A consumer bought the new elite and this is what happened when he hooked it up. He says "Sometimes it will read the disk and sometimes it doesn't. But it always sounds like a screaming banshee on crack regardless."
For the record, he should have shown the disc before he put it in the unit. It could be a badly damaged disc.
and holy lord, that was a effin burger king sneak king game disk. most of the time new or old that game rarely plays cus its a a burger king game.
oh yeah, might i add... that was SNEAK KING. lmao. lame.
if you get one and it dont work you get it replaced for 1 that works.
its no big deal.
how about going and playing gears or crackdown, motorstorm or resistance, zelda or wii sports.
actually im playing edf 2017 !
just a quick question.. even if the disc was scrathed already or damaged in some way.. should the 360 even be making that kind of noise.. i mean dang.. what is that noise coming from? If the disc is scratched and cant be read.. thats understandable, but the noise? That sounded like it was hurting the 360.
Okay, the video is suspect to say the least, along with that have you ever heard of video/audio editing. What's to say the sound was coming from the 360. At first, it sounded like the person was blowing into the mic. Why didn't they pan back so the entire process could be viewed.
Also, this same video has been used in at least 2 different post. And lastly, has anyone had a disk get scratched by the 360 while it was laying on it's side and not being moved, or had a basketball bounce off the top of the unit while the disk was spinning. I think not.
The is weak to say the least.
This is also not the same sound as a disk getting scratched. This is a more scattered and deeper sound than the scratching videos. I don't think it's related to the other scratching problems, this is a one console isolated problem.
#3.1, No it's not. It actually render through very new closer to life(tm) CG technology that uses 100 PS3 to generate such real life graphics. If you look closely, you can see the elite 360 textures still abit off. As for the sound, that's just the sound of 100 ps3 reading the disks at the same time.
I think its safe to say that the disc drive is a bad one and he should just bring it right back and get a new one.
On a side note...if that is the level of noise people are complaining about then I get where the complaints came from. I have an original launch 360...and mine is honestly quite quiet....nothing like what is on that video.
I think maybe it's haunted or something. ;)
Maybe it is possessed. I thought I heard the ghost of an Xbox 360 Preium. ("I used to be the best...I used to be the best") :~)
I put a pre scratched disc purposely in my 360 premium and funny it made the same exact sound. What you are hearing is the laser scanning back and fourth trying to read the disc. I also got the un-readable indication on my dashboard. If you own a 360 any model try this and it will duplicate the whole video. This will not damage your laser lens. And don`t ever use a disc cleaner in your 360 especially a wet one. A wet cleaner will make any present dust muddy around the laser lens and make your problems worse.
dude.. your disc drive makes that much noise when it can't read a disc... good lord.
another five elite's and going back and forth with customer service he might actually get a good one.
This happens with any product, if you search hard you'll always some that are DOA.
Also with the PS3, Wii, a HDTV, refrigirator, your girls vibrator
You get 2 years of warranty in Europe, which should be enough to have no problems with any DOA equipment.
True enough. I just don't understand why it has to be an elaborate vibrator. I was ok with the little silver bullet, but man the rabbit is huge and it girates and calls her names!
360 Elite still plagued by faults:"Several reports are coming in that the newly-released Xbox 360 Elite, which houses redesigned hardware within its slick new black casing, is still prone to break down.
The current Xbox 360 has earned itself a reputation for being unreliable, with higher-than-average numbers of consoles ceasing to function for no apparent reason. This editor is on his third 360 already."
my ass, the ps3 and wii are way more realiable than this piece of crap, and it's a fact. Are you hired by MS, or are you a sheep? Even if the 360 burns down ur house u will still say it's the best product in the world.
if they showed another video I'd at least believe there is some problem. And i will believe it if ign or someone can confirm these problems, but if he scratched the disk badly, the same thing should happen. I not entirely sure since i haven't had any problems with my 360.
Again it would make sense if 360 problems are regional, because all my friends that have 360s haven't had one problem. Even my cousin in Europe, his 360 is running fine.
At the same time, i do believe many 360s do have problems but i just take it with a grain of salt given the fact that i don't hear my friends complaining.
Who approves this crap???
