Badassgamer "Firstly I'd like to stress that although I don't really see E3 as a competition, you'd be foolish to think there isn't some sort of underlying competitive spirit involved between the big 3, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo..."
agree, games are what is important and Sony had the games.
By that time, I will have God of War 3, Uncharted 2, GT5, and FF13. Games matter most these days. Especially exclusive first-party games! BTW Guys: Check out PSN for E3 Trailers and conferences in HD!!! It's Worth it. I started believing in FF13 again after I saw the trailer in HD.
I can't find these E3 videos on the UK store, am I doing something wrong, someone please help, were do I go to download these TRUE HD vids, thanks.
In the UK store, there should be one in the New Releases a E3 2009 folder. Although, it might be US specific since E3 is a US event. Doesn't take long to make a account, and it's perfectly safe.
Great... more engineering the criteria. If Sony has done nothing but trotted out new features for the console, the Sony faithful would claim "features are the thing". I would think of Sony and MS as roughly equal. They both beat Nintendo to a bloody pulp, and that's all we gamers should care about right now.
What about Cheap Cameras and lame AI? That's what really is gonna push the gaming world further--- ---toward hell.
but sony has always shown games...exclusive ones at that, every year. The reason people feel MS is up there is because of their megaton annoucements (depending on your stance) multiplat announcements dont cut the mustard for me but it was good to see alan wake, splinter cell and stuff its just that sony had more showable games and more projects with no release dates INCLUDING the multiplats
chaosatom, Sony said the motion controllers will be releasing in spring 2010.
I agree for all the reasons badassgamer mentioned. So what 360 has twitter and facebook, so does the PS3, and they have Myspace. Did everyone forget that the PS3 has a web browser. I wish Jack Tretton would of mentioned this at the conference and shot them down on that announcement but I guess it's not worth advertising those sites if they are not in any agreements with them, but hey anything on the web is available with a PS3.
But I have to ask, is there anybody here that can post up reasons why they would say MS won over Sony? I have seen many PS3 fans post up reasons why they thought Sony won and support their opinion with games, tech, and surprise announcements but would like to hear some specifics as to why some of these Xbox fans argue that MS won. Honest question here so please don't flame me.
SURPRISE!!!!! /sarcasm -_-
So E3 isnt about games??? Would you rather have features than games?? Every person at E3 was gushing over Natal yet they all said Sony had the best lineup of software. Best software = E3 Dominance Thats the way ive seen it since ive been paying attention to E3. Edit @ 1.9 you wont get a reasonable answer, 360 fanboys dont even believe in games anymore.
again JOY's exposed this guy as nothing more than an SDF zealot already. He's actually getting to be more annoying than HHG.
Actually, I would be pissed if say for E3 2010 Sony announced only features for the PS3, because I play games not features! However, if they were really epic features that changed the way we looked at life then maybe I'd start singing praises, but games>>>features.
Published 1 hour ago, the first comment 1 hour ago yet in 1 hour there have already 70 comments? It's a small article and an opinion at most. I and many others have MORE reasons why we thought Sony won so what's so interesting here?
Sure... PS3 "has" facebook and twitter if you really want to fiddle with the awkward browser. Which I don't. Now, if Sony commissioned actual applications for these services, you might have something to talk about. But either way, both consoles would need their respective keyboard addons to be viable on those services.
So much potentially award winning (GOTY contending) software was announced and shown. I freakin' love Playstation and 35 million consumers bought their products in 2008. That says so much about their brand, and 2009 will be even higher with PSP Go!. I'm getting a PSP Go! day one with Gran Turismo. They won cause the quality was through the roof. :)
Que? I mean, WHAT? The PS3s web browser is as convenient as they come, navigation wise. It has these wonderful little instant-linking things called "book marks" maybe you've heard of them? For goodness sake you can download all supported media DIRECTLY to your PS3 while surfing the web. What difficulty do you have "fiddling with an awkward browser"?
