Gametrailers: "Does The Conduit have what it takes to compete with the best games on the Wii?"
i just finished playin a bit of the conduit and it was pretty fun. The online was great and the single player wasn't too bad neither. It's definitely a 8 kind of game to me.
7-8 isn't bad for HVS's first try.
Its a good score to me.
I thought we agreed that anything below 9 is a flop?
That was 360 and PS3 rules. Wii does not apply. :)
But to me, any game under 9.1 should be boycotted x3 /s Nah seriously, to me any game 7 and above is worth looking into, 8 and above is worth purchasing without too much pondering (except for genere, style, etc) 6 and below =/ rental if interesting....
lets face it. these types of games just arent for the wii. still, it's a good score considering it's the first of its own. it would be nice to see a similar game score well on the wii
puts popcorn in microwave getting a coke sit back and count the time it takes for the cry babies to cry baised
If you are referring to the GamePro review... No sorry, GamePro was just a pile of BS, no one was mad at the rating.
actually its quite the opposite, you can get the best FPS controls of any console on the wii, a more innovative story and something new on the gameplay department so its not just run and gun, has nothing to do with whatever console its being developed for, that just up to the developers creativity when it comes to storytelling, which in this case it wasnt that good, but for pure gameplay fun, its an amazing game, just not the full package some people were expecting(i never expected much of that part in the conduit) Just look at Prime 3, great story, great art design, not really a full FPS, something diferent than what you can see on other consoles, and that has nothing to do with the fact that it was done on the wii..
Thank you for your comment, Comments like that from blitz are getting tiresome.
I disagree with best FPS controls on a console. I've been trying out a Frag FX for the PS3 and I must say it's a bit better than the Wiimote, at least in my opinion.
Some might think so but for me and the majority of FPS players, the Wii is not the ideal platform for the genre and no, it's not just for the graphics. The controls are just to wanky for the genre and though possible.. They are not even close to being great.
Syronicus have you played the game ? Now if yes have you set up a control tweak yet? Ok now have you went online and watched other peoples control set up beat you to the ground because you suck at setting up your own controls? You see what I did there? If you want the best controls then just like the PC you will need to tweak them just like the PC. None of this canned set up crap. I don't know if you guys have noticed but it took the Wii for the HD guys to even think about this for hardcore gamers. That really shows where the HD console guys heart is. Then on top of that they are doing this most because they want the casual gaming market. I sort of have to ask who forgot about who are better yet did the HD guys just creat another segment of hardcore gamers that where actually PC gamers? If so that is not hard to do since technology and piracy and just PC snobbery in general made that market hostile to what we had on console before the PS2. We've been wanting this show down for a while. PC developers going up against PC developers. Yet we don't like what market it has produced. The disconnect of the HD guys from the rest of gaming is cancerous to the point they control what is made more than the developer. 20-100 million budgets have developers by the balls making them unwilling to try new things. I don't blame gamers though this would not have happened if these console where affordable then all games could flourish. HD gamers do not realize that are actually pushing real hardcore gamers away with their attitudes. We are not whimps but we know a real hardcore gamer when we see or read their response. Owning stuff doesn't always make you hardcore. Otaku maybe but not hardcore.
Nope, and all others sucked so what's your point? There is some magical gnome that reaches out of the console when you insert this game and makes your controller all better? No, it's the Wii-mote no matter what color you paint it and it sucks for FPS's no matter the game. You can criticize me personally and lay on your insults but in the end, the Wii-mote is still no good for FPS's, it's just that simple. No number of insults you lay on an individual you know nothing about over the internet is going to fix the Wii-mote in terms of FPS's... Sorry.
Please realize you are not talking to a fan boy. I get nothing from making you out to be the fool you claim to be with your own opinions. In fact I only here because I'm at work waiting on renders and light maps yes I still call them that LOL. No one is talk about gnome or what ever are you off your meds or something... Is that all you got is spouting misdirected analogies that only make sense in your mind? We have sales and we have a game we wanted, guess what you can claim what ever you want now. I'm good.... nintendo did their job , HVS did their job and more people are about to do their job and kick this gen in the but and get it started. Hey the recession sucks but hey so does greed... think about that will you. OK Syronicus first we are suppose to take the opinion of some one who has not even played the game or experienced it as fact? Then for the better judgment of me I am suppose to ignore my first hand account with this game along with others. On top of that I need to ignore what we have seen with our own R&D team when you take set ups like this to the next level with motion plus. Hey you win. The wii mote sucks for you. I'm sure mouse and keyboard sucks for some people also. Analogs are great for spamming IMO. Most weapons in the conduit reward aiming though. Also this game requires skill you will not just pick it up and crush every one. The same thing goes for other real FPSs. I'm betting I can get on some ones halo account right now and be one of the best on the map easy and I havn't played in like 3 years LOL. I don't think I insulted you but maybe it's you blind rage for some thing you have not played? Seriously why are you even here? Most of us have the game and we like it? What are you trying to accomplish? It doesn't seem to be working because you are talking to people who already have the game, get it? People agreeing with you might not even have the system in most cases because I'm sure if I had an xbox and 360 I would have to try out many of it's games to form my own opinion. We are no different than the millions that got Wii fit we knew we wanted this game and a bunch of opinion from guys like you are not going to change that? We are not concerned about review scores we listen to real players. That is what the hardcore do. Only people new to gaming listen to review scores with out forming an opinion own our own. Are we in competition with HD games nope because we clearly do not care about them. Well I care more about HD pc games, you know real HD games where your engine can use up a gigs of texture ram. Hey but yeah you win the Wii mote suck for you we get it, sorry about that. So whats next you started gaining weight after wii fit? I'm really sorry you had such a bad time with the wii mote but it does require coordination you know.
