Just how impressive are the graphics in Monster Hunter 3? Well, apparently they stunned Nintendo designers and members of the Zelda team.
They will use the TP style, so of course its harder to make it all look good for people who cry for great visuals...I still think Nintendo should have gone the Windwaker path again. Or they should have tried bring the Link to the past art into 3D. They did an awesome job on Mario galaxy, but the style differs from TP. TP didn't look bad, but it wasn't something that lasted long either. (although i like the character designs); Whatever Nintendo does, keep the Zelda greatness in tact.
It helps with immersion and makes you feel like the game you got is top quality rather than shelling out 50 euros for a crap looking game. They shouldn't even bother with graphics at all on Zelda the since they just need gameplay. As long as link has a arms,legs and a sword it's fine. /sarcasm Also I think they should go to wind waker style again. The art style was fantastic.
Im not saying they should be sh/t visuals, but there are people out there who cry due the fact there are no visuals the Ps3 and 360 provide. Windwaker visuals fit really well with the zelda universe. But i guess some people won't understand =D
What makes Zelda great is being refreshing. They shouldn't do the same thing twice, ever. New Zelda means New art style, New branch of ideas for Link's journey.
They can't go back to Windwaker style because the graphics on the Wii are technically worse than on the Gamecube, so if they did, people would be mad because they would be able to tell that the Windwaker had better graphics.
your post was a joke right? It made no sense, reading it just makes me laugh every time
Uh oh. Another "The wii graphics will blow you away promotion story..." The last one did not end well.
In fairness ,Morgan, the GFX on The Conduit would have been pretty cool if the clashing atstyle hadn't let HVS down so much, imo. The point is that MH3, from what I've seen is a really good lookking game-it isn't in the league of Uncharyed2 obviously, but Capcom have really pushed what the Wii can do with this title. Certainly, in many respects I'd put it on a near par with some earlier 360 titles and that's just about the ceiling for visuals on Wii and they should be applauded for doing so well with what they had. Having a set artstyle for MH games has probably helped them, imo, to pinpoint what they could manage to target successfully and as a result they've done a good job.
@Iamthepwn Zelda has taken the same visuals before, so the only thing that is left are the level designs and such. They are going to use the TP style again, its obvious from the one and only art released. So im not sure whats so refreshing about that? MM is basically OOT OoS/OoA is basically links awakening. PH is basically Windwaker. FourSwords gameboy uses the same art as MinishCap( and minish caps art is exactly like that from windwaker) FourSword on the GCN took the art of link to the past with more details. So whats so wrong about making another windwaker styled game? All im saying they should be more artistic than to visualize a dark muddy world.
Mastiffchild, In all fairness it is what it is. Could, shoulda woulda, if they had managed to do this or that etc etc etc doesn't amount to a hill of beans. And while The Conduit may be on par with early 360 titles, it only manages to be on par with the ugliest, most poorly generated 360 graphics. And in this modern console era that doesn't even put them in the same town where they could buy an excuse. Nintendo decided to go for their angle. Live with it. Trying to rave about graphics is as ridiculous as MS suddenly trying to be the casual console.
Zelda games that use Wind Waker's Art style: - Wind Waker - Phantom Hourglass - Minish cap - Four Swords (GBA) - Four Swords Adventure (GCN) - Spirit Tracks I loved Wind Waker, But you must understand it's style has been in 6 zelda games already. It's time to move on.
No actually what i meant with the windwaker path is the artistic style. Not go windwaker 1:1, rather that they should try something artistic like that again. Apparently the Cel-shaded visuals really fit with zelda. They should try something like that again. I wished windwaker had an actual explorable Hyrule. That would have been sick. But now they are going with the TP style, and im not saying it looked bad( crossing hyrule when the sun sets is awesome) just that it doesn't really impress as much as windwaker did. Even to this day when i play Windwaker im amazed. But going TP again is not really refreshing. Unless they make it creepy like MM again...T_T i miss that game.
