better, i notice the backgrounds in F3 has more jaggies than the ones on F2, while the car on Forza 2 has more jaggies than the one on F3. Overall forza 3 looks better.
JANF  +   1755d ago
Sizable step up. Better lighting, more detailed backgrounds and better cars. Everything in forza 3 looks better.
strickers  +   1755d ago
If sizable to you is 10 to 15 percent then fine.I'd call it slight.This is what happens when you build an easy to program but limited machine.Marginal improvements between sequels.I'd call 50 percent better sizable.This slight improvement is something you'd better get used to,there are no leaps left on 360.
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DelbertGrady  +   1755d ago
Both look great, and believe it or not some of us are actually more interested in what it plays like =)
ShuUemura  +   1755d ago
My gosh gamewires.net.
What the hell is this guy doing with these comparisons?
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Citizen_King  +   1755d ago
Now Forza is comparing against itself?? lol
xg-ei8ht  +   1755d ago
I asked a friend what one was forza3 and he pointed at forza2.

Forza 2.4 has arrived.

http://www.gameswire.net/co...

Dam that is ugly in both versions.
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