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Submitted by markfrost 1772d ago | review

Gamer Limit Review: Demon's Souls

Gamer Limit Writes: "Demon's Souls has completely revolutionized the action genre as we know it. While it remains a single player affair at its core, great strides were made to get other players involved in an action adventure experience, something Fable II tried and failed in the past. While casual gamers should be wary of the game's extreme difficulty, if you have any sort of strategic acumen, you will easily be able to figure a solution to any problem, and that's a truly gifted design choice." (Demon's Souls, PS3) 9.5/10

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Fullish  +   1772d ago
Come'on this game is garbage, 9.5?
itchy18  +   1772d ago
have you ever played this game?
40cal  +   1772d ago
Come'on
open your eyes. The game is gorgeous!

"you’ll find yourself stopping right in your tracks just to admire the beautiful architecture and scenery."

Game play sound like its just crazy challenging and fun.

"Every enemy in the game has some sort of weakness, or a strategy that can be employed against it."

This game seems to have great challenges, game play, visuals, atmosphere and customization. I hope it really dose, Ive got the collectors edition paid in full.
Fullish  +   1772d ago
You don't need to play a game to know it's bad.
markfrost  +   1772d ago
Blasphemy! Take it back!
raztad  +   1772d ago
"You don't need to play a game to know it's bad." <--- WORST comment EVER.

Please go away. You sound pretty ignorant, it's obvious you dont know what are you talking about.
callahan09  +   1772d ago
@Fullish, you clearly have never played Demon's Souls. It's easily my favorite game of this generation, and that's saying a lot because this generation has been great so far. It's an absolutely timeless game. Classic in every way. Just don't let yourself get frustrated and it pays off in more satisfying ways than any game I can ever remember playing.
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Yuenanimous  +   1772d ago
Haters are running amok
Vicodin  +   1772d ago
"You don't need to play a game to know it's bad."

Wow.

This game is incredible. For anyone who doesn't know, it is the spiritual successor to the incredible King's Field games:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Recently replayed KF2 again and still find it incredible. No other game has such a dreamlike sense of desolation and melancholy.

Demon's Souls is what you would call a Gamer's Game. Challenging as hell, but rewarding and not cheap.

I highly recommend picking up an old copy of King's Field 1 or 2. They work on all PS3s.

http://www.amazon.com/Kings...
http://www.amazon.com/Kings...

Hopefully they will make their way to PSN so more people can experience them.
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CaitSith  +   1772d ago
Try playing the game
instead of prejudging it. Seriously. Makes you sound ignorant. -.-"
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Headshot81  +   1772d ago
Joy fills my heart
knowing that 15year old 360fangirls will not play this game.
ultimolu  +   1772d ago
Please use the sarcasm text because you really can't be serious.
nycredude  +   1772d ago
@40Cal

Don't worry. This game is freaking great! I paid $75 to import this game and I am buying the collectors edition when it drops. THAT is how good this game is. It's easily worth $100.

You don't play this game you experience it.
mastiffchild  +   1772d ago
Nycredude-I'm gonna HAVE to import it as, again, another game fails to make it to the UK properly. I've already been nurned by some git from HK on Ebay over this so I'll wait this time and get it from a reputable US dealer(Plat Asia had run out!Now they've stopped I believe ).

Annoyingly my mate has it and usually I'd just get it fromhim when he finiahes but he's had it an age and is stuck, won't ask for help and won't lenmd me til he's finished it! Thanks for being too hard for my idiot friend DS! What I've played at his though was pretty amazing-like a really well thought out Zelda for big boys and girls with all the etra difficulty you could want. As for "you don't have to play a game to know it's rubbish etc"-maybe if it's reviews were uniformly terrible(a la Haze or Too Human)and peole who had played it hated it you MIGHT have a point but DS has got fairly glowing reviews from the sites I trust most with action RPGs and I don't know anyone who regrets getting a copy so far.

Funny game to blindly hate on, mind, as it's hardly omnipresent like a Halo(y'know you can avoid it very easily if you wish)or hyped to the nth degree like KZ2 so I don't see the reason for hating at all. If it isn't your kind of game anyway then why even comment? Has annoying people genuinely interested in a game become so important this gen?
ReservoirDog316  +   1772d ago
Hmm, I might rent this like Oblivion to test the waters. This difficulty thing makes me hesitant to drop $60 on it.

Also, to the people who imported it or just anyone who knows: are there any spiders in this? I'm really arachnophobic and these types of games usually have a bunch of them.

