Reggie Fils-Aime, President and COO of Nintendo of America, believes that it's a mistake to say that hardcore gamers have been ignored.
You would think that Nintendo of all companies would always support the core gamers, but it doesn't seem like it. There's nothing wrong with trying to appeal the casual crowd, Sony did it, and MS is doing it. With the PS2, yes there were a lot of casual titles, but it never made an impact on hardcore titles such as God of War.
Most people don't bother to look for the Wii games that stand upon their own, with theiir own individualism.
The Fact is that Nintendo did not expect to have this much impact on the casual crowd. Neither did anyone else. It was also the point of view of the audience on the Wii when it was announced. It was laughed at and it would never sell they said. Things went differently and the dislike kept hanging. Developers kept sh/tting out ps2 ports, so "hardcore" gamers had little to no interest in them, then games like carnival-games sold well and developers thought: lets case in on that. While many developers kept trying to make better or more "hardcore" games they failed because of the fact that most people were pissed off due the Ps2 ports or games with no effort put into them. Now Everyone is saying Nintendo forgot about the "hardcore", honestly i havnt seen them change since the NES( and that is an annoyance really) . People are just expecting to much from Nintendo these days since its been 2 generations long that on their consoles(GCN/n64) only their software did best. Now Nintendo made huge impact on the "casual" gamers, the contrast seems to be that Nintendo doesn't care for "hardcore" gamers. Funny thing is the Casual gamer has always been the majority. Its just the Way Nintendo-wii started off. Its just now that more "quality" games are developed. And fanboys who call themselves "hardcore" and cry that all Wii games suck.
Reggie wasn't crying when the wii was flying off the shelves. Now all of a sudden they want their best friend back? ...
" Now all of a sudden they want their best friend back? " hahah what best friends? O you refer to the hardcore crowd that called them "kiddy" in the n64/gcn days and left them on the sideway. Ah yes that makes sense.
i consider pikmin game a "core" franchise. some people here though would call it kiddy, and that's the issue here.
I already sold my Wii, lost interest about a year ago. The only game I was really exited for was Mario Kart and that was mediocre at best.
Everthing that comes out of Reggie's mouth is PR speak. It's also in direct contradiction with what Iwata says about Nintendo's over-arching strategy, and whom they are targeting at the moment. ...besides... Super Mario Brothers? Yes, I'm sort of excited about that game, too, but that's NOSTALGIA fueling my interest, and nothing else. As a gamer, I'm ashamed that Nintendo is re-cycling an almost 30-year-old game and pretending like it's doing the gamers a favor.
I'm a "hardcore" gamer and I never called Nintendo kiddy in the N64 days nor do I believe many hardcore gamers did. You gotta exclude fanboys because they'll be fanboys and thus can't be taken seriously. Mario 64 blew my effing mind. I would ride my bike from Cambria Heights to Valley Stream in order to play the game at ToysRUs. When I finally got it I just remember being amazed at not only the innovative gameply but the game's graphics. Each Nintendo system was a marked improvement over the previous model in terms of raw power. SNES, N64, and the Gamecube. I've owned every Nintendo console made up until the Wii. Why didn't I get it? Because I didn't see that jump. I didn't see the progression. What I saw was a company releasing old tech with a spin in the hopes of capitalizing on a different demographic. In short, it felt like Nintendo was telling me it's been a nice run, but we're looking to date other people. And there was Sony and MS waiting for me with open arms with Killzone, Gears, etc. Graphics aren't everything. If you want to sell a system that's not exactly cutting edge then fine. It's when you price that system at something higher than its fair market value that I can't help but be insulted.
orakga -- The 2D platformer is certainly an old genre, but so what? A good game is a good game. Wolfenstein 3D came out in 1992, and Doom came out in 1993. It's a 17-year old genre that has been constantly recycled, especially for this console gen and the last. I can't say I'm "ashamed" that so many of these games exist and that so many are so derivative of previous titles. People like them. If that floats their boat, more power to 'em. Lifendz -- In this thread, I think we came up with a list of 14 or so core first party Nintendo games to be released so far, or one about every two-and-a-half months. That's a pretty brisk pace. I don't know if it tops Sony or Microsoft, but that's not bad. There are certainly more good third party efforts on the 360 and PS3, but I can't blame Nintendo for bad third-party shovelware.
