With news that Microsoft may be releasing a new Xbox in 2010/2011, Terminal Gamer takes a look at what is wrong with the 360 and what Microsoft can do to make the new Xbox a superior system.
.........10 pages later "Yeah lets just give up on the 360" Edit (oh and i did read the article and agreed wid it - just game 4 a laugh)
Glad to hear you agreed with it - and the 360s problems are always good for a laugh. A maniacal laugh. Seriously, it has problems.
Makin Xbl free will also make it that bit harder 4 the competition Im happy wid me Ps3 no need 4me 2 jump ship - its just bit of a shame 2 all those gamers out there that hav been let down by there console of choice due 2 POOR hardware I honestly DONT c Ms makin the same mistakes again i hated it when i was a kid and my Ps1 exploded (not literally) i think that was around the time i started smokin pot
Will you also write a "How Sony Can Make Their Next PS3 Better" article? Just curious.
There you go again with your "fair and balanced" nonsense. You disgust me!
Make it reliable and make the online free. Boom! You got a box that rox. I see they have been improving its reliability but they got to hit that Live fee and get on board with the free gaming online. ---> IMHO of course.
I'm sure they learned their lesson. They WILL make it more reliable.
let's hope they do because if they dont the outrage will be BIG!
I certainly hope they do. I want to be there at launch to pick up the next Xbox but have to admit that after 5 of these 360's I am a bit sceptical. It's never fun to have a defunct console.
Lets hope they did randomwiz but I think you'll find that M$ might be in that "Why fix something no one is complaining about because they still buy anything we put out" attitude. I really hope they put allot of time in R&D before releasing the next Xbox system and allot less time worrying about when Sony or Nintendo is releasing there's, being the 1st one out to the market doesn't always mean it's the right thing to do.
Add Blu-ray and make hard drives a standard. So make a PS3 basically. Why do so many people say they don't want the system if they want everything that is made of. Get a PS3 and save yourself the complaints.
Thats number 1, charge for extra features but just let people play games online free. Actually reliability IS number 1. On another note unless the economy changes, 2010 wont be the year of a new Xbox. I know die hard xbox gamers who are not ready to go plop down another 400 or so bucks on a new console. Im sure the die hard xbox fanboys will disagree but if the PS3 is expensive at 400 then we are not ready for a new console launch. Especially a year after the launch of NATAL. If NATAL is a t best 100 dollars, then a year later new console time at 400 bucks i doubt it.
Well since I am a graphics whore, I would love to see the next Xbox have at least 6 gigs of RAM and a powerful video card to enable games to be developed at a native 1920 x 1080p. The up-scaled stuff now is "just ok" but I think graphically, games would be taking to the next level just with that. Just imagine what Gears of War 3 would look like at native 1920 x 1080p!!!!!
Isn't full 1080p a little too wide? Wouldn't that mean you'd have black bars at the top and bottom of the TV? I'd prefer to have 1080p where the image fills the screen TBH. edit: seems I was wrong lol. Someone mentioned the difference between 1080p and Full HD before and the image seemed much wider than 1080p. I guess I got confused. edit2: does anyone know what the actual resolutions are for 1080p and Full 1080p? I'm a little confused about the whole thing :S edit3: well maybe not 1080p since we all know that one lol edit4: ThanatosDMC I agree with you but what's that vid got to do with it?
30 million people basicly told them rushing out a console is alright, fix it 10 times and we will still love you MS... This is the exact reason why I will never buy a 360, it's like bending over your customer values and let MS in for a ride. As long as people support such a sorry excuse of hardware manufacturing, they see no reason to fix it, why do you think it took them 3 years to take on the RROD (Not including the other flaws the hardware has)? (To my knowledge it still isn't fixed) They don't care, people buy the 360 regardles. Many people even own two 360s just to have a bridge system until the other one is back from repairs. And now we have people who just can't figure out why people hate MS so much. Google Windows 95, 98, ME and see for yourself where the hate train took off, took a stop at XP, then took off again with Vista and the 360. That said I wouldn't buy something as simple as a toaster for 20 euros with 33% failure rate, even if it would have a 5 year warranty, let alone a console for 300 euros (Who would want the arcade?).
