Ex-Team Ninja boss Tomonobu Itagaki has laid into Platinum Games' Hideki Kamiya by saying if he'd made Bayonetta whilst at Tecmo, people would have thought him stupid.
lol as if suddenly he's a gaming god to judge others , this kagi btch better make good games then talk shiet about others
This guy claimed at one time if I recall correctly that the game Ninja Gaiden II could not run on the PS3... His predecessors have done just that, ported the game with more content to the PS3 and will soon be released. I could care less about platform specifics but come on, any idiot that claims this stuff is just that, an idiot. So what's the difference between making a game that looks pretty slick with a half naked chick and guns for boots and making silly claims about how a game won't run on a console that soon gets ported over to the competition? I say, the game part is a more gratifying... Itagaki - STFU Please.
I love Itagaki lol. TGSI
No, it was more like it would be an insult if it were ported. That it would never live up to the original. Much like NGS didn't live up to any of the versions of NG. Like the man did it right the first time. But yeah, now that he kicked himself out of Team Ninja, the man has to at least make a new game before he can talk smack on any level. I'm also going to guess that he meant that he'd have been laughed at by making her breasts so small. Not giving them any bounce.
I'd call him an idiot without Bayonetta anyway . Hell i always did ...
Syronicus Arent those claims also said about the 360??? Sony devs have been throwing that BS back and forth as how this cant be done on the 360, Sony Devs:blah, blah,BS,BS and more BS,blah,blah,blah BS.....every game can be done on the 360 and vise versa BUT due to Disk limitations and Publishing rights they never will.
Disk limitation. You say all. In addition, you don't know if it is BS or not, since they will never come out in 360
Last time I checked, this guy was already being called an idiot by everyone, he doesn't need to make a game for that.
Absolutely. But this is not about a Sony dev so it falls on him this thread. That is why I said nothing console specific. IMHO there are turds on both sides of the fence when it comes to talking smack but here we have a dev talking smack about a cross platform title. IMHO he is just upset that the chick in this game does not have 4XD breasts... Or does she? Hmmmmm.....
Everybody should know by now that I am a rabid Sony fanboy but, I'm starting to hate this site with such a passion(well not the site but the users of it)... @Syronicus is saying a lie and he has a lot of agrees then @Godmars290 comes to correct him saying the true and gets like 12 disagrees and 0 agrees. I know we are always in a constant fight of Sony vs Microsoft but come on! How can you agree with a false fact? Are you people so blind by fanboyism that you no longer care for facts? This makes me really sad. =( @LONEWOLF231 made another interesting point and he only got smashed with a lot of disagrees...
How is what I said a lie? I am pretty sure that He said NGII could not be done on the PS3 and now his old team is porting it over. I am not discrediting the 360, by all means not at all. What I am saying is that Itagaki has no credit since he was wrong about NGII. What am I lying about?
He never said that Ninja Gaiden II wasn't possible on the PS3. Never. At one point Itagaki even said that the PS3 is powerful but that he preferred the X360 because it was a more balanced soldier that provided him the power he wanted at the cost of easier development than on PS3. At one point Itagaki said that the X360 was more powerful than the PS3 but that was when the PS3 first came out and he wasn't the only one believing that. ----------------------------- ------------------------------ - ----- 1UP: In terms of hardware, you know, one hardware that obviously isn't just like a super powered PC is the very architecturally complex Playstation 3. And, do you think, in almost ironic fashion, that the PS3 and its complicated hardware has widened the gap between top-tier development teams and the smaller development teams with fewer resources? Meaning, do you think that the complexity of the hardware has actually made it harder for most medium-to-smaller Japanese development teams to keep to keep pace with, say, what western developers are doing on the Xbox 360? TI: First of all, I think that the PS3 was kind of an attempt by Kutaragi-san to create a uniquely Japanese computer to take on the Wintel standard. And I think that Kutaragi-san was very much a fighter pilot in the hardware realm just as I was a fighter pilot in the software realm, and in that sense I have a lot of respect for him. To me, having a fighter that's easy to pilot and as powerful, makes it easy to win. And that's my main goal, and that's why I choose to pilot a 360. http://www.1up.com/do/featu... ----------------------------- -------------- From the article: "If I made a similar game as a game I made in the company I quit, people would say, ‘What an idiot, can’t he make anything else?’ Well, that is more or less the opinion I have for, uh, that Bayo-something game," said Itagaki to 1UP at E3. - That's what I have been saying all the time. Bayonetta is just another Devil May Cry game but with more gun fight. That's almost the same story as the the guy that left Capcom because he didn't want to make anymore Onimusha games and then he goes to Sony and makes Genji(Onimusha Clone).
I disagree Itagaki, people call you an 'idiot' now.
itagaki actually likes ninja blade more than all the other hack/ slash games, other than god of war. http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...
