It's quite apparent that the Playstation 3 has had a rocky ride since its launch. Here are ten steps in which Sony could possibly learn from regarding the PS3.
It sounds like this story came from the Mart's personal blog. Just kidding.
Mentions errors that plan to be or already corrected. Just like any console, no one can get things right the first time around. You can't please everyone.
More like a hater site.
This is clearly from an xbot fanboy look at some of the complaints,
spiderman font, no HDMI cables & blu-ray. That outta tell you enough.
They can't make one half decent complaint and back it up, which tells you something about the intelligence of xbots in general!
"no one can get things right the first time around."
Isnt this the 3rd time around?
1. Who complains about the font of a system?(not me)
2.Rumble most people don't realize its gone, also its is comming if u have that problem.
3.HD cables are getting cheaper and cheaper buy the month if u have 600 bucks to spend on a HD console imp pretty sure 15 bucks for some HD cable wont break you.
4.Wii factor ( Play if for a months and its no longer fun)
5.2 Skus wasnt a good idea
6.Online,online that has been solved with home and the psn network is okay how it is now.As long as I can go online and play games thats what matters.
7.360's Perfect Dark Zero, Call of Duty 2, Kameo: Elements of Power, and Project Gotham...Only maybe COD2..yet when was Kameo anything spectacular and the crapfest called Perfect Dark.PGR was okay but just as good as full auto.
8.Blu Ray was a sound business move I dont know far as gamers go but sony has always did new formats(cd-dvd-bluray) why not try this new one with most major studio support.The bigger question is Why still to a smaller medium, then lets pull out thoes floppy disc
9.If I hear that price thing again then you must comapre wat you get vs other systems.(right)
I skipped one because who cares about that other one
This is not a problem for me. How many people have an HDMI port on their tv's? When I got the PS2 I was pissed because I had to go out and buy the RF-adapter because my tv didn't have AV jacks. Same with the PS3, if it had come with only HDMI I would have had to go out and buy the Component cables.
1.I complain about font if its a stupid font that really wasn't needed, they could have easily gone with a different font, but once you look at it, atleast for me. You think oh...its the spider man font...wow...that makes me think this system like the movie will suck...
2.Most people dont realize its gone? then why did most magazines remark on the lack of rumble when they first got their hands on a ps3?
3.Its not a matter of cheap, No wait it is if HD cables are so cheap sony could have easily included them in the box, They Ran their mouths saying Oh we are the only ones that have TRUE HIGH def, and yet dont even offer the abbility to play that High def out of the box...
4.Wii gets boring? really? i've had it for what 2-3 months now? and i've not put it down, infact it serves as my main net browser when im playing games so i can get tips and post on websites while i play, and write my reviews while i play, and write game guides at game faqs while i play....and the games, I have 4 friends whom have a wii and me being the only one with a big fat HD TV we get together and play wii play, wii sports, wario ware smoothmoves..ect its fun as hell!
you statements starting to fall apart, But never the less, Graphics, sound, do not a game make, oh maybe you young people cant live with out pretty graphics, but I remember playing card games, and D&D and a good game is a good game no matter what medium it is on, And floppies? I mean come on do you seriously believe that game markers are going to make bigger worlds with blu ray? they didn't when we upgraded from nes carts to snes carts, they didn't when we upgraded from cd's to dvds, the games stayed the same they just got better looking and with more CGI on them, Most of the games that take up half of 25 gigs on a blu ray have hours and hours and hours of cgi.
Oh and Price? what do i get? for 600 dollars I get blu ray which I dont want not only doesn't my tv support 1080p, my sound system doesn't support hdmi, Im not into movies much so HD MOVIES? who needs em DVDS are fine for me, Card reader? what gamer is really gonna use this? seriously can you tell me what gamer will ever get around to using this? I didn't even use xbox music mixer on my original xbox and it let me transfer pics from my computer.
Face it ps3 offers all this stuff that pretty much has no baring upon games, and for that the stuff will get phased out, Ps2? i link rememeber that port? it was phased out cause so lil games used it, The HDD it was phased out....
