He sums it up: The danger is currently the storage medium (DVD), and one we thing we're all praying for in the next round of hardware is that they don't just go, 'It's DVD again'.
That was fast i was wondering when somebody would post a counter to what was posted this morning. lol Again, again. http://www.dailytech.com/Qu...
hm nice move.
classy rebuttal, bubbles for u my son.
Microsoft tried pulling a sony and released the 360 first. However when they released it, HD-DVD wasn't a finalised format, so they were stuck with DVD. Yet the 360 loyals actually defend this. Its microsoft's stupidity that is affecting games now. The lack of the core 360 harddrive and using the dvd format is hindering GTA IV from being the superb game it should be. Nice one microsoft. HD consoles need HD discs, it's simple. "He sums it up: The danger is currently the storage medium (DVD), and one we thing we’re all praying for in the next round of hardware is that they don’t just go, ‘It’s DVD again’. If he made such a comment now, it would seem like an intentionally partisan comment. But from 2004, that quote actually seems like a genuine technical issue." PS3 gamers are forced to use blu-ray for games. GREAT! 360 gamers are forced to use dvd's for games....uh...great...
That is, in all honesty, the truth
If he made such a comment now, it would seem like an intentionally partisan comment. But from 2004, that quote actually seems like a genuine technical issue. Well I'm saying it now and I'm NOT saying it from a partisan point of view. I'm saying it purely as a genuine technical issue. When they sitting down and started designing this game, the first thing they would have said is "Well it has to fit on a DVD." Theres no getting around that. GTA4 will not make good use of BR, Not unless they have some copious amount of extra content, which they wont. The games are going to be practically the same. They cant make 20 GB wont of Data. It just wont work. Put your fanboyism aside and see that plain obvious fact. I'm not saying this because I like PS3 better. I'm saying this because a 10 Gallon bucket holds more water than a 1 gallon bottle, and thats undesputeable. I'm sorry if you think I'm insulting your Xbox, because I'm not but the PS3 version has essentially been handicapped before the game was even started, and we are going to see this more and more over the next 2 or 3 years. No one is even really pushing BR yet so if its a problem now, how bad will it be later, seriously. The Guy was complaining they were filling DVD in 2004. I'm done. Sensible responses only please.
BUY WHAT YOU WANT. If the storage was really a problem they still could make the game better on blu-ray. Also lack of a hdd shouldnt be an issue for them as THE 360 GETS HOURS OF EXCLUSIVE GAMEPLAY CONTENT.
Rather have a smaller game with more advanced gameplay with more advanced graphics to chalange me on my HDTV than an average large game with 5th generation capabilites and average looking visuals, Games the size of Mass Effect, Crack Down & Oblivion etc are good enough on a platform that has too many good games in the first place. DVD/Blu-ray will be useless in a few years anyways. LOL. PS3 has space and math skills, 360 has graphical might and AI advantages. lets move on hahahahahahaha... Ya ya ya we know the sandbox genre will hurt the 360 if you read the original comments both consoles present problems probably due to the PS3 not being able to show too much on screen at any given time with its limitless space. lol Games like GeoW!, Slinter Cell 5, Mass Effect can not be done because of PS3's piss poor memory use. lollloollollol spacetoilet you're not exactlly on my winners list, you seem ass hurt. MS's compressions plus new technoligies should be enough this generaton. http://www.dailytech.com/Qu...
Not really. Both are fairly equal in either respect, people just like to blow it out of proportion. It all depends on how well the developer makes their game for whatever system.
Are we supposed to be amazed by those screens??? caaaause they look like crap.. More proof by the minute that M$ raped you all and KEEP raping you.. @ Deep (below) - that LAIR shot gives me the chills everytime i see it..
yay it's a fight to the death with images! I love these. My go!
"PS3 not being able to show too much on screen at any given time with its limitless space. lol" Pog that was a bit "dumb"...Resistance enemies on screen...Gears enemies. Lair enemies on screen, Heavenly Sword 3000 strong army. Anyway dum dee dum to shadow...use a rain one for F1...that effect is really cool :) Yeah! nice
I got some more
Deep I thought you would be the unbiased one. But yet, still Sony fanboys in disguise. We'll see kids we'll see. Bet the 360 version will still looks better because it's the main platform for development. For GTA4 For Assassins Creed For many, many other games So Sony droids, either way, BluRay or not, you'll get the tuned down versions. Which is good because your GPU is just an old standard PC card Sony needed to buy lately in their design process when they found out the Cell couldn't take the GPU tasks with it
Well I'm sad that someone would go to the effort of clicking disagree on every one of my posts. I thought I'd difuse the situation with a game of screenshot chess. Shouldn't we be commending devs for their efforts, and be in awe of realtime nextgen graphics? Or should we talk and argue...you decide. I like seeing the most impressive pictures people can find. "Bet the 360 version will still looks better because it's the main platform for development. For GTA4" - you have no evidence for that.
