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Valve: We don't see big bad and evil side of Microsoft

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at E3 last week, writer Chet Faliszek talked up Valve's relationship with Microsoft when asked if a PS3 version had ever crossed anyone's mind.

He said: "If it crossed someone's mind it wasn't the focus. The focus was 360 and PC. A) it's what we develop on. B) it's the platform we think lends itself to the interaction of our game the best."

Faliszek also revealed some interesting titbits on the relationship Microsoft shares with Valve, describing Microsoft marketing staff as "hardcore" Left 4 Dead players.

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qface643086d ago

of course they don't they only see the good $$$ $ide of microsoft

lol couldn't resist

lociefer3086d ago

* I know they’re supposed to be big, bad and evil but that’s not the side we see of them* stating that means that even gabe knows that m$ is evil, well as long as they keep sending the cash he's not gonna see that side

el zorro3086d ago

Microsoft isn't evil. It isn't a perfect company, but then again neither is Sony (rootkit fiasco, proprietary formats, and exploding batteries say hi). All in all Microsoft is a very good company and the majority of people who hate on them are either fanboys, competitors or bandwaggon-riding mindless sheep that don't have a clue what they are talking about.

table3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

so, basically you mean everyone hates them then :)

Hellsvacancy3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

Its coz Valve r a bunch browns noses ( http://www.urbandictionary....

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Bnet3433086d ago

What I don't understand is over half the time, PS3 only owners say they'll get it on PC. So shut up and get it on PC, why would you care if it comes to PS3 or not.

The Master Chief3086d ago

Microsoft aren't evil(oooo spooky), they are massive corporation with unlimited amounts of money, willing to bring fierce competition to it's competitors.

The aren't the Mafia, Nazi's or Mother Teresa either.

I LOVE my Xbox 360, I've owned every single console since NES including all this generaiton and it's by far my favorite I've ever owned.

Microsoft not only wants to beat you, but show you up in the process. You know not to bet against them and it feels good supporting something of there's. You know if it gets outdone or something, they will come right back with something better or more. I will never doubt Microsoft. They get things done.

table3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

"I will never doubt Microsoft. They get things done."

Yes, and they get things done by any means possible.

Microsoft are infamous for their foul play. It's just a well known fact. That doesn't mean that I, or anyone else, dislike their products for it though.

Edit @ below comments: Incase you haven't noticed, they have a major lawsuit like every month lol. Stop kidding yourself guys.

@all time greatness: you just couldn't help taking a cheap shot a the ps3 could you.

DelbertGrady3086d ago

$249 for 2005 tech in a new casing. Now that's evil.

el zorro3086d ago

"Microsoft are infamous for their foul play. It's just a well known fact."

No, it is a bullsh*t "fact". I've read a lot of the Microsoft-bashing essays on the internet and not a one of them hold water. I used to live in Washington state and the amount of things Microsoft does for Seattle and communities up there and all over the world is truly commendable.

Microsoft have got where they are at by providing products and services that people want and in many cases doing it better than their competitors, plain and simple.

All Time Greatness3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

"Yes, and they get things done by any means possible.

Microsoft are infamous for their foul play. It's just a well known fact. That doesn't mean that I, or anyone else, dislike their products for it though."

Please help enlighten us with what you know that goes on behind close doors with Microsoft....

What you mean sometimes spending money on things Sony can't afford?? Cry them a River! They have more money than Sony and they can afford more. They also didn't release a 600$(over a 1,000$ to produce for Sony at first) unnecessary movie player, putting them billions in the hole for half a decade. lol

Christopher3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

But they sure do have a monopoly on OS and Office Product software. Sure, there are other options. Now, how many of those options are being used by businesses compared to Microsoft's 98% coverage of both Home and Business usage?

So, yeah, not evil. Just unbelievable powerful and crossing them without having Nintendo or Sony to back you would be the dumbest thing in the world.

