X-Play: "Adam Sessler reviews 'The Conduit', a new first-person shooter on the Nintendo Wii. Will this game usher in a new era of hardcore games for the Wii or leave our Wiimotes collecting dust?"
My sentiments exactly. It probably would have been a 3.5 if they still did half stars. Multiplayer rocks.
Wasn't this already submitted or am I having dejavu?
Yep, already submitted http://www.n4g.com/wii/News...
I think it was, but last time the video review wasn’t up.
I wonder why they didn't mark Halo or Killzone 2's story, even though it was very generic and cliche. (did they play this game for story??).
Halo isn't really generic, its actually pretty unique for a sci-fi game (this coming form a halo hater). Killone 2 doesn't place emphasis on its story at all, so it never really gets in the way. Its just an excuse to shoot and kill things. I think the conduit kind of pushes it story into your face. You see it more, because its more story based than Killzone. Thats why its more harshly critiqued then Killzone 2 in terms of story, the conduit relies on it more. Thats just a guess at why it could be judged differently. I haven't played the conduit, so I could be totally wrong. But I think there is some other reason that conduit scored a 3 other than bias.
Halo isnt generic? You dont watch much Sci fi.. Killzone2? Honestly that is just a BS excuse. Who ever said the Conduit was going to be a game with a killer story? So shouldnt the same excuse apply? I honestly havent heard one good reason why some generic stories are considered okay but another just as generic story is dismissed simply because of what? It must be the console it is on. One man against an army of aliens trying to stop the Earth from being destroyed by some device has been done so many times.
Well, at least Red steel 2 looks phenomenal for Wii owners. I myself wont be getting it. The next game I'm getting for wii is the prime trilogy (which I admit will be amazing). Until then Ill stick with PS3 and a little 360 :P Edit: Its sitting with a 74 at metacritic. Dude, the hype this game had made it seem like it would be the definitive first person game on wii, its not. It flopped. I was looking passed that and I was saying that Red Steel 2 based on the E3 demo looks AAA. Metroid Prime Trilogy will be AAAA. We just have to get over it. Edit 2: @ mrnintendo. Those arent as generic as you think. What the Conduit lacks is those set piece moments that KZ2 has to make it memorable and have variety. Halo 3 has the most features in a multiplayer game ever. Also the stories in those games are sequels. Conduit just doesnt match up as new game.
How can you call it a flop when you never even played it?
this guy only goes by lower ratings, its pathetic how he and the likes call it a flop, but when there is a 8.5 given out the comment section is empty.
Well a 3 ain't bad, and I find this review bias. Killzone 2 and Halo 3 are very generic titles (not to say they aren't awesome) and they get 5s. Think for a second. EDIT: Who disagreed?? Killzone 2 and Halo 3 are great games. They are just generic like all shooters?? tlhey do have memorable moments (even halo, but it doesn't deserve a 5). N4G = HELL.
Killzone 2 :1. It is the most amazing looking game that I have ever played. 2. Very solid controls although camera location is a little low. 3. amazing action throughout the entire game. 4. awsome multiplayer. 5. Did i mention its the best looking game ever made? (personal opinion) Halo 3: 1. Like it or not it has some of the most addictive multiplayer on any system and tons of online game modes. 2. The story reall isnt very generic as some have said. It actually is quite deep when combined with the books. 3. Good graphics. 4. 4 player co-op. 5. Lots of replay value when you take into account the campaign scoring system and skulls hidden throughout. Face it they are the most recognized titles on their respected systems and thats what makes them 5s. The conduit doesnt even rank best shooter on its system and even if it did it takes backseat to a guy wearing overalls and another in a green dress thing with tights.
@above, I am sorry but that post doesnt make any sense at all. I can name off lots of games that outsold Killzone2 on PS3. Also Conduit is the best first person shooter on Wii. It's funny that most of the reviews are flawed and bias but even when that is plain as day to anyone, we have the fanboy contingent to come in and point out the most bias and flawed while completely ignoring the fair reviews. I dont really care about the score but a low score from a site like Gamepro means nothing to me when they didnt even bother to play the game and proved it in their review. And Edge? Who takes Edge seriously any more? They've ripped some good games for every console.
It's a bias review, and I don't think anyone takes your comments seriously either.
Mister 3 bubbles =D
You're both kind of right. I don't really think this is biased, but to me a game flops only if ALL of these apply to it. 1: Bad review scores (not really true here) 2: Bad Sales (True) 3: Not even a small group likes it. (not true) If you ask me IMO you should buy this if you already have a wii. Other than that you have plenty of good alternatives on other systems. So if you don't have a wii don't be too jealous. Again Mr.N i'm not saying it is bad. It just is not the top of the FPS games as some people said it would be.
