630°
Submitted by DJ 1871d ago | article

Forza Developer Using Bribes to Skew CNET Poll

PlayStation LifeStyle writes: "We live in a very competitive world, and this is apparent in the video game industry where publishers and developers are constantly trying to get a leg up on their competition, whether it's through clever marketing or brilliant feats of engineering. But what is NOT acceptable is when a publisher or developer uses bribes to gain an advantage. Che Chou, the community manager at Turn 10, has done exactly this, and we feel compelled to inform our readers about the dishonest tactics that the Forza Motorsport developer has chosen to carry out." (Forza Motorsport 3, Gran Turismo 5, PS3, Xbox 360)

Alternative Sources
« 1 2 3 4 5 »
TheHater  +   1872d ago
Wait WTF?
I wasn't aware of this. Now that I am aware of the situation, I honestly don't know what to think about Turn-10.
qface64  +   1872d ago
im jumping in line as well o.o
jessehaysfl  +   1872d ago
EA is staging protests now this? .......I'm starting to hate marketing people.
evrfighter  +   1872d ago
I voted for a unicorn.

I just need to buy a 360 now =\
lord_of_balrogs  +   1872d ago
You guys realize the Turn 10 manager was joking about the free car right? He's just saying vote for Forza 3, the bribe is apparently a rare car in Forza 2. But he was joking about giving away the rare cars.
shingo  +   1871d ago
LMAO
Seriously. It's getting ridiculous, Turn 10.

If anything, all these stories prove Turn 10 are very scared of GT5. And I can confirm from now that GT5 will rip Forza 3's ass later this year (yes GT5 is likely to come out Dec. 09). Just wait and see.
#1.5 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(22) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
sonarus  +   1871d ago
What makes it funny is that how does a cnet poll = sales
InfectedDK  +   1871d ago
BUSTED - Welcome on the front page

Loool.. Agreed.
LOL they are very desperate..
Am I the only one that hasn't played the full finished GT 5 yet?
I remember the MS conference "Our game is better than GT","Our game is better than GT","Our game is better than GT","Our game is better than GT","Our game is better than GT",.. Basically that's what they were saying.. Sounded like brainwash lol..

Gran Turismo is THE KING.
Cry desperate Turn-10.. - Let the gamers decide, stop your unfair business and s..t the f... up.. - Sorry had to, they asked for it.
#1.7 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(12) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
Megaton  +   1871d ago
They're acting so incredibly petty and childish. Their game wasn't even on my radar before, now it is, as a negative blip. They're staining their own image more than Polyphony or GT's.
eelnats2000  +   1871d ago
to all those saying they were joking
even if they really werent giving away free cars, the fact is, that people thought that they did.
And because of it, they voted thinking that it wasnt a joke.

This then resulted in an unfair advantage against GT.

SO YES, it is still a bribe. The briber just didnt keep his word.
ZuperAmazingCooKie  +   1871d ago
And Xbox fangirls still trust metacritic, gamespot, CNet and reviews in general
I wonder to what length did MSFT have to go to get all those unwarranted 10s for the Halo, Gears and Forza franchises

Trivia: Che chou is very good friends with former co-worker Dan Hsu @ EGM & 1up, that sellout. Is anyone surprised?????
PAPERCHASER0396  +   1871d ago
Boils Down To
That sweet commercial " Other companies compare themselves to Toyota...Why not just buy a Toyota. Same with Forza and turn 10 they keep comparing themselves to GT.... lol
jcgamer  +   1871d ago
I'm getting really tired of hearing about Danny Boy and the Turn-10 Funky Bunch...lol
"Gran Turismo 5...There is no Substitute."

lol :)
eagle21  +   1871d ago
They are so lame.
Turd-10 confirmed. :)
#1.13 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(18) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
TheBrit  +   1871d ago
How is this any different
Than say burger King offering free toys with their kids meals that you cant get at a McDonald? Tying up the Jungle book toy license so that all of the kids have to eat their food in order to get the plastic kid figurine or whatever?
darthv72  +   1871d ago
forza forums only.....
People need to get off this. It only applies to those who go to the forza forums and post how they vote. It isnt cnet at all. Team forza is confident (or scared) and wants to know how you vote and gives you a free car to use in forza 2. So go figure it would only apply to those who have forza 2.

Maybe...just maybe...forza is a better "arcade" racer than GT? I personally like the simplicity of an arcade racer. The sim type is way to complex for my old brain. Having to know about inflation ratio and spring tension is like bla bla bal, bla bla bla bla. To those who like the sim, more power to you.

