Product Reviews: Project Natal looks to be one of the best pieces of technology we have seen since the Wii first came along. However, the new Project Natal for use with the Xbox 360 blows anything we have ever seen in gaming out of the water.
Microsoft made themselves look foolish. http://www.n4g.com/events_e...
Come on GOS .(just now decided to call you that) Its hard to say that because at other points it was solid at the ms conference. Ms should have had as real demo .
so basically this means the Wii and PS3 should stop selling right now and everybody should get a 360 just to wait for natal to come out
"Project Natal looks to be one of the best pieces of technology we have seen since the Wii first came along." The wii was never a great piece of technology. An overclocked gamecube with an accelerometer duct taped to a TV remote.
Best technology since the wii, lmao
I think Gran Turismo 5 made Turn 10 look foolish
Sony made themselves look foolish. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I posted this in another thread, but I feel that it is just as relevant here. http://www.gametrailers.com... Watch "Episode 60" Special E3 edition. These guys pegged E3 09' pretty much perfectly.
Kind of like this? BAM!!! There it is!
A US site ran an internet poll in a region where the 360 has twice as many users as the PS3 and, surprise surprise, the 360 received about twice the votes. Bravo....*slow clap* Bravo.
Motion Controllers are just a gimmick. I don't care who makes them. You don't release a peripheral like that this late in the console cycle if your serious about developing for it. This tech wont be out until late next year, how much longer do you people think the 360 will be out? At 200$, I really don't see this tech spreading fast enough to warrant all these predictions that it will 'change teh face of gaming'. Its sad that we're sitting here talking about a glorified camera, but it makes sense, because its not like there are a lot of 360 games to be talking about. MS has a serious void in their lineup. They don't have a single GOTY contender. And I really think its sad that people are trying to pawn off Splinter Cell as a GOTY contender. Nobody even thought to mention ODST, and I thought Halo was supposed to be the 360's flagship game. Anyways, Assassin's Creed looks better than Splinter Cell, and I wouldn't even call that game a contender.
Well, E3 is in the US.... what do you want them to do, run the voting in Australia? Regardless of fanboyism or not, a lot of people will take notice to innovative technology and not more of the same. This is evident by all the non-gaming media attention MS is getting. Also, there is always the same haters in the Xbox 360 section threadcrapping. Why don't you guys hang out where you allegiance is, the Playstation 3 news section.
?? Lol just playin, Natal has potential if I can use it with fight night then it will be awesome.
PS2 = http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... PS3 eye pet = http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I think the point that Darkride is trying to make is that the survey pool is skewed toward the 360 statistically, as there is a larger install base than the PS3 and that base is more likely to respond to a poll like this than the Wii user base, that this poll is pretty much useless.
Again the same old Natal vs PS motion controller crap... It's ironic how before E3 everyone were boycotting motion controllers and saying that it's like a stray dog and has to be put down... After E3 all of a sudden motion controllers seem to be the new thing.. I seriously can't see how these things could REDEFINE THE GAMING INDUSTRY. If companies think like that, then sadly they don't even know what true gamers want. As far as this article goes... M$ made fools of competition... Are you joking... all they did was sign a death warrant cause if Milo fails, Natal=PSEye. If PSEye couldn't REDEFINE gaming at a time when more than 100 million PS2 were out, Natal stands no chance. The only way is to thrust the thing down peoples throats like wii does with it's motion sensors... I can bet anything that won't do that simply cause Natal will be expensive. Third party will be divided off which to support... Supporting PS controller would be easier compared to Natal mainly cause Natal claims NO BUTTONS. Without buttons, say bye bye to Shooters and Fighters on Natal... You cannot disagree that Shooters are the 360's and PS3's biggest market and no Natal support on TPS and FPS means a real big nail in the coffin. As I said, Natal's biggest let down is it's claim of NO BUTTONS. Sony did the clever thing here. They copied Nintendo's controller and made it a 1:1 tracking controller. People always complained about Nintendo not having hardcore games and crap graphics... Well Sony just heard their plea and launched a controller with massive potential. It might look crappy to look at from those videos, but the accuracy they showed was simply remarkable... Before that, I couldn't imagine taking head shots with any motion controllers (including Natal), but after seeing that Archery display, Sony has done it's Homework and have something bigger in hand.
