John McCarroll: "Ignore the scores to the right of this paragraph. Demon's Souls is a game that escapes being numerically defined by a scale, since it will mean so many different things to so many different people. Demon's Souls is tough, stylistically different from anything you've ever played before, and introduces gameplay elements that are at the same time both archaic and gloriously new. It's a game that some people will play time and time again and some people will absolutely abhor. Which type of gamer are you? Hopefully this review will help you figure that out, because if you're in the first group, this is a day one purchase." 86/100
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"A day one purchase"? with most other sites saying the same thing, and rating it 5 of 5 stars and such, how does someone come up with 86?
http://www.rpgfan.com/revie...
Read that, then post again. A good game doesn't need to follow YOUR grading scale to be good.
From what I hear while its good, its also hard as hell. Maybe only for the true hard-core RPG fan.
I've always made my purchase decision on my judgment of the game and based on what I read not what people score it. And you know what, many hype titles are not for me. Call me weird if you like but I enjoy the more nitch titles like Disgaea 3/VC/ and I will enjoy Demon's Soul. A number is meaningless unless it can be backed up.
http://www.rpgamer.com/game...
5/5
Two sites with RPG in their name. One high score and one low score. Oh well.
RPGfan has never given out a 100/100. Ever.
The closet game to get it was Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2, with a 99/100, and is also a game that I would bet 99% of the people who post on n4g have never played.
RPGfan does not cater to n4g, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Everyone knows this game is a 9.0. Just drop the 85 to 100 scores and you'll have your average. This game wasn't supposed to be a big hit. So, I'm getting this game for sure!
I love it when the PS3 releases games that don't have much hype and surprise the industry. Valkyria Chronicles comes to mind. Now Demon's Souls!
:D
"Reviews Grading Scale
90-100: Great - Games that score in this category are highly recommended by the reviewer. It is likely that these games are almost universally liked.
80-89: Good - This category describes games in which most things are done right. While this game will most likely end up giving you a quality experience, it is not a true classic.
70-79: Average - These games are neither bad nor good. You will probably find something to enjoy about them, but the amount of faults keeps the game from scoring higher.
60-69: Mediocre/Subpar - These are games in which the shortcomings far outweigh the strengths. It is recommended that only devoted fans of the specific genre or theme devote time to playing. While this game may satisfy a niche group of fans, its appeal is not wide enough to be truly enjoyed.
59 or below: Bad - These games are not recommended at all. They have little to no redeeming qualities, and you will more than likely find them to be a complete waste of your time. Play at your own risk."
According to their review scale RPGFan probably couldn't give Demon's souls a 90+ because it would not be one of the games that are "almost universally liked." because of the difficulty will make some noobs cry
But from reading other reviews Demon's souls doesn't belong in that "it is not a true classic" category either, because this game has already reached fanatical cult status with people still importing the game two weeks ago when the NA release date is tomorrow. And some who have already beaten the Asian release are picking this game up again tomorrow to wreak havoc on or to help out noobs on the NA servers.
I can't wait for more people to play it (me included!) to hear more opinions about this game, because it seems that the difficulty could be a great boon or a detriment to this game's sales and legacy.
EDIT:
I'm starting to think the difficulty is scaring people... Heck, I'll admit that I had reservations when I read that the game can be maddingly frustrating, but I still pre-ordered.
I just figured that much of the difficulty could be offset by the Blue Phantom co-op (which I heard makes the game TOO easy, and noobs should beat the game on their own first to get the full experience)
Maybe the devs should have added an offline easier difficulty level and be done with it. I think that would appease all of the reviewers and noobs alike, helping Demon's Souls reach "true classic" level
I cannot duh you though for your comments and the score you gave it. Nope, not duh-able at all. You could have given it a 9 or 9.5.
Maybe you should add me to your PSN friends list and see for your self that I got the Asian Version of this game and also got the Platinum. Go ahead, I dare you...
Uh huh...
the scale for games at N4G is
9.5 to 10 - masterpiece
9.0 to 9.4 - reserved for hyped games or "AAA" exclusives
8.9 and below - crap
you mean "the scale for exclusive games at N4G is"
Oh no, you mean "the scale for PS3 exclusive games at N4G is"
AAA!?
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
Demon's souls > ODLC
FACT
Why would you even say that? They not the same genera.
Anyways, regardless of what score it gets, I'm still buying this game NO MATTER WHAT! :D
I'm back, kids.
I hate the freakin' Open Zone.
If anything Ninja Blade felt too easy when it's being played by Ninja Gaiden Vets.
I'm still divided upon whether or not I should ever get Demon's Souls. I like a game with a great story. Demon's Souls looks like a quiet experience. Quiet and difficult. I think in the end I might throw my controller around and be frustrated with the experience.