Just give me a fast car and an open track and I am happy.
GWAVE  +   1871d ago
People are rushing to defend Turn-10 and act as if it's no big deal, but before this information was released, these same people were using the EXACT SAME POLL as some sort of "proof" that Forza 3 will be better than GT 5.

Oh, the hypocrisy. It smells delicious.
40cal  +   1871d ago
06/10/2009 1:00pm
Gran Turismo 5 49% (13101 votes)
Forza Motorsport 3 51% (13409 votes)

Yesterday it was at 30% Gran Turismo and 70% Forza. Turn 10 failed at trying to sku this poll.

Oh, and this is a quote from Turn 10 from yesterdays article.

"I want my kids and my grandma to be able to play"

That is all the proof I need to come to the conclusion that Gran Turismo will remain the Real Driving Simulator.
edgeofblade  +   1871d ago
It's an internet poll. It already has the validity of a not guilty plea from Michael Jackson. Why is everyone acting surprised that someone is actively working to skew the results? I mean, for once, shilling for a company has some positive effect... free content.
gameplayer  +   1871d ago
This place rocks!
What's hilarious is that all the whining that consistently comes from the same 30 fanboys that comment on EVERY thread is driving every single forza article to the top of the page! For every fanboy that comments on N4G there is probably a hundred gamers that never look at comments, ever. All they see when they come to N4G is 5 or 6 hot articles at the top of the page and they all say Forza rocks. The sheer stupidity of fanboys is overwhelming!
JokesOnYou  +   1871d ago
oh please, stop the crying...it was on a Forza forum, and open internet polls are always skewed by fanboys...
First micro doesn't control what a Forza dev says.

Second its an "internet poll", what difference is it really going to make for anybody besides fanboys?, you guys are acting as if they went to PD studio's and sabotaged all their dev work which caused GT5's long delay. lol

Third both games are great, Forza3 is visually on par with GTP but until GT series brings more than just graphics I do believe it surpasses GT and he has every right to be proud of how badass Forza3 looks/plays.

Fourth although I agree that the last GT4 didn't do much besides better graphics, I still think it was a mistake talking down about GT, because truthful or not the naysayers will always hate you and twist it into somekind of gross evil on your part no matter how much credit you give to that same franchise in the same interview by basicly saying it was your motivation/inspiration for making your own game, which you feel is even better.= Thats just not allowed by non-sony devs.

Fifth why does this matter so much to sony folks, you're all going to buy GT5 when it comes out anyway right? lmfao Its not like anybodys going to base their purchase descision on a poll from CNET. Its like making a big deal about the news vid I saw where one journalist noted that sony gave "free" tickets to a bunch of ps fans to attend their E3 conference because obviously they would go crazy for everything sony showed, which gave the illusion that the "live audience" was more excited for sony's show compared to the other E3 shows. Yeah, this IS briefly referenced in one of those E3 vids. Is that not "bribing" or misleading people to create a false impression that what you have to offer is more popular?...but really so what? Those folks sony chose to attend REALLY do like sony's stuff and the forum members had they known about CNET poll would have undoubtedly voted for Forza3 anyway.

JOY
#1.20 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(21) | Report | Reply
shingo  +   1871d ago
LOL 51% for GT5, 49% for Forza 3
I just checked the poll result.. It's funny that this act turned10 against Forza 3 XD
#1.21 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(8) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
Rock Bottom  +   1871d ago
Haha, even with bribes they can't beat GT.
menoyou  +   1871d ago
Microsoft has been doing this for the 360 all generation long. Why do you think they only use 360 controllers on TV and 360 games in competitions and 360 box art for multi-platform games at GameTrailers, reviewers saying they got free Halo Xbox360s, and more.

People like to cry "conspiracy theory", but here it is... cold hard fact.
#1.23 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(11) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
Rainstorm81  +   1871d ago
Whoa Tazmanian Devil
"Is that not "bribing" or misleading people to create a false impression that what you have to offer is more popular?..." - JOY

First it seems that you are implying that The crowd excitement displayed at Sony's press conf was fake and what you heard from one "news journalist" is true. and im dying to know which BTW

Second IF they did, Sony's press conf couldve ended up being some garbage and ended up with the opposite (nintendo) effect. There was no guarantee that anyone was going to automatically like, let alone be excited enough to shout at anyones conference

So no its not the same.
#1.24 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply
eagle21  +   1871d ago
@joy. Forza is wack. Period.
I don't care what you say, GT5 will topple forza for good. :)
JokesOnYou  +   1871d ago
lol, are you trying to say I made it up?....
"First it seems that you are implying that The crowd excitement displayed at Sony's press conf was fake"

-No, No I'm not, read carefully because thats exactly what I'm saying about this internet poll bribe= it was on a Forza forum, which means its most likely the majority of the folks there would definitely vote for Forza vs GT if they were asked to participate in a poll, which is exactly why he wanted them to vote, its more of fun thing than anything that matters once the games are released.