I agree. I wish my Bluray movies fill the whole screen. I hate the black bars. Zoom and whatever other function clips the movie though, which sucks. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
but i know people who have...some thorough testing should be done first me thinks. second, i dont want sh!tty motion controls to take priority ove the more hardcore games! and thats something i dont want sony to do either. imo, if microsoft come to the market first with a console thats powerful, caters for the hardcore and has motion support like the wii. then i think it will be a bloodbath! and microsoft will dominate the next-gen with a console like that. but so could sony if they had the same thing....next-gen, i truely believe it will be all about getting to the market first. oh by the way, i just paid for another year of live today no problem. i have a ps3 which i play on-line. the psn is good for something thats free without a doubt! but it aint as good as live! i aint interested in fanboy flamewar thats took place in the thread thats hovering at the top of the page. i paid 33 euros for 12months on ebay(roughly $33 or £28), and it is well worth the money. if you disagree, or think that the psn is better or equal, thats upto you. coz imo it aint upto the standard of live, and is probably tens of millions of dollars in investment, and a couple of years behind. still, the psn does exactly what is says on the tin, and is solid for a free service!!
I really like my 360. I like the interface, I liked the controllers (despite the D-pad issues). I liked achievements and still like them more than trophies. But after 4 consoles I had no choice but to switch. There was no sense in supporting a system that I can't play, no reason to buy a library of games if you don't know if you'll be able to play them a week later. I sat with my pre-ordered copy of Halo 3 (Halo being one of my favorite console franchises), stuck with it for a month waiting for another console to come back from Microsoft, and to add insult to injury Microsoft made me fight to get my money back when the extended the warranty but didn't think I deserved to get my $340 I spent on repairs back. I wonder how many others they just tried to keep that money, like they did with me. The hours lost on the phone with them, the months without a console, the mounting frustration. That'll change a man's gaming habits, let me tell you. And it's left me gun shy for the next console. I'm an early adopter, I bought all 3 of the last systems day one when they were released. That's not going to happen with Microsoft ever again.
I'm a forgiving gamer. I'll let Microsoft replace my 360 as many times as they care to. And the second they stop... they lose me. But if they screw up on another generation, they will have a hard time getting me back.
Uhm, to the guys who don't know what 1080p is... 1080p or FullHD is a pixel resolution, namely 1920x1080. What you are talking about is aspect ratio. The former standard was 4:3 and movies were 16:9, means the movies were wider than the screen that's why it had black stripes on top and bottom. Todays LCD and Plasma TVs have an aspect ratio of 16:9, black stripes vanished. But people started to miss those stripes, they were an indicator for movies or something, think of something stupid here (yes people are stupid). Now the movie industry switched gears to 2.39:1 to bring back the "beloved" black stripes. It has absolutely nothing to do with 1080p, BluRay, anything. It is just the silly mainstream crowd complaining about stupid things.
they can ask sony to manufacture it =o lol jkjk dual graphics so we can maintain 100 fps with aa
Wow edge I can't believe that someone would continue to support a company just because they fix it for free how is this going to teach M$ anything this just tells them that they're enough stupid people out there that will still buy our crap just because we'll fix it. We the gamers must stop allowing this sort of crap to happen this should have been slammed on to M$ 3yrs ago and they should have been taught a lesson. I laugh my A$$ off at all these fanboys I see on here who will doing anything for M$/Sony no matter what just to claim they have the best system and when I see people close there eye or turn the other way just because the company fixes something that should never been as bad in the 1st place just kills me. I had RROD once and if I get it again I'm done with there consoles fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me!!!
why are people critisizing darkride for stating fact and his opinion? He even said that the 360 would be his main console. You kids need to grow up and stop pretending you enjoy paying for live and you accept unreliable hardware just because it is from your beloved company. You just can't accept an honset and perfectly valid discussion without accusing someone of being a fanboy.
1st off there has been no news at all about when the next xbox will be out. At one point MS did say around 2011/2012. With all the revamps coming to XBL and Natal I doubt that is still their target date. There be no way around a standard HDD for the next systems. I think putting games on flash memory sticks be the way to go next gen. You cant damage them (unless you try) and it allow devs to only pay for as much storage as they need. Plus the price has really come down on these and will more so in the next few years. Plus you wont have the issues with load times you have with blu ray or even dvds. Other that MS just needs to keep doin what they are doing
The way I see, MS pledged to fix any console afflicted with RROD for 3 years. They have done right by my book. That is an attempt to fix a problem and just imagine how much this is costing MS. Nobody in their right mind considers this a proper business model. How can Xbox be better next? I'm expecting the usual, more horsepower overall and perhaps blu-ray (or equivalent large capacity format). However, I want to see something new and unique. Natal is a first step towards this, but what else revolutionary can they bring to the table? Otherwise, it is just the same games with better graphics. A sleeker and faster dashboard would be welcome, but the current one is pretty darn good.
So you went through 5 xbox 360's and you are still willing to give Microsoft money on day 1?
No, I did not buy 5 360's, that would be stupid. I had an in-store warranty that I used to trade the bad ones in and get a new one every time.
