Side-by-side screenshot comparison of Halo 2 and Halo 3 for the Xbox 360.
IMHO -- that the beta feed was from the beta running at 480i. The interlacing is much to spaced out to be 1080i and the screen format looks 4:3 (which is typical of a SDTV not HDTV)... so, i'll wait for true HD feed from the Beta.. namely, when i'm playing it.
although, i do think it looks better... but the leap in quality cannot be judged to easily.
Man the motion shots look so bad because they are obviously both interlaced... which really goes to show you why progressive scan is better.
But this sh!t looks fvcking weak! barely better than part 2, and stop making excuses, y'all sound pathetic doing it. You pathetic sweating bastards! WEAK!!!
Part 2 looks better for its time and system. And @ "Firewire" I also liked part 1 better than part 2. I felt that part one was harder and the boards longer, and i felt like i accomplished a something after i beat the game. Part 2 while looked better, just wasnt the same to me, not bad, but just not as good to me
And P.S. y'all know this looks disappointing, dont front
Since when was Halo ever about graphics? The graphical difference between Halo 2 and 3 is much broader than the difference between Halo 1 and 2. Halo 3 looks leaps and bounds better than Halo 2. At a noob's glance, you won't be able to tell this. I played the crap out of the first two. 3 has way more detail than 2. As many people have said, Halo has its own graphical style. Why change it? It's not aiming to look like Gears of War or Crysis. If all you people care about is graphics, you should quit playing video games.
Lets wait until we can see H3 in its full finished glory in HD, then we can have side by sides like this. Otherwise we are looking at a old build of a map that will not see the light of day till the Fall. Even at that you can see its far above what H2 is but imagine it in full HD.
i agree and remember guys this is a beta, and its gameplay then graphics
Looks the same to me. Slightly better Halo 3 is than Halo 2. Not
a huge jump. The only thing extra they will have is special effects.
"Even at that you can see its far above what H2 is but imagine it in full HD."
This is exactly why I was posted comparison.
This looks great, The true test will be the final release, but you can see the little attention to detail they have paid and they will all add up to a very polished product. Can't wait!
Let's wait for a finish version. This map is not even going to be in the Beta.
Looks like they're paying more attention to the environments than anything else, good thing too, Halo2's looked like something out of GoldenEye.
Lol, its almost like the same engine as halo 2 !! Lol :D
And you know what ?! Halo 3 wont be in full HD 1080p, it will only be in 720p !!! Suxars
Pre-order now! All douche bags get 50% off! GO GO GO! You should be able to get it for free.
Quit being nine years old.
Do your parents know you're on the internet?
Seriously guys, Sashy speaks the truth.
Halo 3 looks UGLY.
Halo 2 > Halo 3
Did you know that master chief will be in Halo 3?
Oh YEAH?!? well your stupid spam! just like sashy-mc-smells-bad
I would almost rather have halo 3 running on 720p native. Not only can i not run 1080p, but the graphics would be better on 720p because there wouldn't be as much processing and graphics power wasted on the extra pixels.
just think about it.... how could there be life like images on 480i television? bigger resolutions aren't the answer.
Wargasm speaks the truth.
oh sorry you pic confused me
anyway yes it looks bad at this point, ive always thought the videos ive seen of halo 3 have looked bad
but its still early days and we just have to wait till its doen, then we can say what the games like
plus they said the graphics would be better then gears of war, so they have alot to live up to!
Is it past your bedtime? Go back to sleeping in your cot then when you are a big boy you can come and converse with the big people! Okay? Ok nighty night little one...
You are just jealous that the Xbox 360 has more exclusives than the PS3 has games.
there is no way this game will graphically beat killzone, as everybody said before they released h3 footage
beat killzone.... by the looks of these screens ill be surprised if it beats resistance.
