According to PS3fanboy.com, many people are not really liking the PS3 price tag, and are signing a petition asking Sony to drop the price of the PS3 immediately.
If you want to sign the petition, click the link.
This can't be serious...
I'm not happy cars run over $1000, let's make a petition?
I'm made food doesn't come with my fridge, let's petition.
This is getting ridiculous now.
sony is losing money on their consoles as it is.
I don't think it is apparent to someone.
While it is a good deal(technologically speaking for the price, not the games, yet at least), i think a lot of people might be having a hard time justifying 600 dollars when there aren't many games out for it, or are even able to afford it. And then there are just some people who just complain about everything.
However, even without a price drop, we will see PS3 sales go up, once alot of the upcoming PS3 games come out.
At this point, I don't see sales going up until, like you mentioned, good games come out.
However, I find this petition completely silly. It's not going to boost sales enough to make a difference. And there's no way in a hell a petition is going to drop the price.
unless it gains a MASS following, and they decide to not buy a PS3 even when good games come out, until Sony drops the price, but i highly doubt that will occur.
...Sony's sales pitch that you're getting a lot of technology for your buck has fallen of deaf ears. Most (I repeat, most) consumers probably regard it as an expensive device for playing games and all the crap about Blu-Ray playback, being able to run Linux, blah, blah, blah, amounts to nothing.
Plain and simple, Sony needs to drop the price so its cheaper than the Xbox 360. The PS2 was always cheaper than the original Xbox so that made the choice easier for last-gen consumers.
Sony needs a price cut and thats a fact. Unless Sony is happy with only 5,000,000 fanboys as his customers.PERIOD
With Sony currently loosing aroun $US260 per 60gig console, and having lost $US1.3 billion in their gaming divisons year ending '06 and a further $US1.9 billion in the gaming divison the first quarter '07. A record high for Sony over the last 7 years - not a target they want to be shouting from the rooftops, that's for sure . . . Dropping the price "immediately" is not only an absurd request, but a sure sign that those on the petition have little knowledge of what mess Sony are currrently in financially in that division.
Sony have stated that there's little hope of a price drop for the next 21 years, as the current model stands. There has been talk of it making some drastic cahnges, like removingthe Blu-Ray player, and replacingit with something else, but this would shaft many developers that have already began work on Blu-Ray based games.
To reduce cost this early in a production cycle is extremely hard, it's taken MS Xbox-Div almost 2 years to get to a stage where they are breaking even in parts pricing, but not in production costs. This will only happen once they implement the 65nm CPU in Spring (US). SO expecting the same from Sony this early, is again a sign that many Sony gamers have little knowledge of what has gone on or is going on behind the sceens at SES.
Far too many are quick to condemn a platform for its misfortunes, and unfortunately, it seems many Sony fans have one tracked minds with regards to getting what they want, even at the expense of the platform they are supposedl supporting. If they want Sony's Gaming Division out of the gaming arena, then yes, by all means petition the hell out of Sony to reduce their consoles RRP, because that's what will happen.
Just wanted to say it was Sony's biggest lost in 4 years, not seven.
lol only 2 signatures
so much for a mass following.
there prob not signing it because they dont think Sony will drop the price, also i am not going to get one til a the price drops, and b until more great games come available, at the moment the Xbox 360 line up will keep me happy for a long time =D
but sony consoles get more and more expensive, its about time sony gave consumers what they want, not blu-ray or any of the gimmics that keep pushing the price up
they blew it for alot of people this time round, i have no doubt the ps3 is better value then the wii but when there is a cheeper option in the 360 so many people will buy that instead
like me im sure there are alot of people that may put more consideration into buying a ps3 if it was cheeper, but right now ill pass thanks
The PS3 is the best value out there even at $600.
There is so much built into the box $600 is really cheap and the heavy losses they are taking on each sold reflect that.
you say the ps3 is the best value and that may r may not be true depending on what features you actually want
i want games and great online so yes the price is too much, not everybody wants blu-ray but its forced on people anyway and i can live without motion controlls thanx
for what they pack into the ps3 it probably is a good price....BUT its not a good price for a CONSOLE
and im not suporting either bluray or hd-dvd, ill wait till there is just one standard before wasteing my money
but forget the core of the machines cause that's apple's and oranges.