There are 3 key factors to address. First is the reliability. They can't rush a console with reliability issues out to beat the competition. A 30%+ failure rate is unacceptable by any stretch of the imagination. The other is pay-to-access online. It doesn't work when your direct competition offers the same features for free. Sure, the PS Network doesn't have cross game chat, but save that feature, Sony's PSN is free. No other money is needed to play games online. The third is a mandatory hard drive. Many developers love the PS3 because every system has a mandatory HDD. You can argue Sony for the various models and bundles, but every model has a generic HDD that can be replaced by a larger model for cheap. With the 360, you need to buy their HDD bundles for inflated prices and it's just not good for the consumer. My own fourth point is that the next system needs wireless connectivity needs to be included in the box. Shyte, even the Wii has wireless connectivity, as well as the DS and PSP. It's a cheap function that MS charges 100 dollars for with the current console. Some people might agree, but all said is true. I love my 360 for it's games that cannot be had anywhere else, but those features keep me from updating it.
Please Dont Get Rid of The RRoD That's the Best Thing About The Xbox 3 Dollar's 60
Don't use cheap, incompetent contractors? Do more quality control testing? Don't treat hardware like software which can't be as easily "patched" after its out on market? Hopefully MS knows better now. Hopefully.
Or they could just make it like the first xbox.
As long as they don't use the same folks that made that cord that started the original Xbox on fire. Just stay away from that and they would have a hit. Make it as reliable as the first Xbox but make it scream like the 360 or better. Man that would be a great deal.
agreed with all of you guys. taking more time is always better.
The games and online are outstanding. The reliability was the only thing that kept me from getting one when they first came out. The one that I have lit up with those nifty red lights this past week. I redid the thermal paste & heatsinks, and slapped it into a modded case for maximum cooling and we're good to go now, but it's sad that I even had to do this. I'll probably wait at least 2 years after their next version comes out to see what complaints rise to the surface...
Xbox live should definitely be made free. I may have to add that to the article!
that and a better D-pad maybe? I love the 360 controller but a lot of people don't seem too keen on the D-pad. I've also got this problem where when I'm playing a racing game, the car keeps slowly moving to the left (or was it right?). The manager at my local Game store has the same problem with hers. Something to do with the analogue stick I think.
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That's as retarded as placing a multiplat game in a PS3.
^^^^^ same as think that multiplats can take more adventage of a console than its own exclusives =/
And that's as retarded as you in a spelling contest.
So far, according to Metacritic this year, 70% of muliplatform games released in 2009 either scored higher on the PS3 or tied the 360. Huh. So either you're wrong about your assessment of where the PS3 stands in terms of multiconsole releases, or hundreds of professional reviewers are. Let's see....professional forum troll or professional game reviewers....Whose opinion is probably more correct....?
Forget the AC. The 360 already has enough add-ons. Just place it between a couple bags of ice. Some decent 1st party games also couldn't hurt.
No sense of humour or PS3 fanboy? Judging by your comments they seem to go hand in hand. Aren't you going to play your little "I own both consoles so I'm not a fanboy" card? I know you'd love to. Why do you even care if you own both consoles? Why do you even own a 360 when all you do is defend the PS3? You can't even handle innocent jokes like the one I pulled without getting your panties in a bunch lol! Lying sack of sh!t.
"So far, according to Metacritic this year, 70% of muliplatform games released in 2009 either scored higher on the PS3 or tied the 360." Take a look at how many people review each version the 360 always has double or more the numbers of reviewers which lowers the overall score.
It only lowers the review scores if those reviews are bad. Nice try though. I little math challenged, but I encourage you to attempt to bring out the brain matter a little more.
You remind me of my youngest brother so it's difficult for me to read what you write. Sorry about that. I'll help you out a bit here. http://www.metacritic.com/s... 15 reviews for 360 - 60% 10 reviews for PS3 - 67% Now if they would only allow sites that reviewed both versions to add their score then 360 would always (let me add it again for emphasis) ALWAYS come out on top. I remember when I was 10 and liked World Industries skateboards. I quickly found out it was a terrible brand but darn those cute cartoon characters! Edit: Ouch you're 35? How does it feel to get torn apart by someone half your age?
Microsoft should just make it like first xbox . RROD was there only main problem this generation.
and have more Xbox-ONLY- exclusive :|
just don't make it break within one year or two.
it up like they did with the xbox 360...they should take their time and fix every problem that could arise with it!
