With the recent price-cut and introduction of the Slim, the PS3 has been enjoying a resurgence in sales. Is this just a blip? Or can the PS3 finally reclaim its place at the top of the charts and win the console war, once and for all?
ps3 already won the console war
M$ Puts shipped consoles like little girls, I would love for them to actually put Sold. So we see how long it will take for Sony to take them out.
ya keep it down in here
Nintendo Wii and PS3. Period. 360 is a no issue. It never was an issue. RROD alone made sure of that. But RROD aside, the system lacked everything on every front (like KNOWN and LOVED FRANCHISES) to compete with Sony PS3. And PS3 will win this war because soon after the Wii's release, it was clear they went the way of the casuals instead of going head on against Sony PS3. FOR PS3!!!! Awesome picture.
Ps3 and xbox 360 would have to sell over 20 million consoles to get towards the wii . It seems unlikely for both but weirder things have happen this generation .
imo PS3 has more chances as it has more worldwide appeal than the xbox brand.
Thats true . last gen has many people who had a ps2 .Im pretty sure xbox 360 has people who had a ps2 as well . But the problem here is you have to think what nintendo will do . Imagine if sony did get close to the wii . Nintendo would bring out the wii hd next . And Nintendo has a lot of mindshare so obviously wii owners will go hd . Nintendo is actually pretty smart .
no kionic, ur pretty smart u seem to be, if not the last, true xbox 360 fan without ever gettin out of line wit ur comments. so kionic, i salute you. ppl like u makes me wanna go out and buy a 360, just to possibly play odst or crackdown 2 wit. see u soon
That's the thing. Who thought the Wii could pull off 50 million consoles in 2 1/2 years? If they could do it, then why can't another console do it as well? Theoretically, a Natal enabled, cheap 360 might be able to do it, or a $299 PS3 Slim could just as easily do it. Now, how likely is that to happen, I don't know - but if you had asked me how likely it was that the Wii could have moved 50 million consoles in 3 years, 3 years ago I would have told you you were crazy.
Nintendo was the smartest out of its competitors . Launching a console centered towards new players aka casual players . And it had the perfect price tag. $249.99 Put that together with there mindshare,old lovable characters,(Mario,zelda,etc),m otion controls, and a Huge Marketing campaign ... They already knew how there success would be .
yep no one can deny That nintendo has played their cards very well this gen.
No denying that Nintendo was very smart at the start of this gen and their hardware sales show that, but I don't think they're in the position that they want to be right now. I'm sure they make pretty good profit off their hardware sales but really all the money is in software and the Wii's overall software sales aren't spectacular.
Sure, they have a few smash hit games like Wii Fit but in the grand scheme of things they're software sales are not very good. Casuals tend to buy only a couple of games and just play those games, and most of the time they get bored of that one or two games they have and never touch their system again. The Wii isn't exactly in the most healthy state atm, and Nintendo needs to do something to spark their overall software sales up.
new colours and a price drop will do the Trick :)
PS3 has won this gen for gamers. CONSTANT AAA exclusives that push the boundaries of console games and innovate to no end. PS3 is the gamer's console.
LOL....PS3 is so far behind both consoles its going to take two lifetime just to catch up. However, droids will say something different.
keep it down in here your neighbors in the GZ are tryna have a sensible discussion smh
Less than 7 million is "So far behind"? Whoa.
while people are only paying attention to the ps3 what about the ps2 that is still selling. that is what the 360 cant seem to out do. the ps3 is gonna sell far beyond the 360 and far into the ps4 life cycle. their is no war, the only thing that is waring in M$ trying to get as much money as they can from gamers. ps3 vrs 360 is a joke. m$ game market doesnt even match Sony's at all and its funny 360 fans think so. what has been proven is that 4 consoles can share the market at the same time. overall people buy sony products vrs M$ 3 to 1.all the consle war mean is what games are going to be on what system and unless your blind you can see that sony is winning this war. some games are still good on the 360 but they are remakes of games that came out before on the console. look for gamers the ps3 is the best thing out their . for developers the wii, ps2, handhelds and the 360 are the best things out their. i say that because all of those systems their isn't this standard that the ps3 exclusives have set. games like mgs 4 killzone 2 uncharted 2 all these games have set the bar really high. so when fans see that a game will rival one of these they buy the game.but when 3rd parties make a game and its not in the same ball park and actually inferior on the ps3 06-08 it makes you think that all systems besides the ps3 are getting their systems pushed to the max and the ps3 is getting the well their is alot more that we could do with this game lets put it out equal to the 360 so that we make the extra buck.
