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Submitted by Rowland 1796d ago | article

Sony PS3 Slim Better Than Current PS3 In Several Ways

The new Sony PS3 Slim is not only more compact than the currently available PS3 console, but actually offers some more advantages. Sony has not actively promoted any advantages of the new PS3 Slim besides the small size, larger HDD (120GB) and the new low price of $299.99.

Over the last days reports appeared that highlight hardware differences in the new Sony PS3 Slim that makes it even more attractive to buy. The CELL CPU inside the PS3 Slim is actually new according to PC World. The original CELL CPU was based on 65nm technology and the PS3 Slim actually sports a new 45nm CELL CPU. The new 45nm is possibly offering more performance and is drawing less power. This means the PS3 Slim could be snappier and use less power. (Dev, Industry, PS3)

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mastiffchild  +   1796d ago
The chip is no doubt smaller and newer and could go quicker but seeing how the games are designed for all PS3s there won't be any difference in tem=rms of gaming and the net gain for Slim owners will be that it's a bit quiter and uses less juice and keeps cooler, imo. The chip will prolly be clocked to the same speed as the old ones anyway to preserve the same [performance over the range.

Secondly , as I've got a launch 60 with every feature(card reasers, BC etc) I don't want to swap anyway! Might get one for the bedroom, mond, and the sound performance, while cool, will only affect really high end systems.
Cwalat  +   1796d ago
Slim version, has everything that regular version has + Bravia Sync + Bigger HDD + Less heat, Queiter - Extra OS.

I'm one of those 99,9999% who won't be affected by the OS thingy.

I'll get the Slim, hopefully some store here in Sweden will sell it for under 3200kr (320€).
InfectedDK  +   1796d ago
@Cwalat - In Denmark the Slim costs 375 Euro = 2800 kroner (kr/DKK)..
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jamesrocks3147  +   1796d ago
@mastiffchild
i can see where your coming from however say if they clockspeed on these new cell processors are faster then it will load things quicker not everything can be limited to the standard ps3 luckly
The Lazy One  +   1796d ago
why would they overclock it?
Smaller chips will run games the same, run cooler, and use less power.

Considering the games are a built to run at a single spec, they'd have to give up the running cooler (and probably have to add louder/more expensive fans) and need more power (which would mean more than likely needing a bigger power supply to fit in the case somewhere) all to get a game to run exactly the same. Seriously doubt it's worth their time.

And loading wouldn't go faster. Loading has very little to do with the CPU. Much more to do with whatever the game is streaming from, HD/Disk etc.
na2ru1  +   1796d ago
Did Ken Kuturagi design the slim PS2?
And did he design the slim PS3?
sonic989  +   1796d ago
ok
no way iam gonna buy it
its for casuals
and like me if you are a hardcore you should have got a ps3 now
and sony didnt say anything like hay buy this model cause yours is a garbage
and even if they did anything new in this ( ugly casual thing ) still the quality and the frame rate will be the same on all systems
WHY cause sony cant reward the casuals ( cheap @sses ) with a better system
and i have linux in my PS3 and its working perfectly
you should try the new releases of linux ( its really optimized for the CELL ) and has a great support ( its like a linux PC )
uie4rhig  +   1795d ago
no linux hea!?
that's not good!! for one simple reason: HACKING!! the piracy community cannot hack for sh*t.. but the homebrew community is something else.. sony, put this feature back, or you will have to deal with hacking sh*t or have a PS3 minis!! I think, the #1 reason that PS3 hasn't been hacked 100% yet, is because of linux as it can run homebrew software, but if it doesn't run linux, homebrewers (which are the best hackers in the world) will try and succeed in hacking it!! i'm not sure!! i personally don't use linux, but if i Sony wants to prevent PS3 hacking, they need to find a way to let users run homebrew software, whether that is linux/PS3 minis or something else!!
FarEastOrient  +   1795d ago
I'm not too disappointed about the removal of the other OS feature for the new PS3s. Yet I am using Linux to play StarCraft, Command and Conquer, Empires: Total War, and Crysis on my PS3 and boy do those games look so good on a 42" plasma screen.
Electricear  +   1795d ago
My view of a few things.
It's my understanding, and I could be wrong, that patch 3.0 is going to be adding the Bravia Sync feature to all ps3's, as well as the bit stream audio and Dolby True-HD Audio. All three of these features should be patchable in the existing PS3's.

