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Lens of Truth: DiRT2 Analysis (720p)

Lens of Truth writes, "For almost a year now, the Lens of Truth staff have been striving to be your number one website by giving the gamer an unbiased and uninfluenced video game comparison you can trust. The Lens of Truth staff is proud to introduce, for the first time, the future of Head2Heads beginning with Dirt 2. We hope our new frame analysis and score breakdown will ultimately help you determine which version is the definitive purchase. Enjoy." (DiRT 2, PS3, Xbox 360)

RudeSole Devil  +   1327d ago
WOW
LOT Analysis rocks, much easier to follow and looks really cool. BTW the PS3 screen tearing was disgusting. Digital Foundry EAT YOUR HEART OUT....
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Real Gambler  +   1327d ago
Don't even bother reading them anymore....
Makes me laugh when people are comparing racing games to see if one has more pixels than the other...

All I do care about is if one has deformation and the other doesn't and if one use a steering wheel and the other doesn't. But when those guys check a racing games, they will tell you that there's one less pixel on a car hood and it's blurry while you're driving 100mph, but they don't even care what it look like after you ram a wall at that speed.

So, how to pick a racing game is easy for me:
1- Does it work with my racing wheel? (Though, I've bought a few games that didn't... They have to be truly awesome though)
2- Does it get my heartbeat going?
3- Can I start the game with a black car and finish the race with 7 more colors on it (trading paint) by the time I finish it.

If the answer is yes to all 3, I'll buy it, and I don't care if one has 2 pixels less than the other.

PS: And when is the G27 racing wheel coming out &%??%&%?...
I did not murder him  +   1327d ago
http://www.lensoftruth.com/...
http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

Looks like that same fuzzy blur that's in Lost Planet 2 for the PS3 but not as bad, so it won't be as bad on your eyes as Lost Planet 2 for PS3 is. Not a big problem for PS3 only owners if you don't play too long.

BUT DAM... "Xbox 360 throws some dirt into the grill of the PlayStation 3 by sporting far less screen tearing. While the Xbox 360 version wasn’t tear free, the visual impact of the screen tearing was held to a minimum creating a more enjoyable experience."
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darkride66  +   1327d ago
That's a deal breaker.
Graphics the same, loading the same,screen tearing - PS3 sucks.
Personally, I don't mind a little screen tearing, but screen tearing to the point where it interferes with the gameplay is unacceptable.

Codemasters really screwed the pooch on the PS3 version this time, if LOT is to be believed. Given the excellent titles availabe on the PS3 at this point, we shouldn't have to deal with developers too lazy to optimize their code for the hardware they're working on.
Sarcasm  +   1327d ago
"Codemasters really screwed the pooch on the PS3 version this time, if"

It's about 11%... which is not as bad as something like Red Faction Guerilla that had 50% screen tearing *as mentioned in a comment in the article*
darkride66  +   1327d ago
Well that doesn't sound so bad.
LOT said that the screen tearing was so bad it interfered with the gameplay. If that was true, Codemasters would have something to answer for. So was LOT just exaggerating then? Anyone play the PS3 version who can say if the screen tear hurt the gameplay?
commodore64  +   1326d ago
hmmm....

I guess it's safe to say that the ps3 multiplat of dirt2 is verily gimped!
..another one to add to the list, it seems.

(quote from the article)
"Unfortunately, the PlayStation 3 version took a face plant into the dirt by screen tearing far more than the Xbox 360 version did in almost every race. And to add fuel to the fire, the screen tearing actually was bad enough to distract us from controlling the car, which directly affected gameplay."

"PS3 Avg FPS – 29.63 / Xbox 360 Avg FPS – 29.59 / Ps3 Avg Frame Tears – 11.45% / Xbox 360 Avg Frame Tears – 1.52%"

Problem is, this happens all too often:
PS3 screen tear; PS3 blurriness; PS3 slower loading times; PS3 mandatory hdd installs; PS3 reduced textures.

Sure, these faults don't all-happen-at-once-all-the-tim e, but more often than not, two or more of these hallmarks of ps3 'multiplat-gimping' rear their ugly heads.

