Head-to-head shootout between GT5 Prologue and Forza 2 by the Inside Sim Racing guys. InsideSimRacing is a show dedicated to the world of simulated motorsports.
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The Forza franchise is making Gran Turismo irrelevant.
Just know that there is a reason everyone tries to compare to Gran Turismo. Not Forza
I think you should play GT5 prologue then you'll know how irrelevant your comment is.
Forza has made Gran Turismo so irrelevent, Turn 10 are afraid of it.
Cthulhu is just pissing you guys off for fun because anyone who says that must have a few screws loose. :)
Its older than the internet itself. These guys aren't exactly respected in the sim community as well.
ha! Wait until Forza 3 releases! GT5 has to release after Forza 3 and match it in graphics/features/fun and gameplay. I can't wait for October. :D
What a bad kid. I'd rather wait for perfection than settle for anything else.
some one has been doing their homerwork. this will be this shows most popular yet, I am sure of it. @Cthulhu, you clearly have no clue what you are talkin about.. They are both two great franchises. As console racing fans, we are truly blessed to have both of these to chose from. And these two guys seems to agree, one gave Forza an overall score of 86 vs Gran Turismo's 85, and the other clearly prefers GT5 + G25 giving GT5 a 90 and Forza an 85. TheBand1t said... "I'd rather wait for perfection than settle for anything else." lol.... no really? lol.. That can't be, really? lol. oh wait, I think he is serious...
A troll comment doesn't really deserve a serious comment. So no, I'm not serious. :/
He thought I was actually going to attempt any logical response to a well known troll.
phew, for a sec, I was scared for ya.
But this is serious. I'm willing to wait on GT5 as I know it'll be something special. Patience is a virtue after all.
I'm sure it will be, but it wont keep me from enjoying what is looking to be a great console racer in just a few months. And GT5 is a day one purchase for me anyways, no matter when it comes out.
Trying to compare Forza to a demo, that's pretty sad.
irrelevant? they havent ever gone head to head this gen.
The only time they did forza 1 was obliterate by a lesser GT4
Can we just wait till both are on the market then judge which is better who has played either?
Edit damn they said forza 2 and GTP sorry false alarm
Forza 2 looks like:
These are the fruits of Turn 10's rampant GT bashing, to be publicly compared to GT5, to be considered on the same comparable level as Gran Turismo. I'm assuming that's the whole reason they're on a quest to prove there isn't a shred of class amongst their staff, when they put out their daily tirades against PD and GT. Just to achieve recognition as competition, by any means. Arcade racer in sim clothing, trying to take down the reigning, undisputed king. Too bad they don't approach it with integrity and let their game speak for itself. Instead they're spending all their time acting like your average forum troll.
come on now Mooey a shot of the console your parents let you play in your basement on daddies old cabinet TV is not at all what forza looks like. sheesh...
Outside of PS3 fanboy la la land racing sim fans like both franchises. Some people like Forza better and some people like Gran Turismo better. Personally, I like Forza better because of its greater customizability, better physics and better online options. Forza 3 is looking amazing and I think it is going to win over a whole bunch of new fans.
Um, well there goes the GT fans defence team. It's comparable if both games cost money. How much does GT5P cost anyway? I thought it cost like a full game. The release date, hurm.. So I say yes, it's comparable. Demo or not, both cost money. If Forza took longer time to develop, which do you think wins?
This is what Forza 2 looks like:
@Montrealien Keep dreaming, guy. I moved out of my house when I was 21. I'm working a steady, good-paying job buying games which I play on my PS3 and HDTV, both that I paid for with my hard-earned cash. Don't tell me your childhood. Now let's all laugh at Bob Dole's "definitive racing game"
Forza wins. Forza 3 is taking things to a whole new level. GT5P looks nowhere near as good as Forza 3. One day if GT5 ever comes out maybe we can compare it too.
I like GT5P for the better graphics, physics, more cars on tracks, and better drift mode. I like Forza 2 because IT'S A COMPLETE GAME. And the customization, good physics, and many different game modes. Needless to say, I'm looking foward to Forza 3 and GT5, as those two will be the two games that's really comparable. Comparing Forza 2 to GT5P is like comparing a cake that's already been baked to a cake that's still in the oven, and asking which tastes better.
Its been known for some time Forza's a racing SIM.
The overall scores where: Darin GT5P -73.1 & Forza 2 - 85.4 Shaun GT5P -75.6 & Forza 2 - 85.6 Full version av GT5 will probably be better if they get damage. But the same goes from forza. They complained about forza not having c0ckpit view and clutch. But both of these features will be in forza 3.
This came out of the N4G forums. Here's another video from the N4G forums. Perhaps someone with some good connections can get these "sim experts" to help GT become more lifelike.
