Sales for Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 Elite increased this week at a U.S. retailer following the availability of a $50 mail-in rebate for the product.
...but compared to the PS3's increase?
im sure its just a small spike due the resent price cut the 360 got but the spike is a joke compared to the one on the PS3's side
We'll find out when September's NPD numbers are released. Until then, everything is just pointless speculation.
so ms cut the price of the 360 twice within a month. Brilliant. I'm pretty sure ms cut 360's price twice in europe in 2008. Desperation
Why are you guys even comparing it to PS3's increase? M$ is trying to offer as much bang for the buck as possible, the same as Sony or Nintendo would. I don't see anything wrong with it. What IS a problem is that the Elite is overpriced out of the box. It should be $200 for the simple fact that its ONE YEAR older than the PS3. U guys call it "desperation", most consumers would say, "It's a good time ta get a 360." Why is there negativety over consumers getting a BETTER deal on a gaming console???
Here we go with the amazon stuff again.
HELL YEAH its desperation i'd be desperate too if i didn't want to become an embarassing & distant last place like that sony playstation 3
its @ #18 atm... so im guessing this was a temporary spike?
The top Xbox 360 SKU launched 4 years ago at $399. Today's top SKU is $100 dollars less at $299. There is currently a $50 rebate which makes the system $149 less than launch. This is a limited time rebate. The PS3 launched at $599 and has had several $100 cuts along with the hardware getting stripped down so the could cut the retail price in half to $299. These moves by both companies were designed to increase marketshare. If you honestly had to pick one of these companies and call them desperate, do you really think it's not the one that cut significantly more in much less time? -Death
Any price drop for any console maker will have a temporary effect. Price drops have not proven to be sustainable. However, what's interesting is that new software aren't resulting in hardware movement reinforcing that this current generation will be driven by price and not software. @ Death Great point.
A $100 price cut and then 3 weeks later they are giving you $50 back to buy an elite Looking pretty scared there M$
Each price drop brings on the next tier of hardcore gamers until the mass market price point of $199 entices casual gamers. At this point software begins to sell hardware since it becomes much more of an impulse buy. -Death
Crap, wrong response.
Wait what? They did a $50 mail in rebate offer 3 weeks after dropping the price? Are we allowed to say that this is desperation? :o
I have a feeling that it had more to do with ODST being released and marketed as another HALO game. Price cut = small increase. Halo game release = typical large increase in 360 sales.
i bet sweatshops in india could build a better knockoff 360
Oh My God, a pricecut made sales increase? really?!?! That is unheard of! /sarcasm
Desperation is when you could've beaten your opponent ahead of time because you had a nice advantage, but you didn't. You waited and waited, thinking your opponent was out of the league, only until your opponent has caught up to you at a corner do you wait to see what happens, then react to it by doing dirty tricks. Like Paris in the movie Troy... he slept with a king's wife thinking he'll get away with it and he claimed he would fight. But when he did fight he couldn't fight, and when he was down he was desperate. He ran to his brother Hector. Or the tortoise and the hare!
stop with the claims of "desperation" DEATH is right, if anyone is desperate it is Sony. Now here is what I think is going on, MS is trying to sell off all the old Jasper units before they announce the new Valhalla units with a top SKU price of 199. If they announce a Valhalla 120gig unit at 199, they will not be able to sell the old Jaspers at 250 or more, since the Jaspers cost more to make, they want to sell those at no less than 250. The sooner they sell off the Jaspers the sooner they can do their real and final price drop of 199 for the new Valhalla premium with 120GB HDD, 150 for the arcade, and 250 for the new elite with a 250GB HDD.