"As a gamer, I'm ashamed that Nintendo is re-cycling an almost 30-year-old game and pretending like it's doing the gamers a favor." Shees some people take this gamer thing way to serious. Even if they recycle, why should Nintendo grow with you while there are thousands of new young gamers joining the fray? Im glad Nintendo still makes the marios and the zeldas, and not for nostalgia reasons but because they are...actually good games.
Yes, Sidar, the're mainly good games(SSBB was awfully killed off online and the SSE mode was pants ansd MKWii was cack but mainly the first aprty stuff has been good with the odd SMG/MP3 gem)BUT I do blame Nintendo for not supporting the better third party games and by doing so making the crap more attractive to devs. The Wii with games like Madworld or Lost Winds was crying out for demos-loads of good third party games have flounered because they don't have them. Ninty have ignored third party devs for ages now and if they want to keep their new gamers(who will mature in their tastes I imagine)they'll have to change IMO. Yuo know I like my Wii and nad bery high hopes for this years third party line up but it just failed to get going in my eyes and many others who still hoped for better. GG4 not appearing(due to Ninty themselves) in the west, Fragile yet to land here(and seemingly underwhelming anyway), DC being ropey and misunderstood, the Sega trio being either below par or ignored by the vast majority of Wii gamers(again demos, demos, demos). The line up that looked to have lots for "core" gamers has failed to ignite as the newer gamers won't bite til they know what a game's like(hence Mario, who they know, always selling)and the danger is they'll tire of gaming entirely after being bored by the crap ports and shovelware if Nintendo don't push them towards more fulfilling games. On the other hand they may move on to PS360, who knows, as the demos are there for new games and experiences on those consoles. EA and DS Extraction will suffer the same fate as most mature 3rd party Wii games if there's no demo, Muramasa is doomed, imo, no matter how great it is and these games on PS360 would be supported better and pushed more and have a better chance of getting to core and new gamer alike. Ninty have a great position but their continued difficulties with games they don't make for their console is worrying. Personally, however, the worst thing is how many of the games I looked forward to this time last year have either failed to show, desappointed or sold like poo flavour crisps. First party software alone cannot keep Ninty going forever and if the new market tires of either games or the Wii what have Nintendo hot to tempt them back and keep them both gaming AND doing it on a Nintendo platform? Honestly I'd say that the lack of demos and too few trailers on the Wii and Shopping channel hampers the chances of Ninty holding their position and along with the half assed storae solution go a long way to cutting off the options they have for their next move. Reggie, BTW, knows nothing and still insists that AC is "hardcore" when it just isn't-S&P2 is , however, and to a point Ninty have given some good "core" experiences, ut it's too little without being augmented by the third party games. Will the next two HVS/Sega games be pushed better by Nintendo? IDK but doubt it and these are the exact people who shopuld get support as they'll be the kinmd of games that newer gamers can use to widen tastes but they won't if they're unknown to them at release. I don't want Ninty to fail;(or MS or Sony)I just want them to gow up themselves and get out of their habit(which they had years back and still do today) of blowing it when they're on top-not since SNES hs there been real understanding of the outside studio from Ninty and it's a big problem for them, imo.
What the heck is reggie smoking these days? Nintendo is pure casual, nothing more.
theres too many game on nintendo i want!!!! damm wish i have lots of cash to throw out
Lets see...Ninteno has made... -- Zelda: Twilight Princess -- Super Mario Galaxy -- Metroid Prime 3 (and now the Prime Trilogy) -- Super Smash Bros. Brawl -- PunchOut -- Paper Mario -- Two Wario games, including one very nice 2D platformer -- Mario Kart -- Two Excite racers -- Battalion Wars 2 ...and people say they haven't made core games? They'll also have Galaxy 2, Other M, the next Zelda, NSMB and whatever Retro is working on. No, Nintendo hasn't stopped making core games. Period.
First of all, for nintendo, Mario is a core game. Maybe not Hardcore in the traditional sense of a gamer, but it is a core game. Nintendo's software has done well on the Wii, just like it's past systems. On the other hand, third party developers haven't really made strides in making many decent, or even half-way decent, games for the Wii in comparison with the 360 and PS3.