Secondly in regards to Other OS. I've got mixed feelings about it's loss. While it's true that many users didn't see it as useful, I feel the loss of using new ps3's as Myth TV clients is a little sad. Also look at all the colleges and research groups that made mini super computer clusters out of ps3's and all the great research that has been done because of that. MIT offered classes in programing the cell processor that were thought using ps3's, and students from those classes have gone on to work at game companies making games for the ps3. To some gamers other OS may not seem like much of a loss, but perhaps that is only because they are unaware of how it ultimately may affect them.

Edit: oh and one last thing the original launch Cell processor was 90nm the second wave of Cells used in the non Backward compatible ps3's was 65nm, and now they are 45nm.
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callahan09  +   1796d ago
Of course it's better. It's smaller, lighter, consumes less power, runs cooler, and apparently runs quieter.
commodore64  +   1795d ago
excuse my ignorance...

but was that ALL achieved by gimping PS3 LINUX and PS2/PS3 backwards compatibility?
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gaffyh  +   1795d ago
@2.1 - Maybe you should buy a PS3 Slim and find out for yourself.
Electricear  +   1795d ago
to mr C64
No the loss of those of the backwards computability was a cost reduction measure that isn't related to the the processor size. I'm not 100% sure that other OS couldn't be added back at a future date, but it was probably not used by the majority of owners, so the demand wasn't enough to justify it's development for the slim.
commodore64  +   1794d ago
@ ^^^

Yeah dude... i know...
I was just being sarcastic.
FF  +   1796d ago
But PS3 Silm is very ugly...
Tony-A  +   1796d ago
Oh yeah, that would definitely stop me from getting one. Has all the primary power and multi-media functions plus more, but it's "too ugly"....
--joshua--  +   1796d ago
i wouldn't say ugly....
just very plain looking like a piece of square plastic
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plum30  +   1796d ago
I hope Gamestop has some sorta trade up for the Slim.
Nineball2112  +   1796d ago
There are mods / wraps available for the regular PS3...
I'm sure everyone will be able to get a wrap or something like that if they want to customize the Slim.

At least, I'd think so.
CryWolf  +   1795d ago
I like the regular PS3 then the ps3 slim have you guys seen the slim it is so ugly who ever design that console wasn't thinking and their is no backwards compatibility with PS2 or PS1 WTF is going on here.
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FlipMode  +   1796d ago
And its better than the elite in 20 ways.
free3sixty  +   1796d ago
SLIM = fail

300 USD is way too much for the casual consumer.

oh.. 360 sold also more units as the PS3 in japan this week, lol.

PS3 is dead.

I know what you tards say :D.. "Wait until" the 1st month, lol!
And if nothing will happen you will say "Wait until" christmas and Gt5 bundles!

Wait until, LBP
Wait until price cut (399)
wait until Kz2 (most hyped game and floped in sales, COD4 most played on PSN)
Wait until uncharted
Wait until God of War3 (the 2nd one sold only 2 million at a 120 million install base)

HELL:: WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE PS3!
Tinted Eyes  +   1796d ago
If it failed the why is it selling out?
keysy420  +   1796d ago
you sound dumb
of course the 360 out sold the ps3 in japan. because unless your a idiot like you form what your saying we all knew that the price drop was coming. i dont know what your talking about wait till, wait till, people can say wait all day but until the ps3 just became a better value than the 360 even if the 360 is a hundred dollars . their has been nothing to wait for. you wan to know what to wait for wait until you have no choice butot go buy a ps3. unless your not a true gamer if your just a person who plays your 360 and then comments on how the 360 is better than the ps3 then your opinion doesnt really matter then anyway. you just sound like a idiot who has no clue what they are talking about. here's a number for you 75% of people who already own a ps3 are comtemplating getting a sliim that's 10 million people. not to mention the other 10million that are waiting to jump in.people are predictiing that the ps3 wont cathch the xbox i dont see how not the ps3 was on track to catch the xbox without the price drop. so unless your a total idiot you can clearly see that the ps3 is a way better valuee and the games are way better. say wha tyou want but all fanboyism aside the ps3 library is just plain better than 360's. probably for now on. funny thing is is that th eps3 will go down as having the greatest library of games ever. and 360 fanboys are gong to miss that. so who is a true gamer ps3 fans who own a 360 or 360 fanboys who just talk abou ta system they dont have.
ultimolu  +   1796d ago
Go shove your head up Greenturd's ass already...you're stinking up the place.
Guitarded  +   1796d ago
I hope your right free360.
I hope the PS3 fails so hard at $299 that they have to drop it again before Christmas. At $199 the PS3 is almost worth it. When I factor in the adapter for the 360 pad, I'd have to see a bundle of two good games to justify it. I did state that $250 was my price point at one time, but I've revised it back to my original buy price. Come on PS3, you can fail. I know you can!