You have seen kill zone pics? I mean real killzone pics! Do share!!! There is not a person on the whole internet that has seen these yet. You must be a very "special" person to have seen actual gameplay of killzone. I am sure you are impressive.
what are u, stupid???
Not a Halo fan after the second one , I liked the first one though . And I currently do not own a 360 but from the screeen shots, it looks like the detail is better same with the lighting. Also blue skies!
You have no idea how good Killzone will look, if you really think they will match the CGI trailer from 2005 then your an idiot. Anyways, back on to Halo 3, them pictures show how much better the lighting and textures are compared to Halo 2.
If any other Sony fanboys come in here and try to mess this news up then i will kick your ass :P seriously though, if you hate Halo or are a fanboy of Sony, PC, Nintendo etc and hate MS and 360 then please don't post in here.
who said this will beat killzone??? (bsides Xbots lol)
I don't even think this game will beat Gears Of War.
But ppl do not buy Halo because of the graphics.
I think Halo will have some of the best graphics we will have seen. That's my opinion though. I also felt that bungie did all their polishing at the last stages...unlike Factor 5 who have a robust Alpha. What do you think?
I don't think either of the first Halo games surpassed all other in graphics department. I don't know about Halo but Halo 2 was definitely outdone by Half life 2. At least this time around the environments don't look like they are just built out of square bricks.
They seems a lot more alive in H3 than in H2.
There is no way this should've been put on the front page with this title. This is just inviting a flame war, this is Halo 2 vs. Halo 3 beta.
This is a beta.. Desperate fanboys will take whatever they can get to bash the other console even if they don't make sense. I was defending Lair for the PS3 because fanboys were attacking some of it's early previews just the same. This is an Xbox article everyone who doesn't own the console should be off playing Ninja Sigma demo. =)
any1 seen any halo 2 beta pics, perhaps that would be easier to see the difference?
plus, i thought the recent video looked like it was recorded in some crap way, like a phone or something.
ah well will see the beta in HD soon....
OMG you can't believe Sony droids...
This is Halo 2 final compared to Halo 3 Beta...
Have you seen how Halo 2 Beta/Alpha looked? That looked a lot A LOT worse then Halo 1 final.
So if Halo 3 Beta/Alpha is already on par with Halo 2 final plus better lightning and even better graphics... Imagine what it'll be in final. It'll blow away anything. And it might be in 1080p
Where are Killzone 2 screenshots? Nowhere?
Let me enlightening you to software engineering cycle.
If an build reaches beta, there will be a feature freeze where no new features should be added in. The software will be tested on functionality and fixes will focus on patching the functionality. If a Beta is open to public, it mean that the software can be considered almost done. Now you know.
Because that map is not on the public beta. You don't know how bungie does things either. If bungie says this is how the game is going to look and it looks bad, then you can laugh and point.
In response to the above comment.
As a matter of fact, the map showcased in this news post is "High Ground" a map similar to Zanzibar. Figures thats why they did a comparison on them...
...not Gears of War better, much less Xbox 2 better. Xbox 1.5 FTW
By the way, quit the damage control, Xbots. If this is already a Beta, then you can't really expect too much of an upgrade. Beta is the phase of near finalization, which means that the game is pretty much done, they are simply ironing the bugs out. So, if this is the Beta, then you're screwed, fanboys.
At least you can take comfort in the fact that it'll run in 1080p.
Halo doesnt need ur words..
ppl want Halo for best multiplayer exp and improved in all sides..( graphics,weapons,gameplay,sing leplayer ) ..
for sure Halo 3 wont push 360 to the limits like Gears.. but for sure it will have the most pro online gaming around..
and Halo2 beta was better than halo1 , same as ( 3 compare to 2 )now..
and final version will be better but dont expect too much. beta version means almost done and just add features and fix bugs.. not polishing graphics so much!
yea man, i agree with this guy...i seriously do...you dont know the reason anywas
just learn to appreciate the goal of the game.
