Morning news magazine Mezamashi TV got a pre-Tokyo Game Show look at Project Natal. Watch Fuji TV announcer Yoko Shono play a game of Ricochet with Kudo Tsunoda and try the controller free racing demo Microsoft brought to E3.
I bet the japanese fell asleep during the show.
nah they just changed the channel
CORRECTION:Project FILL IS DOOMED IN THE Japanese Show.
like Ricochet and the original Burnout arcade racer. LMAO! We have Uncharted 2, xbots. What do you have? Answer: a ps eyetoy rip off.
Is that girl in your avatar the one who demoed Project Failtal? :P
wow, look at the lag between her movements and her avatar's movements. LOL @ 2:40 HAHAHA... look at her face @ 4:02. I think that sums up Natal nicely. I'm sorry... I'm all for innovation in gaming, and I think MS has done a lot of innovation with the xbox & 360, but this is sh*t.
that looked terrible. It almost seemed like they were trying to cover up how bad it really was. I cant believe this is the future. Say it isnt so.
1; rick roll music for the video would have been fitting as its a joke. 2; id say all ps3 gamers will approve this as it proves their point about how bad natal is!
And you all think the consumers they are aiming Natal at with these demos care or yet alone really KNOW or hell, even noticed this "lag"? The 'casual' consumers they are aiming at could care less about any of that stuff and wonder, "hmm, maybe its supposed to do that plus it looks fun". Anyway, that's Marketing for ya. Still got over a year till this thing releases and Microsoft is already hitting television worldwide marketing it. It'd be nice to see something new already but Greenburg already let people know it would be the same tech demos that have been shown since E3.
Looks kinda ridiculous. Nothing hardcore will come out of this. EDIT: After watching it again, you can clearly see lag between movements. Doesn't look any more innovative than the 2003 PS EyeToy if you ask me.
How humiliating that this is what Microsoft has been reduced to in the console market. That was just embrassing to see. I still remember back to the months before the Xbox launched and the talk of how Microsoft was just going to take over the console world. I guess this is what happens when Microsoft can't or won't afford to release new console hardware after losing 7 billion dollars on the the two Xbox consoles. Microsoft obviously can't compete with Sony on hardware and graphics. And Microsoft can't compete with Nintendo on the casual gaming side. They end up halfway in the middle with something that just looks awful and unfun.
Careful...that kind of open-minded opinion isn't welcome on this site.
They driving controlled like crap! hahah It was funny though when she hit the wall in the driving part she said the following... ”痛い！” ”痛くないけど。。。” Translation - It hurts!! Actually... it doesn't hurt, but..." She got immersed in it... despite it being really laggy, odd...
All I saw was her excitement for the technology and how much fun she is having. This seems to echo what almost everyone else that has tried this on video. They are just baffled, excited and all together have a great time. Of course the haters, that never tried it do the usual by HATING! Imagine, girls in bikine jumping around like that. That in itself is a great way to entertain you and others!!!
You would think that they could at least have a demo that works properly, fail.
In the most simplistic of their games, there's at least a half second lag in her movements, later on when they're competing up to 1 second. I really hope they get this down a lot. The car demo was horrible. You could tell she's having tons of trouble with it as she keeps turning way to the left because it's not responding well enough. Also, they're still having issues with the limbs. The hands in the ball game were getting kind of weird at times. C'mon Microsoft, get this stuff worked out!
Yeah cause the Wii was so succesful thanks to it's graphics power... Something called affordance. What will make Natal extra attractive to the casual crowd is the fact that it doesn't need a controller to work.
and that it's for CASUAL games? what? you dudes think you're going to be playing devil may cry on this or something?
"C'mon Microsoft, get this stuff worked out!" But what incentive does Microsoft have to come up with anything good? There is almost nothing else to look forward to in 2010 for the 360 due to the outdated hardware and tiny Microsoft first party. So this is being hyped as the 'greatest thing ever' by hardcore Xbox fans and Xbox fans in the gaming media because its all there is to hype. It's the same situation as Halo ODST. Microsoft had no incentive to come out with anything other than an overpriced expansion pack because they have hardcore Xbox fans and Xbox fans in the gaming media who will buy it and hand out joke 9/10 reviews respectively.
This lags too much and I don't see much potential without unnatural control added (Controller), and even if you used the 360 controller, you would no longer have control of your arms. "playstation shree-ga" "X-a-Box-a" ROFL!
what makes you think no controller will appeal to casuals? perhaps the casuals want a controller and think this high tech gimmick is too hardcore. It's a perfectly feasible outcome.
Her virtual hands move let she has virtual arthritis.