One person has a problem and now it's major news!?? I guess I should of looked at the contributer of the article.. Now it makes sense.
I don't know what to really think here. Sure, it could be very true. It wouldn't suprise me.
But why didn't we see the bottom of the disk before he put it in the tray. And then why didn't he show the disk at the end of the video?
I'm just curious, thats all.
Don't think that I am totally making this out to be a hoax. These are just the questions I have.
I'm not saying this guy is not having a real problem, but we know that the Elite is a threat to allot of people. I do not expect for this type of negative news to stop in one day.
This is the same video Loot Ninja posted. Sony fanboys are trying their hardest digging up sh8T but all they can find is this one video the hole internet is useing to hate on the 360. Just sad a pathetic thousands of haters useing one video thats most likely fake I wonder what site and what name of the story will be next with the same video. Best thing to do is wait untill Xbox sites and forums start reporting wide-spread problems. FuD at its best no way in proving this is real you can make the 360 have red lights at will.
the last story with the video was misinformed. I saw nowhere in the article that confirmed red light situations. Just a possible disk reading problem.
Whcih makes me wonder, if some people are just trying to get attention, or just really hate the competition.
If you have to stoop that low just to prove a point, thats pretty sad. Whether its a PS3, 360 or a Wii.
If i hear something from a credible source though, i will believe it.
http://www.youtube.com/watc... Ok PS3 haters what can you do with this, how many ways can we use this to change popular opinion. I'v read plenty of reports of PS3 disc loaders breaking but heres what you can see. For all we know PS fans are just ashamed of spending that cash and having it break, its clear no ones bothing to hype up problems of PS3 on the Xbox side. Historicly Microsoft has always been attacked being a successful world wide company MS.
(((((Fx35))))) The link you posted is based of that same video and rumors that this thread is useing and the one Loot Ninja used.
#17 Never stoped the PS2 you also did not see Xbox owners trying to destroy PS2 becuase of Sony's problems.
How many ps3 are defective and how many 360 are defective? It's freaking clear that 360 are prone to break, as you see people yelling that they have the red lights of death all the time. It's a fact that the 360 are way more unrealiable than the ps3, stop twisting the fact.
the red blinking light means it is overheating, due to improper ventilation or broken fan (unlikely)
M$ really needs to get it's act together if it wants to remain a serious player in the gaming industry. Consoles suddenly failing is a complete joke.
I never heard a sound like that coming out of my PS3 or my Premium 360 even with a bad disc. Microsoft may have chosing a bad dvd-rom drive supplier with the Elite. If they don't fix issues like this they will loose to Sony due to bad hardware which is said because their software rocks.
the elite= DEAD ON ARRIVAL
It's stuff like this that has me thinking about trading in my 360. It is almost a year old and my co-workers is over a year old and failed last week. red circle of death. I might just take a loss and trade in for some PS3 games when more come out this summer. Customers should'nt have to worry about hardware issues when we are already paying $59.99 for games so why not get the most stable of the bunch.
HA hA Ha. There's no 65nm chip in the elites, so Microsoft will be making yet ANOTHER one for this year. I bet you it'll have built in hd dvd and built in wifi. Microsoft said they're not needed, but hey, they said the same thing about a large hard drive and hdmi ;). PS3 has all this stuff since launch, and I can easily upgrade my hard drive to any size from any brand! HOORAY FOR SONY!
it sounds like a recording of the first PC's booting up or when you place a floopy in the drive...you know, with the disk you can bend and was like a 6 x 6 square.
Jesus. It looks damn nice but all these faults ive been hearing. I love my PS3 and IMO its a better system but I was going to pick up a 360 cos some of the exclusives look pretty good. After all 360 failings i hear (and see at work)I wasnt too sure... I had hope for the elite but im not sure now, it sounds like all the same problems..
that sucks, i feel blessed that my launch console is still running strong but MS EFFED UP.. things need to change soon..
c'mon its just one unit for gods sake. if he had 20 units with the same problem then it was worth talkin about. but this is a single unit, the company cant just check them all. there exists sth called probability...just dont turn it into a anti-xbox war now
are u guys reading what u are typing lol
every1 knows that xbox360 break down - its that simple
the elite is the same as the older xbox360 - its not a new system...so y is it sooo hard to admit that the elite wont have the same problems of the millions of the old xbox360 if its the same machine??
people are stupid
one guy said oh just bring it back no big deal lol ya its a big deal - i dont know about u but when i buy something - i want it 2 work..i dont want 2 waste my time replacing it every other week
you people are gonna be soooo screwed when ur warrenty is done then what - ur gonna be welling to pay out an extra 100 bucks for repairs??
