Vgchartz is reporting that the Conduit has had a decent opening week for Wii, selling roughly 100,000 units.
I'm not being rude, just asking. Is it a relative term to say it is a hit? 100,000 is a decent number but later int he article they make the claim that 300,000 lifetime sales for a game ont he Wii is a hit for a new i.p. I was always told that for a game to be a hit, about 500,000 copies had to be sold. Is this not true? Especially for a console with over 50,000,000 units sold? It bums me out that FPS's cannot break into the Wii. I personally do not like the controls but you would think that other titles outside of Metroid and the like could at least sell similarly and do much better than this.
Yeah, but you have to realize it's the first week. And FPS games on Wii usually sell well (Metroid, Call of Duty, etc.). This is very good for first week sales.
For me selling 100,000 in a week is not a hit. However, it is hard to tell until later, some games sell more the first week than the rest of their shelf lives. Then some games sell better week 2 than week 1. For this game though I think most people who would be interested in this game know that it exists, so that would normally mean that week 1 sales are the peak for the game.
@Syro "I was always told that for a game to be a hit, about 500,000 copies had to be sold. Is this not true? Especially for a console with over 50,000,000 units sold?" Where did you hear that from? I was under the impression game budget,marketing, outsourcing, and other variables have an affect on individual games. Meaning you can't have one universal number to look for when looking at if a game is a hit or profitable.
How the hell is 100,000 in a WEEK not a hit? Decent games hit 100,000 a month. That's good for The Conduit, I keep seeing the commercials so it must be working for them.
Think about this: How many people own a Wii? 50 million or something? That's .002% of console owners. Does that seem successful to you guys or not?
100,000 copies of the game are sold for a platform that has +50,000,000 units out on the market. That ends up being less than 0.2% of console owners picking up the game. I hope that number increases but this, to me, is sort of a nod towards the 'wii gathering dust' situation.
are you referring to the conduit? why do you point at 50 million units sold, the wii like dvd players have their own breakdown of users. there are all sorts of movies out there, and just about everyone has a dvd player, so when a new movie like dark knight comes out are we expecting 500mil+ sales? you should get where i'm going with this. HD consoles have 30 & 20 mil units , so the blockbuster games like MGS4 & Halo3 sold 20 & 30mil units each? the bracket for wii dev to make profit is a lot different. always that 50 mil user, look at the psp then =/ 100k (their estimates) is a great sign and all wii SW have tremendous legs, they might not sell out right away like HD games but they will go on to selling alot. A game can do 50k first week and 1 or 2 months later be at 500k+. So let's see where these numbers take HVS, but it's very positive thus far.
but i think the game was made of fail right from the start. Its like a subpar og xbox shooter with nice controls.
"there are all sorts of movies out there, and just about everyone has a dvd player, so when a new movie like dark knight comes out are we expecting 500mil+ sales? you should get where i'm going with this. HD consoles have 30 & 20 mil units , so the blockbuster games like MGS4 & Halo3 sold 20 & 30mil units each? the bracket for wii dev to make profit is a lot different. always that 50 mil user, look at the psp then =/ " Glad someone thinks at least around it, i have been saying it for a while. If we are gonn involve the whole install, then its a damn shame MGS4 did not sell 20million, cause its a damn good game. But it goes to show where the "hardcore" gamers really are.
"How many people own a Wii? 50 million or something? That's .002% of console owners." Your notation is flawed. It's either 0.002 times the install base or 0.2% of the install base. Taking a number expressed in decimal notation and adding a percentage sign to the end of it creates an entirely different ratio. If the game had sold 50 million, then it would have sold 100% of or 1 times the install base; not 1%.
Well to give you guys an idea FF7 sold about 2 mil in half a week. I'm not saying it is doing badly. But to me Halo MGS4 GTA4 FF GT All those franchises are hits. And those sell over 100,000 on their first day. Just also want to point out that i'm not saying it is a bad game, just don't call it a sales hit. I am also not saying that it will have bad sales in its life time. Just that right now i'm not going to call it a sales hit.