Face it the ps3 is not worth 600 dollars and thats a simple fact, And it makes me mad cause i want the system but I refuse to pay that much for a system, I just barely saved up for the 360 and wii, id take me atleast 7 months to save up for the ps3, and i could be buying games with that money.
You are so clouded by sony. You don't care what they do wrong and will defend it till the day you die. You and the other hard core sony fans may not mind getting shafted all those ways but the average not hardcore game player does not c it that way. All the crap plus a high price tag. Plenty of people felt the gameplay and graphics of the launch titles for 360 were enough of a leap to the next gen. and went with it.
The consoles crap out after 3 days LAWL!
Actually its 360 gamers play their games and then wait for repair, ps3 gamers...watch blu ray movies and hope a good game comes out for them to play....oh and they run folding...
You guys are lucky no one cares about the PS3 or this thread would be full of Sony haters bashing PS3 but you can see this is not a 60-100 post thread because no one cares about PS3 Sometimes i wish that were true in the 360's case.
why should someone be interested in bullsh!t articels, we had enough of them. we are gamers, why should we bother with this crap ? another reason is ps3 gamers play their console, xbox360 gamers wait for a repair.
Well that was...ironic POG. Very.
"but you can see this is not a 60-100 post thread" - aw damn it...it is a 60-100 post. (this last bit is not why what POG said is ironic)
I think you forgot this tag at the end of your sentence POG: </sarcasm>
Ryt so i guess thats y ur on this thread bashing the PS3 huh. U must really not give a damn. hipocrite
really people just don't let off the PS3 and 360.
I think PS3 fans have much larger hate for the 360 than 360 fans have for the PS3. Just look at the way, and what they post. They must be little kids or just very sheltered.
"I think PS3 fans have much larger hate for the 360 than 360 fans have for the PS3."
maybe trying to make that point on a negative PS3 article thread posted by an x-kiddie wasn't the best choice.
"I think PS3 fans have much larger hate for the 360 than 360 fans have for the PS3"
Dude, that's a joke right ?
Look at the average bashing and trolling in the PS3 section, and in the 360 one.
Seriously, where were you back when every news article bad or good about the PS3 was invaded by 360fanboys hating on everything Sony? The only reason why it has dramatically slowed down is soley due to the new speech bubble and report system.
You gotta be delusional to believe that PS3 fanboys are causing far more trouble on the 360 section, vs the other way around.
Actually its about even in hate, and trouble caused, it wasn't all ways that way back when the 360 first came out the sony fanboys were much worse cause you had all the ps2 generation in their as well.
this article was waste of my time... written by xbox fanboy that doesn't own a ps3
Hardly anyone owns a PS3!
I do and I like it A LOT more than the sh!t box that broke on me twice
Edit: LOL who disagreed with me? what do you disagree that I like ps3 more or that my xbox broke twice?
yep only three million gamers...
yep only three million gamers... "
I'd call them 3 million folders @ waiting beyond for gaming.
Explain to me why folding is a negative thing?
"6 - The constant putting down of the customer."
^That's worth an article by itself, and it's why I've always had a problem with Playstation. From the beginning, Sony tried to posture that it was the only kid in town and the BS steadily grew. "PS2 will deliver Toy Story graphics" set a new bar four outright lies, and Jack Tretton's "people will buy the system without games" comments are legendary for sheer lack of respect for the consumer.
Seeing people pass off disrespect from executives time after time with crap comments like "well the average consumer doesn't really listen to them" and "they're just confident" is mind-numbing. There is no other product in the world that would continue to be respected after telling its consumers lines like how they'll "...work a second job to pay for Playstation 3" and "Playstation 3 will bring discipline to our nation".
That's not confidence- it's absolute hubris.
I take that crap any day over returning a console... I think someone else is sh!tting on their customers a lot more... and don't say my xbox never broke down I had it since launch... well good for u but I had to get mine fixed twice
YOu prefer being considered as an idiot by a company that says "our hardware failure is about 3-5%" when it's clearly WAY more than that ?
And what about the crappy warranties ?
And about your quote, one is highly misinterpreted and the other one was a fake made up by kotaku.
Who approved this crap? Mart needs a few restrictions for crap like this. He is only trying to start flame wars and has no other reason to post in this section. Hey Mart is that your personal site? If not maybe you should be a staff of that site because you would get along great with them.