I'd just like to make a point. Halo 3 WILL push the Xbox 360's limits, just like Halo 2 did with Xbox 1. But nobody-repeat NOBODY has seen final 1080p, 60fps footage of this game. Gears of War pushes the 360's hardware to the max, and because of all the hype surrounding Halo 3, I will place my house on the fact that Bungie will deliver on what they have promised. Oh and don't forget that this is the game that is going to kick Sony's large, sweaty ass.
the screens look like crap and hope the final version will be much better. Is that so difficult?
the BETA Halo 3 shots look many times better than the impressive but lesser Halo 2 shots!
Sony fools exit here. ]}:~)>
Wow now thats over exaggerating abit man. Though I agree that there is a difference judging from these screenshot comparisons its just slightly better, however take into consideration that these were taken from the beta build so it wouldnt be fair to judge it so harshly. But then again speaking as a longtime fan of the series im alittle disappointed, however i'll reserve my judgement until a possible E3 showing of the game or sumtime closer to the release later this year.
Ive been doing some tribal celtic dragon art, which may be turned into a tatoo.... Ive built up the basic structure based on a previous design (my current lil pic)... yet i havnt finished doing the shadows or inking it yet.... its basic structure is better in everyway to my prev drawing... but since i havnt done the details yet. does that make it cr*p? mayb in my case lol.... but the point is its not finished yet
Haaaaaahahahahhahahahahahhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhaahahahahahahhhahahah ahah!!!!!
Let's move on.
I haven't seen any screen shots in high enough resolution to make any comments on how the final product will look in HD on my tv. So I will reserve my opinion on the graphics untill i see it running in HD on my tv, as should everyone else here giving opinions based on low res video and screen shots.
Dude what is going on with this world?
When the PS2 vs Xbox battle happened, the ps2 people were arguing that the ps2 is better since it has more games. The ps2 hence won. The xbox's arguement was that graphics were better on the that system.
Now the arguement has been reversed?
The 360 has the games and the ps3 has the graphics?
Make matters worse the ps3 people are waiting for Killzone 2 stating its going to look beautiful. Killzone sucked before why would they send us more? Yet now this mediocre game is going to be better cause of graphics?
Where as Halo 3 is going to be utter garbage cause of its graphics?
You guys seriously are all idiots. Graphics do not make a story. Its the story it self. By your argument 8 bit games are totally garbage since they no longer look pretty.
Get a clue and a life.
Have you ever played killzone, but the looks of it you haven't. The story of killzone was pretty good but the only thing was that it looked mediocre when compared with the Xbox.
That was because of the harware capabilties of the PS2, it's still very impresive for the PS2 but compared with Halo at that time it wasn't all that. It did get 7.5 from IGN don't forget that.
Now that the PS3 is out we will just wait and see what it is going to be. I think it's gonna blow you away. The PSP version got a 9 so why wouldn't this one be great. Halo is great too but Killzone will be better.
Those pictures are just poorly taken photos of a screen that is showing a Halo 3 beta video. There are no way we can tell how the graphics in the beta will be untill we play it ourselves. And here is an official screenshot from the Halo 3 campaign: (It's an old picture as well..)
If you knew anything about what you flame you would know the following:
The only ONLY maps they are confident that have enough polish for the public to see are the three in public beta. Frankie stated all the others were still very much being worked on. That's why the water sky and textures arn't that great. The final product will look like the Announcment trailer, and possibly better said Frankie.
Please idiots, learn a little about it then try again.
Halo 3 will be the best FPS when release.
"here is an official screenshot from the Halo 3 campaign"
where is it?
He was going to link the screen shot of masterchief with the metal backround. The shot they released a while ago, alpha graphics.
the new halo killer????? is halo 3. all the hype, all the in-your-face 360 fanboyism: for halo 2.1!!! awesome! ...just remember this when you are dogging on ps3 betas that come out, you guys will be the first jerks to comment on how graphics suck. but when it comes to your precious halo..heaven forbid we get a couple jabs in.
