Sony Corp. has remained silent amid the discovery of a patent that describes how the Playstation 3 could emulate the Playstation 2 Emotion Engine to provide new backwards compatibility functionality to the PS3 hardware.
honestly, who really cares about bw compability?
PS3 owners with a broken PS2 and a ton of games?
Are you serious? Um. Well think of it this way. You buy a next gen system and you can't play your old titles on it. That sucks.
I don't, but I could have. I traded in my PS2 last year, and if I didn't have a 60gb PS3, then BC would be very important.
I once had a 60GB PS3 but it died... Now I have almost 50 PS2 games and nowhere to play them. Some people will say to me "buy a PS2 then!" but I really loved the idea of having one console that play games from 3 generations, it is very convenient.
hmmm i think it could be a reality
It better be reality for Sony PS3.
It's worse if they outright say "this rumor is untrue" because then we'd have to figure out why they might be lying or accept what they say a truth. Being silent, on the other had, means it might be a possibility that they want to announce when they're ready. They've said multiple times that it IS possible but would be costly to implement so they wanted to see if it was worth doing in the first place (or something like that). They also mentioned something about how it might need to be done on a title-by-title base. This was all said long ago. I've got an 80Gb MotorStorm Bundle model so this only interest me if downloads pop-up on psn.
I hate how Sony takes things away saying that consumers don't care about it or don't want it. Only to later bring it back because they realized how dumb of a mistake it was to take it away. I think we all remember the whole we're never going back to rumble, six axis is the new best thing. Backwards compatibility should be a standard on all next gen console, and was at one point.
Of course they don't want publicity everywhere because they are hoping more PS2's will sell in the meantime, their big money maker.
Silence is certainly better than denying everything.
I'd rather take the silence than a flat out deny. If they come out and say that "Yes, its in the works", people would get hyped up and would want Sony to make it happen as fast as possible but if they stay silent, they can take their time making it and test it out thoroughly.
I believe the reason they take these things out was to cut costs, but not because they say no one cares about them. They just say stuff to have a reason. The "rumble is last gen" comment from Sony was because of they were sued in 2004 by Immersion because it made illegal use of haptic tech(rumble). "Sony is currently appealing against an injunction that would prohibit it from making or selling PlayStation controllers featuring rumble technology" http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Microsoft was sued too, but they settled it by paying $26 million, and getting a 10% stake in Immersion.
now why did sony take away ps2 compatibility?? from ps3?? will they do the same to ps4 removing backward compatibility is just dumb. then turn around and play silence is more dumb. when ps4 comes out I hope sony has REALLY learnt their lesson this doggone time. ps4 should be able to play ps1,ps2,ps3 games.
I have GTA: San Andreas and Shadow of the Colossus sitting by my PS3, ready to go!
(as you steal someones car) "I need this more than you, I think." Also, SotC is too awesome to have a single quote..but it would probably be "AGRO!" =P
Ha ha! Nice quotes – I forgot about the GTA one.
They have had to use software to emu the EE since the original 80gb motorstorm units were launched. It is the GPU they need to emulate. This just seems really old to make new again. All newer systems had the ps2 gpu removed which was the last nail in bc for the ps3. EE emu was already achieved a few sku's ago.
maybe thats what the Patent is for, to emulate both the PS2 GPU and CPU on the cell.
Exactly. Noone seems to have gotten the right idea with this.
Well, regardless of whether its true or not, arent they always silent on this stuff lol
If they can finally get software emulation working, Sony will finally be out of anything even remotely resembling a coherent excuse as to region-locking PS2 games. I mean, they've never had a valid reason (if my NA PS2 hardware can play JPN games, why can't my 60GB launch PS3? BECAUSE IT USE NA PS2 HARDWARE!) but before they could just spout out that lame "lol no, hardware not compatible" BS. And then I could finally get rid of the PS2 I've been keeping all these years just for those two imports I have.
It's not so much Sony as the publishers that want region locking a lot of the time.
This crap again? The PS3 has been emulating the EE since it released in Europe. Why submit these stupid articles from sites looking for hits again?
Considering the patent was made in 2008, and the PS3 launched in Europe in 2007, I'm a little doubtful of your interpretation.
Nothing to do with that, the Pal 60gb had half the hardware and half emulation, but no EE. The new Ps3s dont have any PS2 hardware so they would be 100% emulated..
Well put it this way if Sony decides to release GOW1&2 on the Playstation Store, it will not only raise public awareness about the franchise but at the same keep fans happy which translates into better sales for GOW3. Aswell as planning on Limited editions of the game + bundles and maybe even opening a Home space in anticipation for the title. Marketing is also key.