Edit: Oh! Look it's Juultimolu! Finally had enough humiliation and decided to stop PMing me. How DARE I compare the PS2 and 360 hardware failures. What a loser!
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ultimolu  +   1796d ago
Retarded
The only loser around here is you dear.
JYstiq808  +   1796d ago
Lol... "free3fixme" seems like your brain has gone RRoD
Your soo desperate man.. why don't you go back to the screaming 12 years old crying in the corner. haha
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cranium  +   1796d ago
LExcept it doesn't have B/C like mine, so I couldn't care less.
ukilnme  +   1796d ago
Although it does not have BC (got a 60gb PS3 for that), I like it. Hopefully, I will have enough spare funds to pick one up around the holiday season.
rukia_chan  +   1796d ago
Sony PS3 Slim Better Than Current PS3
why I am a fanboy of sony .. always in
evolution (darwin ftw!) with their consoles not equal sh!t with their rrods ms and error 74
kaveti6616  +   1796d ago
I need this machine rite now!!! RITE NOW!!!
foxtheory  +   1796d ago
I think the biggest thing is obviously...
the 120GB. imo, the looks don't really matter, but I will say that I like the shiny finish on my phat model. If I were going to purchase a PS3 now, the Slim IS the way to go, no doubt about it.
riddlesticks  +   1795d ago
I disagree about the "biggest" thing "obviously" being the 120gb HDD. My 60gb launch PS3 has a 320gb hard drive and because it is so cheap and easy to upgrade your hard drive to much bigger than 120gb this is no big deal.
Socomer 1979  +   1796d ago
free3sixty
youre so scared, lol!

with people like you, you need to feel like a winner. you think youre rolling with the best. it is a fact that you are the weak minded and youve been subliminally controlled. its not your fault and you can snap out of it if you quit being . . . scared.
Blaster_Master  +   1796d ago
Im actually sad that it doesn't have the old shelling material. I love my shiny ps3.
invoked  +   1796d ago
I DON'T UNDERSTAND
how anyone can believe that the ps3 slim is better in terms of value than it is the original. Obviously Sony couldn't cut the price on the original ps3 to this extent because of costs. The Original Ps3 has all of the high quality/EXPENSIVE components which makes it BETTER than the slim. I mean Sony is obviously using cheaper/untested components in order to make it possible for consumers to buy it at 300 dollar price point. If i didn't already own a ps3 i would opt for the original ps3 while they still last. It's the same price and most people are probably hunting for 299.99 80gb original ps3's before they became extinct. I prefer a system that started out at 400 and gets cut to 300 over a system that debuts at 300. You get what you pay for.
vickers500  +   1795d ago
"started out at 400"

600 you mean. The best version, that was worth every penny. If you are rich and have the option of spending 900 dollars on a brand new one (Amazon) or can tolerate a used one for I think 300 bucks, then you should buy a 60 gigger if you want the maximum amount of features.
f789790  +   1795d ago
Expensive components do not make it better
Just like putting gold into your toothpaste isn't going to make your teeth cleaner.
invoked  +   1796d ago
BLASTER
i completely agree with you. Obviously Sony had to make sacrifices to cut costs. I'm sure that the ps3's hard/smooth/slick material was a big part of that sacrifice.
f789790  +   1795d ago
Uhhh the shiny surface?
Not expensive at all. I'm sure it cost $.50 and it makes it look so much better.