"The PS3 launched at $599 and has had several $100 cuts along with the hardware getting stripped down so the could cut the retail price in half to $299." They had two entry level price cuts, and that's "Several" to you? Yo yo yo DaWg, Lemme break it down like whaaaa... 60gb $599 and 20gb $499 at launch. $499 is the entry price. 20gb discontinued and 80gb model introduced at $599. 60gb drops to $499. Entry level price stays the same. Then 60gb discontinued, 80gb drops to $499 and 40gb is introduced at $399. Now entry price is $399, which is a real price cut for anybody who wants a PS3. $399 stays the price until this past month when the slim is introduced, now at $299. So really, they've had only two major price cuts.
that Sony allows you to use the Sony Style card (yes I know it can also be used on any Sony product) to get extra money off the ps3? Just wondering...
They have lowered the price $300. That's not easy to do with 2 $100 price cuts. The system has had no less than 3 $100 cuts to get where it is today. By your logic the Xbox 360 has only had 1 $100 cut since the launch SKU's were $399 and $299. Today they are $299 and $199 which is only $100 differance from launch 4 years ago. -Death
at this rate, if sony beats out MS another week, the Elite will come with 3 games bundled at the price of $199 by the end of the month
rolf , MS is scare as hell.
looks like they want September NPD bad, just so when the numbers come up... 360 fanboys: "Welp..looks like the 360 beat PS3 yet AGAIN" PS3 fanboys: "but you guys dropped the price $150" 360: "wah wah wah go home and cry PS3 fanboys! not even a PS3 price drop could beat us!!"
Actually, it may be $99.99 at this rate. o-O
hey ultimolu. does the amount of bubbles you have represent how lame your add-on joke was? yawnnnnn edit: ohhh snap. you went there. you so did not just subliminally say that my xbox 360 has zero games to play with. weaksauce dont play that. i will get you again later when i feel like it. watch your back. no but seriously, it was lame
Um...I was being serious about that? -_- And keep harping about *third* place. Yeah, the third place console actually has games to begin with doesn't it?
There are a lot of exclusives and unique games out on the 3rd place console this year, but too bad not many of them pique my interest - at least there were exclusive games to get though. On the other hand, there weren't that many great games out for the 2nd place console this year, but so far the only good game to get was ODST. But I guess I was game deprived since there were like nothing but multiplatforms before I picked up ODST.
The rebate deal only started yesterday the 22nd. I didn't see there being a rush for 360's yesterday at stores
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What these people are reporting.. WhY?... let me explain the American Way.. If this were an INSTANT REBATE we see this as a great deal BUT when something is offered as MAIL IN it's bull because of the trouble and the up to 16 weeks refund period so screw the talk
Desperation like never before.
wow fella, i didn't realise how much the PS3 was hurting some people. look, you bought your 360 (and it isn't a bad machine) so enjoy it. we can't help it if we went with better quality overall... and now at an affordable price. MS is dead in Japan. watch Europe next my friend, America can wait for another year.
Lol, sales lol, we can argue about sales lol.
GTFO out of here then
Nah, not after your response! That was Epic!
compared to SOnys 84% decrease sales will be on par next week. SLIM 1st week: 550k 2nd week: 300k, lool This week was a sales drop by around 30%.. so sales will be at 210k you will see that the slim will be behind 360 sales next week or at least on par. The ps3 will stay where it is.. at 3rd place. YOu say MS is desperate? hm.. SOny is the company dropping the price by 50% in only 2.5 years and bringing Platinum editions of all their exclusives just after 6 months (lol), cause all games flop in sales. but but but.. cell and quality and best reviews and graphics!!
You sound just as desperate. Who is going to take you seriously in the open zone?
Your idea of small is different from mine, 1 million consoles in 3 weeks, just before Christmas super boom and Uncharted 2 sounds like a big number. PS3 at 25 millon over 156 weeks which is 0.16 million a week, or 450,000 in 3 weeks Sony doubled that. So Yeah the slim+price cut was a success and they netted a lot of money, even at $249.99 to the retailer we are still looking at $250,000,000 to Sony, then we have the games sales increase... With an extra 1 million units Sony will have sold like 2 million games, they probably make likee $5 per games they made 10 million profit on games alone in 3 weeks let alone that PLUS the 25 million other units. So yeah, Sony did well even if they ONLY sold 1,000,000 console and got $260,000,000 revenue which somehow you claim is bad. LOL.