One thing they also need to address is the noise the xbox 360 makes. By using a more silent disc player and something like a ionic cooling mechanism. About blue ray it they will need a better format for their games (especially 3d games) but I doubt they will got for blue ray. Since it is Microsoft it is more likely they will go for the holographic disc if it is still on track for mass production in 2011/2012. Also wouldn't be a bad thing if they lowered the energy consumption.
You mean HVD? Holographic Versatile Disc? I don't know why you think MS would discard BluRay, I assume it's because BluRay is associated with Sony a lot. Well, too bad Sony has it's hands on HVD as well.
If people bought the arcade with no HDD, they shouldn't plan on DLC. If you want DLC, you need a HDD. This isn't a dev problem, its the consumer's problem. Simply eliminate access to a game using DLC content if the online player doesn't have the DLC. Supporting a HDD free gaming experience only holds everyone else back, if devs are truly withholding content because a tiny part of the user base lacks a hard drive. It's kinda like "oh no, 2% of users can't get the DLC...therefore we should deny access to this content to everyone!" I also don't get who says DLC has to have a price on it? Koei released a ton of new, and free, content for Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2, and DW6 Empires. Lazy developer excuses should never be taken as 100% true
They shouldn't rush the next Xbox this time and they should get more 1st party games that I can't already play on PC.
Not rushing the console out would be a good idea,RROD anyone?.I got a 360 on launch and dident have a problem for 12 months then flashy flash the red lights appear and i had the same problem with 2 consoles after that one including an elite which RROD right outta the box which really pissed me off.The games are great on the 360 but the consoles cheaply built,hopefully they will learn there lesson but for now ive moved over to the PS3 as thats starting to pick up now and release some top class games.It will be interesting to see what the next xbox turns out like but im not buying on launch this time,i'll just wait for a few months.Im not a fanboy by the way i like all consoles for the fact they both have great titles on but im sticking to PS3 untill the xbox appears and proves me wrong,make it reliable and i'll be sound as f**k thats my only quibble.
The argument about the HDD is that Valve needs to figure out a system that denies users without an HDD from entering online games against players who have an HDD and thus, the DLC. The other problem is that Microsoft won't allow Valve to release this DLC as free content (probably because The Orange Box is so popular that they see it as a cash cow for DLC income) so while some players will pay for the DLC, others won't, and how does Valve create the system so that those who have DLC are playing in different arenas from those who don't, and in different arenas from those who have no HDD and thus absolutely no DLC.
Make it so that the next xbox doesn't rrod, or scratch all my discs. Also, I think they should utilize the SDXC. If you have not heard, SDXC cards are the next upgrade to SD cards. They promise up to 2 terabytes of storage in a teeny tiny card. Tor from the bitbag put me on to those. Boost the graphics and guts of the console and you have a winner.
The Next Xbox must be QUIETER - if they solve that issue I'll be pretty happy. Other improvements... A huge, and preferably user replaceable hard drive. Built in WiFi. Improve the design of the box - get rid of the cheap feel plastic, swappable faceplates and the off-white colour. More USB ports - front and back Blu-Ray drive I'm not even going to mention reliability, as I'm confident that the new Xbox will be as bullet proof as the original.
So basically a PS3 right? I fully agree with you about the fan noise. Dead Rising was completely worth it.
That's funny, because my PS3 is louder than my 360...
My 360 was quieter than my PS3 too... right up until the fans started roaring like a jet engine and then left me with the RRoD.
@Thanatos - When I was typing it, I did think it sounded suspiciously like a PS3! :) @edge - Unfortunately I had a day 1 360 which was like a hairdryer/jet engine. I'm on my third warranty 360 now, and unfortunately all have been older models - so still noisy. :( I agree, the PS3 isn't as silent as some people claim - my 60GB's fan makes is quite loud at full speed - which can be distracting when watching movies.
I think it'd be a cold day in hell before Microsoft uses a blu-ray drive in it's console. I'm sure they will come up with a solution to game storage but I don't see them using a rivals proprietary product.
i dont thing they need much more power then they have with the 360 to achieve this blu-ray for movies, 80-120 gig hd, wifi, free online, backwards compatibility,
do you think that xbox would be doing so well with manditory hard drive.Tack on a extra hundred bucks and your not in the lead anymore over playstation not including a hard drive kept prices down for xbox. although its hurting xbox now
you just described a ps3
No he meant free online that's actually good. And games worth playing.
all must haves!!! built in WiFi, a good storage medium like BR, free online,more all around reliability of the system,all systems must have a HDD, actual 1st party true exclusives instead of the timed bs with 3rd party games. I will not not be getting the next Xbox on launch just based on MS's track record of shoddy craftmanship with both HW & SW and to make sure they will still be a hardcore gaming system and not a Wii + with that god awful natal crap.