-And yes I watched alot of E3 websites vids I can't remember which one it was from but I'm sure other folks saw it too, where two journalists were talking about their E3 impressions and one commented that the crowd got really excited during sonys show and then the other chimed in by basicly saying well thats because sony UNLIKE nintendo and micro actually gave out free tickets specifically to ps fans for their specific show, OBVIOUSLY these people were "grateful" and of course they liked what they saw and cheered loudly to support sony but my point is Sony obviously knew this would "help" give the impression to the viewers at home that people in the audience were more excited about sonys show compared to nintendo/micro's. In the end when I watched I couldn't tell either way, the crowd seem just as excited about both shows at different points so maybe it didn't translate that well when watching on TV. Its not a big deal, its all advertising and PR stunts, I'm not condoning it but out right lying about something being real gameplay when its not is alot different. lol

JOY
cmrbe  +   1871d ago
Sheez
talk about damage control. Joy give it up. You sound lame with every post you try to defend Turn 10 in this thread.

This really goes to show how low these guys will go to undermine GT.

I bet this is just the tip of the Ice Berg of what Turn 10 will do up to the release of their game to undermine GT.

MS knows that they can never have a franchise as highly regarded as GT so what they do instead is undermine it.

GT fans should leave it alone. Froza 3 is crap. I have seen the E3 trailer and i have no idea why people are comparing it to GT. Turn 10 just wants their game to be compared to GT for publicity.
socomnick  +   1871d ago
@1.15

"The sim type is way to complex for my old brain. Having to know about inflation ratio and spring tension is like bla bla bal, bla bla bla bla. To those who like the sim, more power to you."

No worries m8, forza 3 has an auto tune feature for people new to hardcore sim racers. The way they explained forza was that if you are new to sim racers you could still play and then slowly build yourself up until you are ready to sim with all the helpers off and with real life physics.
prunchess  +   1871d ago
It's CNET people...
They've been posting articles about the demise of Blu Ray, the PS3 and most things Sony since the PS3 launched. They probably gave Turn 10 the nod about their poll.
Aquanox  +   1871d ago
Now that the Sony boys in that website ran off technical arguments against Forza, they are lurking over the web to find other stupid stuff to talk about.

How about writting an article wondering why Turn 10 will have released 3 Forzas (Yes, 3 full games) since GT4 launch, all of them available before GT5 even sees the light of day. Second question might also be why all of them will surpass GT4 in ratings. (In case somebody want to pull off a Need4Speed excuse)

Now that would be nice to be posted around here.
JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   1871d ago
PlayStation LifeStyle LOL
rockleex  +   1871d ago
Wait...
So PS3 fans are crybabies for complaining about Turn10's arrogance and bribery?

But its perfectly fine for Xbox fans to complain about Sony's arrogance and lies?

You know what? Its not even really bribing though. They're just encouraging people to go vote for their game with a little added incentive! Its the equivalent of paying someone off to make sure you win a competition!

Oh wait, that IS bribing! >_<

@Jason 360

Yup PS Lifestyle... with a link to the official Forza forums where the bribing is happening.
#1.32 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(7) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply
rockleex  +   1871d ago
GT5 still ended up winning. ^_^
http://reviews.cnet.com/830...
darkmurder  +   1871d ago
Its obvious he's joking, then you just need to look at the site PS... god is everything xbox the bloody antichrist?
DoucheVader  +   1871d ago
GT5 won!
YAY!
waltercross  +   1871d ago
I Don't really care who wins, or even what one is better.
I'm not really a Racing Sim fan.

However, How is he Joking?
He never said, Just kidding etc, to me there are some
that are defending the actions by this developer by
saying he was joking, CNET didn't think it was a joke
either, They closed the poll because of it.

It's bribery, Bribing is when one offers a service
or good to persuade the other from doing something.