As for the PspGo, I'm glad it isn't shiny because you have to touch it.
Crystallis  +   1796d ago
I buying the slim. Im down to 13gb on my 60gb ps3. I'll put the slim in my basement.
f789790  +   1795d ago
Why don't you buy a new hard drive?
Or do you really want two ps3's?
phantomexe  +   1796d ago
It's not better then my 60 gig that lets me play older games.
Chubear  +   1795d ago
LOL, SO DOES MY 80GIG
mricecreamman  +   1796d ago
how is the slim better??? the only good thing about it is 120gig harddrive, with the old ps3 you can upgrade your hard drive easily. so it really isn't better. two you loose BC. three they took away installing multiple os. four no more sd/compact reader. you get what you pay for. sure 300 dollars is a deal if you look at it being the cheapest blu-ray player out there, but you are other features listed above. i understand they are cutting cost and saving energy, but the second generation 80gig is still better with same price. if i had a chose to get a ps3 i would get the 80gig. i am glad that i have the 60gig version. again you pay less you get less.
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Lucifer02  +   1796d ago
you can still change the hdd as easely dude : )
mricecreamman  +   1796d ago
ugh that is not what i am trying to get at. i know you can change the hard drive still.
Lumbo  +   1796d ago
As the current models on sale do NOT have BC, how do you loose it with the slim? Maybe you are a bit confused there ...

It's better cause its using less power, and hence generating less heat, wich leads to a less noisy cooling (not that the noise was huge like some other systems anyways). And it comes with a bigger HDD compared to the 80GB model it replaces.
mricecreamman  +   1796d ago
if you people know how to read then you would understand my point of view. yes i know it produces less power, less heat, less noise. who cares. if that's what you are aiming for then yes, it would be the perfect system for you. the 80gig does have some what of BC. software emulation is for BC and it is only 80 percent or so. as of right now there is no BC ON SLIM. again if i DID NOT have my 60gig, I WOULD RATHER get the second generation 80gig OVER the slim version.
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na2ru1  +   1796d ago
60 GB is the best
BUT the most power consuming - 200 watts, which I own.
40/80 GB PS3s w/o B/C - 140 watts (?)

PS3 Slim - 70 - 100 watts. Think of the savings on bills. Play twice as much with same bills. This is my main reason for wanting a slim PS3. My 60 GB PS3 will be moved to the living room as the entertainment system.
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mricecreamman  +   1796d ago
very well said
na2ru1
cayal  +   1795d ago
Who installs other OS's on their PS3?

There'd be less than 1% of PS3 owners who do that.
f789790  +   1795d ago
Who cares about the card reader. It's called USB. How often am I going to remove a memory card from a camera and put it in my ps3? Maybe once.
na2ru1  +   1796d ago
Tretton said something about
how it is still early and PS3 being in it's infancy. I think this is not the end of Sony's earthquake.

I believe there will be ANOTHER SLIMMER PS3 in the near future just like PSPs.
invoked  +   1796d ago
IF AESTHETICS WEREN'T IMPORTANT
HD wouldn't be important. Fact of the matter is that entertainment has to do with Eye appeal. Who wants a nice 50 inch HDTV with an ugly, last Generation looking gaming system? Some people care and some don't. But if i'm jumping next generation i want my console to look and feel like it's next generation.
cayal  +   1795d ago
Epic fail.
ForROME  +   1796d ago
IM torn on the look, its growing on me, sometimes I think its uglier sometimes I think its bette

My vertic is horizontal I like the new one, vertically I like the old one
f789790  +   1795d ago
I thought the ipod was ugly when it first came out
Then everyone around me freaked out about it, and my mind was unwillingly changed.
bunbun777  +   1796d ago
i have a question
Sorry for sounding too ignant but:

Is Sony still going to manufacture the older phatter ps3's?

Call me old fashioned-- but i like the "no touch" buttons and heftiness.
LinuxGuru  +   1795d ago
No. Manufacturing will soon cease for the current "phat" models.
invoked  +   1796d ago
BUNBUN
no, they're being discontinued. Sony is selling the slim exclusively to cut costs.
invoked  +   1796d ago
THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND
The original ps3 has all of the original/expensive/high tech components built into it. This is exactly the reason Sony couldn't cut the cost anywhere below 400. Now the slim is coming and it debuts at 300 because the costs of making the ps3 are lower because of cheaper components inside the slim. GET THAT 80GB PS3 Original before it sells out and phases out of existence. You probably have from now until September to get one before They're all gone and replaced by the slim.
SoapShoes  +   1796d ago
You don't know much about manufacturing
The price is not reduced because they put in flimsier parts, it's less expensive because they don't need as much stuff in it as well as shrinking parts inside it.
hesido  +   1796d ago
Dammit,
I'm beginning to hate the ps3 slim will be faster disinfo. Sony should stop such silly claims with a press release or something. How about "The new cell is using 45nm tech, uses less power and cooling, and offers the same outstanding performance of its previous incarnations."..