And this article is three days old! Lmfao, I sense really desperate folks out there... Oh, and gotta love IdleLeeSiuLung. Oh noes, it's teh 360 section! People aren't allowed to talk! I'm sorry but this is E3 news, not 360 news.
No, THIS is how microsoft made themselves look foolish: http://youtube.com/watch?v=...
Fix your console first before you start talking about your rip off products. Microsoft didn't win ONE AIAS award in 2008, Sony won 10 including GOTY. Microsoft is always 3rd in hardware sales after Nintendo and Sony. Sony sold 35 million consoles in 2008. What can microsoft do to stop Sony? NOTHING. :)
@ IdleLeeSiuLung - This isn't the Xbox 360 section, this is about E3. In case you didn't happen to notice it, this involves Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony. We all have a right to discuss this stuff. Some of us who own all the consoles and felt that all 3 companies showed us a whopping amount of kick-ass content this year are just getting sick of all the Microsoft ass-kissing that's going on, because they DIDN'T make the competition look foolish, and I believe it's foolish to say they did. They showed us some cool games and some cool tech, and guess what so did Sony and so did Nintendo, so all these people need to get over this whole situation. I'm getting sick of the media biases.
You took my words...
anything makes Sony look more foolish than this does. http://www.theonion.com/con...
This journalism site doesnt understand the nature of the CellBE, and how 256mb of XDR running at the native frequency of 3.2ghz in conjunction with native, an on-die ram controller translates into burst speed level 3 cache as well as one of the most powerful and innovative processors ever engineered. Also what about the Nueral Impulse actuator? Conveniently forgot about the device that converts brain wavelengths into native computer commands? Oh, right, that isnt innovative at all. My bad, as you were, then.
" think Gran Turismo 5 made Turn 10 look foolish " Forza has outscored Grean Turismo for 2 games straight. Foza just proved its graphics are just as good as GT5 and the environments look even better in Forza 3. And Forza 3 was announce in June and will ship in October, Gran Turismo 5 was announced 4 years and still doesn't have a release date. Also, it wont match even Forza 2 in features and Forza 3 is going to have overall a higher Metacritic score than Gran Turismo 5....by the time it releases people will have already seen Forza 3's graphics...GT5 really doesn't look better. hhahahaahaha
The problem is with Natal is that you can only play few games with it. Playing Gears of War, Call of Duty, Fable, or Halo with Natal would be impossible. You can only play sports, racing, and minigames with the thing. You need a controller to play the other genres.
Because Metacritic is so trustworthy. I could state that Gran Turismo sells a f*ckton more than any Forza game could hope to sell, meaning it's obviously superior, but that would make my argument just as lame as yours. Forza < Gran Turismo and everyone knows it but the most hardcore of 360 fanbots.
when they tried to market last-gen tech as the next big thing. here's your natal right here, xboxers: http://www.youtube.com/watc... LOL.. enjoy your mini-games i can't believe how xboxers love MS so much.. they intentional forget that natal is nothing new. voice recognition = ENDWAR in 2008. full body control = ps2 eyetoy
You're forgetting Lifeline which released in 04 or 05. Completely voice controlled, and completely crap.
I wonder what sparked the ideas of Natal maybe these did. Eyedentify http://www.youtube.com/watc... PSEye Demo video http://www.youtube.com/watc...
love these articles, Sony had the ps eye since the ps2, nintendo releases the Wii with motion controllers... which both is called crap, then all of a sudden, MS comes out with Natal, apparently wins E3 do to Natel which has been proven fake at E3... (im sure with time it will work) get praised for Innovation...YES...but yet there still coping their competition.... MS is the joke, almost everytime.