Anyway, I think it's completely possible, problem is the xbox360 had a huge headstart. I find it funny how some of you always come up with that 7 million number BS, when that's nothing to brag about. Last time I checked geting a headstart in a race is nothing to brag about.
Did it start in 1994 when the Playstation started building marketshare or when the Xbox 360 launched in 2005? The Playstation brand has sold close to 300 million consoles worldwide breaking just about every record on the way. Could anyone actually be able to get a headstart on something like this?
ps3 well never win the console war never ever ever .
While MS still doesn't have a console that has sold as many units as the PS2, or close to it.
. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Edit @below Have you forgotten that Sony made half million in the first week of slim/price cut I don't see it that hard to catch up to MS Xbox 360 and you never know if Sony is going to do another price of $100 in two years and $199 ps3 is a steal and natal is just a addon and we don't know the price to it yet and if they are going to launch it with natal what about the Xbox 360 users with a xbox 360 already how much is natal going to cost $75 to $100 casuals players can't afford that
But the fact with over 7 million with the 360 and 30 million behind the Wii, Sony has some serious catching up to do. I do see the gap closing between the 360 & PS3 next year. Sony new launch this year brought life back to the PS3. Now MS will do the same with Natal next year.
No never will happen thats the sad truth......actually its not sad its funny so everyone point at the ps3 fans and laugh.
we'll have to see, because sony will be lasting 10yrs and if microsoft drop out in those 10yrs (because of outdated hardware) then yh sony win :)
everyone wants a ps3 and by next year, the ps3 will of out sold the 360
Can the PS3 win the console war? Hell yes. Can the failbox survive the console war without paying developers for exclusive content? Absolutely No.
It depends how long the consoles last. The ps3 will be around long after the wii and 360 for sure but long enough after to pass the wii sales? that remains to be seen. It's a possibly since the playstation brand is very popular. 360 has had it's best time already only because the ps3 was too expensive. Now that competition is on even footing the 360 will slowly fade into the background.
no, but PS3 is a strong contender for no.2...the Wii is now really ahead and it doesnt look like the PS3 will beat it!
I can see the point that you are trying to make regarding your argument about the Wii. However, I think that you are not looking at this big picture entirely as a whole. I'll address Microsoft real quick because I don't think that they are much of a factor in remaining ahead of the PS3. I was expecting a new console announcement from Microsoft at this years E3; instead, Natal was announced. What Natal may 'possibly' do is provide the 360 with longer legs. If the software and support for Natal can be such an impact that casual gamers, core gamers, AND developers see it and CONTINUOUSLY support Natal then Microsoft will buy themselves more time on the market which will inturn provide a longer sell life. Now lets focus on the Wii. Nintendo stormed out of the gates selling a massive amount of hardware within 3 years on the market. I would like to pose 4 questions for you to truly think about before you answer them: (1) Will the Wii outsell the PS1? (2) Will the PS3 outsell the PS1? (3) Will the Wii outsell the PS2? (4) Will the PS3 outsell the PS2? My rebuttal to your argument about the Wii is that it will NOT outsell the PS2 but the PS3 WILL outsell the PS2. 9 years running and there are still games being made and systems being sold regarding the PS2. Plain and simple...the Wii wont last nearly as long but the PS3 will. If there was any generation of consoles that deserved the moniker of 'being in a race' it is this one. I know this has been said before, but this truly is a full marathon with miles yet to go. Each console has trained differently and the latter part of this race will show the fruits of their labor. Keep in mind that there is only one team with two entrants. Effectively, the PS2 and PS3 have made the marathon a relay race and the PS2 has just passed the baton to the well trained, slimmer, more efficient PS3. Fresh legs I tell ya...fresh legs.
PRESS Agree FOR yes.
yes they can they did it before.
Hmm. Maybe. But realistically, with ps3 sales eventually stabilising, we'll see a return to normal growth ratios and the sales gap will close only slowly - that's assuming MS doesn't counter unexpectedly with another price cut and natal goodness and outstrip the ps3 again in 6-12 months time. With that in mind, realistically speaking, how soon do we all expect the ps3 to catch up? Remember it has to cover an additional 7.7 million units just to be even! So, I am predicting, that IFF the ps3 catches up it will be in 2012. On average, this means the ps3 has to OUTSELL the 360 by 60000+ units EVERY single week... no small task, i can assure you. By that stage, the 360 will have been out 7 years, Natal games will be out and the 360 will have probably had 2 additional pricedrops. I would suggest that further 360 price drops will ALSO have an impact on sales, while the effect of Natal will remain to be seen. Of course it has potential to be quite huge, but let's not count the chickens before they hatch. Given theses facts, then, it seems rather dubious that the ps3 will be able to produce the required average, in the long term.
none but the most ardent fanboys like yourself then who like to pretend a console gen starts and finishes when microsoft says so...
