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"On paper the PlayStation 3 offers by far and away the superior online experience in the console market, so why then do the figures suggest that in reality, it is coming a distant second to Xbox Live?" - gameplayer

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KionicWarlord2222959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

oh no....

The horror begins.

Let`s all be happy.

look there both great services.

Psn
Lobbies/Matchmaking for instant online gaming
Scores/Ranking for player comparison
Trophies rewarded for achieving goals in certain games
Virtual presence/Avatars
Friend List allowing for up to 100 players
Voice/Video Chat/Cross Game Text Chat (Bluetooth/USB Headset or PlayStation Eye, or an Eye Toy required. Video chat only requires a webcam as the cams have microphones built in. Text Chat can be used in game).
Instant messaging integration
Internet Browser and Google search engine
PlayStation Home
Life With PlayStation
adhoc Party for PlayStation Portable (Japan only)PlayStation Store
Qore (North America only)
OPMHD (Europe only)
VidZone (Europe & Australia only)User Registration of Master/Sub accounts
Login ID/Handlename/Profiles
Portable ID, a user profile card similar in concept to a Gamercard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... live

Xbox live

Current features
Mottos for display on gamer profiles
Game achievements, which are earned during gameplay
Reputation rating which is voted on by other players who decide to either prefer or avoid another player. The reputation defaults to 100% (Five stars) over time after one player has preferred you.
Gamerscores, which are a total of a player's achievement points
Friends list, which is a list of a player's chosen friends, up to 100 friends allowed
Recent player list, which lists the last 50 players a user has played with
Complaint filing system, which allows a user to report another user that has broken the Xbox Live Terms of Use
Windows Live messenger integration
Access to Xbox Live Marketplace content, including new game content, games and movies
Voice Chat (wireless or wired headset required, Xbox Live Silver members are limited to two-player voice chat, while 3+ player voice chat has been implemented for Gold members with the New Xbox Experience)
Video Chat (Live Vision camera required, with headset optional for chatting)
Multiplayer gameplay, where a user can link up 4 Xbox's to play together (known as system link), or connect online (Online requires Xbox Live Gold)
Enhanced matchmaking using cumulative gamerscore, reputation, location/language profile, and gamer zone
Bio section in which one can list personal interests, URLs, etc.
Parental controls, limiting children's exposure to other users ("Family Settings")
Inside Xbox is a newsletter about Xbox Live news, events, products, interviews and games that is integrated in the Xbox 360 Dashboard. Content for Inside Xbox is created by the Xbox global marketing team and features streaming video segments "Pick Up and Play", "Major’s Minute" with Larry Hryb and "Game with Fame".
Upcoming features
Social networking sites Facebook and Twitter will be accessible over Xbox Live.
Last.fm will allow users to stream music and radio content through their Xbox 360.
Sky TV (UK and Ireland only) will allow users to access premium Sky TV content and watch live TV through their Xbox 360.
Instant-on 1080p HD movies with 5.1 surround sound will allow users to stream movies from the Zune Marketplace (formerly the Xbox Live Video Marketplace) or Netflix instantly with no delay.
Movie Parties allow for movies and TV shows to be viewable with friends over Xbox Live.
Avatar Marketplace will offer premium items, interactive props and game styles for Avatars.
Music Store offers content especially for music-orientated games such as Rock Band, Guitar Hero and Lips.
Games on Demand offers a selected catalogue of Xbox 360 video games that will be available for download over Xbox Live, utilising real world currency as opposed to Microsoft Points.

GiantEnemyCrab2959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

Yikes that PSN list is weak.

"Lobbies/Matchmaking for instant online gaming
Scores/Ranking for player comparison "

Those are benefits? I don't think you can even have a functioning online service without those.. LOL

No mention of Trueskill ranking on XBL?

Dunno where you cut and paste that from but it's lacking bro.

Sucks2BU2959d ago

I don't think the article is about a epeen comp: it is actually analyzing the figures and suggesting paths for improvement.

Kamikaze1352959d ago

It's alright though. As superior as some people may feel LIVE is, I never pay for it and stick with PSN =D

KionicWarlord2222959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

It`s from the wiki...you know...usually doesn't have everything on there.