LOL!!! ill keep my PS3 which wont break down on me
MS is a software company its that simple
Sony is more hardware - so their products are built to last - everything i own from TV to cameras are all sony and i havent had one problem
id rather buy an atari b4 i even consider buying an xbox360 and the funny thing is i can almost promise u the atari is more reliable hahaha
u ppl are sooo dumb
Since now the diodes only cost 8 dollars to produce in em, Its just the way of things when things are cheaply done then you get cheap results i wont be suprized when the ps3 starts geting large amounts of problems.
P.S: the ps3 has problems now, but they are within the 3-5% industry standard of defunct units.
do i have to repeat my self? and everything i have said that has countered mostly everything you have said?
Sony is more hardware - so their products are built to last ?
If anything the PS2 might of been more likely to brake or as much as the 360.
Of course if disk reading errors start occurring in PS3s you'll automatically deny it, since you are a fanboy.
But who knows maybe the PS3 wont have a bunch of problems. Its kinda hard to tell since the PS3 hasn't been out long.
But either way you are a very sad person. Really i feel bad for you.
Really your comments show no intelligence, and frankly don't really have any merrit. And thats not because you like sony, no i like sony, but im not narrow minded. Why don't you pm me your response since you only have and used your only bubble? Hey we could even debate by pming each other. But i know you probably wont.
WilliamRLBaker you said yourself playstation is within the industry standard... where xbox is way above standard... but it's not really my problem since I traded in my xbox last month. Adn don't say one year from now ps3 will break... wait for it to break before making stupid comments like that its like me saying ur car is going to break next year just because i think mine is better. snoop... for the ps2 i had mine since 2001 and it still works never had a disc read erreor (prolly cuz i never watched DVDs with it) but that's me.. and if my ps3 last as long as my ps2 I'll be happy
Saw this vid yesterday, but didn't bother to put my headphones on. Eesh. Good thing Sony and Nintendo never put us through this crap; they actually like to sell us high-quality hardware. BTW, I can now attest that Gamecubes can survive anything, including raging girlfriends (His GC survived, but she did not).
i wish I could say the same about the 3 PS2's i went through
no i don't buy used consoles.. my launch PS2 had a bad laser, few years later i bought another one, same thing... and recently my slim ps2 broke
Mine's been working for over 6 years. I know two people that had to switch to a slimline 'cause of laser issues, but going through 3 consoles? Did you get used systems, 'cause EB accepts anything.
i went through 2 ps2s, my first one messed up bcuz i had a no solder mod installed and it caused it to over heat after 11 hours straight of metal gear solid 2 and my other ps2 still working fine for more than 6 years even tho it is modded with a whole bunch of stuff but nothing internally (mod chips), both of my ps2s were fat
Hello! It`s xbox 360 ,quit a common issue with the brand.It`s a shame microsoft hasn`t really address this issue already given the fact that they`ve had many occasions upon improving over their different hardware modules.10 million sold? come again...
seems that the xbox360 elite is the same old crap for more money. xbots sheeps will like it.
from a broken dishwashing machine or somethin'....
I feel like this was MS's 3rd launched console. We all know the 360's had issues before the Elite, I mean if they didn't change much but added 2 things it should be no different. But the exaggeration is getting out of hand.
I mean how many PS2's people went through? Give it a rest.
It's Microsoft's Second Gen console, Hardware gets better over time, just ask Nintendo. I haven't heard anything about PS3's yet but then again not many people even own them.
Too much exaggerations..trying taint a great console, and discourage Elite Gamers. No matter how much BS video I see of the 360 malfunctioning, I will still purchase one, that's what Costcos and warranties are for. Some gamers have nothing to do, waiting for Games.
I can't wait till Both consoles start bringing out the guns, then there will be less foolish fanboys on here, with nothing better to do.
