Forza franchise director Dan Greenawalt has delivered his verdict on Sony's Gran Turismo series, saying Polyphony Digital CEO and franchise creator Kazunori Yamauchi "hasn't done anything for me for years".
Yeah I was expecting some GT5 gameplay also the game been in the works for so long but it's for the best. And people Please read all of the Quote before bashing hi,. ''That said, as a fan of the series, he hasn’t done anything for me in years. So in many ways he’s handing the baton to me. He probably doesn’t see it that way, but I do, because I believe that I’m now taking what he ignited in me as a passion, and taking it to a much, much, much broader level. I’m not saying it’s necessarily larger yet, but definitely broader, younger, older, men, women. So I’m really excited.'' The kid loved racing game as a kid got introduced to the gendra by playing GT back in the days , grew up to be a Dev and now wants to make better game the people he looked up to. Im not a Dev but I'm pretty sure Every Devs in the game Industry feels this way.
Why are Forza so hung up about Gran Turismo?? It always Forza team says this, Forza Team says that. And that is even though PD have kept very silent. I mean even the two games are available on diffrent systems and will be likely released months apart. There is a competitive overlap but not enough for Forza to have such a huge paranoia amount. Ie. Xbox owners have no choice but to buy Forza and PS3 owners have no choice but buy GT5. And most car enthusiast that own both consoles will likely buy both games. There is no need to slag the competition off in the way the Forza Team have done on a regular basis. It so unprofessional - especially since PD have a pretty good track record. It's like Ronaldo continuing saying Messi is rubbish when they are both clearly great. Respect the competition. Don't brag until you have seen your competitior's finished product otherwise it makes you look an idiot.
Ronaldo is a crybaby Guido whereas Messi is a teamplayer.
actually ronaldo is very much a teamplayer.. if you watch him play he always works his socks off for the team. he can be a very cynical player but he isn't a cry baby.. he gets hacked to pieces in a lot of matches in the premier league.. you don't survive for long in the premier league being a cry baby. ferguson loves him because he has a strop at being substituted even when man utd are winning by miles. ronaldo workrate is phenomenal and that is something that he and messi have in common: hard work and incredible amount of skill .. only someone who understands very little about football would think that ronaldo and messi aren't great footballers.
its just messi is better. ronaldo has more star appeal though but star appeal wont help you in a champions league final and out of the two messi done more for the team...he was definitely more selfless
They are almost in the same league as Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
needs to keep Kazunori Yamauchi's name out of his mouth. Yamauchi is a legend in the gaming and automotive industry, Dan Greenawalt is a nobody in comparison. And lets face it people, Turn 10 dose not have the resources that Polyphony Digital has in the gaming industry or the automotive industry for that matter. I'm not saying that Forza 3 will not be a great game, just saying that when it comes to Kazunori Yamauchi (living legend), Dan Greenawalt is out of his league.
If they weren't worried about Gran Turismo they wouldn't need to bribe people to vote for their game. http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News... Utterly pathetic.
They're scared of Gran Turismo 5. Anyone who talks this much crap instead of focusing on their game must be scared of competition.
I can't wait to see GT5, we'll finally see why its taking so long. GT5 is probably no different than GTHD or Prologue. Its probably taking so long because some detail is being worked on only a Japanese dev would care about.
lol GT Series is one the best no doubt about that but nothing can replace the real thing nothing . If you think that playing GT for a several hours will make you a PRO driver lol then GOOD LUCK :)
I guess that's why Profession ALMS drivers race Forza before competitions.
Was this comment at all necessary, Mr Forza dev? No, no it was not. Now stop blathering and get on with what you're paid to do...
forza 2 has just shipped 4million!! great but..... what people dont know is that the bundle which took place alongside halo for christmas 2007 is where it got 3million of its sales!! so basically forza isnt as big a racer as some believe........meaning it even got beat by gt5p!!! check link before disagreeing....note american sales are far bigger than eu sales even though before bundle eu sales kicked us sales ass!! http://vgchartz.com/games/g... other games that sold similar amounts due to bundles are last years kung fu panda http://vgchartz.com/games/g... and lego indiana jones http://vgchartz.com/games/g... strange how there both activision titles!!
