Vijay Pande, creator of the [email protected] project, which harnesses the power of networked Playstation3s across the world to carry out essential research into Alzheimer's Disease, has revealed to Pro-G that the 360 is of limited help to his work.
This is coming from the creator himself, guess the 360 really cant do [email protected] *shrugs*
Even if the 360 can't do folding as fast as a ps3, it can do it faster than a pc, so why not still offer it. I mean they are still allowing the program for pc users, why not offer it for 360 users. If he was really out to help people, he wouldn't make such stupid comments. You would want help from every facet of the planet, and you wouldn't try to put down something else. To me (i'm sorry guys) but that sounds bought. Just an observation. They are still using pcs', they are now using ps3's, what is really the problem with using 360's for those that want to help. I mean it's for the greater good, right? It's not for bragging rights about a console. That's just a bonus for sony about calculations (but you want to know a secret, the ps2 could calculate faster than the original xbox so go figure). I'm sorry this guy is full of crap now, I don't get why you wouldn't want help from those who want to help. Doctor's are bought all the time from pharmaceutical companies, why couldn't he be bought? Like i said before, the ps3 can calculate faster, but a 360 contribution would still help us all, and is faster than the pc's so someone really needs to get the ball rolling. We are talking about a disease that can affect us all, both 1st hand or 2nd hand. We would still all benefit in the end if we used all our resources to find a cure or something. This world is so stupid sometimes!!!!!!!!!! Thanx for the disagrees guys, atleast if your are gonna disagree with me, be brave enough to say why. That would be the more mature thing to do. But thanx anyway, atleast it shows that you read my comment (i hope), and maybe you got something out of it.
Where does it say that the 360 could do it faster than the PC? stop jumping to conclusions. The 360's 3 core processor is an in-line processor with only 1MB of L2 cache shared amongst 3 cores! and runs at only half the speed of the core! (1.6GHz, which is asynchrous, which results in all sorts of latency issues), This is in no way faster than A PC CPU. That may be fine for graphics processing & properly arranged general code but not general processing, or branch execution, or heck even AI or physics, which need to change with whats going on. Now the PS3's architecture seems to work better for this form of processing, and the advantage really lies in the SPU's and not the PPC core, (which is almost the same thing as the cores inside the Xenon. P.S. Im not one of the "Disagrees" i dont waste my time with that, as it has to reload the page, no thanks
"This world is so stupid sometimes!!!!!!!!!!" You know the world might be stupid in the eyes of genius or retard that too full of himself. You pick which one you wannabe.
I was going to click disagree, but you got disagree point so many already. btw ... I believe its because you mention that 360 is faster than PC, do realize what is your saying? the truth is PC still faster, I'm not sure about CELL though, nobody officially test on both CHIP yet. if you think again with macPRO 8 core, do you think 360 is still faster? if 360 is faster then I would like to use 360 for my farm rendering, which is more cheaper than render boxx, where the cost is at least $1750 for each unit, with the price of $600 PS3 is surely cheapest supercomputer. it's true. I'm not a CELL maniac. and it's not me to say the fist that CELL is fast for calculating. http://boxxtech.com/
I'm talkin about the average pc users computers, i mean there are now quad core pcs of course the 360 is not faster than those, but i'm just generally speaking about the average consumer who is running folding at home.
Guess the 360 is only built for GAMING after all....ah well all the 360 owners will just have to continue gaming while the ps3 fans enjoy [email protected]
and it deosn't benefit [email protected] either
Agree.. Big stinking deal.. Buy your console to Fold.. I bought mine to play games. I can't wait to see an article about the Power Button. The PS3 power button feels softer on my finger than the 360 button.. There's one more fanboy arguement we haven't had yet.
I guess the ps3 really does slaughter the 360 in terms of power/ calculations per second and so forth. All the better for ps3 games, shame the 360 can't handle that
And while your machine is farting out quadratic equations and square rooting pie I'll be playing GOW and other scorching games. Have fun, but assurredly, if its your machine vs. my machine you won't catch up in this department for quite some time yet.