This is Microsoft's next 10 Months Lineup vs. Sony's next 18 months lineup. Microsoft barely ever announce or show games too early whereas Sony keeps "Reanouncing" the same titles in every major Conference. This must be GT5 3rd E3? And it has chances to be present in next E3 as well if the thing doesn't get released any earlier. God of War also comes in March 2010, which makes a strong title but still a bit too far away. Heavy Rain was nowhere to be found, let alone a precise release date. Microsoft hasn't only shown impressive new technology with Natal but also strong titles for THIS year where Splinter Cell, Forza 3, Halo ODST and Left 4 Dead 2 will see the light in the next 6 months, that without mentioning Crackdown 2, Final Fantasy and Alan Wake for the next as well as the last major 3rd party franchise absent on the console, MGS, which was announced for the Xbox 360 too. "Sneak In". By the time 2010 arrives the boys around will probably start all over again with "The year of PS3" nonsense... forgetting that Microsoft might have the ultimate lineup next year with Mass Effect 2, Lost Planet 2, Alan Wake and Gears of War 3 (almost a given) coming out and that's without mentioning the games they will surely announce for the same year at E3 which could involve the royal return of the recently restructured RARE. All in all, Sony has had an incredible lineup for the last 4 years, but it happens that it's spread on too many years. Microsoft on the other hand, is releasing top notch titles EVERY year, which is the main difference between both consoles.
Not all, but the ones i want at least http://n4g.com/up/22832/lis...
MS had a nicely rounded conference. Games, features and new tech. Sony didn't announce any new PSN features and barely mentioned their online network at all except to talk about how much content has been sold. Their motion controller you gotta know is being looked at as a Wiimote knockoff. You can't avoid it with Nintendo having such a foothold in the market and then suddenly Sony wants you to waggle as well. I'm glad MS didn't walk out on stage with a waggle wand Wiimote wannabe. Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 were Sony's strong news for me. With one of those not even coming out in 2009. So this year I will be buying Uncharted 2 while on the 360 I am buying Splinter Cell, Halo:ODST, Shadow Complex and maybe L4D2 but I'm still debating. So the games seem fairly comparable for me.
Say Sony won too. ^_^
'Won' was obviously sarcastic; that's why he put it in quotes.
fanboy logic. -_-
Wow, Sony released 3 exclusives already this year and has some more for later, but MS has no exclusives for 12 months and release a couple of games late in the year and it's, "360 has teh games coming thiz year!" Here's a heads up; Late November is practically next year!
Well, I was more interested in what Sony showed, so I guess I think they 'won' GOWIII FTW
Uncharted 2, that game was tight! looked like a CGI movie :)
OMG, Uncharted 2 is amazing. The demo was awesome. :o
Lets try some logic. If you say something positive about Sony even if its false you get tons of agrees, say something negative even if its true and guess what happens. This is Sony haven, I love the fact you feel it necessary to even comment on this site when you all agree. I think this site is about padding one another's ego's because its sure not about equality and truthfullness to all systems. So talk among yourselves and pad up your bubbles. Later
#1 GoW3 #2 Uncharted 2 #3 The Last Guardian (TRICO) EDIT: OK, I guess those are just my top 3 reasons. lol Good points in the article though.
Sony did well, but they did lack some of the surprise factor due to all the leaks. But based on content alone they did really well. MS had a great show also. I'm glad i have both systems, there's a lot of games i'll be purchasing this year and next.
common sense :) everybody should know sony won
3 reasons why Sony CRUSHED the competitors: - GAMES; unrivalled content and game line up. Sony has so many games that they cant even show half the stuff. - MEGATON announcements; to shock the world, megaton announcements must be there. - INNOVATION; since the launch of the PS3, Sony has brought us LBP, HOME, modnationracers, PSN network and content without limits. This E3, Sony continues to innovate with their motion sensing project. E3 crown belongs to Sony.
I'll give you three reasons why they didn't win: 1) only have one game this holiday season: uncharted 2 (good game):) 2) introduced a motion control that couldn't even hit a tennis ball with a pan 3) ps3 was not the face of sony this E3...it was the psp go!...and since nobody argues about mobile gaming.... ur point is irrelevant...
it was so close between microsoft and sony, that it is all opinion. With that said, this just proves futher that badassgamer is a sony fanboy. I have never seen his post say anything nice about microsoft. U2 and conviction were the best games of the show.
Yeah, I agree. It was close in my opinion between sony and microsoft. Sony's press conference definitely made me want a PS3 THAT much more....
When there's something nice to say, he will say it! j/k
Theres always one blog whose got to go against all the mainstream media. And one reason Sony lost is the lack of any solid release dates, as usual
because most of the mainstream media are headless MS chickens, that suddenly think "NATAL is t3h aweZomesTt!" thing since sliced bread, gimme a break.
I was going to say the same thing. I was going to say another SDF morale blog post some how overrides the consensus if favor of MSFT, same with Natal.
Ahh... the "Microsoft brain stem leeches" theory. I don't see why people can't believe Microsoft won E3? I told you all to wait and see instead of throwing down prophetic visions of Sony's pure ownage. And now, the same prophets have to eat crow when the world disagreed with them. For the record, I hold MS and Sony as equal this year. They both had equal measures of good stuff. But if that's not enough for divisive fanboys, you can rip each other to shreds if you really want to.