In regards to Valve's preference of development platforms, it's because they know PC programming really well. That's all. They don't want to put the time, effort, or money into learning to code for the PS3 because they do well enough with what they do know. I really don't care about seeing their games come to the PS3. If they do, fine, otherwise, *shrugs* whatever.

ZuperAmazingCooKie3086d ago

Another bunch of children saying "bu bu bu ps3 fanboys are teh worse!!", and yet they agree with themselves, patting their backs, making group fellatio, and so on.

Anyway, Corporations are as evil as they can get, it's just that Microsoft has a monopoly in many industries so of course they seem more evil. Oh, and of course Valve won't see how evil they are, MSFT butters their bread.

Pistolero3086d ago

"Corporations are as evil as they can get"

You sound like a socialist...are you?

Syronicus3086d ago

I get paid by the company I work for and would say privately that they have an evil side. However, if I were to speak publicly, I too would say I don't see an evil side to the company I work for. They sign my paychecks, so I refrain from biting the hand that feeds me. In other words, as long as Valve is receiving love from MS, you can't trust their opinion when it comes to the darker side of the corporation.

And to the fanbabies out there, this is not a note against MS, it is not singling out MS since we all know that ALL corporations have an evil side.

LONEWOLF2313086d ago

I think if there was only a way to create a game that was crossplatform PS3 vs 360 gamers MAYBE then this whole foolish little console war would die off. Both systems offer incredible features and insane looking graphics, Just take a look at Alan Wake, GT5, Forza 3, GOD OF WAR 3(this game looks INSANE!), Heavy Rain, Splinter Cell Conviction so on and so forth. On to the matter at hand, Valve seriously needs to release this on the PS3 along with proper support. Gabe if you do you can bet your @$$ that youll be making more than enough money to buy a 5 year supply of Twinkies.

TheDude2dot03086d ago

"Please help enlighten us with what you know that goes on behind close doors with Microsoft....

What you mean sometimes spending money on things Sony can't afford?? Cry them a River! They have more money than Sony and they can afford more. They also didn't release a 600$(over a 1,000$ to produce for Sony at first) unnecessary movie player, putting them billions in the hole for half a decade. lol"

I'm not sure about you, but Anti-trust is a big deal where I live

SaberEdge3086d ago

But the anti-trust case was all a big scam. Other companies couldn't manage to compete effectively so they ran to the federal government begging them to do something about it. Microsoft did nothing wrong or illegal. Their only crime was being too successful. It's the same kind of crap going on right now with the socialist-minded bureaucrats in the EU trying to make Microsoft box its competitors web browser products in with their own. It's wrong.

Behind every anti-trust suit there is usually a jealous competitor (or competitors) that is being beaten fair and square and has to blame their failures on a supposed monopoly held by the other company. Look at AMDs claims against Intel for a perfect example. I can't see a single thing that Intel has done wrong, except make better business decisions.

zodiac9093086d ago

took the words right out of my mouth!

aldesko3086d ago

"MS evil" lolol yeah, ok...

I do think members of Valve worked for MS at one point or another, but regardless, does anyone capable of intelligent thought actually think MS is "evil"?

ShabzS3086d ago

after they finally brought a metal gear to 360 ... they are aces in my book ... its like they could here me begging from 3000 miles away ..

Christopher3086d ago

Monopolies are also against the law.

IdleLeeSiuLung3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

If you really look at the haters, usually they have no good arguments but just baseless bashing. MS has been such a target for so long... I think it is just a reflection of their success beating their competitors and leaving some p!ssed of customers loyal to a particular brand or product.

In my book, MS has done alright by me. They are also at the forefront to accept gay/lesbian employees.

@saberedge above:
Unfortunately, monopoly is a result of your business being too successful.

Ju3086d ago

Oh man, only kids in here, hah ? Maybe MS is doing payback for all the crap they've pulled over the years.

I mean, for years they have bought out the competition when they had a product which was actually better then theirs and could have been a thread to their own.