Goddammit, stop saying the new slim will be faster, Consoles support a single computing spec, that's the reason we can have God of war or other excellent games, which runs the same across all consoles it is played on.
TheMART  +   1795d ago
Well I'm glad I didn't wait for God of War III to buy the PS3 and got it in the LBP pack with a Fat PS3...

1. The Slim PS3 looks ugly cheap, although there are no fingerprints anymore the plastic itself looks cheap. Besides that I am missing the chrome, and I like the chrome Playstation 3 print it also better compared to the PS3 on the Slim.
2. The touch eject/power button have been replaced by cheap buttons you need to press. And the buttons look ugly too
3. The Slim needs a seperate stand to stand vertical. Wut? My Fat does it without. It costs 20 to 30 bucks or so for a stand. NICE!
4. No Linux installation? I thought the PS3 fanboys were all over it
5. the on/off switch is missing
6. Slim isn't always better, look when Apple got the macbook air, they overheat more easily because the airflow isn't optimal. Sony is rushed into the Slim, because they need to drop their price fast to keep up with Microsoft, so question is how much they test the airflow
7. Cutting down the costs further by using cheap parts, earlier breaking down of BluRay diodes etc.

Although I didn't think the original design of the Fat was all that, I'd still prefer it compared to the slim.
wxer  +   1795d ago
can you really stop trolling
cus you really sound soo dumb
you make your self look bad
Mr Face Creamer  +   1795d ago
omgz wy u dis teh pos3, microwsoaft suck lololololollolol percentage failure, teh xb0ts are teh madness LMAO, trashstation 3 ftw 299.99 suck on zat greenturd lul godbye beople, it's zah tyme 2 giv kaz hiray hand relief.
IWentBrokeForGaming  +   1795d ago
My 60 gig
just wanted to say that it begs to differ!
chewmystink  +   1795d ago
Whats with all the B/C crap
There is no B/C in either the 80gig or 160 gig current PS3's.
They are just like the 40 gig which didn't have it either.
Think people are confusing it with the old 80gig model that did have B/C emulation but current 80's do not.
It is cheaper due to the 45nm architecture to manufacture is the main reason it is able to be cut in cost not because it is a inferior product in component terms.
Wait until your beloved backward compatible systems start getting YLOD what are you going to do than, believe me it does happened and it happened to me on my 40 gig. I treat my equipment carefully and it was always well ventilated and didn't really do marathon gaming with it left on 24/7. The thermal paste Sony used in the older systems gets very dry and brittle after a year and half so if you want to keep your system alive I would put new paste on it now with some artic silver compound, otherwise Sony wants big money to repair your current system and lot of stories say you get a refurbished replacement and not your beloved b/c compatible model.
I fixed my 40 gig yellow light of death with a heat gun and redid the thermal paste and it fixed it fine but you'd be better to redo the thermal paste on the CPU before getting to a ylod stage.
I also have a JAP 60gig model launch console so I'm not knocking the B/C version owners but seriously...
Quikchicken_Fly  +   1795d ago
ps3 slim and ps3 fat have one goal anyways that is to take down M$
-EvoAnubis-  +   1795d ago
My PS3 has 4 USB ports, not two, has SD, MM, and CF card slots, can run YDL, and can play PS2 games.

My PS3 isn't just better; it's genetically different.

Still, new PS3 owners are getting a hell of a deal. However, the concept that the Slim is better than mine is simply absurd.

First time ever I haven't felt screwed over by being an early adopter.
Vip3r  +   1795d ago
"The original CELL CPU was based on 65nm technology and the PS3 Slim actually sports a new 45nm CELL CPU"
Wasn't the original CELL 90nm?
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