You guys compare these consoles for everything. It's really getting rediculous. If the folding dude don't think the 360 is as good for folding then good. Not the 360 owners need not feel bad for not helping a good cause. They can just say, my 360's not compatible. Besides, if some one was willing to lend me a FREE hand, I'd accept their offer without whining about how little help their giving, this guy must be a retard. Anyway! This is the one of the dumbest posts i've seen yet. To be honest about it, unless there is a new game coming out that uses the folding engine (sarcasm) them who cares. The xbox360 displays xboxlive better than the ps3, but really, who cares. I know I don't! Just another lame post to start people to flaming, it's not about folding anymore, now it's about which console is better, as usual I guess.
Hmm..years later, and you're still playing Gears of war.LMFAO Meanwhile we, PS3 owners, are being treated to la creme de la creme of Visual stunners.Sucks to be a bot.
you are still playing gow??? hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahhahahahahahahahha HA
aaa well...i guess the 360 is not that powerful afterall...i guess the 360 has really reached its limit overheating running games an' all...whilst ps3 can dish out equally good games whilst farting complex calculations in its sleep....imagine what the ps3 can do 2 years from now...swweeeeetttt
This is about [email protected] and how it cannot run on the 360, lets now go overboard with this. It has no relation to gaming on either consoles.
I dont remember reading at any point in the article that 360 cannot run folding...nice lie to tell.
It's fanboy wars.. When you back a sick animal into a corner it will lash out anyway it can.. This latest is this folding BS.. It's hard for them to accept they aren't #1 no matter how much they blabber on about the power of the cell.. Which is damn powerful btw but not god's gift to processing like many of these comments would lead you to believe. Not one point did I read that the 360 couldn't do Folding.. But then again I don't think half of the people arguing read the article.
ohwell, seriously i would rather [email protected] carry on working on my PC so i can carry on gaming :P hehe, especially as i am now about to go buy some MS points and get Gears of War :P
If i'm playing on my PS3 I don't fold, if i'm not or i'm playing the 360 I fold. These "I ONLY PLAY" comments are just plain stupid, you can't play all the time, so why not contribute.
The same can be said about the local soup kitchen, how bout getting off your A$$ and get down there. Why not contribute right?
@ ROCKWALLABY i didnt say that i game 24/7 BUT the only thing i will leave on while i am NOT at home is my PC especially as its energy efficient, its quieter then my Xbox 360 and i know that my PC is reliable. i sometimes leave my PC running 4days in a row, as i set various tasks running which take some time to complete such as [email protected], i feel soon as though i am running this program on my PC which i brought myself, and being a student i am 1 in a few that buys my own stuff, including HDTV, Xbox 360, PC etc etc. i also note that people disagreed with my comment, now i did NOT say i didnt want [email protected] on my Xbox 360 as if it was i would use that as much as i could, but i also enjoy coming home after a long day, kicking back and playing some co-op/versus games online with friends and random people. so i still stand by my coment. My Xbox 360 NEVER overheats, and i sometimes play it/leave it on for long hours. BUT i still wouldnt want it working constantly on crunching data with me NOT there with it. your comment "These "I ONLY PLAY" comments are just plain stupid, you can't play all the time, so why not contribute." i hope ISNT directed at me AS i NEVER said "I ONLY PLAY" nor never refered to my only playing, it wouldnt make sense when i use my Xbox 360 for gaming, viewing pics, listening to music (off HDD/Ipod/Computer) and also as someone else has said you can go on the web using media center (using the Xbox 360 as an extender) But as i have heard lots of people having Red Ring of Death after a year, and i have only had mine since October/November time it has yet to prove itself. also i DO contribute, soon as though this program ISNT available on the Xbox 360 i am contributing infact where i would normally turn off my computer when all my tasks are complete i now normally keep my computer on overnight, next day just to run [email protected] so dont bother coming out with such stupid comments to me as i AM doing my part. oh 1 more thing "If i'm playing on my PS3 I don't fold" hmmm i know my computer ISNT as powerfull as your PS3 but i mite be making more of an effort then you... ever thought of that? as when im on my PC i fold, when im on my Xbox 360 i fold, when im sleeping i fold, right now i AM folding!