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of course you realise, the logical extension of your comment is that you believe that the console lifecycle starts and ends when Sony tells you so? Hope that irony is not lost on you? Do you honestly expect anyone to care in 2012? I, for one, will be excited about the impending ps4 and xbox720. After all, wasn't the ps3 launched in the ps2's seventh year? In any case, don't get mad. I am just generating discussion.
So, as of this moment, based on official numbers the PS3 sits at 23.91 million versus the 360's 31.5 million. Ok, so Sony says at the end of the fiscal year they expect 13 million in sales for the year (ending March) although most analysts think they'll do better, let's just go with that 13 million figure. That means that by March of next year the PS3 will be at approx 36 million consoles worldwide. Now the 360 just finished it's fiscal year, so if we take what they're selling now and add about 10% or so to their sales, by the time the PS3 hits 36 million the 360 should be at about 40 million. That's already cut the 360's lead down to 4 million. If both consoles continue to grow at that rate then the PS3 will have pulled ahead by the end of 2010, start of 2011. Of course, PS3 sales might not remain consistent, just as 360 sales could slump again like they did in 2008 versus 2007 before the price cut. Or the 360 might slash prices again in an attempt to stay competitive. You can bet that Microsoft is well aware that they've been outsold in the 2 1/2 years since the PS3 launched worldwide. I'm sure they aren't just going to remain content to sit and let this get out of hand - mind you, what do they have other then price cuts? The problem is the 360 is viewed as unreliable, and starting to feel old. That's the only reason I can see why a $200 360 Arcade isn't making a dent against the Wii. Unless Microsoft can figure out a way to rebrand the 360 to shake off that stigma, I think it might be all downhill from here.
It starts when the first next gen console launches and finishes when the last console has stopped being supported. Last gen is still being played out with alot of people still buying ps2s but of course there is no competition so the ps2 just keeps on sh*tting over that original xbox so I can understand why you like to pretend that it doesn't matter when no microsoft console is on the market. There is no irony there.
The numbers do kind of put in perspective huh?
Great post (as usual) Commodore 64.
@ stewgard I guess in 2012-2013 if (and only if) the ps3 catches up you'll be throwing a ps3 fanboy party and playing sales? Will you be the only one, i wonder? I don't think i'll care. but yeah.. whatever makes you happy, dude! If you're happy, i am happy too. Problem is, you seem an angry sort of chap. Hopefully you get that sorted out soon.
lol... not quite mate I'm just calling you out on your BS.
oh you mean damage control? Thought so.
Do you think it's a coincidence Sony ripped PS2 compatibility from the PS3? They needed to keep sales going on the hardware that made them money. If nobody was buying it, they would have stopped producing it. That is easy to do when you own the market. The PS3 has been last in sales since launch. Right now the market would be looking to buy either a Wii or Wii 2 in 4 to 5 years.
Maybe the new price point will launch the PS3 back on track. So far it's sales history isn't like the PS1 or PS2 so it would be silly to assume it's life expectancy would be the same.
Check your facts. Since the PS3 launched worldwide it's outsold the 360 by over a million consoles, from 2007 till now. The 360 has been the one with the least amount of sales since it received any competition. You think developers haven't noticed which console sells more and sells more software? Sure the Wii can move hardware, but look at revenue for game makers. It's not the Wii paying the bills, the 360 hasn't been able to keep up to the PS3 since the PS3 launched worldwide - they aren't idiots. The PS3 is the pony to bet on in the long run. Also, Kaz confirmed recently that the PS3 has been profitable for over a full year now.
for me, it already won.
hell 54.2% of all Major microdouche's soldiers die in the line of duty.
52% failure rate is the 1st fail. remember most 360's break 2-5 times on average.
It can happen, sales for PS3 Slim an what is making it sale more an new great titles coming out, well that should help even more. Wii had its run but the way I see it, everyone by now that wanted a Wii should have one and those who don't yet will end up getting one. 360 had a early start an that means they might be the first to fall behind, coming out first has its ups and downs, like Wii has it ups and downs. All in all, only time can tell.