Damn mr nintendo take a deep breath, a break from the damage control and not worry about others opinions. oh, and btw comparing killzone and halo to this turd pile makes you look really intelligent!
conduit is crap. period!!!!
It is definitely not crap. Why is it that almost every person on this site says that a game is either Great or a Flop? This game is in between it is not as good as people said it was, but it is not bad. It is a game to get if you have the system, but not a game to be jealous of. Some people like Mr.N love it. Some people like the reviewer hate it.
Whatever you say Mr.1 bubble!! ;P @ Snake Raiser. Exactly! Too bad that deafphat can't say it in a way that would give him bubbles.
All three systems have hyped games with lower than expected scores 360 has Too Human, PS3 has Haze, and now the Wii has the Conduit.
You just made an intelligent non-biased statment by comparing the conduit to games more in its class and not the record setting blockbuster games on other consoles. I cant decided wether to applaud or report you.
The conduit for the players' sake lived up to the hype, since when do review ACTUALLY determine how fun a game is? this difference, too human and haze actually suck. the conduit doesn't. reviews mean nothing, can't we all just play the games for ourselves? ever notice why player reviews are on average 1.5-2 points higher than the reviewers average? reviewers look for things player don't care about. play the game for yourself, then try comparing it.
Very true but as a long time PC FPS fan I'm loving the conduits controls. Maybe I'm older than most of you guys but I remember when quake 3 came out and we all asked so does single player really have a story? id like a wise sage said hell no and we all cheered! Genius! I guess that is how I feel about this game the story mode is an excuse for me to practice off line and set up my controls. It does show off some graphical spunk here and there but seriously the magic is in the controls and the game play that springs from that. I think this is why The grinder will be so much better from these guys... the story makes no sense and it truly is an excuse to shoot stuff. I would still give it a 4 simply because it is better than metroid game play wise just because of the online. Metroid was hard and beautiful yet fighting your equal online is priceless, plus they keep getting better! The FPS players that play these games for story will be SOL i guess, since you have to work to pull the story out of this game I believe. Well that is what they say but most FPS DGAF. What ever review misses is how great the control system is and how much that along can suck you into the game. If HVS learned their lesson they would just make more no story driven games and give us the controls to the crazy action!
Anyone that thought this game was going to do well, even if it got good ratings, has got to ask themselves even if it were a decent game, hardcore gamers just don't play the Wii that often. This game came off way too much as "Hey, look at the Wii! It has an FPS now! That's HARDCORE! RAH!" I mean comeon. It would have to get 9.5 minimum to even raise eyebrows since we know the hardcore gamer relies heavily on reviews; just taken together, what's said about the game, minus all the other BS like fanboys raising/lowering metacritic. For this game to have "succeeded" from a hardcore perspective, the bar was just simply too high for it to even have a chance. The Wii just isn't powerful enough.
that bullsh!t hardcore gamer dont relies on rating. they dont usually even check out the rating. he will play the game no matter what.
See what i did there? Took controls in to account despite the fact that both PS3 and 360 are INCAPABLE of offering this feature. So Basically any Reviewer of this game who turns into a blowjob for HD graphics is simply being unfair. Its no wonder that handheld reviews are done by different people, its to avoid this DUMB BIAS.
As noted earlier, the game's average is about 74. People are acting like 70's or 75's are bad. They aren't. They're average scores. There's about 7 above average (80 or higher) scores on metacritic, and they haven't put up some of the ones that have already come through on this site. What gets me is how the controls don't perk up the scores a little bit. No, this game's graphics aren't KZ2. The story is generic (but I think many FPS games are guilty there, too). The online is solid, but unspectacular. But the controls are freakin' amazing. This is the first console shooter with customization on par with a mouse/keyboard setup. I read Game Informer's review saying they would've preferred dual analog, and I actually laughed. I can't believe how tied some "hardcore gamers" are to their dual analog controllers. They aren't as precise or fast as what you can do with IR pointer controls. You'd think this would be a bigger deal for most "hardcore gamers," but it's not.
To me, a generic story is a game that has a story that we've seen many times before and is the same as everything else. The amount of storytelling also accounts for that in my mind. So, yeah, The Conduit is generic. I guess that this disappointed many reviewers who were promised a conspiracy-laden storyline, so that is where the critisim is coming from. Either that or X-Play is bias (i think this is both, x-play doesn't seem to care much about story). The Conduit also has very bad cutscenes. They are just speechboxes and a small box at the upper right corner of the screen, very similar to a early Star Fox game. They are VERY badly designed, and I hope the next "The Conduit" game has some good immersive Half-Life/Killzone style cutscenes.
good try learn from you`ll mister and make the next game with a better story and it would get some better reveiw
Bad graphics? has anyone played a wii game lately? its beatiful game that pushes the console beyond what nintendo can do. Art direction is nor graphics. graphically 1st party games are blown out of the water.
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