For me an artstyle tromps the actual graphic prowess of most games. If I said Persona 4 looks better than Uncharted 2 I'd get slammed with disagrees, but I love the art design and character models for Persona 4 more than Uncharted 2.(Don't worry though Uncharted 2 makes me cream my pants everytime I see new videos of it.) This Monster Hunter game looks great art wise. I can't wait for this and the new Zelda game next year. My Wii will get plenty of playtime then. :)
and I thought the art style of Majora's Mask was very different the Ocarina of time, There wasn't a drastic difference, but if you look at it closer, there's a sharp difference in Textures, lightning, style, and over all art direction.
morganfell true it is what it is and MH3 is very impressive for a Wii game. Seriously how the hell do you get all those textures on a Wii game! The hub port thing is very impressive just on it's own. Capcom is the sh!t If I could speak Japanese I would be their right now working damn it! Hey but if the conduit or this game doesn't impress you them move along why even comment? You didn't see me at the killzone 2 hype thread, of did it impress me, no not really hey but what can you do? We have had all of that tech for a very long time. Yet this is good that nintendo feels the heat from 3rd parties now. The same happened on the snes some really crazy stuff came out and it is about time nintendo bought a copy of zbrush. Even though they are expanding the market once they start using these tools they will see we are not even scratching the surface at what designers can make now. Oyeah NEW zbrush comes out next month YAY! This is very good because either nintendo has to really make the next zelda some thing special; now game play wise or also up what they know about their own TEV shader system. Some thing tells me they will be calling up capcom and may offer them a sweet deal to get some info. Now wouldn't it be cool if nintendo made capcom a first party!
An art style for Zelda that is similar to the art style of Valkyria Chronicles would be pro IMO. Just less animeish.
iamtehpwn, Those games you mentioned before also had a difference in actuall ingame art.
played the game, very impressive, ya if PS2 is the only system you play that is.
you must have really played it alot... graphics are very well done and well honestly it monster hunter its all about the game play. controls are smooth and you have options to change styles. it dosent matter that its on wii one bit if you like the game. i know if you even played it you sure as hell didnt buy it or want to buy it in the first place. go play uncharted...
Yeah go and play uncharted. I mean really the PS3 is getting a price drop you need to be having a PS3 come back party! I just called every one I know that wanted one and they are still meh about it. It really is too bad the PS3 did not get this game huh? MH3 and a price drop would have been pretty sweet huh? Well since you are not a Wii fan it must suck to be you huh? Hey you can still go buy so ice cream or some thing cheer up!
some screen shots would be nice
Ask and you shall receive! http://wii.ign.com/dor/obje... lots of detail huh? Capcom made a deal with the devil I'm sure of it!
+Bubbles Scissor. I was hoping to see some screenies. I've not got a Wii, I have a PS3 and am gutted it moved to the Wii but it looks amazing! I've only played monster Hunter on the PSP but seeing some of those screens, I can only imagine how that's gonna be on a big screen! Does look Fantastic!
Lol so it looks like an xbox game? I kid I kid :)
I cant believe how much some of you rely on "realistic" graphics. I hate it when games look like real life. I play games to escape real life. As long as it has a good art direction im happy. For example, i like the way red steel 2 is shaping up to be style wise.
That is the deal though there is nothing realistic about monster hunter... it looks like a great comic about killing monsters or some thing. Realistic is more like detail that does not add anything cool to the visuals.
^ Realism is in the physics, lighting, animations, particle effects, and all that stuff too. It's not just details. It's everything.
well it not reaching the level of PS3 Graphic which is why they are not very tempting. lol just kidding it would look great for sure.
i am playing MH3 right now, the graphics are very good... i think it's the best looking game on wii right now, and it have the art desing that conduit didn't had... it's a pity i can't read japanese X_X
what about galaxy and mp3?
it is amazing how everyone loves visuals better then game. like me.