And there are never any articles posted that are flamebait about the 360? Someone needs to put a muzzle on the rampant PS3 fanboys just as much as the 360 ones.
um yeah, like maybe post something a little less unbiased.
btw. who is tracking me? I was just wondering.
Which is probably why it is so much fun.
But here's my take...this article did not say the PS3 was a POS, which would have warranted the majority of ardent responses above.
It said, here are some mis-steps the Sony company could have done better with. The author is right. You can love the machine and not love the marketing. The lead-up to the release of the PS3was a debacle -almost all the major press agree.
I agree with every point he made -except for the spidey font, which I think is kind of cool. I don't really see how objectively you can even argue against the points he made.
By the way, I do own a 360, and I do not think the PS3 is a POS, I think it will probably end up being fantastic. It's just that right now the 360 is owning on all fronts,(This will probably change) and this frustrates all you Sony owners who were patiently drooling while I was rockin out to kick-ass games for the past 2 years already.
Not that ironic Most of whats posted on this site are rabid resposes from Sony fans and responses to the rabid comments. Ironic is a word you shouldn't use I'm not the one finding counter news for everything good about one company or the other. Whats ironic is that Sony fans are flabbergasted over this kind of post saying things like who post this crap etc. lol
IRONY: 1. a figure of speech in which the word express a meaning that is the direct opposite of the intended meaning.
2. An outcome or events contrary to what was, or might have been expected.
3. The Incongruity of this. Add below
1. out of keeping or place
2. not harmonious in charactor
Should i go on with the meaning of harmonious?.
You're a super Sony fanboi its too late to convince people otherwise just get over it will ya!.
The attacks on the 360 with spiteful news is common amoung PS3 fans but when PS3 fans get bad news posts they are baffled about who would post such a thing!; like they have not been doing it consistantly its Ironic!.
Irony...is what I said. It's ironic that you said "360 fans dont care or post on PS3 news"...yet this was posted by themart, and within 5minutes you posted a response. That's all. You take everything as an attack POG.
And what you said is not irony. But anyway, it's not my role to give a lesson on these things...I'll leave that to that song by Alanis lol...where actually none of what she says is irony.
We still have time to reach your 60-100 posts don't we POG.
Irony is not: "It’s a traffic jam / when you’re already late" - that's just a pain in the butt.
Irony is: If you were going to give a presentation on how conjestion had been iradicated in your city, but you couldn't get to the presentation as you were in a traffic jam....that's ironic.
It is ironic that Alanis wrote a song called "Ironic" without any irony in it. lol
No POG you still don't know irony...and once again take what I say as an attack...dude. No bashing here.
Do you even know what ironic means?
[ahy-ron-ik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
1. containing or exemplifying irony: an ironic novel; an ironic remark.
3. coincidental; unexpected: It was ironic that I was seated next to my ex-husband at the dinner.
[Origin: 1620–30; < LL īrōnicus < Gk eirōnikós dissembling, insincere. See irony, -ic]
Edit: who disagreed??? that came straight out of a dictionary!
I didn't disagree...but that is a pretty poor description of Irony anyway. "unexpected"...that is not irony, that's just a modern twist on "irony".
And if you disagreed with me...then you don't know what irony is.
"Whats ironic is that Sony fans are flabbergasted over this kind of post saying things like who post this crap etc. lol "
If you think that's irony...uh. Go back to school. To all of you...there is quite a long standing joke that American's don't get irony or sarcasm...I don't agree with that generalisation, it seems to have beaten in with Morrisett's little unironic song "Ironic"....but Brittish humour is built on Irony...Southpark is actually very good at doing Irony every now and again.
This "unexpected" thing...NOT irony. Rant over. :)
Hahahaha. It's obviously POG doing the disagreeing.
Well we can try out that theory. :)
Is it POG doing the disagreeing?
Irony is 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.