The same thing over and over, day after day...oh well, this is a forum flame on.
What bothers me is the 360 gamers who have had problems with their console seem to be fine with the fact that they overheat and break down because "you just return it for a new one". Strangest thing I've ever seen, I would be pissed. And after I returned my broken 360 a second time trust me it would be the last.
I'm just baffled by the amount of loyalty you 360 gamers have for a sub standard console (not being a fanboy just speaking strictly from a hardware POV). Why aren't you more pissed or better yet moving on to a different console?
Seriously, what's up?
EDIT: Below, i think you're missing the point.
Look at the huge list for the 360. Most of these problems are fixable but M$ seems to be ignoring the problem.
The 360 problems and I stress the plural vs. what? A laser problem in the PS2? Which I'm sure they actually corrected at some point.
Lets hope M$ gets the same idea.
Well now you explain urself, instead of some fanboyish link.
Now go ask how many users went through 3+ Ps2's and ask yourself the same question you ask about 360 fans loyalty?
Now if your still baffled, All I have to say is When I had my 360, I never had issues.(purchasing an Elite) Now you can ask each individual out of 10 million why they still own one. I'm sure they will tell you because of the games, and the future generations of the console itself.
Enjoy your wait.
i went through 2 ps2s, my first one messed up bcuz i had a no solder mod installed and it caused it to over heat after 11 hours straight of metal gear solid 2 and my other ps2 still working fine for more than 6 years even tho it is modded with a whole bunch of stuff but nothing internally (mod chips), both of my ps2s are fat
its in the title ONE elite, just one, just one
i expected this much since they really didnt change anything in the console, but what shocks me is that MS got bad reviews due to break downs and yet do nothing about it with launching a new console. and lets not go into the fact that even tho they added new features they still failed with that aswell
snoop i do kinda agree with u about bleedblu, and that his post all seem sonyfan trash talk but i would have to disagree with u when u say his post are not intelligtual.
he does point out alot of facts that no matter what are true.
and about the PS2 breakdowns - all break downs would be in the standard 3-5% area. i had 2 PS2. the 1st one was my mistake and thats y it broke. i put in on the carpet and it didnt have any breathing room. so who knows how many people just dont treat their system rite.
but we all know with the xbox360 that the problem is within and the design of the actually console
rockstar - I'm just baffled by the amount of loyalty you 360 gamers have for a sub standard console (not being a fanboy just speaking strictly from a hardware POV). Why aren't you more pissed or better yet moving on to a different console?
Seriously, what's up
"I'm just baffled by the amount of loyalty you 360 gamers have for a sub standard console (not being a fanboy just speaking strictly from a hardware POV). Why aren't you more pissed or better yet moving on to a different console?"
First off the 360 is hardly substandard from a hardware perspective. Did you mean substandard manufacturing and design or do you feel its substandard because of a lack of blu-ray drive,etc? As a 360 owner I honestly have yet to feel the need to buy a PS3...and I have been enjoying gaming on my 360 for 1 1/2 years now. It is by far the best experience I have EVER had on a console and yes I owned a PS2, xbox, PS1, and sega saturn...along with this little thing called an Atari 2600...lol. Anyway, from my perspective the experience has been fantastic..and has secured my loyalty because of that.
You ask why we arent' moving on to a better console? Well, maybe its because we don't feel there is a "better" console to move on to. PS3 while fancy enough has not proved to me that it has anything to hold over the 360's software line up, and the exclusives coming to the 360 are what have me staying with it. Gears really has been just that good..Halo 3 no doubt will impress and wow. Mass Effect is the possible RPG of the year when it comes out ....and BioShock and Too Human are looming larger than ever now. Top that with Forza 2 coming next month and I am just not seeing a need to switch to a PS3....and I wont touch the Wii because I am not a fan of the wiimote, let alone the fact that the Wii is just a hair above the gamecube in power.
So yeah...I will stick to my 360.
Now thats a gamer. I've myself owned most consoles and thats exactly how I see it. Then again you forget your talking to Playstation Era only gamers, knnucle headed fanboy faithfuls that have gamed on one console since they came out the womb.