Yeah That's bribing, and I Don't think many care much about
who wins the poll but rather how this Developer went about
recieving It's products votes.
So as gamers this should be concerning.
Sarcasm  +   1871d ago
"Editor's note: After numerous complaints of cheating and in-game content being offered as payment for votes, I've decided to close the poll. Way to ruin the fun for the rest of us, guys."
thesummerofgeorge  +   1871d ago
@TheBrit
That was the most idiotic statements I've heard in a long time. Offering a free product with a purchase as incentive to buy it is different than bribing voters to tip the scales in their direction.... It's interfering with a poll, people aren't voting for the best game, they're voting for a bribe.... As if I needed to explain that to you, I mean really, by your logic, bribing voters in a presidential election is no different than Domino's offering 2 for 1 pizzas for the same price as 1 from Pizza Hut.

Time to lay off the paint chips bra!
All-3  +   1871d ago
A judge has finalised a settlement in which film studio Sony will pay $1.5m (&#163;850,000) to film fans after using a fake critic to praise its mo...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/...

A judge has finalised a settlement in which film studio Sony will pay $1.5m (£850,000) to film fans after using a fake critic to praise its movies.

In 2001, ads for films including Hollow Man and A Knight's Tale quoted praise from a reviewer called David Manning, who was exposed as being invented.

People who saw the films in the US can now get a $5 (£2.80) refund from Sony's pay-out, lawyer Norman Blumenthal said.

Sony did not admit liability in the settlement and declined to comment.

The studio reached the out-of-court agreement to settle the case and avoid the cost and uncertainty of litigation, according to a court notice.

The settlement was agreed last year but has only just been approved by Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Carolyn Kuhl.

If the full $1.5m is not claimed, any money left over will go to charity, Mr Blumenthal said.

'Fabricated quotes'

Promotional material for other films including The Patriot, Vertical Limit and The Animal also carried quotes from "David Manning of The Ridgefield Press".

He supposedly called Heath Ledger "this year's hottest new star" for his role in A Knight's Tale, said The Animal was "another winner" and Hollow Man was "one hell of a scary ride".

But The Ridgefield Press, a small paper in Connecticut, said David Manning had never worked for them.

Sony temporarily suspended two employees following an internal investigation into "fabricated quotes on four movie ads".
Buttons  +   1870d ago
@All-3
Good job Mr. Cadence, you somehow managed to transform a discussion about Turn 10 and driving games into a topic about Sony. Fanboy (imbecile) alert.
#1.40 (Edited 1870d ago ) | Agree(8) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply
All-3  +   1870d ago
Good job Mr. Cadence, you somehow managed to transform a discussion about Turn 10 and driving games into a topic about Sony. Fanboy (imbecile) aler...
LOL!

When you actually learn how to read and comprehend all the comments in this thread, perhaps you'll see why I posted that article. Until then - shut up.
RSX  +   1870d ago
All-3
Wtf was that, and why did you post it here? I read a bit of it then i thaught wtf why am I reading this nonsense.

Did you post it because you felt you had to find Sony Bribeing so you can say "Yh well Sony bribe too, see!" Come on man what take two did was wrong I dont know why some people are trying to defend them.
ukilnme  +   1870d ago
I have to agree. This looks like a bribe to me. It won't stop me from buying Forza 3 though.
Nineball2112  +   1870d ago
I just checked...
The poll is closed and the results are:

Gran Turismo 5 52% (15731 votes)
Forza Motorsport 3 48% (14530 votes)

LOL... Seems like a fail to me Turn 10.
RebornSpy  +   1870d ago
I hope everyone realizes...
that this story is by Playstation Lifestyle. I'm not saying that it's not at least based on a true story, but I feel that the site may have distorted or exaggerated the truth in order to turn people against Forza and Turn-10.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust any kind of 360-related articles from a pro-Sony site, or any Playstation-related articles from a pro-Xbox site... Too much bias.
Buttons  +   1870d ago
@1.41
Calm down there a bit buddy, or you might just lose 'All-3' of your bubbles.
thesummerofgeorge  +   1870d ago
@RebornSpy
If you look at the comments under the poll, or go to the Forza forum in the link in the article, you'll see people confirming what the article said, so it's not made up by Playstation Lifestyle. You should really read the whole article before making assumptions, seeing as they support their claims with evidence and you don't.
#1.47 (Edited 1870d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply
rucky  +   1872d ago
Turn-10
Lame Booooooooooooo!
DJ  +   1872d ago
Wow
The admins took this down in seconds.
Mu5afir  +   1872d ago
SAD..
IT seems, N4G might be getting some of the $$$ from Turn 10 too.
randomwiz  +   1872d ago
wow, the forza devs really want to make themselves feel better for having a game worse than the competition. Don't get me wrong, forza looks pretty fun but...