But just feature-wise it's a better value.
You get 60 gig HDD, Wi-fi, memory card reader, wireless control, plug and charge option built in to recharge your controller. Then to top it off you get blu-ray added to that and it's backwards compatiable with(most, about 95%) PS1/2 games. Now the Blu-ray movie playback is somthing I don't use that often but it's nice to have. Add all that to a 360 and you're well past $600 and the wii offers nothing to compete with either. yeah PSN isn't Xbox live but at the same time I'm not paying $50 a year for somthing I really don't care for.
Not wanting to flame but $600 is really a great deal for everything this machine can do. Exclusive games are a little low right now but multi-platforms and ports are there and available and I have had nothing but fun with mine since NOV 17th.
Not sure why you assume people don't want Blu-ray.
I wanted the Blu-ray and the Cell. The price didn't bother me, but alas, I'm sure it is out of the question for many.
Anyway, online petitions are essentially useless due to the fact that no proper signatures are given, and "signatures" can be made multiple times by the same people, giving it no true meaning.
if we dont like something, we just get an online petition..
petitions regarding video games recently. I think a few months ago one was about keeping DMC4 exclusive.
One good petition recently though regarding video games was against jack Thompson
"One good petition recently though regarding video games was against jack Thompson"
and i missed it! =( *cries* i hate him and i would have DEFFINATLY signed that!
Sony is losing big $$$$$ for every Playstation 3 sold,they can't afford to lose anymore money,so if a MAJOR PRICE DROP happens,Sony might vanish forever due to $$$$$ problems they are facing,but like snoop_dizzle said,Playstation 3's are going to sell even without a price drop as soon as Sony starts flowing great games torward the PS3
I don't know,I'm just happy to own mine along with my trusty 360:)
but yeah it still wouldn't be good for Sony to drop the price just yet.
according to Sony tards everything is under control " Sony knows what is doing, bla, bla, bla". If such a good plan they have drop the price, in the long run the're going to win, right? Isn't that what fantards say everyday.
Price cut FTW, sign me up.
Sign me up :)
there is still only 2 signed!
you do know that you only have to follow the link then press the "make signatures yeh?
as for me im not going to unless loads more do as i dont think Sony can afford to do a price cut as of yet
cuz I'm not gonna blow 6 bills(600 dollars for those who don't know) US on a game console. Simply NOT gonna happen.
way to much.
$200-$300 is the magic mark boys, let's see who can get there first.
yeh but both you 2 above me havnt signed it, there is still only 2 signatures... maybe it will pick up later
I say we start a petition to make people wait for a price cut.
I dont think 2 signatures is gonna cut it.
Just wait after the Holiday season when Home, Ps3 EYE and all the games come out. If the ps3 continues to sell below normal then you'll see a price cut.
are below normal, remember Sony is the leader, the champ, the king. Why in earth are we cutting them some slack? You want to stay on top, show me the money, SHOW ME THE MONEY.
Does all the cry babies that want a price cut need a bottle?
You want "next-gen" it COSTS, don't like it WAIT!
Sony doesn't OWE you anything since you didn't buy ANYTHING, PS2 is in the past so don't give me "stuff" about how you bought your PS2 so now Sony owes you something in return, how about 6+ years of pure entertainment from that system.
I swear you guys get a taste of whats coming out on the PS3 and now you want one but don't want to pay to play, TOO F'IN BAD!
I want a Hayabusa but don't want to pay $13,000
Where do I start a Petition?
This is stupid.
Just get a 2000 or lower year hayabusa. They are cheaper and faster, 200+ mph. And much faster than a ZX12R. Later year Hayabusa's are more expensive and slower, 175< mph. ZX12R matches speed. lol
Anyways, back on topic......................... ...............WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE THINKING!!!!???? 0_0
New Sony Fanboys Super Weapon = Online Petitions.