I feel the same on post #31 about all these youtube video nonsense.
Every console have had issues, Nintendo you stay out of this.
PS3shellshock was quoting my post.
I only speak of reliability not spec wise.
I also never once said a better console, i did say a different console.
And to kewlkat, in response to your "playstation era knucklehead" comment, I own every console BUT the 360. That includes the Atari 2600 all the way up the the ps3. With almost everything in between. As well as the good handhelds.
hopefully your not just a collector...
This is the problem with the youtube generation that we have become. You see it on the internet so it must be news. Someone got a defective 360 elite...OMG! Stop the press its news...make a video ...blah, blah. The Wii mote strap broke...OMG, let me take a video of my TV...its news.
Fact, this occurance is not news...random wii-mote straps breaking a tv is not news. It's a blooper at best...but its not news worthy. Nintendo making a recall of straps, or MS extending warranty's due to failure rates, or Sony recalling laptop batteries due to explosions...that is news.
This is just a reason for Fanboys to flame away. It's not news.
360 ELITE SHOULD HAVE SEEN CHANGES 65NM CHIPS INSTEAD OF 90NM HD-DVD BUILT IN QUITER DISC DRIVE AND FAN IF SONY AND NINTENDO CAN MAKE REALIABLE CONSOLES Y CAN'T MS VERY SIMPLE THEY CHOOSE NOT TO. AS LONG AS PEOPLE BUY THEM THEY WILL CHANGE NOTHING. THATS WHY BEST-BUY ALWAYS TELLS ITS CUSTOMERS BUY A 360 BETTER GET THE SERVICE PLAN. ALL PRODUCTS HAVE PROBLEMS BUT THE 360 FAILURE RATE IS TO HIGH I USE TO OWN ONE BUT GOT TIRED OF EXCHANGING IT 3+ TIMES, I HOPE MS WILL ADDRESS THIS ISSUE BUT I DOUBT THE WILL
what i meant about the design i meant on how they peice everything 2gether. if they took there time they would have solded the over heating and the scratching of disc etc that have been dooming the console
i agree that xbox360 has more games out but then again its been out for a year now
and for those people that say that the launch titles of the 360 were better - which i have to disagree..ill tell u this..the 360 is much easier to make games for every1 knows this. therefore mastering the system to get the best out of it is easier then the PS3 which we all know is much harder to dev for.
but the PS3 is only using 20% of its power.
dlacy13 you say that u have secured yourself with the 360 because of the games and experience and the exculsive titles but let me ask u this.
halo3 will be the only exculsive that has a history.
all other games are new comers...so u really cant expect greatness from it just yet. i personally looking at the reviews are not intrested in any besides gears of war...gears of war is a gorgeous game but have found it to be too short & story wasnt that great from what i read.
now PS3 exculsives are simple amazing with God of War to twisted metal to motorstorm final fantasy to MGS etc etc..all these games are million+ sellers and we can expect greatness from them.
so if that is the reason y you secured yourself to the 360 - i do believe u will be buying a PS3 at the end of the year or selling your 360 for a PS3 because the line up for PS3 just looks to damn good
I would agree that from a manufacturing standpoint the 360 is weaker in comparison to the PS3. That is Sony's place (electronic manufacturing) so I am not surprised at their superiority in this regard. As to the actual component/tech side...I think both are worthy machines.
You say the PS3 is only using 20%. Ok, fine. I will say that I haven't read anything anywhere that has stated for "fact" that either machine is using up all or partial amounts of its potential. So this to me is a moot point. I wont argue it because I dont have facts around it. Both machines are capable and putting forward better and better games imo.
You stated "halo3 will be the only exculsive that has a history.
all other games are new comers...so u really cant expect greatness from it just yet. i personally looking at the reviews are not intrested in any besides gears of war...gears of war is a gorgeous game but have found it to be too short & story wasnt that great from what i read."