@Snake "Halo MGS4 GTA4 FF GT" Of course they sell well. Although Metal Gear on MSX sold poorly as well as the first GTA. It took both of those games with a franchise reboot to get the sales where they are today. Remember this is for the Wii's core audience. 100,000 units sold in a week is good for this demographic.
God of War II sold 3.5m copies on a console that has a user base of 120m....
Syronicus at 100,000 sold the first few days it has already beat mad world and NMH and people love those games. Also HVS has finally made sega a game they can get behind. If you look at wii sports it sold 300k yet we all know the conduit is some thing people have to try. Once you do you are hooked unless you just want to hate the wii. Selling to 50 million people or 10 million like halo takes millions in marketing. This game got a commercial or two, no limited edition consoles , controller drinks tv announcements etc. Halo did, now if this game reach killzone 2 numbers then I will start laughing because it would seem PS3 owners don't like games for grown ups. I believe Res evil Wii had lower numbers than this but kept on selling also. That is the real key it has to keep selling. I'm sure it will though the next game I know I'm getting is resort with demon blade. So there isn't another game to replace what the conduit is doing unlike the release list of games on the HD consoles. Another thing how much do you think they make over at HVS? If you are ever in chicago you should drive over there and tell me how many lambos they have in the parking lot. my guess is they made pure profit after 50k. Also Wii development is crazy cheaper. Most add work was done in house from what I'm hearing also.
Well, MGS4 must have flopped too, because it sold only 4 million units (around there). There are around 20 million PS3 owners. *sarcasm*
Oh VGchartz is reporting this...so it must be true then, laf...
this is vgchartz dont make me laff
If it was a ps3 or 360 game the sales would be pathetic
If it was a PS3/360 title the whole design(from use of poly counts to gameplay design) would have been different. So saying that is just irrelevant. People really need to stop saying that, c'mon think, if the The Conduit was build for the Ps360 everything would have been different.
are not composed of core gamers. stop saying "a hurr durr 50 million ppl thus 100k is bad" wii has a LARGE casual percentage, and a low core user base. the fact that a game with a core mentality sold this much IN A WEEK on the WII is a relative victory in itself. the same views do not apply to 360/ps3 however.
hey hd console owners sense this game has nothing to do with your consoles why do you care enough to post your crying thoughts. the sales don't effect you guys in any way so worry about your own games and stop crying about wii and its games if you don't like nintendo so much!wii gets a good hardcore game and all you hd console owners cry about everything you see about it! its crazy how much you guys cry about something thats has nothing to do with you!you guys must be scared if wii keeps getting decent hardcore games and keeps crushing the hd consoles in sales that your consoles will never catch up!well its too late wii has won the sales war its over so go an worry about your storys were we don't post! cause you can keep crying but it won't make your consoles win the sales war!!!!
Fanboy logic. Bringing up 50,000,000 installed base and saying Conduits a flop because it didn't sell to 90% of the user base. Give it a break. "Compared to installed base" is such a weak argument its not even funny. How many PS2 games sold 50m units? 100k in a Week during summer time? That bodes well for HVS, and the word of mouth will continue selling this game. The multiplayer is straight crack. Call of Duty for the Wii sold what 40k in its first week and now its a platinum selling title.
Amazing, isn't it? 100K in one week -- for a new IP, sold way outside of end of the year holidays -- is very solid. I wouldn't say that makes Conduit a "hit," but it does mean that it's on the right track to becoming one. If it ends up putting up Dead Space numbers (800K), will fanboys consider it a hit? http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... Or even Bioshock's PS3 numbers? http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... It'll be very interesting to see how Conduit does by the end of the year, after the holidays.
Hit in terms of profit for HVS - yes Hit in light of average Wii sales = no Hit in relation to other FPS's = yes Hit what makes the Wii worth buying = no. =3
Congratulations, The Conduit! You are a hit! =D "Vgchartz staffer Keith Jackson has informed me that while High Voltage Studios had not yet heard how the game has performed, Sega is "very happy", and Game Spy, which handles Wii online servers apparently was pretty impressed with the traffic of the game on the servers calling it "hot". Apparently, The Conduit online traffic was higher than Super Smash Brothers Brawl and Mario Kart Wii (presumably over an initial period)."