You are the complete personification of what a 360 fanboy is. That means, that you are an extreme liar, an extrmem hater, and extremely jealous that you cannot afford the PS3. The 360 fanboys are in EVERY SINGLE PS3 news article ever since the conception of this website. They are the most vile and venemous fans of any console. The true gamers are Nintendo and Playstation gamers. The 360 gamers are low class, total lack of integrity kind of people. Thats why XBL is known to be a cesspool of you low class gamers. And honestly Thammer1, you are right at the top of that pile of garbage known as 360 gamers.
The PS3 is here to stay, whether you like it or not. The PS3 is breaking records, its setting new standards, its leading the way of inovativeness, its helping in Science(Gene FOlding), the PSN in its infancy is already competing with XBL.
THammer1, POG, TheMart, bladstar, TopGamer(realdeal, eliteGamer, and all of his other names on here) are all just jealous haters that just cant accept the fact that they messed up buying the 360. All of you are just xbox zobie droids.
Thank you, Sincerely,
In response to teh comments below, I didnt mean to generalize and say ALL of the gamers for teh 360, but the sad truth is, that XBL is known to be a haven for total lack of respect for the pther gamers. It has a reputation of low class people getting on there and saying whateevr they want, and just making it not fun to play online. it might be a minority, but its giving the other 360 gamers a bad name.
Also, on this site, I stand by what i say, 360 fanboys are so much on the offensive towards PS3, that they spend more time degreading PS3, and less time supporting 360.
"The true gamers are Nintendo and Playstation gamers. The 360 gamers are low class, total lack of integrity kind of people."
Ok i stopped reading that!...deary me
Thanks for insulting me as a 360 gamer who also happens to own a PS3. I take it you are a "high and mighty" PS3 "real" gamer then? If these are the kinda comments you "real" gamers have then count me out..
Sounds to me more like an angry and bitter PS3 owner.
umm have you been living under a rock? Umm all sides have some pretty stupid people. I'm not saying you are, but what about someone like ibleedblu?
"The 360 fanboys are in EVERY SINGLE PS3 news article ever since the conception of this website"
Huh, its true the other way around to buddy, maybe not you but other Nintendo and Sony fanboys do the same thing. I don't know if you noticed. Take a look at the 360 elite stories.
yeah jin.. that was uncalled for.. can't support the statements you made. It does seem to me that some fans of the 360 can be very hard headed and venemous, to call all of them low class is not correct. A lot of 360 owners are kids man.. teenagers.. they know not what they do.
I rest my case.
LOL Trash pile!?
Look JIN prove my point. I knew you would finally lash back out at me from the last time you got on the internet and cried like a baby because no one sees the world like you. DIG A HOLE B!T(#.
Your...very...bitter my friend,(Na we not cool=P) I been shutting you down for like 2 years bro. $#!T I done said before is your reality home boy. Check ya self. I would rather play PONG with DEEPBROWN than even FART under water your direction if you was droning. YOU CHUMP.
I've been saying for the last couple of years that the head honcho's at Sony deserve to be fired...
I love their hardware, but some of the things they said during the run-up to the PS3 launch, and all of the obvious opportunities they completely missed with the PSP makes me wonder if the Sony execs have any idea of what the customer wants.
The one quote that absolutely kills me to this day was when they were talking about the PSP being "The walkman of the 21'st century". They could have EASILY pulled this off, but failed miserably. Since firmware 2.0 for the PSP, they could have integrated it into the Sony Connect online music store. The PSP has built-in WiFi, 2.0 brought a browser to the mix, and think of how cool it would have been to be able to browse and download music with your PSP in ANY hotspot around the world! Instead, the consumer gets FLOODED with over-priced UMD movies...
And speaking of UMD, that MIGHT have had a chance as a portable movie format if there were any players OTHER than the PSP. They should have been putting out cheap portable UMD movie players, they should have put out UMD car stereo head units, but instead they try and rely on UMD movies to push the PSP... Well, you can see how successful that was...
I'm hoping that a lot of these stupid business decisions will cease with Kuratagi leaving Sony Computer Entertainment. He may have been the father of the Playstation, but he had NO IDEA how to run it as a business... He got lucky with the PS1 and PS2, but with the PSP and PS3 his inexperience shined through...