Sorry..

lloyd_wonder2959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

The problem with Live is that it's like paying for cable. You pay for all these features and use two or three at most. Not to say it's not a good service.

The reality is that both PSN and Live are quite similar with similar and different offerings. I'd say having a web browser integrated into your console is a big plus for any gamer. Like for example, when I'm looking for all the bobble heads in Fallout 3 for that Gold trophy I can easily look online for a quick IGN guide and hop right back into game. I can also look for quick news updates on N4G, go to Youtube to watch a music video, or post on Twitter. All without having to exit your console experience.

PlayStation Home will be big once they integrate more community features for connecting with friends. Blu-Ray is also another great feature if you want to boast about watching movies, or buying full movies from the PlayStation Store -- something you can't do on Live. Let's not get into the advantages of the PS3 as a media hub...

Live has some nice features like Party chat, some minor community features, and Netflix, but that's about it. imo. Just like Blu-Ray or a web browser are the missing links to Live. Last FM is good too, but you can't use it while in- game, essentially eliminating it as an effective community feature for gamers.

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poindat2959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

Can I play online? If the answer is yes, then I'm happy!

Really now, I don't even use many of PSN's features, so what advantages does Live offer someone like me who doesn't use any of those extra features and just likes to load up a game and play?

(That was a serious question)

Stevie Ray Vaughan2959d ago

The truth is no fun. Xbox Live does and will always kill PSN. Get used to it.

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ULTIMATE_REVENGE2959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

PS3:

You forgot to mention the XMB interface which is integrated within the features to make for a far more flaunt and enjoyable experience. Also being a Technical Award based interface is a granted advantage

You forgot to mention Recent player list, which lists over 100 players during your time online gaming against others

You forgot to mention having Access to Playstation Store which includes new game content, games, demo's, viewable HD 720p/1080p trailers with 7.1 surround sound, Themese, Wallpapers and Classic PS1 Games all categorised and laid out in a appealing interface

You forgot to mention the Parental controls accessable via the Internet Browser which limits children's exposure to indecent material and also protects from harmful Virus.

UnSelf2959d ago

Cuz the only paper Microsoft uses is green

and sadly its the only kind it accepts

Blaze9292959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

lol wut? Someone must've been high...or drunk....or both

JL2959d ago

I'm with you man. Even PSN offers more options/features than I ever even begin to consider using. All this bickering and flaming about extra lil fluff features is just beyond me. There are things I've heard people claim are "ESSENTIAL" (usually something live has that psn doesn't) that I just sit there and think "What in the world would I ever use that for". I'm of the same frame of mind: as long as I can connect and play a game with a community of people (doesn't even have to be thousands upon thousands upon thousands, like some use as proof of "dominance") then I'm fine. That's all I can ever ask for, and all I ever will. I'm more of a single-player gamer anyways, just like to jump online once in a while for stuff like SOCOM or maybe a sports/fighting game from time to time. And I have NEVER had a problem whatsoever doing any of this efficiently and easily on PSN (or if I have it wasn't a fault of PSN, more the game or the developers).

Arnon2959d ago

XBL has been doing that since the launch of the 360. So I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to get at here.

DMason2959d ago

I lol'ed at this quote: "the PlayStation 3 offers by far and away the superior online experience in the console market"

JL2959d ago

lol What's there to disagree with in my above comment? Somebody beg to differ and say that I do use all of the features that PSN offers me? Or maybe one of you thinks I'm lying when I say I have no use for some of these "essential" features that PSN is always ridiculed for missing? Or maybe someone disagrees that I am content with being able to just simply get online and play a quick round or something without the need for all the "fluff" that evidently so many of you need? No, wait, I know what it is. Someone here would beg to differ and assume to tell me what I like and say that I'm wrong when I admit to being a mainly single-player gamer and that's more my preference, with the occasional online match here and there, huh? lol You people are good entertainment, will give you that.