Oh and is there any story? The review really doesn't mention it.

Please answer if you know.
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MEsoJD  +   1772d ago
Fullish
must be a wii owner : p
SaberEdge  +   1772d ago
I want this game!
hulk_bash1987  +   1772d ago
@Fullish
I never thought I would hear something that stupid and illogical. BTW here's a little edit to your name that I think fits perfectly well (Fullish*t). Now go and put on your helmet and play with your legos in the corner.
INehalemEXI  +   1772d ago
@1.15
Yes, there is a spider boss deep in the bowels of one of the levels. It is possible to invite someone along and just watch them pwn it though.

The game is more action then story not alot of cutscenes.
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ReservoirDog316  +   1772d ago
@ IDemonstalkerXI
Thanks for answering. If that's the case I might pass on this. It'll just end up as a headache anyways. A near-impossible to beat spider boss will just make life harder for me in the end. Oh well, just frees up money to buy another game. I wonder which though?

Oh and I'd give you bubbles but I don't think it would really do anything for you at this point. But you know what they say, it's the thought that counts.
Ravage27  +   1772d ago
Great review that sums up the game's quality nicely
A very under-hyped game that is nothing short of amazing.

Best 4 features:
1.Epic boss fights(very inspired and simply awesome!)

2.Amazing gameplay depth

3.Atmosphere is done perfectly, and the unforgiving difficulty actually augments it (when was the last time you dread facing a RPG boss?)

4.Best online implementation by a RPG thus far. It has co-op,PvP,online leaderboards,community features(messages) and even a rating system(you get healed slightly each time your message gets rated)

Bad: Don't expect a epic story though, its pretty decent with a good ending but that's it.

However,avoid it if you're a casual gamer or if you lack the patience to overcome the initial steep difficulty curve.If you absolutely can't stand old-school gameplay, then this is probably not a game for you.

For the rest,esp. those looking for something fresh,this game releases exclusively for PS3 this Oct ;)

*edit* Adding on, this is one rare game in which you will die...A LOT.
In fact for your first playthrough, most ppl will be 'dead' 90% of the time (you 'revive' when you defeat a boss or use a special item).
The fact that you lose all your souls(currency used to level up & buy gear/item)everytime you die doesn't help too :p It's great though, coz it adds to the atmosphere and it 'helps' you to get better faster
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thedoctor  +   1772d ago
Not too sure about this one... I haven't heard the greatest of things about it, but perhaps now I'll need to check it out for myself.
Ziriux  +   1772d ago
Why just because a site gave it a 9.5. Read more reviews, asked others that have played it, do some research on it.
callahan09  +   1772d ago
Haven't heard the greatest things? Check it's metacritic score, this game is VERY well-loved and has a HUGE fan-following, and rightly so, it's an absolute classic.
CaptainKratos  +   1772d ago
if you never played these types of games before
Rent it. instead of getting all pissed of cuz it didn't have First person and guns.lol. but seriously if you never played these game types rent it. but love this genre of games so i will purchase it!!! YEAH!!!!
Ravage27  +   1772d ago
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if you are up for a challenge or want to play something fresh, i really recommend you to at least rent it. If you get hooked(high chance), you will definitely want to buy it.

Also, the replay value of this game is seriously unmatched.Read the review to get a better idea.

I'm NOT joking when i say that some of my friends have disappeared for a few consecutive weeks/months while playing it, it is THAT addictive.