@uxo22 "The same can be said about the local soup kitchen, how bout getting off your A$$ and get down there. Why not contribute right?" - why? are you hungry? - Some people contribute their time others their money. @gta_cb "oh 1 more thing "If i'm playing on my PS3 I don't fold" hmmm i know my computer ISNT as powerfull as your PS3 but i mite be making more of an effort then you... ever thought of that? as when im on my PC i fold, when im on my Xbox 360 i fold, when im sleeping i fold, right now i AM folding!" - I have a computer also (So my dik is bigger than yours :), which pretty much sums up this comment), it's not a hard task to leave your computer/ PS3 going. "i hope ISNT directed at me AS i NEVER said "I ONLY PLAY" nor never refered to my only playing, it wouldnt make sense when i use my Xbox 360 for gaming, viewing pics, listening to music (off HDD/Ipod/Computer) and also as someone else has said you can go on the web using media center (using the Xbox 360 as an extender)" In between the Micro$oft ad you have a point you did not say "I ONLY PLAY", I was refering to this type of response in general buy terming them "I ONLY PLAY". "...My Xbox 360 NEVER overheats, and i sometimes play it/leave it on for long hours." - Does yours have a temprature gauge? " ..BUT i still wouldnt want it working constantly on crunching data with me NOT there with it." I wouldn't do this with my 360 Either, but I feel confident that my PS3 will cope.
Just having some fun, sorry if I offended you. I understand your point man.
My ps3 killed my XB360 it was well cool my ps3 made my x box fly round my room all i can see on the x box was red lights tell me i am getting real mad But blew up cause the power of ps3 was way beyond
Why is that cool, you just lost $400.00
Could I suggest that PS3 owners take this with a bit of humility and not go overboard with this. We all pretty much knew this as Cell is something different to normal PC arcitechure. They were made to work together with clusters being compared to super computer type performance. Lets just be glad your love your PS3 and not rub it in too much please. And as an X360 owner, I wouldn't use this program anyway. No until M$ sorts out the breakdown issues. I'm not hating on the Box, but its just to unreliable to be left on for hours when you're not even gaming. Sorry but thats the way I feel, and I think the facts back me up.
yeh i agree with you i wouldnt want my 360 on for long hours when im not there incase it overheats, especially with me playing Gears of War soo... much :P
I use 2 360's as extenders in enclosed spaces. On the weekends one is on at least 10 hours either playing music and displaying pictures, or playing live or dvr'd hdtv or surfing the web(Yes the 360 can surf the web as an extender). Yes, I do go outside on the weekend,(I have outdoor speakers as well). I have been using them for over a year now with no problems. I don't disagree that there are 360's with problems out there, but the majority of them work and work well. You just have bought the FUD spread by the users on this site hook line and sinker.
I've just had 2 Xboxes die on me and we all know they aren't as reliable as they should be. I'm trying really hard to just talk about this without turning it into a flame war, so please lets not get into a back and forth thing here. For the record, I'm glad that your Xboxes are still problems free, especially with all the use you give them. I also applaude anyone participating with [email protected], and anyone knocking anyone else who does it because of their petty fanboy allegences needs to pull their head in. Goodnight, cya tommorrow.
Just because the ps3 is better at this...it doesn't mean the 360 can't do it. 360 is still a powerful 3 core PC...he said thr PS3 is 20 times better at this than a PC....I expect the 360 to be about 10times better than the average PC also. I hope it comes to the 360 soon :)
well everyone should know this as a £200 computer COULD run it, i am running [email protected] all the time my computer is on, and i am running a SINGLE core CPU and a NON SLI GPU but my computer still runs pretty well and done a 50,000 frame cycle in just over a day, and like i said mine is a SINGLE core CPU although i will be looking to upgrade to dual core soon :P so yeh with the 360 having graphics MUCH better then my computer, and having a triple core (3times better then my computer) of course it could run it
I'm really happy for them. Too bad we're forced to play games on the 360 :/ Those bastards.
360 wont help in the cure against cancer, and like i said before, this has nothing to do with GAMES.
dont want to do folding at home crap want to play games
...any good reason why this is the case actually? The CPU in xbox is a more general (PC-like) processor? Then I can understand why. Still a PC rig can fold so should a xbox be able to. Just that it will not be as good at it.
[email protected] or Mass Effect and Halo 3, hmm man that’s a hard choice to make, maybe I’ll just "fold" space in Mass Effect.
it does not matter how it does it but why you are doing it. ppl get a life.