Anyone else figure that the old way the Emotion Engine was emulated basically lead to a dead end with the GS as you can't emulate the bandwidth itself since it's too much. The repatent is a different way of emulating the Emotion Engine and instead of a 1/1 ratio of emulation, they're going to go with a recompilation of the emulation basically starting from scratch and emulating it in a completely different way to actually make said emulation feasible. Though with this new method of emulation, maybe they can offload it directly into ram rather then having insanely fast but very limited ram which the 4 mb of ram was.
im not trying to be an a$$hole, but i have 60gb launch ps3, and i've played exactly 4 games onit ps2-wise. graphics are old, no trophies, it signs me out of PSN, really, you might6 as well be playing on a ps2. they are so small these days too you can practically hide it anywhere. i cant imagine anyone spending 400-500 on a ps3 to play ps2 games.
Wait a minute...it signs you out of the PSN?! That's lame.
Let me try to explain why i want is so badly. 1. I collect games and play old games all the time. I know that not all gamers do this, but i do. When you have over 3,ooo game disks and/or cartridges, i assure u that you will be playing old games all the time. 2. Sony promised bc. In fact they made fun of the 360 because of its limited bc. This together with all the other arrogant claims by Sony initially turned me off buying a Playstation 3. In fact i do not own one yet, in large part because of this lack of BC, attitude and price, combo. (i'll get one as soon as they reinstate BC and make it cheaper) 3. most importantly, if the game disk is playable in sucesive generations of consoles, that disk will retain its value. Thus your games become assets. Think about it...they are like baseball cards. 4. I hate clogging my limited space for electronics with old consoles. It just makes everything messy. I rather have only the current gen consoles. I hope this gives u an idea about the importance of BC for certain gamers. I do not hate Sony, but their decision to ax BC has weighed heavily on my decision not to buy the machine. I think i am not the onlyone here. Lots of Sony fanboys (not saying u r one by the way)keep saying is not important just to defend sony at every step. however, they should realize that not demanding bc hurts us as gamers. I will not defend a console when they make poor choices as this one. If the next xbox is does not have bc, i will not buy one. peace
We have played PS2 Games and playing the games do not sign us out because of that. Also making the PS3 BC is not for anyone wanting to specificly buy the PS3 to play PS2 Games, It's so that they can faze out the PS2, Bring out the PS3 Slim and drop the price and put PS2 Games on the PSN, also this will make the PS3 Gaming Library very big for ALL PS3 owners.
i am a game collector as well, i have every system from 2600 on up (besides a cd-i), and i love old games just as much as the next guy, but i'll tell you when i p[layed shadow of the colossus on my 46" 1080p, i wanted to cry. thats why i just dug out the old ps2, hooked it up to an old 30" trinitron in my media room and called it good. and i think bc is (or was) important, thats why i bought ps3 when it came out.
I bet they are going to include the software emulation with the PS2 games they r going to sell on the PSN store. This back compatible software is going to make them allow to sell ps2 games on their marketplace. Trust me that sounds more like it then them just releasing a free update to allow backwards compatability. They r going to make money on this
I'm not so sure. PS1 games work on the PS3 quite well, yet Sony still makes a fortune from selling them on the PSN. However, due to the complex nature of PS2 emulation, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a more selective emulation, rather like the 360's Xbox emulation, where there's a list of working games rather than a list of nonworking games.
their old consoles...i have my ps2 and ps1 both running fine....although i play only a few games on my ps1...i use my ps2 to play god of war and others occasionaly...so i dont need BC
People shouldn't have to have a bunch of obsolete consoles cluttering their entertainment centers. Sony should have stuck to what they talked sh&t about MS for not doing and made all PS3s backwards compatible.
just because ur boyfriend left u doesnt mean u should dish out ur anger on others :P
I still play 4 player 'TimeSplitters 2' with 3 mates and playing it on the PS3(60GB) is better because of er erm no one falling over DS2 Pad leads!!! ;-D Playing it with the DS2 pad on a PS2 seems strange now. Those LEADS!!! ;-D Amazing how you forget how you used to play games. + If i get another PS3, i would like it to play PS2 games to(i got 64 PS2 games to) I like 1 Console that does it ALL;) p.s I still LOVE YOU PS2 + PS1!!! ;-D
sony will milk us for all the psone dowloadable games, then they will hit us with the ps2 downloads and then the milking process starts all over again
I bought the 80gb MGS4 bundle that was supposed to be backwards compatible but I have problems playing certain ps2 games (like Jak and Daxter). Will a new firmware update fix this problem or will I have to buy a new PS3?
Not sure, but I just wanted to say Jak and Daxter is one of the most kick ass platformers ever made.
YES, make it happen Sony.
soooo, the ps3 slim will have ps2 compatibility hmmmmmmm?? i'll buy it. after i sell my 80gb non-b/c ps3
And. .maybe they integrated the GPU hardware back into it.I'd be p1ssed..cuz Software emu isnt impossible,just time and money consuming figuring it out.
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