If you are interested in ARPGs, do yourself a favour and get this game. FromSoftware has brought ARPG to a whole new level and i hope to get more games like it!
StartWars  +   1772d ago
I can't say I've ever played this game, but it doesn't arouse my taste buds from the looks of things.
Ziriux  +   1772d ago
Yea if you're into hack and slash you'll Love it, if you're not than you'll hate it.
Ninji  +   1772d ago
@3.1
I don't think you know what this game is. You should probably go look it up before you tell someone that they will like this game if they like hack & slash games. This game has nothing to do with hack & slash games. If you try to rush it and hack & slash everything in this game then you will die (lots and lots of times).
krauley  +   1772d ago
@3.1
i agree with 3.2. you are misleading with that H&S statement, this game is difinitely action/strategy with role playing elements and if you try to run throught it you will die so much its not funny. but if you work your way through it and survive you will be rewarded with a kind of incredible statisfaction that most games dont give you.
@1 "fullish" your just an idiot. go away!
Ninji  +   1772d ago
Lots of butthurt xbots over in the gamer zone lol.
B-b-b-but it's too hard! :(
raztad  +   1772d ago
Agree. Some bots were waiting Deamons Souls to be a bad game. It's not going to happen. Game looks to be awesome, many are praising it.
40cal  +   1772d ago
Day one.
This game is rounding off my October gaming nicely along with Uncharted 2 and GT PSP.
topdawg122  +   1772d ago
I thought ps3 didn't have good rpgs?
Ha, suck it bots
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nightelfmohawk  +   1772d ago
It's great to see games that are actually challenging again. Bots and Halo n00bs need not apply.
Obama  +   1772d ago
The bots are especially butthurt since they don't have a good game since last year. The best they get is shadow complex, an arcade game.
Demon Soul destroys 360's rpg lineup this year for sure.
thedisagreefairy  +   1772d ago
too bad
western gaming sites cant wait till demon souls is closer to its actual release date in October for us not in Japan to review this game.

reviewing it to early kinda takes the hype away if ppl havent heard of it yet
chrisjc  +   1772d ago
Atlus told sites to review it early. I'm pretty sure their market research shows when the correct times to review titles are.
itchy18  +   1772d ago
cool. i'm looking forward to this one. going to buy this together with Uncharted 2
DangerCurtis  +   1772d ago
This game is ridiculously difficult.
TenSteps  +   1772d ago
no it isn't
all you really need is an understanding of the enemies patterns sure an enemy can kill you in 3-4 strikes some can kill right away but if you know their patterns then it isn't that hard.
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Myze  +   1772d ago
@6.1

That's what makes the gameplay so good. At first, yes, the game is very hard, but the strategy comes in learning the enemies' weaknesses. It's still difficult, even if you know exactly how to kill every enemy, but it's not cheap in the level of difficulty.

The only thing I found "cheap" was when I would fall off a cliff near the end of a level and thus had to re-kill everything in it again. However, I learned to just be more careful and it's not a negative to the game, it's just very unforgiving.

The main thing that may end up getting people overly frustrated is some of the bosses. Fighting your way through everything to get to the boss is pretty tough (unless, of course, you've died to the boss 20 times), but then dying on the boss in a couple of hits/seconds without learning any strategy, then having to pretty much go back in blind again after re-clearing everything, it can get frustrating. However, like I said, you will never feel like the game is cheating or anything, and when you do finally kill the boss, it will feel very rewarding. More so than about any game I've played recently.

I wouldn't say it's my favorite game of this generation so far (MGS4, Uncharted, Valkyria Chronicles, Mass Effect and Batman are all there as well), but it ranks right up there with them, and fills a niche that no other game this generation has. I strongly recommend this game to anyone that isn't afraid of a challenge.
TenSteps  +   1772d ago
I know what you mean Myze
I remember the first time I got to play Demon's Souls I couldn't even get to the Phalanx so I stopped playing for a week.

In the end I decided to play with a little more focus and those damn red eye and blue eye knights aren't so intimidating after all I was able to cruise all the way to the phalanx.
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kazai223  +   1772d ago
japanese amazon review tells the truth
japanese amazon review

5stars:521
4stars:79
3stars:36
2stars:14
1star:9
itchy18  +   1772d ago
"You don't need to play a game to know it's bad."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA HAHAHA
cmrbe  +   1772d ago
Saying a game is a complete nightmare
in terms of difficulty is a must have game for me. I love extremely hard games.
callahan09  +   1772d ago
I consider myself more easily frustrated by videogames than most people, and I never really got frustrated during the 113 hours it took me to platinum Demon's Souls. I couldn't even beat Killzone 2 on Elite, but I had no troubles with Demon's Souls. But then again, it's kind of a matter of atmosphere. The way the game is presented, I felt encouraged to keep playing even though I died countless times. The game is definitely tense, intense, and challenging. But I never wanted to give up. It's a great balance.
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cmrbe  +   1772d ago
callahan09
Dam, then Demon Souls is not that hard then. I played KZ2 Elite on my first go. It was hard but the cover system helped me alot. Cover is your best friend in KZ2 elite. I would rate KZ2 elite as average in terms of difficulty. The thing is i played since the atari days. Old school games like NG, Battle toad where you normally only get 3 lives and limited health packs and no game saves. With games now days you always get regenerative health which is a big cheat imo.
raztad  +   1772d ago
Probably callahan is not that good at FPS/shooters and excels on RPGs, action/adventure, arcade. It depends on your skills.