Turn10: Finally, we finished forza 3. This will be the best racing game
Turn10: dammit... GT5 looks better than our game.
Turn10: uh oh, we might actually lose the cnet poll.
Turn10: Tell them we'll give them a free unicorn, and later we can say we were just joking.
Polyphony Digital: Let's not release GT5 yet, they were foolish enough to give a demo at e3. now we know how their game feels. Lets make ours better than theirs.
#4 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(15) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply
D4RkNIKON  +   1871d ago
lol nicely put
LCF  +   1871d ago
Thing is that PD already released a purchasable demo (GT:P) on the PS store and retail(I got the download). On a graphics stand points the GT:P STILL looks better then the shots/bullshots and HD videos that Ive seen of forza 3 and the fact that this is a 2 disc RACER in this day in age is still pretty funny. GT5 will be massive and packed with features and a graphical tour de force only capable on ONE Blu-ray disc.

Dont be surprise to see more of this as time goes on, when games will become even bigger and Microsoft's 1st and 2nd developer's (whats left) backs are against the wall. Turn 10 is like a little shrew that is cornered.
prunchess  +   1871d ago
By the time Forza 3 is released Turn 10 and MS will be hysterical....
The onslaught of trash that'll be posted by then about Forza 3 will be incessant. Undoubtedly underlining the weakness of the game.

Forza 3 will be the "spin too far" for MS.
XLiveGamer  +   1872d ago
So lets see... mmm wait how this guys from PS found about this? Well sneaking on Forza forums right?

How did i find out about this CNET Poll? Well... here when i turn of my Xbox 360 and Forza game off. He is complaining about this? well lets see what if all Forza gamers pass more time in Xbox Live than wandering the net and don't find out about this? The poll will be more in favor of GT5 because PS gamers don't spend the same quality time on PSN than Forza gamers because they are still waiting for a GT game. By the way Who the Fnck care about a poll based on Gamers opinion right now when both games haven't been released?

Does this make Turn 10 cheaters? No this make them Smart! Who the hell owning forza and Xbox Live its going to have time to surf on CNET and find that poll? This B.S. is like the >>> Agree and Disagree <<< option here. Here in N4G you find more PS fans than PC or Xbox fans so guess what im going to end up with more disagrees than agrees for this comment. I always smile when i see all this Xbox haters commenting here like every single minute against everything Xbox and they say PSN and online games on PS3 rules over Xbox Live. What happen in your Home and Online Service? Bored?
#5 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(10) | Report | Reply
Conan997  +   1871d ago
it was on n4g for a good half hour yesterday...before being taken down by the mods
waltercross  +   1871d ago
The poll isn't concerning, It's the bribe.
Catharsis  +   1872d ago
Wow...how pathetic, didn't think any dev would go this far. Tells you something.
Foxgod  +   1872d ago
This is called motivating people to go and vote.
Not bribing.

Bribing would be paying people that would vote GT5, to vote for Forza 3.

Do you honestly think that people would vote forza 3 to get a free in game car if they dont even own a 360 ?
#7 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(7) | Disagree(23) | Report | Reply
devilhunterx  +   1872d ago
spinning like a fish ...
Knightrid808  +   1872d ago
...
How blind do you have to be to not see that is bribing?

If you looked at the article, even users of the forum were leaning toward GT5 but went on and voted for Forza 3. Hmm, I bet a car that's worth millions in Forza 3's auction house given away for free just by a few words and clicks.
cyberwaffles  +   1872d ago
that's exactly what they're doing! a bribery is where somebody offers something in order to gain an advantage. that something can be anything from money, gold, diamonds, to even diapers. the whole point is someone is trying to manipulate somebody's vote for their benefit instead of a true unbiased decision on which game looks better.

i'm not going to lie, i was thinking about voting for forza 3 when i heard turn 10 was supposedly going to give away those unicorns, but i realized it had to have been a lie. nobody would just give away multi million dollar cars for a website to give good poll ratings for a game. and it would seem petty for me to do that anyways.

turn 10 is starting to piss me off as developers. they're being stupid arrogant bastards and i'm going to love it when polyphony puts them in their place.
SpoonyRedMage  +   1872d ago
They weren't giving away real cars!*facepalm*

They were giving them to people in game but according to lord_of_balrogs they were joking anyway.
cyberwaffles  +   1872d ago
@7.4
thats what i was thinking, that they were giving an in game model of the unicorn, but when they mentioned the price i imagined they were talking about the real deal.

also, it's obvious it was a lie/joke. the point is that turn 10 knows people are going to be foolish enough to believe it. they're trying to make it seem as though it was a unintentional but they know it can still skew poll results and that's what they were doing.
Trebius  +   1871d ago
@Foxgod
Please dont take this the wrong way...I mean this in the most respectful way and I mean it...but you are the most delusional, hopeless, ad-driven, fanboy I have ever witnessed on any forum and or website...