What is particularly interesting, is that no matter how often this happens, we can count on ps3 fans blaming developers for not expending extra unnecessary resources on getting the ps3 version up to scratch.
Nothing new to see here, people.

In fact, this is getting kinda tired.

Why don't we instead start praising the developers for taking advantage of the 360 architecture and producing the generally clearly superior mutiplats, while maintaining their limited budgets, for the good of the gaming industry?

Fact is, if a developer makes a great ps3 game, but goes broke in the process due to spending more money on development than can be recouped, then everybody loses!

That just common sense, right?
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TheColbertinator  +   1327d ago
Agreed.I noticed more screen tearing when I played the PS3 version
RudeSole Devil  +   1327d ago
Right
Xbox 360 always outperforms PS3..
CernaML  +   1327d ago
When the PS3 version screen tears, the 360 version is hardly affected by it. When the 360 version screen tears, the PS3 version is hardly affected by it. I've been noticing that during these H2Hs.

@RudeSole Devil:

Now you've done it... Here come the exclusive arguments.
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TheColbertinator  +   1327d ago
Not exactly.Sometimes the PS3 has had a few victories

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

Most of the time 360 wins,not always though
doG_beLIEfs  +   1327d ago
Rudy ol boy....
UC2, KZ2, HR, GT5, RaC, LG and many more PS3 exclusives fart all over your precious multiplatforms.

So what if PS3 fanboys have VASTLY better looking exclusives...treeshitty fanboys have SOME slightly better looking multiplatforms.

Its like this biatches, you have 2 big macs, one has slightly better looking bread and a pickle is a bit bigger. Both are the same except for some tiny differences due to a different cook preparing it.

Then you have a steak from Denny's (treeshitty exclusive) and a filet mignon from an expensive steakhouse (PS3 exclusive) Both are made from the same animal but one is VASTLY better...which one could that be hmmmm?

So you can have your bigmacs with bigger pickles, I will take the Filet mignon please.
Pandamobile  +   1327d ago
Looked pretty close to me.

The Xbox version had slightly better textures, but the PS3 version had better lighting and shadowing.
Major_Tom  +   1327d ago
I think it was roughly the same, the only real difference is the contrast in the pictures due to the Xbox 360's graphical bug.
darthv72  +   1327d ago
@tom
please explain.

On topic: I think they look the same as well as other more recent multiplats. Sometimes the difference is just the setting of the screen for brightness/contrast. Adjust them and they look identical.
somekindofmike  +   1327d ago
To me the 360 had (ever so) slightly better textures, and in these screen shots the brightness contest was better on 360, but on the shots where the PS3 settings were adjusted properly it was equal on this... why isn't the PS3 set up like this by default???

Also I have the PS3 version of this game, I haven't noticed screen tearing at all??? am I just blind?? i've not been looking for it, so i'm sure it happens once and a while, but it's not even registered with me yet, so to say it's interferes with playing seems extreme to me!
Major_Tom  +   1327d ago
The architecture of the ATi card within the Xbox 360 has a bug and makes things overly contrasted and vibrant, some people prefer it.
darthv72  +   1327d ago
thanks tom
I had never noticed. Are you sure it is a bug in the design and not just what they were going for? I can say that with my set tuned correctly, the 360 looks nice and the ps3 looks a bit dark. I had to actually adjust the contrast to play kz2 because it didnt look right.

When playing games on the 360 it is good but movies come out a bit bright. Ps3 games are dark but movies are just right.

????? go figure.
edhe  +   1327d ago
lol @ 'bug'

K.
jaidek  +   1327d ago
Glad to see these guys enter into the analysis arena. I really like the way they have presented their data, very clear and easy to read.
evildeli  +   1327d ago
I might just buy Forza instead.
LinuxGuru  +   1327d ago
This is a fantastic game. I have played it on both platforms, and my official verdict is that I approve of the look, feel, and quality on both systems.

Good job Codemasters!