My response: Gears is actually very good, and while I will say the story mode is short (8-10hr depending on skill & difficulty chosen) the online and co-op modes make the game have tremendous replay value. Halo 3 ....yes its good. As for the other "new" exclusives...honestly I LOVE that they have a bunch of "new" IP exclusives coming. I am tired of the Metal Gear series to be frank. It's a beautiful game everytime but its the same game...and the story is so over the top weird now that I just dont enjoy it. Final Fantasy I just never got into so its a non-factor. GOW I will say is one franchise sequel Sony has that does interest me. But really everything else....I just dont feel the "need" to buy a PS3 to play it. I WANTED to play Gears ever since I saw it. And when GOW3 comes...I most likely will want to play it too. Anyway...off track. Bottom line is ....having great sequels is fine and all ...but I am enjoying the "new" IP's these days much more than the "been there done that" IP's of the sequels on all platforms.
BTW....Motorstorm is a pretty game...and fun from what I hear but its a new IP not a storied franchise. And Twisted Metal? You can keep that... I never enjoyed that game at all. Great concept ....horrible control and feel imo.
No matter what you guys try you can’t make the PS3 better and you can’t convince the buyers to change there minds. So you guys need to learn your place (3rd) and realize its Xbox and Wii’s turn to shine while the PS3 enjoys last place. Do you think this will make people stop buying the 360 and buy the PS3 you guys have been trying this crap all year and it still hasn’t worked, so what makes you think all this whining and crying will now?
by the end of this console war 3rd place is going to be owned by MS due to the lack of support worldwide. You can quote me on that too.
Oh btw I own all three consoles now... love them all.
I have read a couple of posts about how many ps2's people went through. they say three... well I have had two, a launch and a slim. However, that was over a 5 yr period.... how long has the 360 been out?
Wow, they posted and approved the exact same video we saw before and of course in Sonyfanboy's mind this proves that all the 360's are crap. -Why am I not surprised? hmmm, and its hilarious reading some of the comments....
Some ask why 360 fans would stick with 360 after having a defective console, but when that same person is asked why they stuck with the PS2 after defects, they say.... "yeah and about the PS2 breakdowns - all break downs would be in the standard 3-5% area." really? and to think they had a class action lawsuit against them for the "standard" defect rate in electronics.
-Its just waaaay past fanboyism if you can't see the irony in some of these comments....all the "OMG 360's keep breaking", yet "if" we believed this video its still just ONE, as in 1 Elite, guess what I'm sure there are more broken Elites even if its far less than that majical 3-5% standard, so I wouldn't doubt to see a few legit cases mixed in with every other fanboy with who feels the need to hate on the other console because its not their favortite brand. -lol, this RE-POST of the same vid, with the same Sonyfanboys wondering in "amazement" how this could happen, just screams of desperation...-damm, I can hear them breathing hard too.
[Edit] oh BTW, I forgot to add my personal story; I've owned every console but lets just start here: 1 original xbox no problems, 3 PS2's 1 for disc drive not working, 2nd time I drop it(a few times) by mistake, 1 360 premium since launch no problems, 1 PS3 for almost 2 months no problems......what does this all mean? well uhm, hell I don't know....its just my personal experience. -Nothing really.
I agree 100%. I have had very little problems with any console... ever. In fact, my original, yes it was a launch console, NES still works to this day :).
But as you said... that means nothing, except that I am either lucky or am actually the norm.
this was a bad month on this site for MS. seems like everyday someone was digging up some kind of bad news about the 360 or MS as a company as if they were trying to paint a really bad picture about the company. is all of this an attempt to try an dampen the hype of the launch of the ELITE 360.every day in the month of april there was some kinda bad news posted about the elite. there was pics posted about the insides of the system,there was articles about MS loosing cash,they all were bad. is this not an example of some company trying to put a negative spin on the competition to kill the buzz.
I don't care if "bad news" is posted about either console, reports about M$ losing money, reports of M$ not selling well in Japan, etc. are fine as long as its accurate, you can't complain just because you may disagree with the news, my point on this particular news story is that a vid of 1 defective 360 on youtube(no matter how many times you post it) does not automatically make it valid, anyone has the ability to make put whatever they like on youtube....so we'll see if there are alot of complaints from creditable sources.
I don't understand why Microsoft didn't consider a self loading disc slot like the ps3 or wii have. Historically the disc tray is the one of the most common parts of a device to malfunction, so eliminating that risk is where the rest of the industry is heading. It certainly would have made the Elite sku more elite than the other skus.