Itagaki might seem arrogant, but I do like the fact that he says it as he sees it. No politically correct BS. In addition, he also shows respect for some designers he believe are great. This to me shows that Itagaki has his own reasoning for why he respects one over another instead of just claiming himself as the best. In this instance, it is kind of odd that Hideki chooses to create a very similar game to DMC, but just with another company....
Bayonetta is my most anticipated multiplatform game this year... No joke. I REALLY am hooked to play the crap out of this game when it drops. Fully pre-ordered and I haven't even liked any of the DMC games after #1. It just looks so slick and stylized and that's what Itagaki needs to do with his next hack and slash game. Ninja Gaiden 1 = Awesome and #2 = massive trash to me. :(
partially because people already dont like him, and I think thats what he wants...
thats because only the first dmc was directed by Hideki Kamiya, the same guy who did resident evil 2, okami, viewtiful joe and now bayonetta.
he's just jealous that he can't work on the metroid game and give Samus Huge, woobling boobs -_- this guy is really a idiot, team ninja is better without him...
is an Idiot. No one makes action games as fluid as Ninja Gaiden & the Sigma games are not as smooth as the Gaidens made under his influence.
im sorry Itagaki we already know that you are an idiot, better luck next time.
Too true mate. Exactly what i thought
wait a min. when haven't we called him an idiot?
When he didn't open his mouth. Which started happen when he jumped from Sony to MS stating that DO3 was impossible on the PS2 though it used the exact same game engine as DOA2.
The problem for Itagaki is that her breasts don't jiggle enough.
i guess he is that worried that SOMEONE ELSE can make better action games with chicks than him .... It's like he hoped gamers would wait for his next game .. or is it that hard to exist without tecmo itagaki ??
Would rather not see the professionals who have made this industry bandy it about like they have been doing for the last week. Of course, I'm sure most gaming news sites would disagree with me since it gets them hits.
He doesn't need to make Bayonetta for that haha That statement is enough.
And then I lol'd.
Why do people adore this guy he made 3 ips tecmo bowl doa and ninja gaiden. And only the 1st and 3th are actually still good doa turned to sh!t and ng2 was buggy and unpolished. Dont think he is 1 to comment on other peoples games while in the last years the only thing he did was make new b00b physics
Itagaki does not approve
he's criticizing the DMC creator for making another brawler I almost started to respect him when he praised Nintendo recently, way to lose that credibility quickly. I guess he's fighting back to this "I've never played Ninja Gaiden, and to be honest, I'm not that interested. looking at his career compared to Hideki Kamiya however, Itagaki has done DOA, NG, Tecmo Bowl and a volleyball game whereas Kamiya has worked on RE, Viewtiful Joe, DMC, Okami, Bayonetta personally I'd root for Kamiya
Itagaki always hated Hideki Kamiya for stealing his Thunder. Hideki Kamiya * Bayonetta (2009) - director * Ōkami (2006) - story, director * Viewtiful Joe 2 (2004) - story * Gyakuten Saiban 3 (2004) - voice actor * Viewtiful Joe (2003) - director * Resident Evil Zero (2002) - game design * Devil May Cry (2001) - director * Resident Evil 2 (1998) - director * Resident Evil (1996) - system planner * Arthur to Astaroth no Nazo Makaimura (1996) - planner
Viewtiful Joe is the best game ever!
He wasnt involved in mad world? Sad that game didnt sell would love to see it on ps3 or 360.
EDIT: reply fail. this is meant in response to comment 13.9 That's an opinion. and everyone has a right for that. But the fact is that say, DMC and NG are different. In the latter you can't do combos like in DMC, and like the jerk himself said the gameplay is quite different. That depends on what you (player) want from the hack and slash.
Wow, Itagaki, i call you idiot anyway
Im sorry, I love Ninja Gaiden, but dis guy needs 2 stop trashing other devs' projects.
seems like HE needs hits. Anybody who can dis his own subordinates is a idiot no matter what he's done
Same here, Gaiden is amazing but he needs 2 shut it cos Kayima has made only amazing games compared 2 his 1 amazin 1 decent
I don't even see the point of saying that. "If I made a similar game as a game I made in the company I quit" Basically, he's not even calling the game stupid. He's just saying that if he made another action game, he'd be stupid. I think he's a little frustrated.
for not joining microsoft
no...Itagaki is an idiot because he spouts his dumb mouth off for a year about NG2...and it ended up being less than spectacular...so he then blames his team...
WTF IS THIS!??!?! vg247 is creating news on a 1up interview that was posted 2 days ago... all he did was put this flamebait title and here it is again.
Thats completely debateable, I don't think NG touches God Of War 1 an 2, Or the first and 3rd Devil May Cry, NG is very good but being the best is a matter of opinion.
I agree Reaper. I only picked up NG2 a while ago and I haven't played the first one, and while I think it's good, I don't think it comes anywhere near GOW1/2 or DMC1/3
you guys leave out dmc 4 because it's on 360 too right. i though dmc4 was the best in the series, imo of course. god of war was cool and so was ninja gaiden. although they're the same KIND of game they're not the same style.