As long as i keep getting the GOTY games, who cares? Last time i checked that where no prices to win in this made up war, neither does it look like there will be any looser. Actually this gen seems to be full of winners. There is no Dreamcast scenario this time, neither a Gamecube one. All current gen consoles have decent sales and they don't even fight for the same interest groups for large parts.
they need to keep releasing good exclusives and 3rd party games, good advertising, and contiously do that on a regular basis and dont stop
History WILL repeat itself. And it's Sony vs. Nintendo. If 360 can't sell in japan, well 3rd is inevitable. I think Sony will win or tie when it's all said and done. :)
Sure it can. At this point, the large impact of Blu-Ray alone has helped Sony for many years to come.
Eh, I would rather have a close generation rather than a run away one. It means more competition. Competition = good.
Agreed. Keeps them all on their toes and the consumer benefits.
On the whole, I agree too. However, there is one instance where a clear winner would benefit us gamers: Consider the perspective of developers. At the moment they have to spread their resources across three platforms and try to maximise the potential of each. It comes as no surprise that compromises are made, because certain platforms are more difficult to code efficiently for and thus introduce 'deadweight loss' which eats up developer resources for no appreciable gaming gains. If instead, the developer had ALL of their resources to focus on one platform, it would probably result in better games for that platform. However, this introduces a monopoly into the console hardware pricing and will make gaming hardware more expensive at the cost of outright economic efficiency. Thus, competiton in the gaming market is good for consumers, as prices are kept low, but not good for producers, especially developers, as their game development resources are stretched too thin.
Well thats a strength for the 360 and its PC origins.Shared development costs.
I also think this will be a advantage in the future. MS COULD launch the next Xbox first. They could make it fully BC with the 360 and the new system would have plenty of games designed for the PC ready to easily port over.
It can and it will.I´m excluding Nintendo since it can´t be considered as a true HD competitor. 3D being implemented next year,free online service which is constantly growing,true 1:1 motion controller,Blu-Ray,the overal value and whatnot. Not to mention the fact that we´re talking about the Sony brand and its focus on the 10 years lifecylce. I´m definitely confident that the PS3 will win over the 360 on the long run.
omg! a double post! and people disagreed? you guys are nuts.
Hey 64, great comments. Its nice to see a some well thought out comments on this fanboy site. Usually its 'FTW' and other crap like that for responses. Sony has their work cut out for them if they want to win. It will not be easy. Same for MS if they want to stay in second. We will win with lower prices on hard ware.
Nintendo has been dominating with 480p shovelware games. They have not even had to try anything to stay ahead. So its foolish to underestimate them.
Anyone that thinks the Wii does not count is ignorant. It counts as Nintendos offering to this generation of consoles. Dismissing it is a sore loser attitude. Or a fanboy, take your pick.
Don't care. Too many games to play as it is. Keep'em coming. Let MS, Sony, and Nintendo worry about their peen waggling contests.
You are right, but just for xbetabots and biased journalism, it would be nice to see sony make a big comeback (because it's the better hardware and soft too)
with great games,at least for me. Considering it ll be out for 10 years till some 2015,2016 ,everything can happen in sales.I know ton of people who cant afford ps3 still,even its now 299.Ps3 has bright future. Andd if 299 ps3 continue to outsell 360 WW ms ll have to lower 360 price again in a next year or two.And thats probably the final point for 360 life spin.It cant go below 99. So im 99% sure it ll outsell globaly 360,not sure about wii. Fact s every1 wants ps3 cause it only does everything
I'd say PS3 will end up being second to the Wii. The Wii is so far ahead I don't see the PS3 reaching #1 this gen.
No, it cant.
ps1/ps2/ps3/psp/bluray/cell processor,etc, are things that sony risked on and succeeded on. ps1 cut into the market.ps2 solidified it.psp cut into nintendo's monopoly on the handheld market.bluray won the war in a very short time against hd-dvd.cell processor does everything from games to science.and does it well.ps3 with all its built in features is now the console with the most value. for $249,you get a wii.for $299,you get an elite.for $299,you get a ps3.one has more options and features built in compared to the others.you may not NEED it.but it's there if you NEED it. but sony's overall goal is selling 10 million consoles a year on average for 10 years of production.and they succeeded with every console and portable released.that's what gives them the 100 million each time in 10 years. when you keep this in mind,you can see that sony is succeeding in what they do.and have a better chance of outlasting their competitors.
The insane part is Nintendo is the only one that has been successful over the last decade or so. If you look at each companies financials each year, Sony has sold amazingly well and made very little in comparison. Most years they seem to lose money in gaming. Nintendo who I thought was a failure since the Gamecube came in last has done very well each year.
The PS3 was gaining ground all of last year until the 360 price cut. The same thing will happen this year but more so since the slim is out. And if Gran Turismo 5 comes out this year, it will be even more.