This always happens with successful consoles. //sarcasm alert//
I can afford US$1000 mobilephone (O2 XDA IIs, Nokia 9500, Nokia 8810, and others)
why can't I afford a next gen console cost for $600??
now, I quit buying stupid expensive mobile phones that keep releasing a newer version every year.
ipod = $300
Motorola V3 = $350
SE900i = $400
O2 XDA IIs = $1000
Nokia 8810 = $1300 (when release)
iPAQ 9780 = $600
Clie N90 = $650
XBOX = $360
PS2 = $300
PS3 = $600
all technologies adavance is cost more... after I bought ps3, then I start to feel that mobile phone is over priced...
Exactly! People see 600$, and immediately think its way too much. Then they get 300$ cell phones that cost 40$/month to use.
Also, if you can't afford 600$, then you cant afford the 2000$ hdtvs that makes the thing worth while. I'm sure you feel its overpriced if you can't see the difference on your 27" SD tv. Buy the wii instead or stay with your ps2 (there are still new games being made). Its a new piece of technology, and as many have stated above, Sony is already loosing money by sellign it to consumers at that price. Either put your money away, or if your parents tell you its a too expensive gift, then maybe you should realise that your just not old/ready to handle the power of the PS3!
But i do praise you for trying. MAybe your parents will buy you one if thewy see you're actually getting of your ass and doing something about it (i mean that metaphorically, since you dont need to get of your ass to sign an online petition)
And really, if you want to, instead of buying a pc to make online petitions, save your money and buy the ps3 for a lesser cost (it does come with a browser ya know) and install linux.
seriously, not gonna happen, some people need to stop moaning. The games are coming, (wait for xbots to reply in parrot fashion as always about PS3 owners always stating that.) You get what you pay for, and as alot of people have stated, thats alot of new technology under the hood in Sony's machine.
Why is it that most of the arguments about price always state $$$$. US people get it way cheaper than us Brits. You want a price cut, you've already got it if you compare to the £ (pound) or Euro. We pay just for the machine (no games or extras) in comparison $839.46. So by calculation you've already got a price cut compared to europe in the area of $239.
We would all like it cheaper, and in time, the price will come down. Just not right now. If you wanna jump on the next gen band wagon. You pay for it, if not, wait 2 years and it will be cheaper. Always happens every Gen, from the days of the mega drive til' now.
M$ also lost a lot of money on the 360 for the first year...this is ALWYS the case with a new console, even going back to the 8bit days.
All the people crying for a price cut shoudl just go and buy a 360 which will have the same experience essentially game wise as a PS3, its like apples and pears...
My feeling is that PS3 price point is just above many people's comfort zone. It is only inviting only the privileged few or enthusiast to own one. The estimated cost of producing a PS3 is well documented around the web and Sony will not bring prices down unless their read on the market is unfavourable to them.
So to those who can not wait to get their hands on the latest gadget, go right ahead. Or you can sit on the fence and wait until you feel it is the right time to make the plunge. For me... my bump is is getting numb, but I'm still waiting...
What happened to " First 5 Million will be picked up without any games or apps" ? They need to reduce the price to stay competitive since very few AAA titles will be making a round this year. They can't sit on a huge pile of ps3s lying in the channel and on top of that keep producing more with bearing even more losses.
STOP being ARROGANT anymore and LISTEN Sony, bring the price of the PS3 DOWN NOW ! ! !
PS3 is already cheap for what u get
save ur money and when u have enough buy one. the price isnt high at all - i still dont see y ppl are making a big deal about this
Again.. you are stuck with your love for the PS3 and not looking at what really matters.
10,000,000 for a mansion with all the luxuries is "cheap for what u get"... it does not change the fact that eventhough we all love to have one, many of us can't aford it.
This is not about what the PS3 has or how good it is... but why it's not selling like Sony expect it.
Here I make it easy for you... Name one console that was price highter ($200-$300) than any other console of during its time that sold better than the cheaper alternatives...
How do you think the PS3 would be selling if it was priced like the wii? No one is arguying that the PS3 is great and cheap for what it comes with.... but that it's too expensive for the main stream.. period.
Take the new IPhone for example, would you pay that much for a phone? Some people would... but others will sit down and think... "all I am trying to do is make phone calls... I can get another great phone and still have money to buy something else".... Get it?