All that's missing is the obnoxious 50 lines of " HA HA HA HA" to make himself look confident. bots are funny that way...
550K consoles a week is 2 million consoles per month. Nobody expected them to maintain that pace.
one man think to himself its from desperation. another man think to him self man that's a good deal.
obvious...this new tactic is stupid, giving a rebate for a week...M$ dont be so naive!
The Sony Sales Spike, it will become legend in gaming history. It will be known as SSS. People will say "Do you remember the SSS?" and they will reply.. "Oh yeah, if only it lasted forever" And they would smoke a pipe.
this rebate is only set to try to offset the horrible upcoming NPDs. With a boost this late in the month and not for very long they can try to make things not look as bad as it is. Look for something similar in October
they got something new coming out they want to get rid of the elites they have now
This Elite is new, and they took crap out the box when they made it $299. The 250GB Elite bundle is limited. PS3 still dominates top 10. This won't stop PS3. MS is severely pathetic.
Or, and I'm just throwing this out there, they could sell...more?
Ummm duh that was the point lol
Sony, MS, and Nintendo make price cuts in order to boost sales, it's simple, they need to have their products at a reasonable price next to the competition. It has nothing to do with being desperate or being worried.
it definatley won't decrease lol!. Again these are just half-measures. The arcade needs to be at $129 or $99.
so what happened to all the 360 fans who bought elites for 399 all year long and now find people getting same thing for 250? a least Sony changed to a new model with the new lower price so that customers didn't feel shafted. and were giving deals to customers who were buying the old fat models
so you must feel bad for the people who bought a 20gb ps3 for 499 and a 60 gb for 599? because those people got shafted lol
If this doesn't work to keep them on top... Expect the FUD machineguns to open fire (as if that Watchdog fiasco headed by Ian Lee or w/e his name is wasn't enough).
MS mimics whatever Sony does. Price drop, new color controller etc. But it seems not working well for MS. I wonder if MS will hire Kevin Butler for its commercial.
yeah i noticed that too. like how the Sony PS3 copied the first xbox last generation by not being in first place freakin M$ dood. always copying
"freakin M$ dood. always copying" Hey Weak Sauce, lemme clue ya in on something..EVERYBODY copies and EVERYBODY gets inspiration from somewhere. Sony copied Nintendo when they released PS1 and the first Xbox copied Sony's PS2. The trick is to copy ideas and IMPROVE upon them. Judging from the fact that millions of people are willing to pay 50 bucks a year for an online service and that there are more people willing to play on XBL than PSN, its pretty evident that M$ has done pretty well SALESWISE AND QUALITYWISE. Find me an exclusive between the PS3 and 360, thats MORE PLAYED than Halo 3..thats right u can't.
That fat dude that sat at the computer and asked "confirmed or denied", looks alot like Aaron Greenberg with glasses. I don't think it was a coincidence! lol
haha wow. i wasn't serious. read the whole thing brotha man
Dead is always so quick to defend M$ lol
Nothing lasts forever aye? Including sharp sales spikes it seems. Never mind, nothing wrong with selling a greater number over a period of time.
the clue is in the word 'spike' my friend. if the same numbers are sustained it isn't a 'spike' it's an 'average'. after a spike the numbers decline... usually to a new average. that's the number you are looking for and it will become apparent in two more weeks.
Ok cliffbo, do you think that the ps3 can sell at the same level for a great amount of time? I'm not talking about a couple of months, I'm talking about month on month for at least a year?
the fuk? where were you when the ps3 was outselling 360 for a YEAR until the 360 was 199... hm?
Give me some evidence then.
jan and feb http://www.1up.com/do/newsS... Q2 WW http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Plus more too busy doing personal stuff but you get the idea...
This is it the last console gen for microsoft.
odd statement to make considering this gen has been way way way better for ms than last gen