Hyyyypooocriiite What next you gonna tell us we shouldn’t game or that its bad for us? I know what you can do call us all nerds or we can all buy bb guns and shoot our eyes out.
there's no point!
what a weak system =))
What I want to know is, if PS3 is so good at folding, why doesn't Stanford get funding to buy a heap of PS3's and dedicate them solely to folding. Wouldn't that be a a huge boost to their power? I mean $100K is pretty cheap for a super compuer.
They can do it for free through the PS3 users, and I doubt they can fit over 600,000 PS3's in their research lab.
without starting a flame war, let me say a couple things. fact: NOBODY plays their system 24 hours a day. So while i'm not playing, i run [email protected] it requires no extra effort from me, at all. i think it is a stand up thing to do. what happened to helping out humanity just for the sake of "because i can"? am i looking for an award or a medal because i [email protected], NO. BUT....somehow, someway, this turned into: ps3 sucks, online is crap, the games suck. what is wrong with you people. ill bet if your grandfather had Alzheimer's, you would wish there was a little more you could do. but instead of applauding the effort of people who help this worthy cause, you have to turn into fanboy flaming. shame on all of you for being so self centered that you feel the need to put this program down for the sake of "proving" your game system is better. This includes ps3 fanboys for putting down the 360 because it doesn't run [email protected], are you that desperat for justification? it is time for some of you people to grow up. for shame. all of you.
I'm sorry I forgot what you said, where are my keys and my wife? "jason xg1: you are exactly the person i was telling to grow up. congradulations, you proved every point that i made. thank you" Your telling me to "grow up" while using that avatar? and to top it all off you can't even take a joke, Here bro is a quarter by a sense of humor or turn your TV to comedy central once in a while and watch Carlos Mencia or Dave Chappell or watch Carlos Mencia rip off Dave Chappell.
i feel sorry for you jason, I really do.
jason, dude....you're pathetic
Here is a quote from this page. After being asked if he thought the power of the 360 could be useful, he said: "Possibly, although the cell processor in the PS3 is much more powerful for our calculations than the CPU in the Xbox 360." See how he says for our calculations, meaning that the CPU on the 360 isn't weak but just wouldn't suit the program, i wouldn't take this as any kind of indication of well anything. the 360 has 3 big core processors in it, most comps only need one for the best looking games. The PS3 has more horsepower, but has less ram and both GFX cards are pretty much the same. And hey who was the winner last generation? Cause from what i remember it wasn't the most powerful or most expensive system, it was the PS2, because the PS2 had such a great lineup of games, and this time around the 360 list of games really is like 10 times better then the first xbox.
lets not get ahead of ourselves people. yes, the ps3 can do [email protected] better than the 360...funny how sony fanboys ignore facts that the 360 is just as powerful to the ps3 when it comes to GAMING. and yes, that is a FACT from previous articles when they actually compared the processors and the graphics processors for GAMING...and if somehow sony fanboys mysteriously "forgot" about the actual comparison of the components of both systems, here is the article....read it if your hearts can handle it lol http://dpad.gotfrag.com/por... once again, yes, the ps3 is better at [email protected] due to the cell processor and the way it's architecture is setup, BUT the 360 is as powerful, if not slightly more, when it comes to GAMING...please read the articel and then come back on here with your comments....
Then explain why Rockstar says that it is making limitations Explain why kojima can't work mgs4 on it And Explain why oblivion looked better on ps3. Its supposed to be "better" right? Both are great systems but to use some link as old and November 2006, when the ps3 debuted and when nobody knew a damn thing of what it is capable of (especially to this day) is totally stupid. And what makes it even more fanboy is people sitting here on this site whining "oh well Its better at gaming not folding" just because the 360 can't fold is dumb as hell and completely fanboy. You don't know what system is better than the other but to sit there and use some homemade site, who I doubt knows the true answer since the ps3 released around the date that site's statement was made is damn dumb. You people need to really grow up with that fanboy bull. Its not that damn serious. All you and the rest of the fanboys including the ps3 ones are spinning this news in favor of your console. ps3 fans say "Folding on ps3 is better because ps3 is the better machine" 360 fans say "Well 360 is meant for gaming not folding which the 360 does better than the ps3"
You are getting too much of your news from this site.. If you go back and actually READ the articles you commented on you will see that Rockstar did not say the 360 is holding anything back, Kojima said BOTH systems have their limitations, etc etc.. Stop buying the bullshit from the comments and read and educate yourself.