Don't care how good the game looks compared to Halo 2. I mean, it's like comparing Gears of War to Unreal Tournament 2004. It looks better. Oh'rly?
should think so primitively! HALO 3 is UTOPIANLY SUMPTUOUS. :)
Atm I don't really know what to think. I love Halo and think the experience is really refined for consoles. As with most people I will wait for the actual beta running on my 40" 1080p screen before I pass any judgement on the graphics.
Can't wait till it's time to finish the fight!
Halo 3 Announcement FAQ
Q: What kind of game is Halo 3?
A: Halo 3 is a story-driven action game, a first-person shooter featuring the classic gameplay you've come to expect from Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2.
Q: What systems is Halo 3 available for?
A: Halo 3 is being made for the Xbox 360.
Q: When does Halo 3 come out?
A: Halo 3 will be released at an as-yet to be announced date in 2007. The final release date will be revealed at a future time.
Q: What kind of graphics can we expect from Halo 3?
A: Halo 3's graphics will include the features seen in the real-time trailer and more, these are rendered using a new graphics engine, making the most of next-gen features like HDR (High Dynamic Range) lighting, pre-computed radiance transfer, and much, much more. The game will also take full advantage of the Xbox 360's HDTV capabilities.
Q: Did you say real-time trailer?
A: Yes. The trailer shown at E3 in 2006 was rendered in real-time using the in-game engine. All of the assets shown were running on an Xbox 360 debug kit and the trailer was built using the current engine and development tools. The development process continues and new graphics features may be added or changed at any time.
Q: Does Halo 3 support Xbox Live?
A: Yes, Halo 3 supports all major features of Xbox Live although our game-specific features have not been announced at this time.
Q: What classic Halo features will be returning in Halo 3 ?
A: We have not announced any specific gameplay features at this time.
Q: Does Halo 3 support HDTV resolutions like 720p or 1080i?
A: Halo 3 will support all of the Xbox 360's output resolutions, same as every other game.
Q: What is the plot of Halo 3?
A: The details of the plot have yet to be revealed. Suffice to say, the Chief has returned to Earth. The Covenant has uncovered a massive and ancient artifact under the African soil and Cortana is still trapped in the clutches of the Gravemind.
Q: What's new in Halo 3?
A: Beyond the continuing story and new graphics features, we have not yet revealed any details about the content of Halo 3.
Q: Is this the last ever Halo game?
A: It is the conclusion to this story arc.
Q: Does Halo 3 support downloadable content?
A: We have not yet discussed those details.
Q: What was that crazy huge dome buried under Earth?
A: We're not saying, but Halo fans may recognize something about its design.
Q: I noticed the Master Chief's armor was scraped and damaged, what happened to him?
A: Lots of things.
Q: I also noticed Master Chief's gloves had changed. Does that mean it's Mjolnir Mark VII?
A: We haven't revealed that yet . Don't jump to any conclusions.
Q: Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?
A: Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots...
Q: What about the Music in Halo 3?
A: The same team responsible for Halo's award winning music and sound design are working on Halo 3.
Q: What's up with all the trumpets?
A: Could it be triumph? Or a musical exclamation point to signal a finale? It could be all kinds of things, but Marty is really outdoing himself this time.
Q: What about the Covenant civil war? Are Elites our friends now?
A: That's plot. Unless you see something in a new trailer, or spot a clue, you're not going to get any plot until the game ships. That's how we roll. You'll just have to play and see.
Q: Will the Arbiter be back?
A: See above.
Q: I spotted an Easter Egg in the trailer after I watched it a few times. How do you explain that?
A: The New Mombasa City Council had an incredibly efficient public works department until and even during the tragic and devastating Covenant invasion.
Halo 3 Announced
Bungie announces Halo 3, the third and final game in the Halo Trilogy. Halo 3 will be released for Microsoft's Xbox 360 in 2007.