Dan Greenawalt: "I want to be like Dennis Dyack when I grow up."
Forza better surpass GT in every conceivable way if they're going to talk that much $#!+. It better have better graphics, better physics, more cars, and more features. Sounds like a company trying hard to get their game mentioned in the same breath as Turismo
Hahaha so you admit what I said was true. After they practiced the went on to win the 12 hr at Sebring. I foget most people here won't know what Sebring is. That real world track isn't in your game.
Thanks for the link. Oh and Tanner Foust wants to say hi as well. http://www.eurogamer.net/vi... @ Jolly above me. Whats your point? Do you really want us to go through the real world tracks and cars that are in the Gran Turismo games that aren't in Forza? We could fill up this whole damn page with that list.
Oh....Tanner Foust the guy that gets paid by pd....yeah it is sad when people get money for applauding games. Maybe you should look up Virtual VS Reality. IT was a little article from popular science about Forza 1 tell me how inaccurate that is. Oh boo hoo.....they messed up Nurburg in Forza 1. Get your facts straight kid.
Turn 10 talk more about Gran Turismo 5 then they do about Forza 3. They're so arrogant. Seriously i laugh everytime i see an article like this. Because turd 10 were so in ya face with, YEAH we've found the secret to getting the best out of the 360, we have the best graphics out there, we are the definitive racing game this generation. And Gran Turismo 5 pops along quietly, shows its stuff, and blows forza away. I mean it's also like 3 games in one with the rally and nascar. And the damage is unreal. Seriously, watch the GT5 trailer, and you'll see why turn 10's pants aren't white anymore
@1.10 "They're scared of Gran Turismo 5. Anyone who talks this much crap instead of focusing on their game must be scared of competition. " Take a look at some Forza 3 threads, and see how many PS3 fanboys talk crap about Forza - especially CaseyRybackCPO. I guess there are a LOT of Gran Turismo fans that are scared of the competition as well. EDIT - nobody here has any control over Turn 10 or PD. We all do have control over what each of us says. I agree, though, that the smack talk should stop - but talk like this has been happening since the days of Nintendo vs. Sega. Sega actually put it in their commercials "Genesis does what Nintendon't" - and Sega had the games to back it up. EDIT - The Gran Turismo community spams EVERY Forza thread with crap like CaseyRybackCPO spews - so they obviously care a lot more about Forza 3 than you think.
If you don't like Gran Turismo fans in Forza threads, then Turn 10 should keep Gran Turismo out of there mouths. The Gran Turismo community doesn't give two craps about Forza. Edit: Again Soxfan the ONLY reason that you see GT fans on Forza threads is because every Forza thread has a GT reference.
That quote is pure arrogance. The fact that Forza's main competition is going to come from a PSP game gives great perspective on how far ahead GT is over Forza. 360-only car fans will have a great game on their hands, but nothing will be able to compare to GT5. Crab: You think this is bad? Have you read this? http://www.n4g.com/events_e...
"Dan Greenawalt :Yamauchi,you haven't done anything for me in years Yamauchi : Who the fukc are you?" LoL..Reminds me of something my wife told me...A Lion doesnt worry about a mouse.
So what you're saying is that even though i'm a huge fan of Gran Turismo, i should have read the article, accepted it as being completely fine, and not commented in here at all because any comment i make is wrong, fanboyish and desperate. Yeah? Let me ask you something. Do you think this comment by Turn 10 is arrogant?
very true man Edit: of course Messi is better than Ronaldo ,and that has nothing to do that I am from Argentina XD (vamos la pulga)
lol,a mod deleted my totally normal comment!funny!