I respectably disagree. I felt that GoW 1&2 had excellent cinematics, but the gameplay itself wasn't very deep.Take away the larger than life cinematics, the feeling of empowerement and suddenly the gameplay is a little above avergge. In contrast, NG series is completely opposite. The cinematics is so so, but the gameply is amazingly deep. No other game touches NG in combat mechanics.
and no game touches DMC combos. anyway I'd place the first DMC and NG above GoW. However I think DMC deserves more credit than NG because it was the first. it was what Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy were to console rpgs.
That was truly professional.
I wonder what cookigaki has to say about this
he fell asleep on a pile of rice cakes. And he's an idiot
This guy is just looking for work. Hes kind of just a washed up, burn victim. game developer. I'm surprised he isn't working for MS since his an xbot.
He clearly has some grudge with his old company, kind of sad =/ any trash talking is unprofessional, and unmodest, and if anything, it just makes the dev look like an idiot... Seeing a tendancy here...Turn 10....Itagaki...hmmmm
except that turn10 makes great racers, while polyfony makes one great game, and 47 trailers. and then puts a trailer in the beginning for you to watch, called an intro. lol. damn...i remember that's how CDs started to claim being better, because EVERY ps game back then HAD to have a cg intro. lol. edit @ below gt5 will be NICE...but forza motorsport 3 is going places that gt doesn't even try. like they're just now getting damage when forza is past that, onto community and user customizations. gt just gets the technical aspect, while FM3 will be getting a FULLY decked out user customization suite.
Praise it all you want but dont cry about it when GT5 is released and everyone says it is better.
this is about itakagi being a idiot, not about FM3 or GT5, keep on topic dudes...
haha, lol, he's a funny guy
I love reading his interviews more than any other devs. He's just a funny azz dude, the kind you get hammered with just to see WTF he says next. I never really take what he says to heart, even when talked ish about the PS3(Lord Forgive'em). He just cracks me up. Itagki is to Devs, what R* is to games and I love him for that. Keep up the over the top antics good sir! XD
Wow look at all the haters, it's like you guys have some sort of sentimental attachment to the people he talks about, are you all really that invested into a single person? Is Kamiyama(I know that isn't his name, but I am watching Cromartie, look it up)really that important to you OR!!! do you guys just like to jump on Itagaki because he doesn't make games for your precious? I think Itagaki is a very awesome person who says whatever he thinks and for that alone I think he deserves respect because we know that in the game industry there are only a select few who does that and Itagaki is one of them, what about David Jaffe? Do you hate that he speaks his mind too? Of course you don't, you guys probably have Jaffe posters on your ceiling for nighttime fun. -_- *goes back to buying Rock Band tracks*
in fact, i think that jaffe is a idiot too -_-
I understand what he is saying. He basically means that. Hideki Kamiya of DMC is making Bayonetta and for better or worse the game is more or less DMC with a female lead a little bit more stylish and a few more things that were not possible with DMC. Now with Itagaki his new game as he would have us believe is something completely new and not just Ninja Gaiden or DOA with a new face he says he is not relying on what he did while at Tecmo for ideas on what he is making now. While Kamiya is more or less still making DMC with a new face. Now since we haven't seen Itagaki-san's game we can't really take this comment to heart but perhaps after TGS we can understand this statement a bit more.
Even if that were true , Itagaki was allowed to the same for his two game series ... why shouldnt Kamiya be allowed to revisit DMC ? Especially when he had no involment in the sequels . That's where i'd call Itagaki an hypocrite . he has done the same , and right now got nothing else to show .
Maybe while Itagaki was working at Tecmo he had no choice but to keep making Ninja Gaiden games and DOA games. After all if you look at what Tecmo had those are pretty much the only games they had that sold. Even if he had wanted to make a new IP they would have probably been hesitant to allow him to do so. That could have been the explanation for why the more experimental DOA games like Code Cronus never saw the light of day as the higher ups in Tecmo may not have been confident in their ability to sell while games like DOA 4 and Ninja Gaiden 2 were pretty much guaranteed hits. And a completely new IP would have been out of the question. Now I'm not saying this is 100% how it was but it's something to keep in mind.
I don't leave out DMC 4 for any other reason than the fact that I just really did not like Nero as the main character, I wanted Dante in the lead role, not a Dante wannabe. Yes I also know that Dante was in DMC4 for half of the game, but it really felt to me like they just threw him in there to make the fans of the first few games happy.
What a tool! He's still bitter about most likely being picked on constantly in high school. He should quit making games and do some Proactiv ads.
Thats the same idiotic talk that so many western dev's showcase. He is just more direct and outspoken. Imo this whole politics of disrespect and loss of reality when it comes to the competition is pathetic to start with. Dont let them get away with it.