I hope you realize praising false idols is punishable by eternal torment in the fiery seas of hell.

(If you're religious of course)

Please dont take that the wrong way though...You're just hopeless...

Take it as constructive criticism...I really dont want to sound like i'm attacking or insulting you...

but you are the closest thing there is to sheep in the human world.
Kleptic  +   1871d ago
since foxgod obviously does not know the definition of the term 'bribe'...here it is...

bribe (brb)
n.
1. Something, such as money or a favor, offered or given to a person in a position of trust to influence that person's views or conduct.
2. Something serving to influence or persuade.
Erotic Sheep  +   1871d ago
Dont bother with Foxgod, he never finished school so all these difficult words are new and strange to him. Best to just nod, smile and wave him goodbye as he leaves in the special yellow bus..
Shendow  +   1872d ago
lol
Its kind of sad and the funny part is that GT5 isn't even done, so even if Forza 3 comes out before GT5.....well when GT5 comes then people be just like what??? but?!? oh man I got to get a new system :( be better off owning both but oh well.
KionicWarlord222  +   1872d ago
This isnt going stop the game from coming out.

:)
mastiffchild  +   1871d ago
WTF? Who wants it to? More to the point , for me anyways as someone who enjoys both GT and Forza games despite their differences, is that the behaviour of Greeny and T10 is turning me off buying their games.

I wouldn't buy a PS3 at launch because Sony were so out of line back then at the start of this generation and only after their castigation by the press, rightly dished out too, and subsequent change of attitude did I feel able to part with my hard earned for one. T10 have been far more outrageous this last week with their bravado, arrogance and finally badmouthing of the competition(who they likely owe a debt to for making the genre popular in the first place)and they've lost me as a customer as I don't want to reward this carry on in any way.

With their talk of "definitive" they tread a very tight line too. They can't just pip PD's game if they say that. No, they must beat it out of sight on every count(or nearly) and so far all we know is that PD's game is the better looking of the two-not a great start, is it?

I don't want the game to fail, just the behaviour to change so I feel comfortable that my cash isn't lining the pockets of a bunch of douchebags. I find it odd that more people aren't a little annoyed by them tbh. I consider myself a fan of their games but I don't feel I'd be keeping my own standards if I let this crap slide.
Kleptic  +   1871d ago
^^totally agree...

I would love to hear a credible argument as to how its the 'definitive' racing game of this generation...when the only thing we have to compare to the direct competition so far is visuals...and in that case, you guessed it, the competition has easily beaten it...

thats far from a good start...but this is expected...Forza 3 is a 2.5 year endeavor...GT5 has been nearly 5 years so far, and it won't even release this year...

and now we know GT5 has damage...and other features (such as GTTV, dynamic weather, and double the number of cars as Forza 3)...it makes this entire argument even funnier...those are all features that forza 3 does NOT have...so what makes it the definitive racing game then?...

someone above made a good point...turn 10 is so desperate to be noticed next to the juggernaut that is GT, that they in a way are simply advertising for GT5...not that GT5 will really need it...but this gets funnier and funnier by the day...
Tacki  +   1872d ago
The real question is...
Why would Turn 10 even bother to do this? It's a little online poll. It means absolutely nothing. Winning it wouldn't reap any great benefits for them. I can't say I'm exactly 'mad' about this as I don't see the point. It's rather dumb if you ask me.
Knightrid808  +   1872d ago
They can use that rigged poll as a mean of commercial exposure. What if they advertise their game and then mention how users of the Cnet site preferred Forza 3.
decimalator  +   1871d ago
Which is why it is retarded of them to try to stack the vote. Mean-nothing poll turns into PR nightmare and makes you look desperate.
thereapersson  +   1872d ago
WTF?
I don't understand why this would happen...
OGharryjoysticks  +   1872d ago
LOSERS
But I bet they win the poll. Not because they are bribing their own fans that probably didn't need to be bribed anyway, but because Microsoft fans are ALL online while Playstation fans don't really care about the internet like that. Honestly what gamer goes to CNET...LOL. Who cares.
kevnb  +   1872d ago
not a n4g gamer
and there are plenty of playstation fans here, I don't know what you are going on about.
TheBrit  +   1871d ago
urm
I go to CNET all the time - try it some time.
It is one of the better sites out there for reviewing audio and video components and they also own download.com which is where a ton of downloads come from on the net.