well syronicus, im not sure how you can claim that controller sucks for FPS if you have actually played this game, of Medal of Honor Heroes 2 or Metroid Prime 3. my guess is that you havent, because the only one stopping anyone from having the perfect control scheme, is that person by itself, because there is nothing you cant customize to get it perfet...I have a PS3, have played many shooters, and i have a gaming PC, and i have no doubt or problem saying that mouse and keyboard are the best of the 3, followed by wii remote and then dual analogs...
(looks at G4 review article)
fanboys will cry there killer app has fallen short. Yet again true next gen consoles didn'r fail. Halo 3 didn't dissapoint, Killzone 2 didn't dissapoint but the conduit does
If you ask me...Halo 3 did disapoint =P so where are you coming from? stop trolling, shoo shoo Conduit fell short in some areas sure, but it's nothing it can't build up on on upcoming sequels Its a solid shooter considering the platform its on - stop being a pathetic little fanboy.
i agree with you guys wii controls are the best for f.p.s!and i got the conduit today and everything about it is great the graphics,the controls and the gameplay the only thing is the levels could be a little better but its still fun as hell to play!and if you wondering how i can judge and say the wii f.p.s controls are the best i have wii and my roomate has wii and xbox360 which he traded his ps3 to get so i've played lots of f.p.s on the hd systems and never did i like there controls better not even in halo3!whats crazy is i like medal of honor heroes 2 for wii controls better then most hd systems f.p.s.es!!!!!!
chisox100 i haven't seen anyone online who said they got the conduit and didn`t like it!and if they did it's probably someone like you who is so mad that wii is crushing your hd systems in sells that they would pretend to own a wii and the conduit and they will say it sucks without even playing or seeing it in person cause now that we keep getting hardcore good games with online and now voice chat and we have the sells. you guys won't know what to cry about!cause if you were a real gameplayer who doesn't like the wii you would never even read wii storys or post on them cause like us wii owners you would either be playing your system or reading your systems storys and posting with other people who like your system of choice!see us wii owners are to busy enjoying our nintendo systems to read non nintendo storys let alone post on them crying all the time just becuse your system is getting it's but kick in sells by a less powerful system with new controls your afraid of or to dumb to learn so you cry on our post like all the other hd fans who say they play there system so much but it always seems like there on nintendo storys crying like babys about somthing cause they thought there system would be in first place!well its time to grow up and just worry about your storys like us wii owners do!!!!!cause your system is losing is sells thats a fact not opinion and in april wii was the second most played system so its not sitting collecting dust like you say thats a fact too look it up!!!!!!!!!
thats really good for the wii, hope to see a sequel for you guys
People disagree with you, they really feel this needs to fail. How sad.
yeah I think they can smooth out the rough edges on the sequel. If it sell even decently like 400-500k then there definitely will be a sequel. Considering this is their very first fps I think they did fine.
If it was 2002 again
With that attitude, you don't deserve kenshiro.
I must say that I am disappointed with the online aspect of The Conduit. Before you disagree or flame me let me explain, I was under the impression that my friends and I could all gather and enter a match together and play on the same team. We use Skype to communicate to help form strategies but after 6 matches we were all on the same team only once thus making Skype and even Wii speak pointless if we are not working together. I really hate to compare The Conduit to Halo 3 but since I own both games I have wonder why this is such an issue. Perhaps I am doing something incorrectly that I am unaware of and, if so, I could use some insight from some of you here. That is the only gripe I have on a The Conduit. Everything else has surpassed what I expected.
I'd still round it off to an 8...these .6's and .2's confuse me, my mind's just used to rounding off so to me this is a solid 8 game =) Gj HV, keep up the good work!! Focus more on story next time!!
focus on the delivery of the story a bit more. The game play is top notch though. I'll admit to anyone who is still riding the fence on getting the game, especially if the reviews are going to sway their decision, that the first level is rather bland, but after that the game is very addictive. The graphics are great...period. I actually thought about it while admiring the graphics, that I would also play this on the other systems, I wouldn't mind at all. Like I said, the first level is bland as hell, but after that, you really don't think you're playing a Wii game, especially once you get your special suit back and you come across the Warp Pistol.
hmmm i'm actually tempted to get a wii and this (plus a few other games obv although only a few interest me) my only annoyance is the way you aim and shoot. hopefully i make sense here, but i don't like how when you aim you aim 'around the screen' then when your crosshairs get near to the edge of the screen you turn (if that makes sense), as a pose to your crosshairs always being fixed in the center of the screen. i dunno, just watching some videos the firegights look a bit kinda awkward i guess is the word. I'd be tempted to get a wii though like i say cus i bet it's a lot of fun online.