The browser just one of the examples - after they based their work on Mosaic, like everybody else. It wasn't the better product, which was successful, but the way it was distributed. I as a consumer would vouch for the better quality.

They weren't more successful, but simply more hostile. How many small companies had they just bought out to get rid of the competition on the market, hah ?

Can't believe that you just forget that because its so convenient right now. Time heals all wounds, that's for sure.

Valve is a MS spin off anyway, founded by Gabe, and ex MS employee.

RememberThe3573086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

You guys are such little children. All this bickering over which company is more evil is pathetic.

This isn't even about Sony yet some defensive fanboys had to bring it up to try and switch focus.

One person makes a comment then ten more people decide to not respond to the comment but add little sarcastic bullshit.

This is the Gamer Zone, leave that crap in the Open Zone.

Microsoft is not the evil empire they are portrayed as. They are also not the love child of angels that some peopel here seem to think they are. They are focused on maintaining their markt share and some times they get desperate.

If you think that the whole RROD and Vista things are none existent then your blind. MS has vet to address the RROD and they are already going cut Vista.

Then there are the people acting like Insomniac or Sucker Punch would say the same for Sony.

Seriously, stop and think about things first. Valve has a great relationship with MS, why would they be seeing the evil part of MS? MS hasn't screwed them over yet.

rockleex3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

Sony and PS3 fanboys.

So according to their logic, anyone who doesn't like the way Microsoft does business is a Sony fanboy?

Please, just focus on the topic at hand, and that's Microsoft.

Why does everything always have to be turned into a "console war"?

TheDude2dot03086d ago

"But the anti-trust case was all a big scam. Other companies couldn't manage to compete effectively so they ran to the federal government begging them to do something about it. Microsoft did nothing wrong or illegal. Their only crime was being too successful. It's the same kind of crap going on right now with the socialist-minded bureaucrats in the EU trying to make Microsoft box its competitors web browser products in with their own. It's wrong.

Behind every anti-trust suit there is usually a jealous competitor (or competitors) that is being beaten fair and square and has to blame their failures on a supposed monopoly held by the other company. Look at AMDs claims against Intel for a perfect example. I can't see a single thing that Intel has done wrong, except make better business decisions"

MS was extremely successful... after monopolizing the computer software industry. To compete with them was suicide, which is basically what Anti-trust is. A lot of shoddy things were done to bring MS to the top.

Serg3086d ago

Stupidity is like a flu, it can never be extinct.

Microsoft has existed before most of you were even born, yet you base most of the stuff you write on the Xbox, 360 here 360 there. Windows is the world standard OS, this is huge, compared to that the Xbox is a tear drop in the ocean. An OS gets used by companies, households, governments and even the military.

Microsoft did a lot of "morally grey" things in the past, I am talking Windows 95 past, not Xbox.

Windows 98, which was nothing more than Windows 95 with a slightly different look and newer in house drivers. Windows ME was almost exactly the same as 98 and therefore 95, bluescreens wherever you look. Yet it's release price was even higher than the release price of 98. Some security leaks were even carried over from older Windows versions, well it's certainly no secret that they simply improved on the Windows 95 coding, it's just that, the newer version lacked the "improved" part. XP was the first good OS they produced, some would think they finally made it, there comes Vista.

It's not that MS is evil in the sense of overtaking the government and bringing chaos and anarchy, but it's their business practice that caused so many people to not like, or even hate them. And their track record of innovation, uhm, do they have one? Can't be that big because Windows started as an Amiga OS ripoff, now you see more and more Linux and MacOS elements with each new version.

It's clear that I don't like them, well I hate them, but the Xbox is definitely not the reason.

BWS19823086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

the thousands of employees that MS JUST laid off like a few months ago, in the Entertainment division, wasn't it about %17 of their workforce? That's about 1 out of 6 people.