It's not that Nintendo has stopped making such games, its just that they are putting out too few of them. Hardcore gamers' appetites for such games are voracious. I just finished Batman AA, but already I'm looking forward to the next big thing around the corner. If I don't get my fix, well, I will feel ignored! Hardcore gamers are not going to sit with one game and replay it ad nauseum for the whole year. Let's put it this way. You listed 13 hardcore games. Let's assume they are all of great quality, and that any hardcore gamer would want every single game on that list (which already is pushing it): - Wii has been available since Dec 06 - That's 33 months since release - That's 33/13 = about 2.5 months in between every must-have hardcore game. Granted, there are more games than the 13 you listed that are hardcore, like No More Heroes or Madworld. But those are non-Nintendo games. Conclusion --> Nintendo CAN DO MORE to appease its hardcore fans.
You do realize 50% of your life is based off the Mario franchise right? And they're really wondering why they've lost "core gamers"?
" Maybe not Hardcore in the traditional sense of a gamer" Lovely, another definition of the "traditional sense" You know in the golden age there were only "few" games that were rated 18+ and whatever. Mario being kiddy or whatever has NOTHING to do with a game being hardcore. So wouldnt that make the traditional sense be: The games are not "hardcore", but the time and effort put into a game defines how "hardcore" [YOU] are. A traditional gamer would play any game as long they find them enjoyable. They DO NOT attach "hardcore" tags on to everything so it makes them feel "special".
Madis007 -- Hopefully you're just being ironic, as that's a pretty lame attempt at trolling. Velcry -- I suppose it depends on the game and the gamer. I spent 70 hours on Twilight Princess, and that was over a few months. OTOH, I barely played Brawl. Can Big N do more? A first party releasing core franchises every two and a half months is a pretty brisk pace. Are Sony and Microsoft matching that? evrfighter -- Actually, Mario Galaxy is only the second Mario game I've completely beaten, so you're talking out of your rear end. If "core gamers" exclusively play the types of games Madis007 listed, then that is why Nintendo lost core gamers. But I don't consider FPS or sandbox games any more "core" than a good platformer. Blood and swearing alone don't make a game. Bioshock is my favorite FPS this gen because of its art direction and plot, not because of any gore. ...and I'd like to see some of the "core" FPS fan boys on here try their hand at Mega Man 9. "Hardcore" used to refer to difficulty, too. Then again, maybe I'm just old fashioned. sidar -- It's pretty funny, isn't it? The more games I play, the less "core" and "casual" mean to me. Zelda doesn't feature bucket loads of blood. There is no swearing to be found. The games take dozens of hours to complete, and double that if you want to really explore the overworld. By some people's definition, it isn't "core."
Velcry keep in mind that Nintendo also supports the DS(to a much larger extent than Sony has supported the PSP). Take into account all the first party DS games that have been released and then see what rate they're released at. Also Nintendo have released more than just what he listed. He missed out Fire Emblem for one, which is pretty much the definition of core. I'd like to see some "core" gamers complete Fire Emblem on hard mode and keep all units alive(and get all available units) unless the plot requires it or if you need to get rid of them to recruit someone new.
A look at Meta critic shows over 100 Wii titles rated 75 or higher by the gaming media. There is no ignoring the fact that many reviewers simply don't like the Wii and unjustly low ball it's scores in accordance with that bias. As an example; several sites whose scores are included in these averages took points away from the Conduit for having bad controls. ??? With this in mind, you have to figure that if a game still manages an aggregate score of 75 in this anti-Wii climate, it must have something going for it. To further illustrate this bias the list even shows some excellent games below that threshold, SSX Blur, Medal of Honor Heroes 2, Excite Truck and the Conduit just to name a few... I don't care what type of gamer you consider yourself... If you can't find a decent collection of games to keep you entertained within this extremely diverse list; it's a personal shortcoming... not Nintendo's.