Does any of the games Microsoft mentioned have solid release dates? I'm curious. Inform me Omega.
solid release dates? we already know uncharted and ratchet and clank are fall thats obvious the only ones we arent too sure about are mag and heavy rain...we know god of war is in march so its only 2 games we dont know about
release dates please because in 09 ill have Mag, Drakes, Demon soul and Ratchet.....look at the variety..give credit where its due and stop acting the a**es all the time @ omega.............2 titles ¬_¬ ok, Ill add those 2 to the 360's 09 line up of ninjablade and halowars and im sorry...the years lineup was/is weeker than sonys.
@ultimolu Halo 3:ODST = 22nd sept 09 Forza 3 = october 09 Splinter Cell is more vague with 'fall 2009', but it seems like every PS3 game is due Fall 09 still no solid month to go by which means delays are very likely but im sure your used to that by now, with Heavy Rain and WKC most recent to join the on going trend
Thank you Omega, but you only have two confirmation dates. Stop knocking on Sony's conference. Oh, PS3 fans are used to delays? So when is the glorified Alan Wake coming? Do keep going. I enjoy watching 360 fanboys downplay stuff like this. Sony announces a sh*tload of games and your best reply to all of this is that they didn't announce release dates.
They lost because of release dates not being announced....oh ya. Because that's what E3 is all about, not games...sorry I got that mixed up. /sarcasm
@ultimolu Spring 2010, you might of missed that detail since your eyes likely weeping from its incredible graphics, dont blame you though @Jaces Unlike everyone else MS was the only company to talk about GAMES and only GAMES, not stuff like sales and statistics. And whats the point knowing about games if you dont know when you can play them hmm? Edit: All they announced was FFXIV a sequel to the 360 version of FFXI, and Agent (which was basically a logo wwoooooo exciting) oh and the racing game hardly anything to shout about
lol mainstream media is just full of sh*t. sorta like you. see what i did there, xbot? at the end of the day, i have more quality and quantity of exclusive games, while you don't...
Omega, Spring 2010? And yet you're knocking PS3 games for no release dates. When in Spring 2010? Do you know? So how could you sit down there and judge PS3 games for not having release dates? Grow up. Oh, and the graphics don't particularly amaze me so I will not be *blown away* as you put it.
I'm seriously not worried about release dates when I'm already drowning in great exclusives to play as well as multiplats that keep me busy. Hey it's cool if it drives you nuts, but I'd rather not know and just let them do their thing and polish the hell out of it rather than giving a release date then moving the game back because of delays. Unless you enjoy sitting at your computer staring at the release date given for your next beloved Xbox hit, or do you not have any good games to take up your time?
The reason that all the interwebz is clamoring that MS "won" is beacuse their conference was very slick and flashy. Content-wise MS and Sony were more or less even and rational people can admit that. MS excelled at the presentation aspect of their conference. Their conference was very well put together. Also, people were duped by the Natal/Milo videos. The technology has potential, however, it would have been more impressive if it had been demoed on stage(Milo)or if it had worked as well as the video claimed (Natal). MS and Sony both had excellent conferences this year and the idea that MS totally blew the competition away is laughable. They were about even content-wise and it's the personal preferences and biases that tip it either way for the person.
This year they lost cause no release dates. Last year because of the announcement of a multiplat (ff13) with (guess what) no release date. (which they tried this year) EPIC FAIL you can thank Kojima-san for lessening the impact Alan Wake, Splinter cell, and Natal all have no release DATE and that was MS best of the show. Crackdown 2 didnt even have footage and it comes this year. Sony shows games an thats good cause thats what "I" want to see. Be fair in what you say else it makes you look like a douche-nozzle. @omega Oh spring 2010, thats when sony motion comes out or you didnt catch that while you were blown away with the accurate 1:1 motion controls real GAMERS perfer?
your mgr .....sorry OUR mgr has no release date, just a pic of raiden....Take off the blinkers Raiinstorm81 he should of noticed...he was that skeleton dude that got his block knocked off with the sword;)
You forgot L4D2 wich will launch @ 17th of november, a pretty solid date, isn't it utilimo?
that the sony supporters were still right don't you? All year, "where are the games?" "M$ is simply hiding it's cards till E3" E3 came and past and Sony STILL has the games this year. M$ may have been "hiding there cards" but it wasn't many...