A poll in the same US where sony DOMINATED last gen, 'cause Americans are soooo biased. lmfao JOY
Wow, all the same lame PS3 fans with their spin and damage control. Natal is nothing but Eye Toy, the media is biased, blah, blah, blah... At this point they're just making themselves look pathetic and stupid. If they really didn't see the 360 as a threat there wouldn't be a deluge of PS3 fanboys hurriedly posting their nonsense in every news story on the subject.
Its the most intense damage control I have ever seen some how the PS3 fanboys have made this an issue suggesting MSFT said they made an "artificial lifeform living in a box" and was caught in a lie about it lol. MSFT crushed Sony this E3 and yes I would be worried about the mass appeal of Natal too! if my console of choice was last and now has no hope of gaining ground. Its not normal for people to seek out all related articles and post trash comments while fantical contributors try to shape popular opinion from a handful of pro Sony or anti MSFT media they hunt for.
At all of you complaining and whining, visit BIoodmask's thread. http://forums.n4g.com/tm.as...
and now i feel foolish... LOUD....check Janky....check bad graphics....check 3 exclusives....check i hope things get better for me. so far this thing is a piece. anyone have any games to recommend to me?
Right. one guy tosses out a presumptive blip, and it somehow overcomes all the *AWE* experienced by BBC, Wired, Time, Joystiq, Eurogamer and every one else who saw Milo. You guys are laughing stock.
@GIJeff You're so full of it. Newer 360s are as quiet as the PS3. In fact, my friend's 360 is actually quieter than my PS3. My 360 is a hair louder than my PS3, but not enough to make much of a difference. Bad graphics? Sure buddy. I have both machines and if you want to know the truth, the 360 actually tends to have the better graphics on most games. Many of the PS3 exclusives are nice-looking, but not really any better than the better-looking 360 games. At worst, you could say that the two console's graphics are fairly comparable. 3 exclusives? Now we know you are full of crap. At this moment the 360 has a much larger library of games than the PS3 and that includes a larger library of exclusives. Go look it up. We know you won't though, because you are just a PS3 fanboy trolling and trying to pretend that you just bought a 360. When in fact, everything you said was provably wrong.
i got mine from best buy about 4 hours ago. i got an elite that came with fable 2 and halo 3. at best buy, i was with a friend who has only a 360 and i asked him what game i should get starting off with my 360. he said fable 2 and halo are good games that showcase the machine pretty well. i looked for about 5 minutes more at the games at best buy, trying to see if there was any exclusives i was missing out on....nope. i couldnt find anything that wasnt multi platform. live was the biggest pain in the @$$ to set up with that POS dpad and non-querty keyboard(PS, is there any way to change that) I think the live store or market or whatever is pretty nice, but the avatar is retarded. and my elite is LOUD. freaking really loud. It was quiet until i put in halo 3. Then its like vroooooom. i hope it doesnt break already. PS my online name is: birdino
That doesn't change the fact that the 360 does have a much larger selection of exclusives and multiplatform games. The way you claimed it only had 3 exclusives revealed you to be a fanboy, whether you bought a 360 or not. I prefer my 360 a little bit above my PS3, but I would never say something as ridiculous as "the PS3 only has 3 exclusives" or "the PS3 has bad graphics". Yet that is exactly what you said about the 360, even though neither of those things are true.