It is common knowledge DS is a very challenging game. I already have it preordered, cant wait.
butterfinger  +   1772d ago
That's weird, cmrbe...
because you can't play Killzone 2 on elite difficulty until you have already beaten it once, so you're either lying or just don't know what you are talking about. Which is it?
callahan09  +   1772d ago
"Probably callahan is not that good at FPS/shooters and excels on RPGs, action/adventure, arcade"

I would say that's an accurate description. I've spent lots of my gaming life on action/adventure/platformer games, RPG's, and turn-based strategy. Although I was able to beat Resistance 2 on Superhuman, Halo 3 on Legendary, as well as both the first Gears of War and Unreal Tournament III on Insane. But for some reason Killzone 2 was just harder than any of those for me.
nycredude  +   1771d ago
Yeah I felt like i was being raped by Killzone 2!
3sq  +   1772d ago
Ah, what a great day!!!
SSCOOLCHEA  +   1772d ago
when is it coming out to the states ?
Heard nothing but great things . I know this been out in japan .
BrokenAnarchy  +   1772d ago
Oct. 6th

Can't wait for the release I pre-ordered the Deluxe edition this week, not a bad deal for $69
SilverDragon1979  +   1772d ago
Awesome review :)
jFND90  +   1772d ago
To be honest, I've never heard of the game before.
DonCorneo  +   1772d ago
RPG of the Year
Demon's Soul > star Ocean: the lost hope (which is also coming to the ps3.. in HD)

LMAO!!1!
butterfinger  +   1772d ago
HD...
is not going to make that Star Ocean game any better, but it sure did make Ghostbusters a hell of a lot more enjoyable on the XBOX360.

@DustGavin - Why would I care about Halo 3:ODST? I despise the Halo series. Hell, I barely like the Gears series. I'd rather play the sh!tty looking console version of L4D over either of those two anytime.

I guess %90 of you kids can only afford to own one console, but for those of us that have 2 or all 3, we don't need to defend one of them all day everyday. I can actually pick which games are better than others regardless of platform.
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dustgavin  +   1772d ago
@butterfinger
Too bad you can't say the same thing about Halo:ODST.

Edit: Nah. Some of us are just intelligent enough to know which console has the better value, games, and performance. Besides...some of us have a life outside of gaming.

Have fun hanging out with your 3 consoles!
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butterfinger  +   1772d ago
Lol.
Oh, jealousy is a beautiful beast isn't it? I'm sorry that I can afford to own all 3 current gen video game consoles, and I'm sorry that I can still have a great social life. It must really bother you, huh? lmao. I can enjoy all 3 consoles with no worries, while you're at home trying to stuff Halo discs into your PS3 and wondering why they don't play.

LMAO. I honestly don't know why you are so concerned with my personal life, but since you are wondering... My girlfriend is doing just fine (probably better looking than any girl that's ever spoken to you), I don't currently have any stuffed animals, and I've never paid for an XBOX360 in my life (I traded an extra 80GB PS3 that I had straight up for a Jasper elite, before that I had a 20GB 360 that I traded a GoW PSP for)... You are one of the most pathetic little children on this site, and I hope that for your sake, Mommy and Daddy finally break down and get you the XBOX you've been crying out for this Christmas. If you have anything else to say, feel free to PM me, since you are clearly trying to get personal. lol.

BTW, I played the superior version of that game in your avatar on my Wii. LMAO.
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dustgavin  +   1772d ago
Sorry that you cannot find a girlfriend, sorry that you count stuffed animals as friends, and sorry that you are stupid enough to blow your money on a 360.

Unfortunately, people like you are born into ignorance.
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Arnon  +   1772d ago
Man, if he's born into ignorance, then you were born in the backwoods. It's a pretty obvious fact that you're some poor child who unfortunately deprives himself for the sake of thinking that Sony actually recognizes your efforts to support their current console of which has still received little recognition as something 'absolutely amazing' as you keep claiming. I highly, highly suggest... that you take a breather and get off the site. Then, when this has happened, you look around and realize that you've spent more time on this website than this glorious, deprived life that you continue to gloat about as if you had one.
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THE MAX SPEED 21  +   1772d ago
9.5?

the game doesnt even look that good.
raztad  +   1772d ago
It's more about how it plays. It doesnt look too hot. Several reviews of the imported version are out. RPGfan made a recent preview highly recommending this game.