what CAN they do? they have ALWAYS appealed to a younger crowd since the beginning. aside from the usual more mature fare out of zelda/metroid titles, nintendo hasn't really left their main staple of series for all ages. it's not really nintendo's fault that 3rd party companies are releasing trash on their console. if nintendo makes a hostile environment towards these companies to release more hardcore titles, then they would potentially burn bridges with the 3rd parties. and lets be honest, us hardcore gamers complain, but the casual market is booming and bringing in the cash. obviously something is appealing to the casual market. they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
You're absolutely right there. The Gamecube and N64 were referred to as the Kiddie consoles as well and Nintendo trie do combat that image and it got them nowhere(except last place). We're still getting the Core games off them and they're actually trying to make them more "mature"(just look at Other M, Sin and Punishment and Monado). You're also right about the third parties putting out the shovelware. Nintendo is only just regaining third party support and they can't afford to lose it now. Also the last time they actually limited what publishers could release they got took to court and got in lots of trouble.
"Nintendo is only just regaining third party support and they can't afford to lose it now." Nintendo can afford anything at this point. It's the best-selling console of this generation... Though I can't figure out why.
they have no clue, and only want blood and guts. Just read some of these comments on this thread alone or any "nintendo related" thread. Ignorance of the fanboys is truly sad. I am glad that they are kicking the crap outta the HD consoles because that means "traditional" gamers are still around and ticking. From reading alot of the comments on N4G, it seems that alot of gamers started out during the PS2 era, and have a sick sense of entitlement. *Oh well*
I think you're right. There seems to be a good chunk of people on here who started playing games last gen, so their idea of "core" is shaped by the preponderance of FPS and sandbox games from a few years ago. That's a point of view I understand, but I certainly don't agree with it.
you hit the nail again bubble
He starts to sound like a democrat. You know, those kind of people that act like things are going better, while they dont.
Republicans suck. :)
should lay off fox news for a while...
Were you at the 50k 70k rally that was falsely blown up to a million plus? If you were, did you know that Freedomworks main sponsors are HEALTHCARE COMPANIES??? Of course not, those pesky FACTS will never get in the way of the sheep will they?
Reggie should really shut up. His comments are becoming more and more irritating. Compare the number of core titles released for the Wii with that of ANY other major console in the history of gaming and you'll realize why many core gamers feel ignored. The only "core games" they have are the n'th iteration of their usual obsolete franchises. Moreover their promotion and marketing is 99% aimed at casuals. It's obvious that third parties aren't really hot on releasing core games for the wii. It ain't all bad though, at least we get most core games with better graphics on technologically more advanced consoles instead of seeing them downgraded to fit the wii.
"Compare the number of core titles released for the Wii with that of ANY other major console in the history of gaming and you'll realize why many core gamers feel ignored. " Ironic, Cause if you want something you need to support it. Of course "core"gamers feel ignored, but they also ignored the "core" games. Makes sense doesn't it?
There is plenty of core games on the wii its jut the fact that none of you guys are looking and no i don't feel ignored and i only own a wii and a pc by the way
Oh sure, now it's our fault that Nintendo's creativity can't go beyond putting some motion sensing in a controller and they'd rather shoot themselves in the face than actually... you know... creating a new core franchise? Is it our fault that basically ALL their promotion is aimed towards casual gamers and non gamers? Aren't you a little confused? Nintendo is the developer, we're the customers. It's their responsibility to create products and do the marketing, not ours to fall into their hands and swoon at whatever they do just because it has an N on it. MegaPowa: honestly, I pity you for that. "Plenty" is a VERY generic number, and is the fanboy term for "there's less than anywhere else, but we're fanboys and we need to defend the brand!". And that's exactly what the situation is. The Wii has much less core games than any other console and much more shovelware.
Nintendo have already made Disaster: Day of Crisis, Endless Ocean, Captain Rainbow, Another Code(originally on the DS) this gen upcoming they have Monado, Line Attack Heroes, Kensax, Cosmic Walker, Dynamic Slash and Span Smasher. So what's that about no new IPs?
Please spoony, I understand that you need to defend nintendo at every step, but most of those are nothing more than extremely low quality second party sovelware. We're talking about AAA titles here. Zero. Again, it's not all bad though, that way the actual third party AAA titles won't get downgraded to fit the wii, and those of us that have multiple consoles can enjoy them with decent graphics. This doesn't change the fact that reggie should stop whining.