That my friend, was fvcking hilarious. None of Sony's products have been like that for me, but the Onion does an awesome job at making me laugh. :P On a side note, but more on topic: Natal looks really stuuuuuuuuupid. All they showed was stupid tech demos anyway. Who wants to spend their time doing that retarded sh!t by themselves anyway? (Cool painting though, I cant wait to splash paint all over the damned walls using my hands. I also can't wait to destroy my living room flailing my arms like a retard playing a one sided dodgeball game where the enemy is myself.) ***did you see how many virtual balls Abigail took to the face during the demonstration? That doesn't look very fun to me*** -OMFG!!! Natal could help you lose calories, it's a workout!!- I personally prefer my video games to be a little bit less of a workout, and more of a relaxing endeavor. -BUT you can ACTUALLY T-bag people in real-time!- Oh yeah? What game? That sh!t's not going to support multiplayer, let alone games where you have to walk more than a few steps... -Running in place?- Let's not be retarded here. Imagine all the possibilities of Natal... Now imagine them being pissed on by a drunk guy eating pringles talking about his lawn-mower, because news flash! No controller means NO CONTROL. /rant. Sorry if you don't understand it, but people that praise Natal (without even seeing anything REAL and useful or fun looking [If you thought the avatars or painting looked fun, you have a sad and boring life and I hope you see the light someday]) piss me off. :) Lol. Wow, long rant! :D
@ `"1.10 - When will you MS blowhards give it a rest Motion Controllers are just a gimmick. I don't care who makes them. You don't release a peripheral like that this late in the console cycle if your serious about developing for it. This tech wont be out until late next year, how much longer do you people think the 360 will be out?" MS said it at E3, the 360 will be out till 2015.... that places Natal at the middle of its life cycle. If MS puts so much money into it, they`ll make sure it works. It will probably be compaptible with the next xbox as well.
@Ghost: You know why they show certain demos behind closed doors? So they don't have to suffer the snarky blogger wannabes writing like their blog is some supermarket tabloid. And yes, that goes for Kotaku as well.
so like having a poll done here on n4g.com wouldn't be a biased site to do it on. look at all the ps3 fans here, who can't even admit a good game when they see one, if it happens to be on the 360. Just like the normal, M$ paid them to say that. yea, well why is there not way more M$ comments and article's that are as biased as the s--t you see in here. I think god of war will be one of the best games of next year, if not the best. why can't a lot of sony fans on this site admit that a game is the shiiiz. let the disagree's pile up.
@ Photoy Yeah because we all know how insanely accurate the Eye Toy is... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Comparing it to the Natal and the Eye Top is like comparing a Ferrari to a push chair. Yeah they both essentially do the same thing move. But how effective is a different matter.
*sigh* you know what i just don't know if i should even bother saying anything since an exact same article will be posted like 1 hour later
Wow everyone is all over Microsoft's nuts.
I'm not sure if I want to talk with CGI,I think my friends are enough.I'm also not sure if I want to drive with a non existing steering wheel,if you want to feel like it's reel then the best thing to do is get the GT25 steering wheel..I mean you're actually doing what you do in real life when you're driving. Playing goal keeper seems to work though.
That's what i was about to say. That natal/gimmick thing wont work. It's comepletly useless for hardcore games which include platforming and puzzles. This poor excuse of an eyetoy is not for hardcore gamers like us.
Thwe only motion controls we really know about and how they work so far are the Wii and , to a lesser extent the sixaxis and the Eyetoy stuff. We don't really even know much about M+, the new Sony motion dildo or Natal/Milo/MS stuff so can't we, and the damn sites, stop the BS already? When we get to play it, see more with our eyes OR, on the odd chance that it may,it gets canned. Until then I wish we'd either talk about the possibilities of them and drop judging things we know next to sod all about. Personaly I don't see where Milo will help with games but, again, it isn't my job to find them. So lets stop posting the stories and going on the rants as NOTHING can be proved one way or the other regardless of your opinion of the Milo showing. Honestly , haven't we had enough of these stories from both viewpoints-esp when 90% of N4G users don't even want to use motion controls.
Judging from what they show, you could have yourself scanned with the driving wheel peripheral of your choice in your hands and use that as a controller. I don`t see this as much of a thing for gaming aside from Jedi gimmicks. The real deal comes from logging you on instantly when it recognizes your face or scrolling through the UI with simple Obi Wan gestures. Voice recognition would be great if it can "Lauch Castle Crashers" when I say so and recognizee the 2 other people on the couch and sign them on automatically so they play too. Then I want to play it with a 360 controller as usual.