Game is challenging but rewarding. This is a must for any PS3 owners that enjoy rpgs
nycredude  +   1772d ago
Don't fooled. This game is one of the best games out. Skip at your own risk.
Grandreaper9999  +   1772d ago
I want to play this game.

Is an English version in North America yet?
Vicodin  +   1772d ago
US version, English:

http://www.amazon.com/Demon...

This item will be released on October 6, 2009.
Grandreaper9999  +   1772d ago
I does look..well.. lacking in the graphics department.. Oh well, I shouldn't complain. I play just as much old games as I do play new ones.
Shadow017  +   1772d ago
"but i tot fable 2 was gon be betta " You bots are missing out do yourself a favor and pick up a ps3 slim it only does everything :).
Faztkiller  +   1772d ago
I got a Question for the people who have played this game

The only RPG's i've ever liked are Oblivion and Fallout 3 is this game anything like those RPG's?
TenSteps  +   1772d ago
Nope
Oblivion and Fallout 3 are open world first person (yes I'm fully aware you can go 3rd person on both) RPG's that have an easy learning curve that you experience as you play the game for a while.

Demon's Souls is a level based third person action RPG where it's in your best interest to tackle the learning curve right away so that the rest of the game won't seem as hard as some people on the internet make it sound like.
IcyJoker187  +   1772d ago
Demon souls gets a 9.5!
While section 8 the Killzone 2 killer disappointed many and got a 6.5 from GI
ZOMBIEMAN1  +   1772d ago
@ Icyjoker
don't forget HHG also said it would lookbetter than KZ2 and look as good as Crysis so now it's proven the man is dumb . also nice Mr Freeze avatar from The Batman it was the coolest ( pun intended ) Mr Freeze design but his origins not so good and accurate
butterfinger  +   1772d ago
I really...
can't wait to get my hands on this game. This might be the one title that keeps me away from MW2, L4D2, and UC2 this Fall/Winter. I am definitely ready for an exclusive that is worth putting in a lot of time.
MajestieBeast  +   1772d ago
It plays like oblivion it isn't open world its 3th person and its genius. The way they did coop and the way you can help people by writing text or seeing other people die its a very good game easily in my opinion best rpg this gen. Its absolutely no hack and slash you can excel in magic and archery.

Most bosses need a tactic which you dont see much in games anymore cause they usualy have a arrow pointing saying hit here for maximum damage. Plus its a long game im 20hours in and im at the 4th boss.
Nikuma  +   1772d ago
Freaking love this game...Prolly gonna start another play through after I finish batman AA.
spunnups  +   1772d ago
Looks awesome. I will def pick this up ASAP
njmzhang  +   1772d ago
eurogame 9.0
gamerlimit 9.5
butterfinger  +   1772d ago
Wow.
Eurogamer gave it a 9?! A good PS3 exclusive score from them is like a 7 or higher. I'm expecting a lot of 10's now and a meta average above 90 (it's already almost there).
raztad  +   1772d ago
@butt

I definitely agree with you. Ps3 exclusive = 7 for eurogamer. Demons souls looks to be something off the hook.
DonCorneo  +   1772d ago
eurogamer gave it a 9
because they were absolutely positive that the game would never come to Europe. they threw a bone. the good news and bad news are Eurogamer is right: it's a very good game that will never see the light of day in Europe.. sorry, guys
nycredude  +   1772d ago
The guy who review the game at Eurogamer did a great job with the review. Very well written and accurate. He absolutely gushed about this game. One of the best games out now and I am buying a second copy when it drops in Oct.

If you like action rpg you won't get better for a long time.
JonnyBigBoss  +   1772d ago
Underrated game. Here we go!
thelastawakening  +   1772d ago
this has been my most anticipated game since killzone 2 came out. my god I wanna play with swords and fight dragons and shlt . I'm so tired of gunplay its gets sooo donting . I think this game will be the fresh air I've been craving for.. First day purchase definitely :)
saint_john_paul_ii  +   1772d ago
score another PS3 exclusive.
ipe  +   1772d ago
game deserves 9.5
i have imported version,but i ll also get deluxe version.

So many aaa games on ps3 this year kz2,infamous,demon souls,yakuza 3,mlb the show,uncharted 2,gt5,ninja gaiden sigma,gow collection,ratchet...

and 2010 starts with mag,heavy rain,gow3....
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