It's been said for years, people: 360 is more optimized for gaming, while PS3's Cell is really meant for straight-line computing. So of course Cell is better for Folding- that's what it was designed to do. And yes, they're TOTALLY different tasks. Saying the PS3 is better at Folding is like saying PS3's an excellent drag racer, while gaming requires a rally car whose top speed is much less important than its ability to handle quick turns and difficult roads.
an origami game, the PS3 version will be that much better than 360 version. Oh well, never liked folding anyway.
@ jason xg1: you are exactly the person i was telling to grow up. congradulations, you proved every point that i made. thank you
i think that the ps3 is much more efficient at calculating, which makes it able to have better graphical capibility, and also there is more room on a blu-ray disc (50Gb) than on an h-dvd (30Gb), so there is more space to create a better game
Well you just sit there and keep waiting and waiting for a game that looks graphically superior than whats on 360 lol! Also what does disc space have to do with a game being better because I can't think of anything? [email protected] is something I would like to be a part of and really helps but honestly when the Quantum computers come out we will then start to make changes and find unimaginable cures thast make this stuff look like a joke! 360 is not inferior by any means and Sony faithfuls seem to have this constant i'm better than you are mentality which is just annoying as f%ck when both systems are so close to where we can all pretty much play the same games with equal visuals! There talking about [email protected] and you guy's keep on trying to justify your purchase but can't because there are no games to justify it with! Where does this hatred for 360 come from and why do some of you try to say anything to make it sound bad?
if they code [email protected] to take advantage of the gpus on pc's, ps3's, and 360's than they don't even need to bother with the cell.
Is there any thing else we use for flame bate?
it's funny how fanboys are each spinning this in favour of their console. "cause ps3 is so much more powerful" "cause xbox was meant for games" the creator of [email protected] is just trying to call out MS with some creative reverse psychology to try and get them to do it. the systems are pretty equally powerful, and after seeing how much effect the ps3 has had his service, he's figuring 4-5 million 360's would help out too. he's trying to get MS to "prove him wrong" wake up people...
I bet none of the flamers even read the article.
I wonder what Jack Thompson would say about this "This Game is causing kids to kill" Stops someone whispers in his ear Jack Looks Puzzled Has a Revelation gamers acutally contribute to society, not all gamers actually play GTA He then goes home to finally get a life realises he doesn't have one commits suicide
How many times are we going to have to hear about the freaking blue ray. 1. Oblivion looks better on PS3 because its a year older with better graphics 2. Rockstar said both had limitations, they knew very well before they started devloping GTA4 what the 360 had. 3. YES the PS3 is more powerful, but its not this monster with steps on the 360 and flies away on pure power alone. If we were to gauge it, it would be like 360 1.0 Power PS3 1.3 Power.
there brah, but don't you mean bluray ? :). This is not even about games, i fail to understand why many of you have turned this into which is a better gaming console. FANBOYISM WILL NOT BE TOlERATED.
CG "Guess the 360 is only built for GAMING after all....ah well all the 360 owners will just have to continue gaming while the ps3 fans enjoy [email protected]" as of right now NO! Who knows how fast that thing shortens the life of the Ps3. Talk about CPU cycles and heat. I rather be great GAMING, then FOLDING on a serious tip yall. I'm out.
i game constantly. but when i don`t game i fold. when i fold i`m on N4G. you aren`t constantly playing games or you wouldn`t be on here. i don`t know why you think ps3 owners aren`t playing games. it`s just a weird comment to make.
Who the crap cares about which is better suited for folding! Who cares which one is faster at folding! You guys completely missed the point, this is for a good cause, if people with a 360 can help out in a large or small way it better than nothing! This is about advancing our understanding of deceases that one day might kill one of use, or one of our friends or god forbid one of your relations. Who ever suckered the scientist into this debate is an idiot! The guy doesn't know crap about fanboy wars, so he wasn't trying to insult the 360, this isn't PR crap here! All of you saying I'm in it for gaming not folding! and all the other bullcrap! Grow up!
well given the large number of 360`s already available in many homes, it wouldn`t be a bad idea if they contributed & if possible the Wii too :)lol
start to come out I don't think people will be folding much. I would rather be gaming, instead of shortening the life of my console.
haha shortening the life of the console.. that is something you don't have to worry about the ps3. The 360 on the other hand, you have worry about shortening the life of the console every time you turn it on.