@ Below

I'm at level 20 on both consoles
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creeping judas  +   1327d ago
My only compliant is the repetition of the courses, once you get above level 30, striving for 100% completion.
jaidek  +   1327d ago
I agree. Codemasters did a phenomenal job with the graphics on this game. I am looking forward to seeing what Operation Flashpoint 2 looks like running on the EGO engine.
evildeli  +   1327d ago
@LinuxGuru
Why are you playing the same game on two different consoles?
LinuxGuru  +   1327d ago
Because I can? To prove that I can get the same times in racing games on two different controllers? Because I like it? Why not?
evildeli  +   1327d ago
@LinuxGuru
Not condemning, just curious.
Kiroe  +   1327d ago
Well I guess we know which version they developed on. I just wish that developers would take the extra time to make the PS3 version perform as well as the 360. It is really pathetic at this point...
edhe  +   1327d ago
What's the Profit & Loss on that request?

ps3 pays for being different, by having less optimised engines. It's sony's fault for making it that way.

Don't blame the devs when their job's been made more difficult by someone else's decisions.
ArthurLee  +   1327d ago
This game looks incredible on the 360, at times I thought I was watching FMV. Great comparison BTW.
stealyrface  +   1327d ago
wow, the new analyzer is awesome! Too bad the tearing has such a huge difference between the systems. Great game anyway.
xcox  +   1327d ago
the LA track is an unspeakable mess... can't believe they shipped this, the framerate falls to 1 digit and there's screen tearing all over the place...

wtf codemaster?
saraphina017  +   1327d ago
The screen tearing is bad. Since I stink at racing games, it did make things a bit more challenging and I would be less likely to play it on the PS3.

Thanks for giving us the dirt, guys!
Tex117  +   1327d ago
ZOMG! XBOX RULZ!!!!!!!!!!

Or who gives a sheet?

Pick which one you like.
bjornbear  +   1326d ago
Dispite the sillyness of your comment =/
I have to agree, the closer the PS3 is getting to 360 in multiplats (and beating it in some) the less important this becomes =)

I don't get bothered by this at all, and i doubt anyone but people w a 360 and a PS3 do, but considering how small of a demographic those people are compared to those with 1 console, these articles are just pure fanboy fodder =)

EAT UP LITTLE GIRLS!!! THERES PLENTY FOR YOU ALL HERE TO FEED ON..../facepalm
xg-ei8ht  +   1327d ago
Screen tearing in Resevil 5 was bad on 360, just goes to show, happens on both consoles.

Textures are the same for both, the filtering on the 360 is better used. and it shows.

I cannot judge the screen tearing due to the fact the demo has no screen tearing.

But to say the game is unplayable on PS3 due to screen tearing i found funny.

I do wonder does the 360 employ tripple buffering, after reading naughty dogs answer to it i do wonder.

Either way, actually a very good game.

http://www.gamecritics.com/...
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siyrobbo  +   1327d ago
the screen tearing on nearly all capcoms games are really bad when set on any resolution other than 720p, it must be something to do with the engine they use and the scaler. I noticed it with dead rising and resi 5, it was nearly unplayable until i switched to 720p, then it went away nearly completely
Godmars290  +   1327d ago
Enough of this please.
This isn't an issue about hardware, but coding. 360 builds have in-built hurdles when porting to the PS3. End of story.

Until there's a 360 exclusive that looks better than a PS3 one, until there's a former 360 exclusive that doesn't look better on the PS3 because extra time and effort were put in, comparisons like this are only fanboyism at its worse. With the 360 side loosing ground.
doG_beLIEfs  +   1327d ago
These comparisons are just silly
It really makes no sense. Everyone knows that a PS3 exclusive stomps all over 360 exclusives. I find it funny that the 360 boys cling to this multiplatform crap. Even IF the game looks slightly better on the 360 its NOT because the 360 is more powerful rather its because the developer did not optimize the game for the Cell.

But whatever, let the 360 boys have their slightly better in some multiplatform games while we have exclusives that DESTROY the 360 in size, graphics, gameplay, immersiveness, ORIGINALITY, production, animation, sound...etc etc.