Don't knock it.
decimalator  +   1871d ago
Uhhhh... if Playstation fans aren't online, then how do these retarded fanboy flame wars get started? Are Xboxers pretending to be PS fanboys? Wtf?
OGharryjoysticks  +   1871d ago
TheBrit
Don't mean to knock one of your sites. All I'm saying is CNET is not a site gamers go to usually because games are not the focus there. I don't buy pizza from the steakhouse.

Oh and decimalator. I figure Microsoft fans are not only 360 owners but computer lovers hence the name Microsoft...like as in Windows, everybody with a computer basically has it. Playstation doesn't have that. Sure they have free online but studies have shown that the PS3 market is older and by averages I'm guessing the great majority don't waste time trolling the internet over videogames. Maybe I'm wrong, but mathmatically I like the odds I'm right.
#12.4 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply
waltercross  +   1871d ago
CNET is good, I Love download.com, but I Wouldn't go
to CNET for gaming news.
BRubble  +   1872d ago
whoa! what a sad attempt of smear tactics. An all new low. Pathetic.
InfectedDK  +   1871d ago
Agreed.
LOL they are very desperate..
Am I the only one that hasn't played the full finished GT 5 yet?
I remember the MS conference "Our game is better","Our game is better","Our game is better","Our game is better","Our game is better",.. Sounded like brainwash lol..
yaygames  +   1871d ago
its official.

TURN 10, the pricks of the gaming world

clap, clap, clap...
NegativeCreep427  +   1871d ago
Hey this is Microsofts M.O.
Its only natural that it would eventually rub off on Turn 10.
lociefer  +   1871d ago
have sympathy u guyz , they are obviously scared shltless of this monster called GT5, + M$ checks just prbably arrived , so they are facing a self confidence crysis , lol srlsy gt5 trailer makes fartza look like childplay
Stubacca  +   1870d ago
What total retards
It's almost like they are TRYING to come across as pathetic and desperate. Why can't Turn 10 just talk about their own game and leave it at that. There's an army of 17 year old offensive, racist american kids who will buy it, play it and defend it for them.

Make games, not war.
TheOutsider  +   1870d ago
FORZA F**KEN SUCKS!!
And THATS WHYS ^!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
devilsoultaker1   1872d ago | Spam
ultimolu  +   1872d ago
Insecure about your game, aren't ya?
And this fails approval again. LOL.
#15 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
kevnb  +   1872d ago
meh
you would have to be a forza fan to even want a "unicorn" in the first place... who cares. they certainly aren't bribing me. Everyone should vote for GT just to spite them. Imagine if they bribed us with a copy of gt5 prologue to vote for forza? My other question, why does playstation lifestyle even care or post this? Why do they even know about it?
#16 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply
CryofSilence  +   1872d ago
I smell the scent of fear over at Turn 10.
SpoonyRedMage  +   1872d ago
OMFG Turn 10 are giving Forza 2 owners who go on the Forza forums a free car in Forza 2 if they vote for them in a poll!!!! OMFG. They're practically handing out bags of money!

The only people that are getting bribed are Forza fans and if they had to vote they'd probably vote for Forza anyway...

Can't say the source surprises me though.
#18 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(2) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply
Halo3 MLG Pro  +   1872d ago
LMAO. Playstation Lifestyle?

You guys seriously think the developers care about some stupid poll? If you do than you need some medical attention. I swear you guys are getting sillier and sillier. :p
#19 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(3) | Disagree(7) | Report | Reply
kevnb  +   1872d ago
oh its legit
even if completely foolish all around.
snipermk0  +   1871d ago
Why don't you crawl back into your 100 polygon halo 3 universe and just STFU?
Mu5afir  +   1871d ago
They cared enough..
to give out DL content to people who would VOTE.
DNAgent  +   1872d ago
lol
They needed to bribe people into voting for Forza 3? I guess it's not the definitive racing game this gen. GT5 easily beats it and they know it otherwise they wouldn't have to bribe anybody.
BRubble  +   1872d ago
we'll see when both come out...Im sure they will both have their merits.
DoucheVader  +   1871d ago
Well...
If the devs are giving away stuff in trade for votes, perhaps they don't have that much confidence in it.
Shaka2K6  +   1872d ago
Forza Developers already losing faith in their game they have to bribe people to hype this trash game now? Horrible!
.
devilsoultaker1   1872d ago | Spam
cyberwaffles  +   1872d ago
look at the forum posts. they're real.
devilsoultaker1   1872d ago | Spam
W S K  +   1872d ago
hmmm... o_O
i dont see this as dramatic as everyone else. (though it lefts a bitter taste in my mouth)
BUT
as someone said before...
if you own a 360 and like racing games then chances are pretty high that you know about forza or even got the game
so of course you would vote!(same for PS3/GT5)