Never remember hearing that.
Sonyfaboy in disguise is correct. Why not show some impressive 360 shots, if your so neutral. Have you heard about Spiderman 3, a sony picture, so which platform do you think it was designed on first. Well anyway, they are saying that the 360 version is better. Ps3 is impressive and 360 is impressive, but they both have their flaws. Pointing out one, while not acknowledging another is proof enough of fanboyism. I mean let's see some pics of; Bioshock (since you deep, did a submit about the water in it (oh and if you think i'm backing you in this, you went on in a comment when compared to lair that the water in bioshock was in a confined area and not as impressive as said other game, and blah blah blah.... so don't think for one moment that this proves neutrality)), too human, blue dragon (some really impressive next gen cell shading), and etc. Yall posted some great pics of ps3 games, which means both consoles are great. So what's all the fuss about? They both can't seem to outpace each other and we the gamers are benefitting. I say it is a great time to be a gamer.
Lack of hard disk drive is more important right now.. open world games need fast loading for their worlds so they nee some space in HDD... Blu ray is amazing for single player games like MGS4,FF13,HS,Uncharted.. Ps3 and Playstation titles are allwayes known as incredible single player.. so they need more than DVD.. but many XboX titles like Halo wont need more than 9 GB.. they will enjoy multiplayer..
This as good as any place to post more of my STATE OF THE CRAP screens.. yeahhh WARNING!! - This screens were taken by me while being drunk. Enjoy [email protected]
....."probably due to the PS3 not being able to show too much on screen at any given time with its limitless space. lol " Er.....again blind fanboy bs assumption by a fu(kwit xgirl.
This are from Resistance!! enjoy
the ps3 games look fantastic on these screens. they look far better than any game on the xbox360.
Make two different versions. A 360 version that contains downloadable content( stuff not included in the ----> ) and a PS3 version that is wholly complete.
those 360 and ps3 pictures are looking good. are they all gameplay footage?
if there really is a disc problem, why don't they just use two discs. they did that before on final fantasy, myst and loads of other titles. no one moaned then. if they want the game badly, people wont mind. its not that much of a problem, its not like you would have to change the disc every few minutes.
"oh F*ck the mission is again on the other way of the city...lets change the disk AGAIN....oh the man is running to the other neighborhood...oh let him go cus we need to change the disk...AGAIN..." understand why they can't put it on only on e disk?
if u have official Screens from both 360 and ps3 version plz upload it... ( GTA4 and AC ) ... if u havent yet ... so STFU .. only Ubisoft WHINE about Ps3 coding.. look at Bthesda and Team ninja.. and now look at Rockstar .. its not official but some words must be untold cuz of political reasons. may be its hard now( doubt it with better support from sony right now in software) but if they want make more money , they must learn from other developers.. SC:double aganet is a good example for Crap porting(wont make moeny) and NGS and Oblivion (will make another huge income for them )is a good one..
God your such a blind fanboy. Your so repetitve, you use the same technical jargen to jusity the 360 as the superior platform. You even admit that your OWN CONSOLE dumbs down games. Are you stupid? I honestly hope that RS just comes out and says "f it we're making it for the PS3 because we know the 360 is not what we would have wanted." Your old, your in the DVD age, their going to be obselete in 2-3 years once HDTV takes over 75% of the market....get over it.
Damn i hate it that GTAIV have to be mulitplatform.The reason why he isnt gettin into more details about the 360 problems is because he wants the game to sell.damn u microsoft!!
The fact its taken from 2004, back when DVD's we're fine and most games didn't even break the 4.5 gig limit. There has been one generation of consoles that use dvds, and we all of a sudden have to use some thing else? nah i dont think so. hell san andreas only took up at most 3 gigs... so i have no idea what hes talking about...all most filling up dvds.
Well he did say they had already needed to move to dual layer at this point, but I partially agree that it should still be ok on a DVD or DL-DVD, whichever they use in the end.
I think you are talking about the compressed as hell torrent file for the pc
1st get informed...i have san andreas on pc and it needs more than 5GB on disk...so? the new god of war 2 have a double layer dvd that occupies 7GB...so?
some years ago we didn't even need 1GB but the more you put the better graphics and resolutions you have....by the way resistance occupies 14GB