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The game was revealed to the world at the Microsoft press conference at Grauman's Chinese Theater, in Hollywood, CA . By the time you read this, the announcement trailer should be available for download on bungie.net and directly to your Xbox 360, in full HD glory from Xbox Live Marketplace. Read no further if you want to avoid spoilers.
Nobody saw it coming. Halo 3! Who knew? For the last year or two, people have speculated about what our next project was and surprisingly, in all that time, not a single person guessed that it would be Halo 3. Not one .
We declare it the best kept secret ever .
Seriously though, it's been a chore biting our tongues on this one. Call it a combination of studio secrecy, corporate secrecy, Bill Gates already announcing it four times and, you know, whatever.
We won't ruin the content of our short presentation by describing it frame by frame, but we will note that everything you're seeing here is being rendered in real-time on the Xbox 360, using the current version of our Halo 3 game engine. The HDR lighting, self-shadowing, GPU-run particle system and many other effects should make it intact (and more) to our final game.
"The trailer was built to have minimum impact on the development process"
We demonstrated the real-time nature of the demo after the press conference (thanks to our friends at Pioneer with awesome audio-video assistance) to a small group of reporters, so we'll wait and see what their judgment on the presentation was, but you should feel free to make your own.
The trailer was built to have minimum impact on the development process, and while it required long hours and hard work from many, many Bungie staffers, it utilizes real-game assets, fiction and locations from parts of the "real" game.
In fact, it's the stuff it doesn't contain that gives it a strange kind of context. You can see how detailed the Chief is, but that detail applies to our other, unseen, unrevealed characters, vehicles, environment and so on. There's no AI visible in the demo, no multiplayer, and the entire thing has been left deliberately subdued both to give scale to the artifact and because this is our announcement. The real stuff will come later.
Fans of Halo fiction will be able to guess at a vast array of possibilities, even from this short piece, and discuss them in our newly launched Halo 3 Forum . For those new to the series, we'll make every effort to bring you up to speed on the story in forthcoming Bungie.net updates. We'll also be resurrecting the true purpose of the Update-proper - a weekly diary on the progress of the game that has been stymied recently, by the absence of (reveal-able) information.
Of course the trailer itself is a teaser - with no multiplayer, a single Earth-based locale, none of our sweet new AI or gameplay technologies. No physics to speak of, no new features other than a sneak peek at the graphics and audio engines…but the other stuff is there, and we'll reveal more as time goes on.
"Cortana and the Chief being a galaxy apart is a situation we haven't seen before"
CJ Cowan, Bungie's director of cinematics discussed one of the most startling moments in the piece, the return of Cortana, "Given the variety of character and story arcs at the end of Halo 2, we wanted to boil down our announcement to a few key threads. Cortana and the Chief being a galaxy apart is a situation we haven't seen before, and is something that is a powerful component to Halo 3. We are using her transmissions in the demo to give the viewer a few subtle clues to her situation and state of mind, without revealing any specifics we want to save for the game itself."
The Cortana reveal is the first evidence that this trailer might be for Halo 3, but the game's main protagonist is the item that seals that deal. CJ explains, "It is the Chief, back on a devastated and Covenant controlled Earth, standing over the excavation of a structure buried in the crust of our own planet that is the meat of our demo."
"The questions raised by these images, and the feeling that our assumptions about the Halo universe are being challenged this late in the story is what I am personally most excited about leaving with our fans. That's the type of thing that builds anticipation even more for the payoff to this trilogy we are preparing."
CJ's long nights are far from over. Cinematics are going to be as vital a part of Halo 3 as they were in Halo 2 and Halo: Combat Evolved. As before, they will use the game engine to keep the player feeling like a part of the action.