Sony have full body motion controllers since PS2 that work. Not fake sh#t, god you gullable bots by into any crap.
hahaha That's not the same technology as Natal you moronic droid. Is everyone in the world really THAT STUPID, and you that smart??? Where everyone is acting this way over Natal for no reason....its really already been here. You dumb droid, and Xbox 360 had the best and most new games announced also.
marty that's really2x cool. do you think the game is compatible with the ps3 eye?
Wiimaniac got it right. Check out his videos. This tech has been around for a long time now, but M$ is more about marketing than innovation so they always look good in these battles. Thus all the BS hype.
HAHAHAHAHA that is one of teh funiest videos i have ever seen. haha that kid is a dweed , i love that part where he throws like 6 elbos in a row lol. that was classic
Angry N4G PS3 fangurls cant seem to Understand that E309 was Dominated by MICROSOFT. Every Single sites thinks that. N4G Ps3 fangurls need to stop living in their N4G worlds. Theres nothing Wrong in being 2nd man.
how the eff is natal so great? . voice reconition? played EndWar last year full-body motion control? that's just stupid.. do i now have to stand up while playing a game? this sh!t is for casual games like wii sports.. but natal is not even 1 to 1. btw, sony pwns precission then, there are the dumbasses how think that milo boy is the greatest AI ever.. what they fail to realize is that the demo can only do what it's programmed to do. what they did is scripted, pre-set and was very limited.. nothing special there.. finally, there's the eye-toy on the ps2, which did everything that natal has shown. but the eye pet for the ps3 looks more advanced than that POS pedo simulator EDIT: wow, how can these xbots keep ignoring wiimaniacs links: http://www.youtube.com/watc... that is natal right there, made using last gen tech..LOL, enjoy your minigames xbots
what a joke. Let me think, as an example..... racing game with invisible steering wheel, or GT5 with the GT25 steering wheel......let me think I can't believe all the media are simply turning a blind eye to all of the short comings of this tech - altho I suppose its new toys the media like, and buzz, and that's what this is right now
Ummmmm sure.....whatever you say. Doesn't change the fact Sony had an awesome conference as well as having the Game of the show. -Uncharted 2 demo (Game of the Show) -GOW3 demo and release date -Assassins Creed 2 demo -MAG demo -Modnation Racers announcement and demo -Final Fantasy 14 announcement -Agent announcement -Gran Turismo PSP announcement -Resident Evil PSP announcent -Gran Turismo 5 trailer -Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker announcement MicroSoft made all of that look foolish? lol
Sony pretty much 1UPed every single MS announcement, and they did it without useless celebrities.
^ Crineworthy celebrities. I wanted to run and hide when Paul and Ringo came on stage. It was like they had wandered into the wrong place and didn't have a clue what they were doing.
Yoko F*CKING Ono!! >.< WTF were they thinking?!
@6 besides uncharted 2, the rest is pretty much underwhelming to me. The best games on PS3 are multiplatform anyway. Exclusives are just "bread and games" for the drones.
Seeing as like half of them are PSP I think I'll pass :D
However, we all know this Natal project is just another attempt to tak a piece of Ninty's market until it has proven itself.
Sony is scared, I was recently at their meeting and how can they compete home barely allows you to look at the bottom of their shoes. And then, Microsoft showed some exclusive games which are coming out on the PC and will be better and all sony showed are great exclusive that will only come out on PS3. And now what the took MGS and made it multiplatform and all sony has is Uncharted, MAG, GOD 3, LOST PLANET 2 but unlike microsoft they didn't make a big deal. And then you have Milo which is smoke and mirrors compared to Motion control. It's a shame sony lost that. Thanks for deciding my opinion.
are you the guy who gets paid to write those spam fake e-mails that get through filters?
PSEye is real, here and now.
Milo is Fake, Natal is tech from Dreamcast Era http://pc.watch.impress.co....