anyway...
i also dont think that EVERYONE who voted got an unicorn car (i mean: the thread is at page "93" right now)

with regular 20 posts at one site.... this makes about 1860 cars at this time....

i dont know... but that number is increasing really fast... and if they dont have a person who is checking all that, then i dont see this happening.

so... PROVE ME WRONG!!! TURN 10.
FamilyGuy  +   1872d ago
No...
I didn't realize he was joking, he left a link and everything so instead of bribing NOW he is just out right LYING to his fans about an offer that doesn't exist?

That just means this situation went from bad to worse...

How is this failing based on a "duplicate". This is a STORY about an issue, the other was just the post about the cnet poll on the forza website.

It's a STORY from a well known gaming website.
#26 (Edited 1872d ago ) | Agree(3) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
DJ  +   1871d ago
Like i said, the Administrators took it down immediately.
It wasn't even fully approved yet at the time. Someone big must have gotten a hold of them. I didn't realize Che Chou changed his stance though. Now he's saying it was a joke, well after the fact? What an idiot.
#26.1 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(2) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
Perkel  +   1872d ago
Do you realy think that avarge player of Forza giva damn crap about CNET voting ? So i want fine car i must vote. Voting is biased.

But I don't giva a crap about CNET voting.
DJ  +   1871d ago
Probably not
But Turn 10 could easily quote the poll saying "According to CNET, people are more excited for Forza than Gran Turismo."

Their PR could do a lot of things with this.
Stryfeno2  +   1871d ago
playstationlifestyle.net? Hahhahaaaahahaaaaa
MGOelite  +   1871d ago
have you read the actual article you dumbass? go to cnet yourself and look at the quote yourself if it will make you feel any better, no deneying the truth that turn 10 are corrupt b@stards
rawd  +   1871d ago
First fake Milo videos, now this.

Sad panda
yaygames  +   1871d ago
no need to catagorize microsoft and turn 10 as the same people.
rawd  +   1871d ago
thanks Captain Obvious
AssassinHD  +   1871d ago
@7.1
If I am not mistaken i believe that Turn 10 is a 1st party development studio for Microsoft. That means people are perfectly justified in categorizing them together.
Lou-Cipher  +   1871d ago
Microsoft does not care about making the better product, they only care about tricking people into believing they have the better product.

BTW Gran Turismo 5 is still winning the poll on Cnet. HAHAHA

Turn 10 and Microsoft are a bunch of frauds.
Nelson M  +   1871d ago
Some Bribe Huh !!
A Crap Car From a Previous Crap Game for the New Crap Game !!

What a Load of Crap !!
#30 (Edited 1871d ago ) | Agree(13) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply
« 1 2 3 4 5 »

Add comment

You need to be registered to add comments. Register here or login
Remember
New stories
10°

Ami Plays – GTA Online – Skydiving Fun

23m ago - With the recent rumour of Grand Theft Auto V possibly being released in November for PS4, Xbox On... | PS3
10°

Tony Plays – 7 Weeks of Simulator Hell – Week #2 – Warehouse and Logistics Simulator

24m ago - In the second week of his 7 Weeks of Simulator Hell, Tony presents Warehouse and Logistics Simula... | PC
20°

Elder Scrolls Online Plush Guar: First Impressions

1h ago - Skyrim Fansite writes: "Wow, that was fast! I bought an Elder Scrolls Online plush Guar from the... | PC
20°

Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson New Character Art Released, New Gameplay Video

1h ago - A new character for Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson has been revealed today. A new gameplay video h... | 3DS
Ad

Looking for a great Pokemon Community?

Now - Look no further. Join us at the BulbaGarden Forums, the best community for everything Pokemon | Promoted post
40°

GH Exclusive Interview With Thunder Lotus' Will Dubé on Jotun

1h ago - Travis Shuman of Gamer Headlines interviews Will Dubé on his Kick starter hit Jotun. | PC
Related content from friends