@ k jules Completely forgot about L4D2 a game that was announced at E3 and got a solid date. Cant say the same for Agent, FFXIV or anything else Sony announced (if there even was anything else). Oh yeah GT5 which didnt even have a year this time who know maybe Sony will push to get it out this year since they NEED a big holiday release
For shadow complex (XBL) Joy Ride (XBL) Halo 3 :ODST Halo Reach Alan Wake Splinter Cell conviction L2D2 (boycott underway no matter how many articles try and disinform) Crackdown 2 Natal and MGR multiplat Wow mustve been a slow year compared to GT5 FF14 Agent The Last Guardian uncharted 2 God Of War 3 Modnation Racers MAG PSP Go! and like 5 new games for it. incl. kojima "True" MGS sequel Sony Motion Control Not to mention the 20+ games they showed in the sizzle trailer. incl. White Knight Chronicles Demon Souls Ratchet and Clank Heavy Rain should i even continue??????? Who had better games???? EDIT @ Omega Uncharted 2 Among Thieves will be GotY. Hows that for Hoilday release. Have fun with Halo.
The ONLY game without a release "window" or date was GT5 and when it comes to that game the Devs literally said "Oh, we could release that game at ANY time, we just keep finding more things to add into it and polishing it" (Not an exact quote) What game do you want a release for?
"Unlike everyone else MS was the only company to talk about GAMES and only GAMES" Huh. I didn't know that Facebook and Twitter were games.
Lmfao, and callahan. I see that 360 fanboys are running rampant on the other article there about how Microsoft "won" E3. Who won e3 IS A MATTER OF OPINION, not FACTS. I thought that Sony did pretty well because that's my opinion. This is getting out of hand.
3 Reasons how sony impressed gamers: GAMES GAMES GAMES Reason #3: Surprises Indeed both parties had surprises, however some had more surprises than others, Microsoft thought they shocked the world by unveiling Natal, but in all honesty any one with half a brain could guess that some sort of motion controls will be shown by both Sony and Microsoft. MGS:Rising coming to 360 was also a globe-busting announcement, or was it? considering all the pre-E3 hype surrounding MGS coming to 360 I wouldn't say so, this was also quite expected. Kojima's site countdown even ended at Microsoft's Press Conference - put two and two together and you get MGS:Rising. So who really had the surprises? Well to put it bluntly, Sony. Did you know about a Final Fantasy 14 exclusive to PS3 before E3? or did you know anything about Rockstar's PS3 exclusive 'Agency' which will apparently utilise the Blu-Ray in a way no other game has? didn't think so.
"Firstly I'd like to stress that although I don't really see E3 as a competition" sounds right to me, no reason to click that link then. ill just be on my way, thank you very much for not wasting my time.
Reason #1: Exclusive Titles They showed more games, this is a straight up simple fact, Sony displayed more exclusive games on the show than Microsoft, ranging from GT5, to Uncharted 2, MAG and the epic conference-concluding God of War III, it's undeniable that Sony brought the games home, and after all isn't that what E3 is all about primarily? games, games and more games. Sony also showed a greater variety of games, from ModNation racers to action games like God of War III to more sophisticated/mature themed games like Heavy Rain, Sony simply had the better, more varied exclusive games.
Actually gametrailers crowned sony the winner not in the bonus round but in there 2 podcasts. I dont listen to micheal pachter that guy knows nothing about video games.
Sony did pretty well. They deserve more credit. Games upon games were announced. Now I'll never get off my PS3/PSP. xD
they literally had TOO many games to show and had to display MOST (not even all) of them as short clips in a game preview montage also known as their "Sizzle" trailers. Imagine if Sony had an extra hour what the opinion everywhere would be. If M$ had another hour they would probably have had another concert and shot a music video from it and we would have seen the SAME number of games they showed.
I know...they were overloaded. I just hope Brave Arms wasn't canceled. I hope to hear more at TGS.
I would love to visit news for gamers and not talk about the prospect and potential of motion controls for the next 2 years and why or why not Milo is A gamers dream come true but I live on earth and I play real games. Its not a hard desicion for people like me to not spend $350 dollars on xbox and xbox live to play halo reach. I have a funny feeling alan wake is a timed exclusive as well. Twitter and facebook is probly the biggest joke to me because as soon as i open my ps3 browser and the playstation logo loads up I have access to twitter and facebook and never used it in 2 years. but its cool if people want to pay to xboxlive for it I thought they were free services. Last FM is to them as pandora.com is me on my ps3. pandora is free to me. The comparisons and similarities are endless with the final edge being that ps3 online is free. So, what does it finnaly come down to? Games. you know what the media and 360 fans dont want to talk about anymore.
Alan Wake will ever see a PS3 release. That is what Sony needs, a first party survival horror game.