I'd like to know the justification of such an outcome, the ends justifies the means? How many families are destroyed? MS isn't the only one to lay off thousands, especially in this economic climate, the major difference is we know how many millions MS was throwing around in the console/games industry for years now, trying to better the competition and buy off properties or undue exclusiveness. It's one thing to throw the money around when you have it, it's quite another thing when you pretend/believe you do and your employees find out the hard way, you don't. I wonder how many lives would be different if that $50 million DLC deal didn't go down. Who's to say Rockstar wouldn't have just put out that content for all anyways, just the same, had they not been given that offer? And thousands would have jobs still? But now Microsoft shafted their own workers (and families) for financial setbacks....and the price of such an act comes into question.

I can't prove the layoffs wouldn't have happened anyways, but when you spend like they have for the last few years in this "war" then lay people off in the thousands...you have to question their integrity.

Evil is a bit extreme, but the facts don't paint them as "selfless" by any measure.

Kaneda3086d ago

Valve is like Naughty Dog or Insomniac for Sony. They are just more openly express their favor platform so more gamers buy xbox and buy their games.

The Lazy One3086d ago

The justification is simple. A lot of them were un-needed jobs in RROD repair and call taking, which is much less a problem than it originally was.

For those not in the know, you don't want to spend more money than necessary in a recession.

BWS19823086d ago

just to repair and take calls regarding RRoD? So their workforce ballooned about 3 to 4 years ago in correlation with that as well? I honestly am asking for clarification, because I'm not aware of what jobs were cut.

Shepherd 2143086d ago

Its utterly amazing how Rockstar Games recently stated that they prefer the Playstation platform, since their next game Agent will be a PS3 exclusive, and Guerrilla Games also stated they prefer the PS3 more, and they get no crap at all. But when Valve says they like the 360 more and thats what they prefer to develop for, "They are on MS's payroll", or "They love MS's money not MS."

Bunch of hypocritical BS is all it is. I love it.

TheDude2dot03086d ago

"Its utterly amazing how Rockstar Games recently stated that they prefer the Playstation platform, since their next game Agent will be a PS3 exclusive, and Guerrilla Games also stated they prefer the PS3 more, and they get no crap at all. But when Valve says they like the 360 more and thats what they prefer to develop for, "They are on MS's payroll", or "They love MS's money not MS."

That would be a good point if Rockstar allowed an unfinished, glitchy game onto the 360 before claiming no part in the game development at all. However, that is not the case. Therefore, your comparison sucks.

Pandamobile3086d ago

Valve isn't swayed by Microsoft.

Valve's priority is with thier Steam platform.

Shepherd 2143086d ago

your post makes no sense, therefore, your an idiot. I cant recall a glitchy, unfinished game being released that is made by Valve on 360, much less PC.

TheDude2dot03085d ago

your post makes no sense, therefore, your an idiot. I cant recall me saying that Valve released an unfinished, glitchy game on the 360. Read the damn post before making yourself look like a retard.

Shepherd 2143084d ago

your horrible use of the english language makes the post suggest something other than what you probably intended. Rockstar never did it either pal.

TheDude2dot03084d ago

Wtf?!? I just copied your exact first two sentences in my post and you are insulting my grammar? I do admit that one part was awkward wording, but I couldn't find the right way to say it.

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MajesticBeast3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

Gabe is so far up there ass he cant even see. Big surprise who submitted this btw...

deeznuts3086d ago

How can Valve see anything, they're in front, grabbing their ankles.

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mcgrawgamer3086d ago

valve has always been buddy with MSFT. why do you think the dreamcast got half life games? MSFT OS.

the orginal xbox had valve games counter strike, half life, etc,.

Now the 360 is getting some love.

If memory serves me correct aside from the orange box the only other game the ps brand got from valve was half life.

PirateThom3086d ago

The Dreamcast never got any Valve games.

Gearbox completed a version of Half-Life for the Dreamcast, but it only ever released on PS2 due to the Dreamcast dying, essentially.

Jdoki3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

oops, wrong reply...