"I guess that's why Profession ALMS drivers race Forza before competitions." F1 drivers have used Gran Turismo. Kazuki Nakajima, Jarno Trulli. World Rally Champion Sebastian Loeb too. http://www.gamer.tm/news.ph... And if anybody's forgetting, Jensen Button is a Gran Turismo fan. "How are you finding the Formula One season this year? 'I’m enjoying it. I think Jensen Button’s going to win. Both Lewis and Jensen are great Gran Turismo fans.'" http://www.edge-online.com/... So who would I trust? F1 racers? Or ALMS racers? As much as I respect ANY professional racer on their skills especially Le Mans, I'm going to go with F1 racers. Quite simply, they are the pinnacle of motorsports.
the forza dev also said this: " Kazunori Yamauchi-san is someone I have tremendous respect for. I have tremendous respect for the work of team, but I am a GT fan. I bought my first car that I stressed out about buying because I played it in Gran Turismo. I’m in this industry because of that game." did you guys read the article stfu fanboys
Videogamer.com is just another in a long list of tabloid journalism. Gaming journalism is garbage today. It just adds fuel to the fire. With that said (and yes I did read the article Ausbo and I'm sorry I did) Turn 10 needs to stuff a sock in it. All they have done is run their mouths bragging and boasting to anyone willing to listen since E3. Just talk about the game and what it has to offer the racing fans of the world. The tabloid journalist and gaming community will decide the rest once it's released. @below Good point with them being on different consoles. I don't see why everything in gaming has to turn into a war of the worlds. It's just sad. If you have a 360 buy Forza 3. If you have a PS3 pick up GT5. I have both and I am buying both.
WTF are you talking about? How are GT5 & Forza 3 competition, yes they are racing games. They are both exclusives on seperate console's. GT5 is better for PS3 fan's & Forza is better for xbox fans simple as. But overall GT5 is better in my eyes, more dev time = better game's. With the exception of few. But Sony exclusive's most definetely better.
http://n4g.com/NewsPending-... http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend... Both stories failed... The original one points to how Turn 10 is bribing people on their forum but probably got failed because it was on a forum (although it was an OFFICIAL that posted). That's all good but why does an article written on Turn 10's practice also got failed? Anyway even if I was a Forza fan I would be turned off by all these trash talk and shady practices against GT5.
How the hell can they get away with something like that? Any surviving respect I may have had for Turn 10 after their recent, arrogant outbursts has been absolutely obliterated after seeing this! An OFFICIAL website rigging another website's poll is beyond low, it's disgusting! What has the gaming industry turned into...?
"Anyone who talks this much crap instead of focusing on their game must be scared of competition. " Well no shlT! you think? Look, This guy obviously sees the devs of GT as legendary if he's taking it up as a baton pass. Your a rookie on the court and your up against the Kobe Bryant of the racing genre. You don't think you'd be scared? You act like there's something wrong with being scared of the competition. When I played bball and there was once this 6'4 275lb hulking monster out on the court and it was my job to keep him in check. You can bet your a$$ I was scared at first too. But you gotta do what any man would do in that situation. tighten up your laces, hype yourself up @ the challenge, and keep moving forward. Even if it does result in him scoring 20 points in the post. I honestly don't expect you to understand. It's more of a guy thing really. Don't be so delusional in thinking that people wouldn't be scared when their up against a legend.
Actually, the x360 owners have Forza and Project Gotham, both are great racers.
""did you guys read the article? the forza dev also said this: " Kazunori Yamauchi-san is someone I have tremendous respect for. I have tremendous respect for the work of team, but I am a GT fan. I bought my first car that I stressed out about buying because I played it in Gran Turismo. I’m in this industry because of that game." did you guys read the article stfu fanboys "" -It doesn't matter what is said. PS3fanboys need their egos stroked so they could feel good & superior to the other fanboys for they get NO RACING SIM this year. And so the thirst for Xbox blood continues and will not be quenched until many a decent games are shipped and many a faithful fanboys are ridiculed. But rejoice Xbox fanboys, Forza Motorsport 3 ships this October...the definitive racing sim.
Bribe? Are you that dumb ghost of Sparta? Check who start the thread? It's Che Team Forza Rep Gamerscore 10 Che is a famous person at N4g, that's been posting crap and stupid rumours here. Not a developer, gamerscore 10, a Fake you moron! How idiot can people be?
Don't lower yourself down to this level and start replying to these guys. Just finish the game up and let the public decide. Offtopic: My ps3 YLOD on me couple of weeks ago and I'm now trying to redownload my already paid for songs from singstore but it won't let me. It says "The selected item cannot be downloaded because it is associated with another system". Well yeah all my songs are associated with the console that bricked on me so now I have to bear with this too? I've downloaded over 130 songs which add up to over 200 euros worth of songs. Does anyone have experience on this situation? What can I do? I live in europe /Finland FYI.