You really think "casual" gamers won't notice the lag and think it's cumbersome? I thought "casual games" were games anyone could play, not games that don't require any type of precision or timing. We're not talking about mentally handicapped people here. Could you imagine playing a multiplayer boxing game like wii sports has with that lag in it? The girl playing was visibly upset with how the car game controlled. I thought MS said this was going to be applied to "core" games and revolutionize gaming yada yada. If this is overpriced like the wifi adapter and pretty much any other 360 peripheral, I doubt people will want it just to play dodgeball or any other "casual" game that isn't affected by lag. @HolyOrangeCows "Her virtual hands move let she has virtual arthritis." That looks much worse than arthritis... it looks like she has 20 different joints between her elbow and wrist. EDIT: to those that disagreed, I'd love to hear some ideas of casual games that aren't affected by lag and don't need precision.
Uhh you guys go ahead and enjoy Natal. I'll pass. That lady's face had a look of frustration.
you're right, that racing game looked absolute bull using Natal.
first of all the fanboy that disagreed with me needs to take his fanboy glasses off he tried to hit the ball like 3 times and he couldn't he says "simply and easy" yet i see it lag and when she drives it makes her look like a drunk driver well i dont know and i dont wana know how fanboys are actually going to spin it and say that this is going to be great but all i see in here is a FLOP and why the hell my comment got deleted all i said that it lags and yes it DOSE lag
this is just a joke right? the only thing I can see this is good for is a quadriplegic who wants to play a video game.
They've been showing the SAME games and functionality for months now. And it lags HORRIBlY. Come on MS, do something. Show more games becuase at this stage, Natal is just like the Ps3 eye.
LOL fanboys are going to attack Natal like Halo? I guess when they sense a MSFT AAA selling a lot and pushing hardware they attack it to no end. http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blo...
The girl looked painfully frustrated and bored while trying to play the racing game.
oh, they were demoing natal.. did not even notice
I've said this before and I'll say it again: Project Failtal - a project that makes the game 'control' you instead of you controlling the game.
I predict many gifs on Neogaf from that video. Especially with the guy in the white shirt. LOL
Is that creepy man MS's rep?
That sh#t looks retarded at best. LOL. I can't help how stupid it looks.
There already advertising in japan ? Lol...the way Microsoft hyping it is as if it`s coming out this year .
Funny thing is, the PSW ( Playstation Wands ) looked like they were ready to be put on the market, more or less. It's been 4 months and M$ hasn't improved the camera? Their are games being showcased for SONY's you know, which means its working perfectly. That avatar looked crippled... look at lokiroo420's avatar. <---------- LOL "Hot Legs Award" BTW...Don't Japanese live in small houses? She was using the whole room for that game. I beg your pardon but my bedroom isn't that big. What about big people? ( no offense ) Can someone please tell me how a sports game can be played with this laggy camera? EDIT: Thanks for disagreeing and leaving no comment :) ( You prepared to throw your money down the drain? ) How can I play Golf with this? Tennis? Bowling? Baseball? If you can't play sport games with this camera, it will be a FLOP,nuff said. EDIT2: Thanks for agreeing hakis86, it will goes frustrations alot.
I agree, the function of the PS3 wands looks finished, and I've had many discussions where people who prefer Natal brag about how advanced the cam is with it's infra red yada yada... But this CLEARLY proves that Sony has been there, done that, moved on to camera + a controller for tracking and playing. Only a camera has it's limitations, and it seems that the programming isn't going as well as I hoped... who wants to play games like that with that much lag? My button is on Sony's wand, sorry Microsoft.
Even that cute girl looked like a retard because of Project Failtal.
...Gabe Newell is going to die of a Heart Attack doing that!!! ;-D + Watching that puts me off Gaming for Life!!! ;-D Thank GOD i got a PS3!!! ;-P (Yeah, Yeah, SONY are doing Motion Control but they are still giving me Normal 'AAA' Games to Play!!!)
No, Sony are giving us Fantastic 'AAA' games to play
i own both console so i'm not a fanboy but this looks like crap
at 10mph and only going straight....... i love just driving straight and going slow....... allows me to see the background scenery...
Off topic (kinda): Kudo is such a douche lol... Asian girl: "Ya Tai!" Kudo: "yeah sigh....very good....." And take those shades off
'douche' is the perfect word to describe the guy. Don't know why Microsoft can't see that the guy is doing more harm than good.
I think he has those shades on because of an eye problem he has. But does anyone know why his name is Kudo Tsunoda? Seems like he understands japanese, but is he japanese?
I thought the creepy MS's rep is going to rape the innocent girl.
rape her natal-style? :P
Who wants to see 2 goo like thing mingle with each other? Well may be the bots do haha.