No one doubts that Sony miscalculated their launch but I'm tired of seeing these ridiculous 'analyses'. If you're going to rag on any console, at least have the decency to stick to useful analysis. The guy makes about three valid points (from a sales perspective) but then spends most of the article in what I assume is an attempt to get cheap laughs. The quality of gamer media is going to crap quick, no matter what console you're a fan of.
When you have so called 'contributors' posting this crap and I can't get 7 approvals (or whatever the number of approvals) for legit news/screens/info. This posting method is flawed! Post of blogs and opinions are NOT newsworthy! Listing of Top 10s are not newsworthy as they are subjective. Postings from individuals about systems they openly hate should be outlawed. You should have copy and pasted this crap and put it as part of your own 'blog' TheMart.
Except for the issue of the Font the writer got everything right.
Late release should have been in there too as it gave x360 a year head start without next gen competition and opportunity to build up its gmaes library and net service.
Hey, King....aint u a handsome fella. lol.
Hey Mart, are you an actual gamer, or a paid propagandist? I'm not asking because of your blatant anti-Sony bias. I'm asking because you seem to only post and troll the negative PS3 and 360 articles to bash PS3 and do damage control for the 360. You never have anything positive to say about anything. Is your life truly that joyless? You spend some much time here, it's hard to believe you would actually have anytime for gaming. Yes I know, some one wrote it so it news. Would it kill you to be positive for once, these are games, meant for fun.
You SOny droids are unbelievable.
This news is from Maxconsole. The things the person write sounds very fair and straight out. Every single point is about a fact.
Like HD cables: Not included. Can you argue about that? It's a LET DOWN however you put it.
Even though you can buy HDMI cables seperate. MS for example put in the HD componont cable, which also can switch to composite/scart. Giving you the option to switch out of the box between HD or CRT signal. Sony at least could have included the same (not even HDMI) to give HD out of the box.
And well the other points.. ALL TRUE. Online would blast XBL away from the launch of the PS3. Which wasn't true. We'll still have to wait and see if the promisses of Sony with Home will be true.
Thus. I have no idea why you take an article, written by somebody else, also brought to you by Maxconsole, is something that those crying dudes that bought a BluRay player are reflecting on the person that post it here.
I didn't make it up myself, although I agree on every single point, obviously there are many, many people around the world thinking like this.
It might be true dudes, although the truth is hard like always
To the poster above: how many articles have I posted today? How much time did I spend here. You know, I play games but you won't know. Because you probably don't own the best next gen gaming system out there at this moment. My friends from N4G that are on my friendslist know that I game often and could confirm that. But I have totally for the rest no reason to prove it to you. The most funny thing is: my work for a part even involves games. I just think from the bottem of my hart that the PS3 ain't the best choice for gaming this gen. It is a cheap BluRay player though, have to admit that.
THe dude below that bought 10 dollar HDMI cables...
You know using any other things than Sony brands voids the warranty right? Sure you don't have to buy licensed Sony stuff for that?
Besides that, its not about that price. It's about the experience.
When you come home, and unpack the console out of the box, it should be that you could hook everything on and could get the HD experience right out of the box.
Like also the missing of the headset with the PS3. What's that about? How are you going to communicate online?
Sony don't deliver right out of the box. Which is freakin' silly for 600 Euro/dollar. However you like to play it down it's DUMB
like as bad as ibleedblu.
Look man all you seem to do is trying to start flame wars. Its actually kind of funny you do that. And thats not casue you dissed sony. Id say the same thing about Msoft and nintendo.
And yes i want games, but it really doesn't bother me since i am enjoying my 360.
And will buy the PS3 wxt year.
"Like HD cables: Not included. Can you argue about that? It's a LET DOWN however you put it."
OMG, i had to pay $10 to get one at Monoprice. that was the biggest letdown of my entire life. alot of people are still in therapy over this one.
Mart your pulling on strings here! Complaining about HDMI cables give me a break, you think that using the spiderman font is a serious issue as well? Come on if your gonna try and bash the PS3 at least try and do it on a serious level. No article will ever be taken serious using those types of complaints, and any fanboy trying to use those same lame complaints can't be taken seriously either!
You really need to get laid! all you do is post negative news to bash Sony.Why? Is it because you're bored of your precious 360? seriously Mart get a life or a woman.Personally i think you envy PS3 owners.