GREENBERG and now this Guy
This is just like Microsoft and their band of CRONIES to slander the competition, even if it's in a respectful sort-of way. I can't wait to see some GT5 gameplay, after what this buffoon has said, and knowing it's going to have twice the amount of vehicles as well as Nascar, Off Road, and Traditional...On ONE Disc. This is just another example of why I can't bring myself to get a 360. All the mud slinging this company does over and over and the RRoD and the scratched discs and buying exclusives rather than building from within. All this crap has obliterated any respect I had for the company and their products. Say what you want about Sony and Nintendo, but they do NOT go this far. And if they have, they are nowhere near as consistent as these guys. MS loves to bash the competition, plain and simple, whether it's from fear or arrogance, I don't know, but they do it and they do it often.
SCEE's Andrew House thinks that Wii Owners may upgrade to a higher definition console down the line, and he's called Arrogant. Crap like this from turn 10 comes out, And it's all another day's work.
Uh, did you even read the article? =/
lets see how many xbots swarm this article
Lets see how many Droids Troll this article...looks like you're the first.
Why would I have to play that sh¡tty game when I can play the superior Gran Turismo 5? Stupid bots, stop trolling n4g, you are destroying it.
this isn't arrogance is it.......its selling your product right ¬_¬ of couse unless sony is the speaker @anh_duong nice analogy....but messi is better.. CL final says hi Utd fans;)
Everyone seems to forget how United made Messi useless in the CL semi-finals last year. Both are great players but I'd peg them about even.
Here is the whole quote, and it's a duplicate from another interview: "When asked if he was surprised by Sony’s conference, Greenawalt replied: “Absolutely. Kazunori Yamauchi-san is someone I have tremendous respect for. I have tremendous respect for the work of team, but I am a GT fan. I bought my first car that I stressed out about buying because I played it in Gran Turismo. I’m in this industry because of that game." “That said, as a fan of the series, he hasn’t done anything for me in years. So in many ways he’s handing the baton to me. He probably doesn’t see it that way, but I do, because I believe that I’m now taking what he ignited in me as a passion, and taking it to a much, much, much broader level. I’m not saying it’s necessarily larger yet, but definitely broader, younger, older, men, women. So I’m really excited.”
thats my point. PD is on GT5 and t10 are on Forza 3 therefore it seems GT take that little bit longer to release a full game. Anyway if this guy showed more humility people wouldnt be making an issue of it. You dont need to be disrespectful or downplay others in order to sell games. If you're all about quality then the product will speak for itself PLUS this dude hasnt even played GT5 yet so whos he to talk right about now. Questioning the guys passion......twit and that 'baton' is still in Yamauchi's trousers I love 'cheesy' rally thats why im extra excited about part 5 im excited about the 16 players online too. just face it until this guy plays GT5 his comments are baseless
It took PD 4 years to make GT 4, and that game didn't bring much to the table that GT 3 hadn't already done. It had better graphics and a cheesy rally mode, and that was about it. Let's hope the competition from Turn 10 fuels(!) PD to give GT 5 more than just shinier graphics.
WRC, NASCAR, GTPSP integration, damage modeling, GTTV and other unnanounced features not pushing enough for you? funny considering Forza 3 still doesn't look as good as GT5p Dan G seriously needs to shut the fvck up because he's going to look foolish when GT5 launches and b!tch slaps Forza into the next century "400 cars, 50 manufacturers.. we have the biggest racing game ever" - Dan G HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!! GT4 had more than that.. that guy is not good PR
Agreed. I never played Forza 2 but if GT5 isn't released over the holidays I'll give Forza 3 a try.
So when it comes to a game like Alan Wake it's "Take your time make a great game" blah blah blah but when it comes to GT5(Not to mention GOW or KZ2) it's "OMG they are taking forever."... GT5 will be done when it's done. Go ahead and play what you want.