Let's not forget that for the mainstream... the PS3 is just a Game Console with not so many games, which graphics (base on comparison) are the same or near what others offer... and though it has built in HD drive... 1) Person may not have an HD TV. 2) May not be interested on jumping into the HD war too early. 3) May prefer HD DVD.
What I said has nothing to do with value, but simply overall price.
And I don't have to prove you anything with words...
Take a look at the sale charts? If is not because of price... why are PS3 sells going down month by month?
Close_Second - "Plain and simple, Sony needs to drop the price so its cheaper than the Xbox 360"
Umm, this is not going to happen. Do people realize they would be taking a huge RISK, at a chance of trying to accelerate PROFITS.
If that does not happen they RISK loosing more and more money and falling behind. Since the xbox360, which is SONY's real competition (in terms of Hardcore gaming) would also drop their prices, adding another factor. All about STRATEGIES...
Even if there was a price-drop, how much money are we talking about?
How much are gamers willing to spend? Why don't we ask that?
If SONY was to minus $100, then we would be at $500, + a Game+ Controller + Warranty, well that barrels you right back up there to like $700(depending how many games you buy or can afford), so is it going to be a substantial drop?, when they do decide to drop it.
I can't see them dropping the price by -$200. If they eventually do?
Then dont get it plain and simple if u can afford to play last gen then u can afford to to play this gen..just save your money its not that hard or w8 for a price cut...all of these systms are expensives far as i am concerned from the wii to the ps3..HAVE U SEEN THE PRICE OF A WII CONTROLLER
what really makes me wonder is what will sell PS3s this year or the end of this year(though the same could be said about the 360 as well). Games like MGS4 have been moved further and further. Next year the PS3 will do great, and chances are a price cut will occur, but for now, the PS3 just isn't doing that good.
As for me I am saving up for a PS3 and well even if i had the money, i wouldn't buy one now. But by next year, I'm hoping to have all three next gen consoles.
after work and buy one. BUT, I've been gaming for a while and I'm not sold. As an RPG fan, the PS is where its at and that's mostly what I would play on it.(I like that Folklore game I seen on here)
I don't like the Dualshock 3 + Motion sensing, for FPS as I hate where the triggers(hey don't feel like real triggers) and Analogs are placed. 360 does it best for that.
Even before that I got a dinky 27inch SAMSUNG HDTV that I would most likely upgrade to a 1080P before I get another console. Just not now.
i haven't seen as many with sony, and Mosft is slowly starting to have RPG's.
Though soon we might see a lot more RPS's in the Works for the PS3.
not happening ppl
You could do like i did and buy it from ebgames. Here in Canada they had a few deals going on. I traded 10 ps2 games(mostly rpgs that i wasnt planning on playing through twice) and my ps2 (ps3 is backwards capatible) and its cost me 350$ for a brand-spanking new ps3! The Wii here is 299$, so its a 50$ difference. Now I just have to wait for the good games to come out!
here's the link for all you canucks wanting a ps3
and my shiny new 60 GB PS3 only cost me $179. :)
This is stupid.
Quit being so cheap.
You definitely get what you pay for.
Some people should have realized it wasn't going to be cheap and started saving some coin earlier.
Myself I threw something like 10 bucks in a jar every week and waited until i had roughly enough (I think I was 90 bucks shy, but I also bought a game so pretty much bang on for the console).
Long story short I was able to get a PS3 about 1 or 2 months after launch.
Suck it up.
do any of you know how many have signed so far?
EDIT. Still only 2? I thought it would get a little more attention.
Don't you all just love being gamers and having games for our
new consoles ooops,this is a Ps3 column,sorry.
Sony Fans especially the Fanboys/girls are blinded by their faith ( is it now a religion too?, a cult following?... quite possibly ) in Sony's judgements.
XBOX 360 WITH THE SAME OPTIONS 699.99. 1 XBOX 360 399.99 WIRLESS ADAP.99.99 HD-DVD PLAYER 199.99 1 PS3 WITH BLU-RAY AND WI-FI 599.99. STOP CRYING.
think as a business ppl
sometimes they are able to, and of course it is good for all of us consumers
but as we speak Sony is loosing money when it comes to the PS3
if they were to have a price cut on the PS3 (right now) it would only hurt Sony
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