The entire atmosphere of the game is paced so brilliantly assuming you have the skill to progress. The story definitely isn't traditional, you're not some chump hero going in to save the day. Your a person going into the zone for your own reasons with an unknown cause your motive is your imagination.
I could go on and on and on about this game, but I realize not everyone is going to share the same opinion. It's my personal favorite game this generation and maybe of all time. It's definitely up there as far as I know.
I will buy it when it goes on sale after the holiday...too many big hitters coming out.
Before I get 100 disagrees...The heavy hitters include Uncharted 2 and God of War Collection.
Is it me or majors Xbox 360 fanboys are accepting that the PS3 is a great console? These past weeks I saw people like GiantEnemyCrab, XDF, TooPwned, etc, make logic comments about the PS3 and its games, what happened?
The only delusional Xbox fanboys around are Ididnormurderhim and Halo3MLG (or something like that).. Nice to see this btw.
the sane xbox 360 fans didn't expect microsoft to do as well this gen as they have. honestly, who did? we ALL expected sony to steamroll the competition.
there were really no "xbox fanboys" before the 360. just people who "owned an xbox.....next to their ps2". of course i wont deny you have a few bad apples in the bunch.
it's just that it wasn't until sony completely fumbled their own console's launch this gen that these factions started popping up, with some people being content with having only a 360, instead of having a 360 just because to play some of the xbox exclusives, while always keeping a sony system around.
so in short, any sane 360 owner will tell you you Do get more bang for your buck with a ps3. ill admit it. but...in a sense, the 360 is "good enough" and for some people thats all that matters.
360 SHOULDNT be in the position it is right now. everyone expected that, and in a way made 360 owners more "humble" in the fact that they didn't expect to have so many previously sony only franchises come onto the system. Sony gave it that position.
Nice one v1c1ous, i'm going to bookmark your comment, what you said is the thing I always wanted to say, I just never found the words, until today that is. Thank's.
OMG!!!
Are there still Xbox fans this delusional???
That is so hilariously sad! Love it!
Microsoft craps out the biggest console failure in history and the hardcore fans are still desperately sitting around in forums trying to pretend their POS console isn't the laughing stock of the console world.
There may not have been Xbox fanboys in the PS2 era, which I highly doubt, but there were certainly PS2 haters. Especially when it caught the blame for the death of the Dreamcast and the fall of Sega.
Why is my comment part of someone else's?
360 fanboys are admitting that the PS3 is good.
PS3 fanboys are still complaining that Halo: ODLC isn't worth it.
Almost makes me proud to be a 360 fanboy :)
How can our public education fail us more? It's like I'm paying my taxes just for kids to blow it on games and fail at reading articles competently. I don't mind my tax money being used to pay for games, but good God: please learn how to read properly before you go to apply for a job.
@Major Tom
*counted out*
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Now, I'll admit, I didn't read it either, but I already own this game, so I know how subjective the score for Demon's Souls can be. Plus I couldn't care less about a score for a game I liked. Who cares what other people might say about it, when my opinion is, it's a great game? That's all those numbers really are, the reviewer's opinion. No one should get too worked up over opinions. =\
Its not like you fight hard, then dialog to move the story, then fight hard.
You experience the story through interaction with the world and NPC's that are sprinkled throughout the game.
I couldnt help myself and preordered this game off Amazon. A game that is this difficult and sublte in many ways is something I want to give a shot. I can't think of too many reviews that say games are "Fascinating" anymore. Alternating this with Uncharted 2 will keep me sane and hopefully not throwing controlers.
demon souls is really interesting but I'm confused on some thing when these black phantoms attack you in the game and kill you what do they take from you can they take your money or Armour? i know they take your souls but is that it? and what can you take from them, but cant wait for the game its going be nice to have a challenge for a change.
so you really shouldnt worry, except maybe early on in the game when you havent really got anything yet, it sucks to lose the souls to someone :P but when you gain levels and get better, you will stop caring about souls. i can lose a million and dont care at all, because i dont need them for anything.
The black phantoms mostly attack you for one reason: to get their human body back. If they beat you, they become a human again. (The other reason they attack you is because they like doing it.) The good news is, you can summon blue souls to help you fight off black phantoms. But you'll only be attacked by them if you yourself are a human. When you die as a human you become a soul, but you can either become a black phantom to get your body back, or become a blue phantom and help people kill demons to get your body back. Or just play like that and kill a demon yourself.
It's a little confusing at first. Just play with it, you'll get the hang of it.
but i completely understand if some people might score it lower. i mean, it can be very difficult. and there are some other things that some people might not like.. but for me all those things fit in the game perfectly (like no voice chat, it would break the game somewhat).
it's awesome to see this getting such high scores all around though, i really expected this game to be WAY more divisive, i thought i'd see nothing but 4/10 and 10/10 scores, lol.