I give up Mart, you win
My PS3 sucks, you've shown me the light!
I'll go trade it in right now on a 360 elite.
Damn crappy PS3, I wish it wasn't so damn quiet and reliable.
Not to mention that font is so distracting!
What was I doing? Watching spiderman?
Oh man,now I forget.
Good thing that 360 doesn't have some crazy movie font on there, now I can keep my mind on task!
Good news, good news indeed.
Now will you go away?
One can only hope.
I figure your name is Martin or Martijn or Marineedtoshutthefµckupan d-stopmakingafooloutofmyself. Keep making a fool out of yourself, you won't convince anyone if that's what you're trying to do. The only thing you'll be getting is more negative comments en less bubles. But I figure your xbot buttbudies will keep suporting you.
this dude needs to change his name as it seems people automatically think anything with that name attached is some type of anti sony thing. 1 question young man (i think). Do you not like anything about the ps3? If yes then let us know because and if you dont then you have WAY too much time on your hands. Go big ur format of choice. Im new at this but i have learnt the word troll and it sticks to your name (mart) aswell as others i see in here. At least talk sense. PS3 and Sony have made mistakes, WOW, get a real life not a VR life. Your comments wont stop people purchasing the machine bub. Put your antithreads on YouTube or something, show your face and the hate in it.
Tell me that there's actually something to what TheMart commented about. I might be wrong but it looks like he hit a sensitive spot...
Why do you care so much what people like the most?
I know you like the 360 better. I have no problem here with that!
I hope you get every thing out of it you want, but for the life of me I just can’t understand why you have a problem with someone else liking something other than the one you like?
How does that have any impact on your life?
Get over it!
No one cares that you like the 360 better and you will never change anyone’s mind. They like what they like and you day in and day out make yourself look like an immature fanboy with the Sony hate.
Seriously, you really need to find a new hobby.
You claim Mart is crazy, but you reply to every post he makes. And have an avatar of his, sounds to me like you are the obsessive one.
"Seriously, you really need to find a new hobby" -tethered
"Seriously, you really need to find a new hobby" -joemutt
You claim Mart is crazy, but you reply to every post he makes. And have an avatar of his, sounds to me like you are the obsessive one.
"Seriously, you really need to find a new hobby" -tethered
"Seriously, you really need to find a new hobby" -joemutt***
I'm just calling a fanboy out is all.
If people see me only bashing systems I don't own for no other reason that to just bash, and to get a rise out of people, I would hope someone would point it out to me too.
As far as replying to every one of his posts I would say umm, no.
I don't have enough time to do that nor do I care to reply to them.
The avatar I use is just a joke that I thinks speaks for itself.
Fanboys suck. All fanboys suck! It just so happens his avatar was the #1 fanboy avatar for me to piss on. Yours is a close second tho. lol
look sony didn't exactly do everything right, but this article did seem biased.
The price, while it is expensive the PS3 is worth more than 600 dollars. Could they have done without bluray? Maybe. If it was never introduced, i don't think we would of known any better.
And i bet themart jumped on this one kinda quick.
Knowing it came form the mart just makes me read it differently i guess.
i think they needed some type of large data storage format and blu-ray was the obvious choice. i just can't see being next-gen with DVD9. In 2 years DVD9 will not cut it. you just can't keep releasing SKUs every 1.5 years.
I agree with harpua! I wouldn't like having a console that doesn't have a nextgen storage, meaning larger storage capacity. I'd stick to my PC. It's like having CD in PS2 and Xbox. Please.
Those are all good valid reasons but I would put more attention to #7. The 360s launch line up absolutly destroys the ps3s launch lineup. We are talking one of the best in history vs one of the worst in history. The ps3 has been out for 6 months and its best game is Oblivion (14 month old game for the 360) The first 6 months of the 360 and it already had ALOT of high rated games. The ps3 only has a handful. And what are the advantages of coming out an year early??? Bigger library of games. 2007 has a HUGE list of AAA titles coming out for the 360 while the ps3 talks about folding, home, lil big planet.
GIVE ME THE GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!! not some silly virtual chat room.