MazzingerZ2959d ago (Edited 2959d ago )

but instead of listing what you missed it's easier to list what XBL has that PSN doesn't...the only features that have to do with gaming are the last ones and really the only advantages (and great featurse) XBL has over PSN, the rest is nothing I care about, when I bought the console I bought it for gaming and nothing else...I can do without the XBL party stuff...we have yet to see how those coming features will work...will the XBL party for movies allow me to watch a film with my buddy without me having a NetFix account? all the way from Europe to the US?

Reputation rating which is voted on by other players who decide to either prefer or avoid another player. The reputation defaults to 100% (Five stars) over time after one player has preferred you.

Complaint filing system, which allows a user to report another user that has broken the Xbox Live Terms of Use.
Windows Live messenger integration.
Bio section in which one can list personal interests, URLs, etc.
Social networking sites Facebook and Twitter will be accessible over Xbox Live.
Last.fm will allow users to stream music and radio content through their Xbox 360.
Sky TV (UK and Ireland only) will allow users to access premium Sky TV content and watch live TV through their Xbox 360.
Instant-on 1080p HD movies with 5.1 surround sound will allow users to stream movies from the Zune.
Movie Parties allow for movies and TV shows to be viewable with friends over Xbox Live.
Avatar Marketplace will offer premium items, interactive props and game styles for Avatars.
Cross-game voice chat and game invites.
XBL Party

Syronicus2959d ago

Let me ask you this...

Does Xbox Live let you play online?
Does the PSN let you play online?

That is the single feature I need so that I can play the game I paid 60 bucks for online with my buddies.

Now, which of these two is free?

Live is great for those that "need" all those extra features but me, I need only one thing. I need to play online and since both services let me do that it all comes down to price.

JL2959d ago

Couldn't agree with you more, Syronicus. Plain and simple that is basically the only purpose of either system: to let you play games online. And since I can do that for free on PS3, I'd never even consider paying for it on 360. Hell I'd never even consider paying for it if both of them charged, I just wouldn't play online. I honestly just don't see the big deal is with all these superfluous features.

Syronicus2959d ago

Exactly. I too would drop support for PSN if I had to pay for it and would go back tot he free online play on my PC. I supported Live for a couple years and found that after the initial feeling of how it was something new and cool to do on my console that it was just not worth the money and since the PC and PSN were free to use, they were and are the better choice - for me.

People can say all they want that Live costs so little and that I should skip out on that #1 Value Meal at Mickey-D's but when there are other services out there that allow me to do what I want and do it for free, I will eat that Value Meal and play online at the same time. Why should I sacrifice when there is an obvious choice to be made? I will have my big mac and eat it too!

talltony2959d ago

And it is exactly the same as the 360 version. Send game invites and join up in your squad and keep moving from match to match in the same squad. In reality PSN really is not trailing that far behind live, that is just b.s. dont forget psn is free and that really makes the difference.

Anon19742959d ago

The article mentions that 485 million bits of content has been downloaded by PS3 users and 1 billion bits of content by 360 users in it's lifetime.

That's a completely meaningless comparison. Throwing in "active accounts" doesn't prove anything because the services differ greatly and there's plenty of active but duplicate accounts out there. I personally have an active account and my wife has an account, as I'm sure in different households each kid is going to have a different account - that's why there's more accounts than PS3's out there. Obviously only one account is going to be buying content.

To get a true sense of how the services compare, shouldn't we look at the services at the same point in each services lifespan? Wouldn't that make more sense to see how the PSN was doing at the 2 1/2 year mark vs how XBL was doing at the 2 1/2 year mark - instead of PSN numbers at 2 1/2 years vs XBL at 4 years?

It takes time for the networks to build momentum and to build up the content available, so obviously 2 1/2 year numbers aren't going to match 4 year numbers. How can this article ignore so basic a concept?

DarkAzureIIIX2958d ago

also on the PSN that you forgot:
-Recent player list, which lists the lasts players a user has played with and the game title
-Bio section in which one can list personal interests, URLs, etc.
-Parental controls, limiting children's exposure to other users ("Family Settings")
- News ticker
- remote play/view Game/movies on PSP
- Share PSN games/movies upto 3 consoles.
- Photo gallery can replace wallpaper as slideshow(not in game)
Upcoming features
-using home as the lobby for some game. to plan out battles and setup teams. (you can already launch in to some games)

Daoshai2958d ago (Edited 2958d ago )

Lol, Where do you get a year and a half?