With the addition of WRC and Nascar PD is upping the ante already as well as with the inclusion of damage. Hopefully with all the talk Turn 10 has been doing doesn't force another year delay from PD :( Though i think PD and Yamouchi have great faith in their product regardless, hence the respect out of not speaking out about it or a retort to some diminishing articles. I will be getting both games when they release and i can't wait. Endurance runs FTW?
Basically he's saying the GT Series is done for, and that Forza is the future, even without seeing any evidence of GT5. Just because his product is being released first, he thinks it's better? Sounds like MS when they released the 360 before everyone else, and we know how reliable that system is! /end sarcasm
What an arrogant POS I can understand saying you feel your product is better, but saying the other dev has "handed me the baton" that's just outright rude. That's literally disgusting.
Yep that's pretty arrogant and rude considering Yamauchi and his team are currently working on the latest iteration of GT. How the hell did he had him the baton?! That's like a young upstart saying the CEO handed him the reigns when he has never considered stepping down.
These forza guys should show more respect for PD because Gran Turismo has already reached that epic level that Forza is still trying to get to.
talk about protesting too much!!! i think somebody is a little insecure about their product. i think that the forza guys have been peeking at Polyphony Digital while at the virtual urinal and are really worried they don't measure up.
it might be the other way around http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
That comment on them taking notes has bothered me since I've seen it. It smacks a lot of what they've been doing, which is trash talking. Do we really know that they were there taking notes or were they just there looking at what the competition is doing? It's written by someone who is making Forza 3 and has no proof other than his own statements. Viewed alongside some of the unprofessional statements they've made in the last week, I'm feeling that their stopover didn't happen exactly as they mention. Anyway, I just wish developers would leave the one-up-manship and smack talking to the gaming community at N4G, which does a good enough job trashing the games they don't like.
If you are to eventually take over as the king of your beloved genre there is little need to talk about it, let alone proclaim yourself king. As it stands right now dude just sounds like a d-bag.
i'm a fan of real car driving sims that's why i like gt way more than forza. to each his own ,but forza was always about being a bit more forgiving when you would mess up while driving which is more appealing to the arcade driving fans. another thing that a lot of people like in forza is the ability to put personal decals, writings, or drawings on their car which i dont like because there are a lot of racists and idiots in the world . i was tired of racing in forza and being subjected to racial epitaphs , or kkk, or some other rubbish on peoples cars. im a die-hard car racing sim fan so i care more about the performance side of the cars and only gran turismo provides that realism. its not even a contest between gran turismo 5 and forza 3 or gran turismo vs forza . the devs in gran turismo 5 will model each real life tracks as they are right down to even modelling trees and blades of grass at the track side . the last full gran turismo game was released years ago in 2003 or 2004 on the ps2 and forza 2 on the xbox 360 couldnt be compared to a ps2 game such as gran turismo 4. gt 4 was a way better game if you are a racing sim fan. forza 3 has more of the same customizations as well as the ability to rewind your game to try again,lol. the game play of forza 3 is arcadey which you can tell by videos of people driving 100mph and doing a 180 and continue to drive in reverse with such ease which im not saying is impossible but the physics i can tell is unrealistic . if youre a racing sim fan you would know that gran turismo is better than forza in everyway. ps. the talon stands for talented
They are talking $hit saying they are the best car sim game ,and they haven't even beaten Gran turismo 4 (hahahaha 400 cars , 100 tracks hahahah , how about some rally or nascar or creating a car in real life ) they are c0cky bastard with the worst driving sim ever created (if u believe forza 2 is good is because u are either retarded or have never ever play GT4 or drive a car). Good try but u have to at least beat GT4 before going after Gt5
its on now
Did you even read the article? “Absolutely. Kazunori Yamauchi-san is someone I have tremendous respect for. I have tremendous respect for the work of team, but I am a GT fan. I bought my first car that I stressed out about buying because I played it in Gran Turismo. I’m in this industry because of that game" Hows that being arrogant?
when will they stfu!!! seriously all ive heard is about turn 10 shutting down GT
wtf is it with Turn 10 and trash talking PD when PD hasn't said a word? are they scared or something? GT5 did snag NASCAR and WRC after all..
dan greenwald is one arrogant dipshit