Not a hit but at least it wasn't overlooked like Chinatown.
Chinatown Wars has now sold 580,000 copies: http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... That's pretty good. DS games usually have a slow-burn sales cycle. If Conduit gets to that territory, I think it'd be safe to call it a hit.
Im glad for these numbers. Its proof that Wii can sell Fps and don't let anyone turn u off buying this. Wii controls are THE BEST controls for a console fps or tps ever made, no dispute on this at all. Try it and then decide for yourself. Don't listen to idiots like SYRONICUS who are blatantly trolling in Wii forums.
LMAO.. The fanboys and their extremely poor math skills. 100k in a week is good. It could see 300k or more just for the first month. Not many PS3/360 games even do that. And do the children looking at install base, in your ignorance to hate on Wii you just called God of War a complete flop.. After all out of 140million PS2 owners less than 2 million bought the game.Grats there kids. Dont let your lack of knowledge stop you from looking like a complete idiot. Let's recap. Sony fanboys are so stupid and so desperate to cal la game a flop, that they just half the PS2 library complete flops. That my friends takes a new level of ignorance to do... To trash your most beloved console and most of its games just to hate on 1 game you will never play. Some how pathetic just doesnt cover it
That's more than a little hypocritical of you, don't you think? I think the Conduit looks like it's doing fine, but maybe you're learn your lesson from this when taking shots at Sony. Clearly you have a double standard. Mind you, I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
sorry buddy, you're wrong. 100k in a week is a joke for a system that has a 50M install base. Let's compare that to the 2.1 Million on DAY ONE for Gears of War 2. I mean really, who has the poor math skills?
Perhaps poor math, but you have poor logic. You are saying Gears of war sold 2.1 million on day one. Isn't the install base around 30m? Wouldn't you expect 10 million on day one? O What is that? Games sell over time? So what is your point exactly? Name one "hardcore" game that sold the exact same amount as the install base ( and im not talking about games that come with the system). Name me one.
Ok what other games has sold that much. So is every other game by MS a failure. We are talking about good sales not trying to past records that land the host console in 2nd place with every one claiming it will be 3rd by the end of this gen.
DeadSpace sold about 60,000 more copies than Conduit in its first week: http://www.vgchartz.com/swl... The PS3 version of Bioshock sold about 35,000 in its first week: http://www.vgchartz.com/swl... Were these failures? These are "hardcore games" on the "hardcore systems," after all. Always looking at the install base doesn't make sense. Everyone knows the Wii has a lot of casual gamers. But even with hardcore gamers, if you're a big fan of another genre (RPG, driving sim, RTS, puzzlers, etc.), you aren't going to necessarily buy up a new FPS.
Listen, I'm all for the Wii doing well, I own one. I used to be a gigantic Nintendo fan. I would love to see them truly return to the hardcore gamer. It's just that given the feats of real blockbusters on other platforms this generation, 100k in a week just doesn't seem that great. Granted, the Conduit isn't getting great reviews either. It just seems that a game that was hyped as much as this one, on a platform with fifty million units, 100k just seems weak to me. I'm not trying to hate, just giving my honest opinion. Halo 3 - 3.3 million, 12 days GeoW 2 - 2.1 million 1 day CoD4(360) - 1.57 million, 2 weeks CoDWaW - 1.4 million, 2 weeks
danofpaco... tell me what magazine hyped this game and what magazine gave it a prefect score and what E3 was it paraded around as if it was a prefect game? Gamers opinion of a game is just that opinion and if you actually play the game then you will see where we are coming from yet if you don't like these type of FPS games then maybe you should get some thing like the games you listed. There are different types of FPS players, you know that right? Also what games on the Wii sales those type of number day one? Wii games sale differently understand that. Also look at the list you put up.... those are all established names and they came out when HD gaming was new and exciting.... what games are selling those amounts now in a rescission. Word of mouth hype work pretty differently and it take time. Yet you get pretty good results.
CoD:WaW sold 44.000 week one and ended up to sell more than 800.000 in America alone: http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
this is the same as punchout, and no one seemd to think that was a flop in the US
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