If you think about it, if the reticule is locked in the center, you have no way of knowing where exactly your remote is pointing on the TV (unless there was a separate cursor to represent that). It takes a bit to adjust to the style, but once you learn how, the precision combined with speed is rewarding and the only limitation is your hand eye coordination.
yeh actually. thinking about it with the wii mote you obv point at the part of the screen u wanna fire at. i'm sure it's just something that takes getting used to. hmm the wii is cheap but i think i'll hold out a bit more incase a price drop or 'improved' console is announced (although i guess this wudda happened at E3)
I finished the single campaign and the only thing that bugged me about this game was in the library of congress you see lots of artifacts when using the ASE but only there, the rest was awesome + great multiplayer. I say for Wii it's a 9.
Syronicus -- I don't know what games you've been playing. Metroid Prime 3 (soon be the entire Prime trilogy), The Conduit and MOH:H2 don't have "wanky" controls AT ALL. Especially with the customization in Conduit. All of the old complaints for Wii about turning speed and 180 turns are gone. Of course, if you play like people at demo booths (arms straight out), you won't be too precise. But sitting down with a chair's arm rest and pivoting from your wrist is another story. It's as close to a PC's mouse and keyboard as you'll get without going out and getting one (or an approximation of one, like the Frag FX). bjornbear -- I do wonder how many reviewers would take back all of those 10 scores for Halo 3 if they could...
I personally think this game is better than halo3, and yes I have a X360. just my opinion. BTW the HVS servers, which I think is what's being used; are really fast, spawning in less than 3 seconds most of the time. and best controller for an FPS ever, which I barely touched the default settings, only a bit tighter bounding box.
BTW playing last night with ERICHVS whom i think was ERIC NOFSINGER was cool, the guy kept getting first place as I got second place 3 times in a row with him, dude likes his game...lol good job.
i will be getting this game
condorstrike -- Better controls than Halo 3, yes (best console FPS controls ever). HVS doesn't touch Bungie for level design and art style, though. I don't really think too much of the plots for either franchise, tbh. But if I'm playing online and my choices are tighter controls or nicer graphics, I'm picking controls in a heartbeat. Once you leave dual analog behind, there's no going back.
I don't think you have played the game. This is classic level design here and guess what this seems to be the tip of the ice berg for real!
Scissor -- I have the game. Haven't had as much time to play through it as I'd like right now, though. But "classic level design"? Well, if by "classic" you mean fairly generic run and gun (go there, shoot that, next room), then I'd agree. As for the levels' layout, it's kinda bland, IMO. The graphics are fantastic, but the art design...not so much (this game doesn't even come close to touching Retro's artistry and level/room geometry in any of the Prime games). But that's because this is a first effort FPS. The controls are what make this game worth owning.
EvilTwin the difference is realism. You can not have crazy level lays out a platforms hanging in the air with realism. There is one level actualy a few they are pretty advanced, you will see them and when you do you will get sniped from another building as the glass breaks. There is even a sewer that saved my life in that level LOL. Art wise well go play UT series and you will see why not one cares about all that art. Go play cod and quake wars and you will fine a bunch of building and not floating platforms. I think I see what you are getting at but seriously play the game and tell me the mp level do not work.
Better luck next time. It's still a good game judging by the scores it's getting, but it's no AAA title worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Half-Life, Halo or Killzone 2. At least now the Wii has something capable online. Looking forward to trying it out!...as a rent.
The Conduit > Halo 3 for me in every aspect. Graphic's fit my taste perfectly. Nothing to flashy but enough to make you indebted to the game. Wii-Mote = Best way to play FPS. Especially for those of us who spent a lot of time in the arcades. Now that is your opinion but for me the Top 5 FPS, as of now would be Killzone 2, The Conduit, Half-Life, Metroid Prime, Halo 3. All in that order. For online mode its about the same but take out Metroid and move Halo 3 up and replace it with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare. The great FPS's of this generation are all great games. Killzone 2,The Conduit, Halo 3, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare.
Scissor -- I just don't think the layout is anything that special. Thus far, at least. If you've played any recent console FPS, you've pretty much played through similar situations to the Conduit. Just not with the great controls. N4Sony -- No, it's not a AAA title. It's a solid one. Nothing more, nothing less. But there's no way KZ2 should be put up there with Half Life or Halo. Those were genre-defining titles. Most of the reviews of KZ2 remarked about how it was good, but didn't really do anything new at all...which IS the same criticism going against Conduit now. Put shinier visuals on HVS's game, and it'd probably get scores in KZ2's league. Of course, KZ2's controls aren't in Conduit's league, either...
...Killzone 2 is the first FPS to have a full cover system, and the first game with a dynamic hit response system, and probably the best AI in a FPS (that I have seen, at least); so to say that it really doesn't do anything new is a little shortsighted. Rather, to say Half Life was a genre-defining FPS because they had competent dialogue and a meaty storyline is a rather glib accolade because it's storyline isn't that great; Deus Ex does several things better.
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