I'm not bashing, I love Zelda and I am happy enough with my Wii, but really nothing is ever going to look that great on the Wii. People will say it is underpowered or whatever, which it is in comparison to 360 and PS3, but games can still look good, but it is missing a 720p or higher resolution. That is the Wiis biggest downfall by a mile. If you took games already released like Mario Galaxy or TP and ran them in 720p or higher I would bet you they would look brilliant, just as good as many 360 or ps3 games. Nintendo used to be cutting edge with releases of Zelda, setting the standard in Graphics, pretty much on each of the consoles in each generation up until now. I am still excited about the new Zelda obviously, but its never going to be as good as it could be on the Wii. It will just be ok as far as I'm concerned. Until Nintendo have a console that can produce 720p, and something with a world that surpasses oblivion (just for size and beauty) then there is no way it is going to be ground breaking and at best only a small step forward. Nintendo even seem to be struggling to find the direction for this new Zelda. I think a good start would be to release WiiHD and simply make a breathtaking world and I think the rest would fall into place.
" 720p or higher I would bet you they would look brilliant " Disagree, The poly-faces ( as in no smooth roundings) and lots of 2D sprites ( like those flowers) become ugly on the edge. You can see this in those Emulation renders. It won't make the game "prettier", its just going to sharpen up the whole render but thats about it. Although less jaggies are welcome though ( in The conduit its really noticable.
i dont think they met there goal, it looks good but other games look better
to the person who disagreed: you think mh3 looks better than galaxy?
I think MH3 looks better than galaxy just from the release trailer. Tho it's really tough to judge just from that trailer.
If anybody's wondering what it looks like, here's the link to the new trailer
Is one of the few games that I turn on, and wonder "How gorgeous is this game going to look?" I'm not a graphics whore, and most of the time I buy a game for it's gameplay first, and admire the graphics second.. but the point is with MH, is that it's one of the few games where I disregard any graphical issues. It's by far, one of my favorite games and is just pure enjoyment.
*not wonder xD
Although I LOVE the PSP version, I really prefer to play Monster Hunter games on a console. This game looks better every single day. The PSP versions were great and they looked fantastic. I'm sure this game will live up to the well established rep of the MH franchise.
that when Miyamoto (at E3) was saying that they hadn't even started with the graphics/art style/ look of the new Zelda game yet, what he really meant was that they have now started over from scratch in that department? Hmm...
anyone who has played okami knows... graphics aren't everything if the art style is solid. Hope the zelda team can yank some inspiration from what they have seen from capcom. At least people are finally startiong to take the time to make the games that use everything the wii does. Seriously... look at okami and tell me those last gen graphics stink. I dare you. Just because it isn't the fanciest and newest doesn't mean it can't kick some arse.
I said here months ago that this is what zelda should look like, and I guess nintendo agrees, I've played an imported Demo my friend brought over and I can say this is the most beautiful game I've seen on the Wii, even better than Galaxy, too bad it was only a small demo. Nintendo better step-up cause this game and RedSteel 2 is gonna give them more of a bad rep, damn minigames...lol
I've never played a Monster Hunter game, but this seems like a must-buy for me.
Trust me you won't want to put it down after getting the hang of it. It can be really unforgiving hahaha.
Capcom did great things graphically with MHF titles on the PSP, and the upcoming WII MH game looks to impress as well. They are doing great things with the hardware that's available, and I really hope they put pressure on Nintendo to put some more effort into their own console's games. The amount of content in the MH games is enough to floor any gamer, and combining that content with great visuals and steady improvement upon past MH titles-- we're sure to have a true triple A title here. Don't thank Nintendo though.
Looks like TP with a lot more texture work. And that's a good thing. I liked WW as much as anyone, but I played TP a few nights ago, and it really does look great for what it is (especially for a GC game; the water looks fantastic). MH3 may not look totally "next gen," but it's sorta "gen-and-a-half" looking to me. Not bad at all. If this pushes the Zelda team to squeeze every last drop of power out of the Wii, all the better.
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