I wonder if gt players know what is happening on this car.
I understand that reflection makes a car look unrealistic. Stupid unrealistic real stuff. I shoule really get all that reflection off of my stupid unrealistic car.
*edit* speaking of videos
that is a fan boy statement
Here's me and my car @ Thunderhill http://gotbluemilk.com/web0... Keep in mind, I'm an avid detailer. My car is always clayed and polished when necessary, and topped with FK1000p. So my car is as shiny as it gets. Here's GT5P for comparison http://www.cynamite.de/imgs... http://www.camaro5.com/foru... It's not overly shiny like the cars in Forza 3, (which I assume is what you're getting at JOLLY)
Words for what ? This "genius" start rating Forza 2 better in Physics than GT5 Prologue, I play both, and Forza 2 is almost ridiculous. About all other features, a must see (watch) because it becomes funny how they try to sell Forza. Idiots.
wow, if forza 2(!) is putting this kind of fear into the sony crowd I cant wait to see what damage FORZA 3 does
Well it's hard to believe that when all were seeing is how Turn 10 is trying to downplay and talk crap about GT5, it seems to me they're the ones scared and beating their chest to make themselves feel better about Forza 3. You just wait, GT5 is around the corner and that's when the real slaughter will begin.
Fear is what Turn 10 has shown the moment that Gran Turismo 5 trailer was shown. Even going as far as trying to rig a pointless internet pol with free download content (the unicorn car). Hell the psp version of Gran Turismo shows up Forza 3 with it having over 800 cars to Forza 3's 400. Now just imagine how many cars the ps3 version will have. It can very easily be over 1000 cars. Not to mention they have NASCAR AND THE WORLD RALLY CIRCUIT. Oh and one more thing they STILL have the better physics. And if that wasn't enough, they even have REALISTIC damage, not that arcade crap forza pulls. So with all that I can see why Turn 10 is trying so desperately to make everyone think they have the better product. I'd lie to my customers too if it meant more money in my pocket at the end of the day
LOL yeah right, that why professional racers actually use GT5 prologue to practice with, and the have replicated their real-life lap times with and professional drivers repeatedly claim to be the most accurate console simulator. and this video is all about american media marketing their american products.
couldnt agree more American Media hyping American products
Turn 10: "Lets make a RACING SIMULATOR, and to be cool, lets make a RACING SIMULATOR with a REWIND BUTTON."
Turn 10: "Dont ignore us! We are better than you! We have nothing to back that up, no evidence but we say it alot so it must be true"
T10: WE ARE THE DIFINITIVE!!!!!! MORE PPL LIKE OUR GAME THAN YOURS!!! PD:......But you lost the cnet poll.......and it was rigged in your favor T10: POLLS MEAN NOTHING TO US XBOTS ITS ALL ABOUT TEH SALEZ!!!! PD:......But GT1 sold more copies than both Forzas combined.... T10: JUST WAIT TIL FORZA3. GUINESS WILL RECORD OUR RECORD SALEZ!!! PD:......Sure. It'll go right next to your other guiness record....of losing a poll that YOU rigged. Me: lol
Gd one u 2, made my day XD
First off this is the Gamer Zone and it seems Sony folks can't control themselves from using fanboy terms that are banned in this area. I'm not seeing "droid" or anything mentioned in the Gamer Zone can't you people control yourselves enough to just knock those words and fanboy BS that belongs in the open zone out of your vocab? Now on to your comment. Did you watch the video? If you did you would know why your comment is wrong.
Are you calling us fanboys cuz we're making fun of an arrogant game developer or cuz we're making fun of an arrogant game developer that works for Microsft? Cuz if its the latter, guess who that makes the fanboy.
No, you're fanboys because you are not even discussing the topic and are just acting like idiots. You are also fanboys for thinking that Turn 10 is being arrogant. Gran Turismo has "the real driving sim" or something like that on the box and you guys don't bat an eyelid. I don't see the difference. They both sounds arrogant if you want to construe them that way. Forza has been a strong competitor for Gran Turismo for a long time and Forza 3 looks like it is upping the ante. If you guys aren't honest enough to see that then, yes, you are simply being fanboys.
I didnt know the definition of fanboy was "someone who doesnt discuss the topic" And if thinking turn 10 is arrogant makes me a fanboy then 92% of the population are fanboys too. Having "the real driving simulator" on the GT5 box is nothing compared to turn 10's arrogance. And no..... Forza has not been a serious competitor to GT CUZ PD HASNT EVEN RELEASED A FULL GAME YET!!! See?........ it helps to think b4 you type. Learn to take a joke.