For everyone of these comparisons I say GT5, KZ2, UC2, HR, The Show, RaC and many more. Each and everyone of these titles look much better than any 360 exclusive.
Kiroe  +   1327d ago
@doG beLIEfs
You are correct saying that the exclusives look better on the PlayStation 3. And if you are fine playing only exclusives, then stick with it. But unfortunately exclusives only make up roughly 10% of library. The rest of the games out in the marketplace, probably 75% of them, are a better experience on the Xbox 360 because it was the lead platform.

PS3 = for exclusives.
Xbox 360 = for everything else.
xg-ei8ht  +   1327d ago
Tbh godmars, i just switched on the demo on PS3, and there's hardly anything i could notice.

I did notice Screentearing on Uncharted 1 demo, going through the jungle with water running etc. But from what i've heard of naughty dog, the same thing that pc gamers used to do, tripple buffering. But to do so takes 20-30mb ram space. I wonder if naughty dog had that problem. I find it interesting.

But to say the game tears so much on the PS3 playing dirt2 is Talking complete and utter bull.

i still don't trust lens of truth.
darkecho  +   1327d ago
Trust them or not, look at the analysis. They very clearly mark out the tears that are visible due to 30fps and graph the ones that aren't. What's there not to trust? You can't argue with numbers. The PS3 tore more than the 360. The end.
somekindofmike  +   1327d ago
@ darkecho

Yes the tears are very noticable! when marked out with a bright yellow line! but I've got the PS3 version and up until this article was completely unaware of tearing in the game. I'm not saying Lens of Truth have made it all up, it's just that the tearing in no way distracts from the gaming experiences, and in fact did not even register with me.

If your a pixel whore the 360 does win this comparrison, no doubt it has slightly better textures and next to no tearing.

but as far as the gaming experience goes they are both identical and the average gamer won't notice a difference, even when they are right next to each other.
Kiroe  +   1327d ago
@Godmars290
"With the 360 side loosing ground. "

Yeah, you are not a fanboy or anything. As far as I am concerned the PS3 continues to win the exclusive content but consistently loses when it comes to 3rd party games. Developers are getting better with the porting, but even the best have problems on Sony's platform.
Shogun Master  +   1327d ago
Maybe Final Fantasy XIII will change that for good.
evildeli  +   1327d ago
@Shogun Master
I can't wait to see what happens with FFXIII
Marty8370  +   1327d ago
Lens of Bullshit.................
Don't even give this sh#t site hits.
ps3sux  +   1327d ago
..
my name says it all.
Marty8370  +   1327d ago
Yeh rright.............
Bet you have retard tatooed on your forehead too. lol
ULTIMATE_REVENGE  +   1327d ago
Just to remind the bots of how their EXCLUSIVE game look http://img121.imageshack.us...

VS our exclusive games = completely owned
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darkequitus  +   1327d ago
"Ego is a modified version of the Neon game engine that was used in Colin McRae: Dirt and was developed by Codemasters and Sony Computer Entertainment using Sony Computer Entertainment's PhyreEngine cross-platform graphics engine"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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Soul Train  +   1327d ago
wonder why is tears like that then.
Belasco  +   1327d ago
Thats why
These comparisons will never matter to Ps3 fans, because they have UC2 and KZ2, as well as other exclusive games. I readily admit Ps3 exclusives look way better than 360 exclusives, and have been disappointed in the fact that MS has not paid enough attention to 1st party. I believe the 360 can display better than what has been shown.
xg-ei8ht  +   1326d ago
Soul train, what with all my disagrees for my last statement, nobody really cares do they?

I mean, i posted links concerning screentearing, nothing to do with framerate, when means that the 360 version is using render ahead and the ps3 version double buffering i'm guessing.

I bet the next one uses tripple.

But either way, unless i was told about it, and shown that massive 12%/s, playing it you wouldnt even know.
bjornbear  +   1326d ago
Is this what 360 fanboys have to resort to now
to justify their investment on a console? =P...so sad...oh so sad.............

Oh well, i guess its only SLIGHTLY worste, gna buy a 360 now don't want my PS3 for nothing..../sarc

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