Abriael -- Compare the number of core first party titles Nintendo has released (I typed out 13; Spoony then reminded me of Fire Emblem, which puts the list at 14) to how many Sony and Microsoft have released. And new "core franchises"? Halo, Gran Turismo, God of War, Project Gotham, Killzone, Ratchet and Clank, Forza, etc. aren't new, as all of the titles currently released are SEQUELS. Same for third party games like Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, Resident Evil, Soulcaliber, Madden, Need For Speed, Devil May Cry, Burnout, Elder Scrolls, Fight Night, etc. Yet you single out Nintendo? Usually, Nintendo is very conservative even releasing core franchises. Look at the amount of time between some of the Zelda and Metroid titles. There were 8 full years between Super Metroid and Prime!
You forget titles like Infamous, and there are many others that while they are sequels they come from young franchises that started this generation or during the end of the previous generation. When was the last time Nintendo created a new AAA franchise? World War 1? Promotion is also a big difference. At least Sony and Microsoft promote towards core gamers, bringing third party developers to actually develop lots of core games for their consoles. Nintendo promotes only towards casuals, with the obvious effect that while their first party core offering is already lacking, the third party one is even more lacking. Who do you think bears the responsibility for this? For sure not Sony, Microsoft or the Customers (and not even third parties, why should they support a brand that doesn't support them?). It's only nintendo that decides at whom to target their marketing. They ignore core gamers, and shouldn't complain if core gamers ignore them. Ity's obvious to single them out. Not only they gave us an underpowered console (and processing power IS a factor for most core gamers), they didn't produce a new core franchise in several years, they produce very few core titles, and they don't support core gaming with their marketing. If you can't see a trend here, you must be blind.
"Oh sure, now it's our fault that Nintendo's creativity can't go beyond putting some motion sensing in a controller " Yes thats why Sony and Ms are doing the same thing. Point being you are just hating for the sake of hating. "they didn't produce a new core franchise in several years, they produce very few core titles, and they don't support core gaming with their marketing. If you can't see a trend here, you must be blind." They do, they just expect the "hardcore" crowd to look for the titles, because thats what they do, where the casual gamer has little to no clue where to look for. You hear about new games all day on N4G, so why should Nintendo make a "hardcore" adver just for you? "You forget titles like Infamous, and there are many others that while they are sequels they come from young franchises that started this generation or during the end of the previous generation." AAAA splendid, Third party games do matter on the other console, but Not on Nintendo's side...Cause everything that goes on the Wii is Nintendo's fault. Its also the fault of people like you who has been bashing the system, not supporting the good games. If "core" games did great on the Wii you would have seen sh/tloads more. And funny how you claim there are no AAA games on the Wii...if thats true, a non-aaa game has one of the highest ratings this gen. Soooo that means all the tripple AAA games are shyte?
Abriael -- You listed one additional franchise. That's it. And a new franchise doesn't necessarily mean it's a new type of game. Infamous is a sandbox game; all sandbox games now owe their existence to GTA3, which in turn, owed its existence to Ocarina of Time. A new FPS is still an FPS; they all have their DNA from Wolfenstein and Doom. A new racing game is still a racing game; mostly gaming DNA from the early 90's -- NFS, Ridge Racer, Virtua Racing, etc. And platformers...well, you know. Sorry, a franchise being a few years old doesn't mean it isn't derivative. What is more creative? Copying from racing sims from the early 90's and giving them better graphics, or turning a platform/action game into an FPS, which is what Metroid did? When was the last time Sony or Microsoft invented a genre of gaming? (If you enjoy 3D gaming at all, Mario 64 and OoT are the blueprints.) You'd be blind to think Nintendo DOESN'T churn out its core franchises. 14 have been listed in this thread. Can you name 14 first-party Sony or Microsoft games?