In truth, it wasn't even a full year in difference between the 360 and ps3 launches (though it was close). Now your making it a year and a half, haha. Next I'm gonna see you saying 2 years.

likedamaster2958d ago

The majority of us lol'ed.

YogiBear2958d ago

no i did not lol. i nodded in agreement.

Jack Klugman2958d ago

"The truth is no fun. Xbox Live does and will always kill PSN. Get used to it. "

that wont stop the denial and ignorance unfortunately.

Poopface the 2nd2958d ago (Edited 2958d ago )

for me I say, if they were both free Id say live would be better. Now I have to look at the price of LIVE and see if im willing to pay 3-4 dollars a month. I am, so Id say live is better for me. I can see how people would disagree and say that PSN is better simply because it is free. I see their point too.

I can see both sides to the argument.

It is funny to see the ps3 fanboys rag on people and call them poor and suggest that the reason they have no ps3 is the money, but the next article they will talk about how much more expensive every useless add on for 360 is and that live is a rip off.

LIve is like dunkin donuts coffee, and PSN is the free coffee you get at church. Which is better?? Depends on what your tastes are, and how much of a value you place on the fact that one is free. Some swear DD coffe is great, others cant taste the difference, some think the free coffee tastes better. Some dont think coffee is worth any money at all cause they dont like it.

At the end of the day LIVE is a service and its your choice to pay or not. We make decisions every day whether something is worth our money or not, why is it a huge deal that people are willing to pay for live??
I for one, dont mind paying because I truly believe that paying for LIVE has helped improve the service. I can tell that live right now is better than LIVE a year ago.

Being upset at people for paying for live is like being mad at someone who pays extra for a DVR or extra channels. MAybe you dont value it but others do. What if I think TV isnt worth it? Does that make you a moron if you have cable? does it make me a moron for not liking TV? NO

Should we attack people who pay for MMOs, call them stupid for paying 120$ a year to play JUST ONE GAME ONLINE. NO, because they place value in it and its their money. Even though I would never pay for a MMO I understand taht some get alot of enjoyment out of it, and honestly I dont give a rats ass how other people spend their money. And If you care about how others spend their money, then you need to get a life.

EDIT-- also I must add that no matter which service is better I dont think it matters as the Wii is trouncing both systems as far as sales go. I think we can all agree that the wii has a horrible online system, and yet ohh so many people dont care?? strange huh.

Rainstorm812958d ago (Edited 2958d ago )

XBL started - 2002

PSN started - 2006

PSN has made great leaps and bounds in its short time out. Who knows what it will look like once it reaches the same age as XBL.

Thats right XBL started on the original xbox for the fanboys that dont know. PSN started on PS3.

randomwiz2958d ago

gameplayer.au
no bias
no bull

"Despite being clunky and ugly, the Xbox 360 dashboard... The PSN on the other hand feels cold and desolate and on face value is more complicated to operate... Sony would do well to bite the bullet and to do some copy and pasting."

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Lfmesquite2959d ago

Yeah sure, key word "ACTIVE", whatever you say. blah, blah, blah

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RememberThe3572959d ago

This article blows...

Flame bait at its best.

Sucks2BU2959d ago

The article is simply comparing the facts listed by the two companies themselves.

It would seem to me to be quite a good analysis of the two services. It takes a shot at neither of them and actually shows how both are quite good, only suggesting that Sony needs to sharpen their direction a little to begin making inroads.

While I am sure there will be users here who turn it into flameage, the article itself is quite level headed I thought.

The Lazy One2959d ago

facts like "On paper the PlayStation 3 offers by far and away the superior online experience in the console market" and "Unfortunately a large part of what’s wrong comes down to design. Despite being clunky and ugly, the Xbox 360 dashboard and user interface is still warm and accepting, as well as easy to navigate." really aren't flamebait.

No mention of the fact that PSN users span 3 platforms and there's no limit to the number of accounts any one user can have.

The bias in this article is horrible.