I'm surprised he didn't show her what the bottom of his avatar's shoe looked like. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Does the fact that it's still in development mean nothing? I'm not saying it's great or even that it will be. All I'm saying is that it's not ready. If it was, they would have released it already.
the sonyfriend brigade always has to jump in and add their colorful commentary with anything 360 related in japan. let them have their fun. they endured a lot.
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They are all missing the point, she had a big smile on her face, so it must have been fun to play. This is what people will see when it launches, as it was with the Wii when that arrived. I am looking forward to see what developers will do with this.
^ the thing is it is fun when it comes to casual games that rely on little accuracy. Wii Sports for example is fun for the family because its games don't rely much on accurate input. You can swing your WiiMote in Wii Tennis and still hit the ball, maybe not to the direction you want, but the Mii goes the right direction for you. When you see the Sony wand trying to hit a tennis ball, it appears harder because it's 1:1 relying on user accuracy, where on Wii Tennis the Mii's avatar tennis racket "guides" it way towards where the ball will come - it just requires the player to swing. When you slowly approach to more hardcore games that rely on accuracy and precision, that is where "motion controls" aren't fun anymore. Ever try drifting in Wii NeedForSpeed carbon? It's horrible. Actually, driving a car itself is horrible using the Wii motion controls. Those "driving" games for kids like Cars are more successful on the Wii because the tracks are big open spaces and the game isn't as demanding as it is in NFS's case. Using a completely controller-less design such as the Natal, I can't picture an MLB game such as The Show using a camera for controlling. Can you really throw a curve ball using the camera and lead to a strike or would that lead to a ball? More or less I picture controller-less games to be for the casuals, and not for us typical gamers who expect to FPS with Natal and expect a headshot here and there while playing on Live.
"she had a big smile on her face" because it is a fundamental part of Japanese culture to be polite and smile even when you are faced with something that went this badly.
What had happen was... haha but The driving game is not ready to be shown to the public yet. That's what it comes down to, they probably don't have much to show other than the dodge ball and the closest thing Natal is to being integrated well into a game is Burnout, so they show it. BUT THE DRIVING RIGHT NOW LOOKS LIKE UTTER GARBAGE
Damn this is getting sad. They have no games to combat Sony so it's advertising an incomplete rushed motion control gimmick. Edit: By gimmick I mean IMO any motion control should include some handheld peripherals.
Its FULL BODY MOTION. You are the motion controller. WOW...Developers are going to have a VERY HARD time indeed designing a proper game. EDIT: Thanks for disagreeing and leaving no feedback :) You need buttons to play games. This will probably be rushed to counter the Wand's Launch. Well it looks like HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray all over again. The wands will be adopted more than NATAL ( by the devs ) You can't make games with NATAL. ( even if they try and reduce the lag )
Yea you need tactile response or at least haptic feedback when it comes to games, otherwise you have no idea how much pressure you're applying when you "move a limb", because at least with shoulder buttons you know exactly how hard to press down. I played with the EyeToy at ToysRus many years ago, and though I would say I looked like I was having fun and smiling like Yoko Shono, to the other customers in ToysRus, I probably looked really stupid swinging my arms. At least the Wii makes motion control sorta work without making the player look like an idiot clown.
...true, swinging just* your arms in mid-air can get very tiring quickly and I don't want to be tired when I'm playing games. You can't disagree with that. NATAL will be a waste of investing on. Where are the games ( not existing ), I haven't seen any. Just ritochet and painting? LOL, those are mini-games, crap and laggy. M$ haven't even showed off a FPS yet, which is what their fanbase adores. Just Burnout really, you know how many times she could have got taken down ( she was so slow )
microsoft already working the casual crowd with Natal~ this could prove successful in the future! still won't buy it though.
Still all laggy? Hope they fix that, because without 1:1 I think it will fail.
this looked so embarrassing, great watch XDDD i really wonder what was that ultra secret tech he was hiding? we already know they have a hugely overhyped, expensive and buggy eyetoy. BWAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA!
another failed attempt to gained the ms attention in Japan..(j-rpgs failed of ms in japan) Japanese people are smart and are not will buy this crap. fact.
the ricochet game looks like fun, far mor enjoyable then arobics classes or something similar i may pickit up for the ecercise aspect, but even at this stage in the dev process it should be making 'contact' more acuretly
What 'BAM' in Japanease... Seriously though, litrally everyone in Japan has a Wii they are going to look at Ricochet like they looks at PONG. Waw Burnout... something that's better with a controller.
women and Asians are bad drivers so....
Not sure if you guys picked it up, but when she was steering to the right, the video of Burnout was moving to the left. When she steered to the left, it went to the right. Either that's some very bad input lag or the camera isn't reading her correctly. Maybe she's not really a bad female asian driver afterall..... lol