C'mon, why is this just now sinking in to many people? The Plumber RE-RELEASED a GameCube at nearly 3x's the cost with just a pretty white dress and a wagglewaggle controller. It was pathetic then and it is pathetic now. It is nice to see that the veil is being lifted off of most peoples heads, I just wish it did not take this long.
super metroid to prime was 8year because gunpei yokoi(creator of metroid kid icarus, gameboy, wonderswan) died by a car accident
You do not understand, A hardcore Nintendo gamer doesn't neccesarily crave blood and guts. It means they get excited about the next Pikmin game or Kirby game, they've been into gaming for a while. A casual Nintendo player is someone who's first gaming system is probably a Wii they love Wii fit or probably never even ejected the tech demo out of the disc drive! I think what Nintendo has been trying to do w/ some varying degrees of success is turn the casual gamer into the hardcore gamer. Maybe. P.S. Dude Mario is the hardest of the Hard Core for Nintendo core players.
and a third party isn't seeming to be going anywhere either-- I'm very glad that videogames are not as in a sorry state as our modern political scene!
My answer: Metroid Prime Trilogy.
From a direct game development standpoint, no they haven't ignored the core audience, though they have at times failed to fully satisfy. From a business model standpoint yes they have seen to it that the core gamer is greatly ignored in that dozens of great 3rd party games will never be available to Wii only gamers since the hardware is so weak in a relative sense. Not everyone can afford multiple consoles. And not everyone believes in buying multiple consoles. Some expect their choice to meet all of their needs. The reality of this is that many of the most die hard Nintendo gamers have cause to regret their choice. Or at the least feel very frustrated at their plight, since in spite of the many great offerings on Wii, they are missing out on many gaming experiences that take things to the next level.
Has put out some of their best efforts in years. Quality comparable to what was seen during the N64 era. The blame lies with third parties who continue to nickel and dime Wii owners with spin offs and lazy ports.
more like its a mistake to ignore core gamers
tied to Metroid, Mario, or Zelda? anyone? *crickets* i'm 30 years old. i've been playing Mario, Metroid, and Zelda since they first appeared on the NES in the 80's. i'd like something NEW. no, it doesn't have to be blood, guts, tits, and ass, that retarded "argument" that a Nintendo fanboy throws out when people claim they want more core games from Nintendo is silly. i want Nintendo to take the time to put their creativity into a new franchise, even if it's geared towards a broader audience, that has the qualities that made Mario, Metroid, and Zelda the classics that they are. i mean, the feeling of discovery and newness every time i play a Mario, Metroid, and Zelda game are GONE now. it feels like i'm playing the same game i've played when i was 6 years old, with a new coat of graphical paint. Zelda has been the same exact game in 3D as it's been in 2D: Link traverses an expansive world, exploring dungeons, gaining new weapons, and defeating monsters. the move to 3D did just that; move the series to 3D, but the gameplay was still the same. Ocarina of Time was simply a 3D version of the gameplay mechanics in Link to the Past, with a few additional features (like the Ocarina, of course). Metroid Prime was a big departure from the Metroid we know and love, and that worked out great. and while i'm excited about Other M, i'd love to explore a new world, with a new cast of classic, memorable characters. i mean, 30 years is a long time to play with these guys, and while i never think those series should go away, i think Nintendo needs to buff up it's stable. over half of the games some of you guys have listed as examples Nintendo's "commitment" to the core gamer are Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games. i've personally grown out of those franchises, so the announcement of a new one, while ringing my nostalgia bell, does nothing to reassure me that Nintendo is doing more than trying to win over my mother with the rest of their console's software offerings. it's not unreasonable to want to see something without Mario, Link, or Samus stamped on it. for example, Sony has created a stable of classic characters and franchises ranging from Jak, Ratchet, Sly Cooper, Gabe Logan, Kratos, etc, in all genres, catering to ALL AGES, and this generation they've added to the stable with characters like Nathan Drake, Cole McGrath, Sackboy (who Nintendo TURNED DOWN when Media Molecule was shopping LBP around), and even Nariko (who was criminally treated back in 2007, when the wave of PS3 hate was too strong to admit that Heavenly Sword was a great game). they are continually adding to the stable, even while giving us more games in classic series (like Ratchet and God of War). no one is calling for Nintendo to abandon the characters and franchises that make them Nintendo, only EXPAND upon that roster with some new blood.
well i dont know about you guys but i love wii fit. iiiimmm ooonn iiittt riiighhttt nooowwww!