@GiantEnemyCrab You clearly calling out a Sony fanboy but yet you ignore the first post by Cthulhu (Post #1 by the way). @SaberEdge You call Polyphony Digital arrogant because the have the logo "The real driving simulation," but yet you ignore all the trash talking Turn-10 as been talking over the past week and a half. Polyphony Digital has not even respond or talk back trash to Turn-10. That class and something Turn-10 is clearly missing. You sir is arrogant base on your comments so far in this article.
It IS the real driving simulator.
"It IS the real driving simulator"...in the minds of Sony fanboys. There, fixed. "CUZ PD HASNT EVEN RELEASED A FULL GAME YET!!!" Oh really, exgamerlegends, is that so? I guess I must have imagined playing GT3 and GT4...since PD have never released a full game. Come on, man, we're talking about Forza going up against GT4 etc. which were out around the same time. I think Forza is better. You know, based on all the comments I have been reading it sounds like the Sony fanboys are the ones that are arrogant. I think they are the last people in the world that should be calling out the Forza developers.
For starters, its not just the "Sony Fanboys" who think turn 10 need to shut up and that GT is superior to Forza. You're deluding yourself if you think this is the case.
Secondly, we are not being arrogant at all. We are simply confident in the quality of racer that Poliphony Digital puts out. I personally have not been dissappointed by any GT and have yet to be impressed by any other racing game outside of Motorstorm and BO: Revenge (yeah, a 360 exclusive) this gen.
did any1 watch it? Was it a good comparison?
why would anyone watch two guys comparing a full game to a demo? by the way i like the forza series more but cant wait for gran turismo mobile for my psp... that thing never gets used. thank god it s on umd. and if thats good and th gameplay for GT is better than forza (i know the graphics will be amazing polyphony+ps3=everything gorgeous but i still prefer 360 ;).) thn im eriously tempted to go buy a PS3 for this and Uncharted 2.
lol, say what you want but GT prologue was a fully boxed 40$ product. a comparison is more than fair. i seriously cant believe theyve made forza 2 AND forza 3 even before 1 GT game was even realeased.hell, GT5 STILL doesnt have a release date!! you can be shure itll be sometime in late 2010 thats for shure. ill be enjoying forza 3 in the meantime lol
If thats all thats required for a comparison then Forza can be compared to alotta things lol. GT5 will prolly be out this holiday. The game devs can release it whenever they want. They just like to make sure everything works. This is where turn 10 and Polyphony Digital differ.
You're right, they like to take forever and then still put out a game that scores in the 80s http://www.metacritic.com/g... The Forza developers make a great game that scores above 90 and do it in half the time http://www.metacritic.com/s... Ever since Forza has come on the scene it has been my favorite and I know a lot of people feel the same way. Of course Sony fans are going to say that Gran Turismo is the best, but does that really mean anything?
Its funny how the only one you show is gt4 http://www.metacritic.com/s... Notice all the high 90's lol. If you know someone is gonna see through your deception you should switch tactics or......... wait for it............................ TROLL HARDER!!!
GT hasn't scored in the 90's since 2001. Keep living in the past if you want - the rest of us live in 2009.
46 minutes? screw that. but why are they comparing a game to a beta? so much fail....
GT5 Sucks its the same garbage with more cars and new tracks, the only good GT was GT3 the rest well they are the same junk. GT5 for the loosing PS3 team and fandboys.
GT5P lack this an that -_- did anyone read the part about GT5P being a demo??? yeah that is pretty much what it is people a demo so that people (PS3 users) have a GT game to play until GT5 comes out. So I think they did a poor job mostly because it was a demo Vs a full game.
You're comparing what is basically a glorified beta to a full game.
This is a video with the last Forza game compared to the last Gran Turismo game. Not too hard to understand. but hey... you're right though. Best time for a video like this will be better when GT5 and Forza 3 is out for sure.
I saw this months upon months ago. And i'd disagree, just cause Forza is "Easier" doens't mean its more realistic. Being able to drift like a champ in forza with little experience = FAIL.
These guys must be paid off by MS!! (snicker!)
No, Turn 10 offered them a free in-game car to rig this in favor of Forza 2.
I noes it!!1111!
Screw the DLC I bet these guys got real Unicorns!
No, but really. Comparing a beta to a full game seems odd.
07:48.608 Mini Cooper S
07:08.608 Porsche 997 GT3 RS
Who here sees a problem with this?
Forza is a glorified Arcade racer period! GT is authenticity at its finiest from car performance numbers to tracks. All of which are second to none in authenticity and replication.
You also didn't mention whether the cars were stock or not. So I wouldn't be boasting anything based on that. Also, GTR by simbin has every sim racer on consoles beat, and has had them beat for a long long time.
you know you can customize cars in forza right? including performance parts...
well apparently GT doesnt have that feature cause you seem to not know anything about it.