"There is a glorious, ancient artifact buried under the Earth’s crust "
Graphically, the game follows closely in the tradition of Halo 2, although obviously upgraded to take advantage of the Xbox 360's more prodigious visual abilities. As art director Marcus Lehto explains, "It was intended to be an understated announce of Halo 3 - the tone is that of mystery and suspense – the calm before the storm. I wanted to make sure that we re-introduced the Chief, show that Earth is thoroughly conquered, with Covenant everywhere, and that there is a glorious, ancient artifact buried under the Earth’s crust which will provide H3 with the epic journey which we all want."
Asked about the battered state of the Chief's armor, Marcus ventured, "The Chief is shown as warrior who has seen horrific battle – and it shows. The Earth is dry, barren, ravaged by the Covenant."
Grim stuff, but then things were grim at the end of Halo 2 when we left the Chief and the fate of the galaxy hanging in the balance. A cliffhanger about which we received over twenty emails... cough.
Marty O'Donnell's music will no doubt be heard over and over again. We can relate. The Studio has been thundering with the brass and bass of the trailer music for weeks .
Marty hired a 60 piece orchestra and a 24 piece choir to record the trailer music. "I want the viewer to have a feeling of anticipation and wonder for the first fifty seconds or so, up until Master Chief is revealed and they realize that it’s Cortana trying to tell them something," he says.
Marty's music was designed from the ground up to lull the listener into a sense of doubt, then wonder. "I want them to feel pride and longing the moment Master Chief walks out of the smoke," says Marty. "I want them to get excited and perhaps even froth at the mouth when they see the Covenant Capital ship and then the incredible buried artifact. I want them to be left with that, ' I can hardly wait to play this game' feeling by the end with a slight, 'I wonder what she meant by that' aftertaste."
"I want there to be no doubt in anyone’s mind when it is the right moment to applaud and scream. I hope they do, anyway."
As to the unmistakable new trumpety note, Marty is perfectly blunt. "The first time the world sees this trailer is at a live Microsoft press event in the Chinese Theater in LA. It is the first time we announce officially that Bungie is making Halo 3. My thought is that since it is an announcement event that is full of pomp and gravity, music will contain a fanfare and be somewhat over the top. I want there to be no doubt in anyone’s mind when it is the right moment to applaud and scream. I hope they do, anyway."
And we hope you enjoy it too. We'll keep you posted on more developments as the game progresses and look forward to more Halo 3 related goodies in the near future.
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Just like forza 2 when it comes out it will blow every single racer out there.
its not HAlO3 fault .. Halo world isnt nice like uncharted!..
and Halo3 LOW RES screens are really nice , improved details and lighting and looks far more realistic than Halo2.. I think its final version ..and it will looks nice in HD..
believe me these screens are Awesome imo . :P
and DONT COMPARE KILLZONE 2 and Halo3 ... killzone will have full ***DISTRUCTIBLE*** World ,incredible physics and lighting ... and Killzone developers concentrate on Graphics and visuals not Multiplayer (perhaps yes!) and for sure both dev will do that well ..
May as well can it.
Need I say more?
You've just given up havent you?
Its the BETA. Its not Halo 3 as we will know it. Its a BETA.
Sing with me now:
Its a BEEEEEETA.
Its a BETABETABETABETA-BETABETABETA
watch when the final version is shown.
i'd rather play a great game with stick figure graphics than a crappy game with amazing graphics.
that being said, I think the graphics look great, especially at this point in time.
I think the halo 3 screens look fine. In its final release, I do believe that halo 3 will look better; however, I do question how much better it will look. I think there will be a difference but it will not be gargantuan. Most games I've seen--Metal Gear 4, DMC4 (xbox and ps3), Ninja Gaiden Sigma look great now, regardless of development stage. I know Halo will polish up, but i am surprised the game doesn't look better; however, i think this could actually be microsoft's strategy. Lately, many games that have come out have failed to completely live up to their ambitious screenshots. I think microsoft may be waiting till release to really give everyone a treat. It's always better to be surprised than disapointed.