using the word crickets does not suddenly make punchout, fire emblem, battallion wars ect suddenly not exist. you say you want nintendo to make a newe franchise, even if it caters to a broader audience. how about wii sport resort? the wii sport franchise is new on many levels, and by no means is it casual crap. the mini game set up gives it variety and i was surprised how popular it was with my HD gmaing friends. sword fighting was the fvaourite but they also loved archery, basketball and the flying game. the stamps have clearly been put in to try and attract the more experienced gamer if thats not your style then maybe disaster day of crisis if your in europe, or endless ocean if your in the USA. i can also give you some advice that i found helpful, try out frnachises that havnt looked into before. the wii was the first time i experienced the battalion wars and fire emblem franchises. even though they arnt new IP they were new to me. judging your complaints about only mario metroid and zelda id say there are pleanty of nintendo frnachises to try out. as to why sony and MS are producing more new IP, its becasue its easier for them. for onr thing Sonys first party is much much bigger than nintendos. also theve only had 3 platforms, nintendo has had 8, and on every one (except the first of course) nintnedo fans have demanded their beloved franchises. im not saying nintendo shouldnt do more new IP im just saying theve done more than you seem to think. the bought monolith soft and have set up project sora for the sole purpose of creating new franchises and they showed a ton of new IP at october last year. if you want some new IP on nintendo consoles then the future looks good
they are ignoring them, because all there is mostly is shi** games. It's nothing like the nes days where you got a wide selection of good games to choose from, but now they rather make exercise games over everything else....what the hell. "can any of you guys mention a Nintendo game that IS NOT tied to Metroid, Mario, or Zelda?" you area real idiot id rather have metroid any day of the week if possible, but no we haven't got one since the gba days....does anyone see a problem with this? A real mario sequel would be nice, but zelda looks to be doomed they rather make it kiddy then make a real game like the sens version.....trains with link?? really nintendo wtf.
Reggie is Nintendo's version of Greenburg. He's not going to say "Yes, we've completely ignored the core gamer because TEH CASUALS PRINT OUR MONEYS!!1" because that wouldn't be profitable. Honestly, I've lost interest in the Wii too. I really only bother with it for Resident Evil 4, Metroid, and the light-gun games. Otherwise, it's all PS3 and 360. Super Mario Galaxy - Decent game, but WAY too easy. Super Paper Mario - It sucked. The Conduit - It really sucked. Twilight Princess - Getting tired of Zelda Metroid Prime 3/Trilogy - Excellent Brawl - Would be a lot better without tierlists and people crying "OMG ITEMS R SO CHEAP!!1" Also, may I ask where the hell F-Zero Wii is?
I'm not one of those gamers ignoring the Wii for lack of games, core or otherwise, nor do I lack the finances to buy one. The reason I'm not going to get a Wii any time if ever this gen, is because of the fact I have enough games to play on my PS3, PSP and NDS lite. Secondly, I just don't have the time to play that many games these days, due to a fulltime job and being quite busy on the social scene with friends and family on my days off. Nintendo could probably care less about worrying over the so-called core market, considering how much dough they've been rolling in since day 1 on the market. If there's a Wii game I want to play, I'll just rent or buy it for my nieces to play with me =). I have to agree with "TruthbeTold", some of us gamers just don't have the time/money for multiple game systems. Games aren't exactly cheap at $60 for most new games. I also agree with the comments some gamers regretting a Wii purchase. Several of my friends who were once huge Nintendo fans now have PS3's, while their Wii's only get's dusted off to play Super Smash Bros Brawl for the Wii. At the very least though, Nintendo still has me in their grasp when it comes to handhelds =).
i like nintendo but i did not buy a wii this gen since it is not a next gen machine at all, it's just a repackaged gamecube with a diffent control system hopefully nintendo will create a true next gen console next time if they do i will most likely buy one but until then i will not.
i dont know what yall talking about i had the wii before all other console this gen and it worth it. my bro got a ps3 but i hardly play that except for cod:waw but i play my wii like crazy. to me wii have lots of games not on other console. i never played sport game much til on my wii like golf, boxing. also theres are lots of games on gc that i bet many overlook. i have like over 15 wii games n 20 gc games yet i dont have the money to buy more
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