Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto made a surprising statement concerning the Wii console, and leads one to question the over all quality of Super Mario Bros. Wii.
comes to mind i guess..... thanks
i agree with you but honestly though why would he have said that? im not the most tech swavy person around but i don't see what new super mario bros wii could have or do that would max out the wii compare it to THE GRINDER that has 4 players also offline and online while NSMBW only has offline but the thing THE GRINDER also has that NSMBW doesn't is allot of multiple enemies on screen and much better graphics everything you can think of so honestly i don't get it am i missing something?
secretly owns a PS3 and 360...when he goes to work he deals with the wii
lol if i remember right he did like haze right? wait haze o_O
he is jealous after watching Sony and Microsoft conference they both have what wii was bragging about and with unmatched HD library....i hope that Sony or Microsoft systems sell well after E3 and better than wii which is casual at its best and we all are hardcore players but i dont hate wii at all because of it the industry went BOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!! thanks
It was Killzone 2.
lol this is the first time ive ever heard anyone say this. But then again Nintendo arent really trying to impress gamers with their graphics. But yea i guess he might be hinting at the WiiHD that is supposed to be in development.
This is why I always say the HD system should be doing way more than what they are actually doing with them. The Wii has a 700mhz chip with 88 megs of high speed ram. The HD system have 4ghz chips and 250 megs of ram, do you understand now? The Wii has to handle 4 players with 2d physics and a changing level layout. I'm sure if they had the programming talent they could get more out of it but we all know nintendo is no shader wiz or programming beast. Also we have not seen all of the game yet. Also the play zone is huge. Japan is still behind what the west can do graphically and 3dtech wise yet we are still behind them when it comes to design. This is not the case for both scenarios though.
It was already maxed out at launch... But hey thats what you get with overclocking Gamecube hardware and sell it in a new case!
Wii ? Maxed out ? Nooooooo... get outta town.
noooooooooooooooooooooooo wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy reallyyyyyyyyy!! lol
this is probably his excuse to ditch the wii and use all the money he made from it to make is new HD wii console...
NO SH1T.seriously. . . .
But the thing about (some) of good games on the wii is that they awesome nice visual art for example no heroes, and mad world. which I haven't seen to much on the xbox 360 or ps3.
While the game looks has a clean art to it, and i guess there are physics involved. I still wonder how HVS is managing to get out more of the system. "Mr. Miyamoto also added that the tool set limitations had nothing to do with the Wii console itself, but that designers have faced design challenges since the 8-bit days. " So basically its also how the engine utilizes the Wii. I'm not saying Wii can do PS3 stuff, but i wonder if anything from a translation point went wrong or something. The New SMB on the DS was able to do fine with the lil multiplayer game( getting the stars), so how is the 4 player setup that heavy? " According to Miyamoto, the 4-player support and multiple camera views" So when is process heavy exactly Miyamoto? Still am impressed by what HVS has accomplished. The grinder is going to support 4 player too and you are moving trough 3 dimensions instead of 2.
HVS is doing what HD developers are doing and what PC developers did before them. You use lower bit colors less precision when you rasterize graphics on screen. You do this till you break the engine. If you look at NSMB wii it looks like they are using full screen AA it looks so clean, if so that along would max out your Wii. If you look at demon blade it is clear you can do what ever you want in 2d almost. This maybe Nintendo first true 2d engine on the Wii, I think other developer did their other engines, and they may want to tune it up, yet we have not seen the later levels of this game. Also some of the moving part may have really high texture sizes, if so then that is very easy to fix. Yeah but you can max any system out with bad code when your trying to rush a game and show it too some unsatisfied gamers that simply will not buy your system or game o matter what. The PS3 has been maxed out for a while when you think about it. Coding works backwards people. Any one in software development knows this. You make it work first then you optimize based on the time you have. Then you optimize in order to squeeze features into the game. So you are always maxing out your system. Nintendo is not full of hype talking boxes.
" This maybe Nintendo first true 2d engine on the Wii, " I doubt its a 2D engine, it still renders in 3D space. You can even make a 2D platformer with UT3 engine. The point rather is that i dont believe shiggy actually said its MAXED out, rather in a sense that the way they designed this game demands allot from the CPU. I bet their next zelda game will have some good stuff too, perhaps more stuff than this.
Truth be told,their 1st party games were kinda always maxing it.If,you consider.It is no joke,the wii is literally 2 gamecubes.
Instead of Wii they should of named it W(ea)k. LOL.
Mart you hit the nail right on the head but sadly wii fanboys think its capable of HD graphics lol
really? find me a fanboy anywhere that thinks the wii can do HD graphics because i have never seen one if there some then they are either not a fanboy or just stupid the will never have ps3/360 graphics but its not as bad as everyone makes it sound out to be it can do better than what gamecube did HVS says hello
"really? find me a fanboy anywhere that thinks the wii can do HD graphics because i have never seen one " Never doubt fanboy stupidity. You do realize that it would take only ONE fanboy to prove you wrong, right?
Wii was maxed out before it released the Gamecube took care of that.
Saying that the Wii processor is aready being taxed by having 4 players on screen in a SMB game means nothing. As long as the game is fun that is all that matters to me. You people get caught up in technology that you forget the purpose of gaming and that is to have fun.
Maxed out? it doesnt have a single game that looks better than Ninja Gaiden black and Riddick on the Xbox. Nintendo are pathetic.
i dont care i dont believe it. might be a bad translation or missundesttanding. i wont come to conclusion to quick and wait until it become official
Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Galaxy looks stunning... So I dont really care
Compared to what...other Nintendo games? So then the Wii is NOT a part of this generation then. Make up your mind supporters and defenders of all things Nintendo, is the Wii a part of THIS generation or not? If it is...then NO WII GAME looks stunning, not compared to Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank, Final Fantasy 13, Metal Gear Solid 4...I could go on and on but I hope you get the point. You cannot have it both ways, either the Wii is considered a Part of this generation or it is not. If it is, then we need to compare Wii games on an EVEN playing field to PS3 and 360 games. You cannot say it looks good for a Wii game, if you do....then you are telling me that the Wii is so much more underpowered than the other 2 systems that we should not directly compare them. Hypocrisy at its finest, and a double standard that must STOP. Chit, I have yet to see a better looking Wii game than a PS2 game (SOTC) (MGS3) (GT4) (GOW2)
doG beLIEfs stunning based on the use of the word. stun·ning adj. 2. Of a strikingly attractive appearance. The definition has nothing to do with comparing it to any thing else. It is part of this gen and it is kick a$$ and it's games look good with out needed HD or tons of shaders. Better yet people want to play these games. There is no double standard HD games suck game play wise, which is why you are here and nintendo fans are not there. When they stop sucking then more people will buy them. Same goes for most of the shovel ware on the Wii only a few of these games are even selling. Yet the funny thing is these same companies will make you guys a HD game that is hyped to hell and has mostly quick time events LOL. At least mini games can be played over and over for the challenge LOL. The HD system just have a hard time doing fun? I mean when you can have people see your game and no one wants to walk up and play it then you have a problem. When HD gamers can have company and people are not claimering to buy the game and mass trade ins are happening to HD games then you have a problem. Also don't you have a HD gamer to fuss with? You guys still believe that the HD system are the only two systems out. I see 3 consoles and only one that is a traditional console and two failed set top boxes. People want games not tech. Or better yet we can not buy hype... I'd rather have a maxed out console than a box that can never get to it's own potential because of the jacked up way it was designed. Oh yeah crytek will max out the PS3. There goes your hype! Welcome to console gaming.
Leave him alone it's just that the big boys where all talking shop and he wanted to add something. We all know the Wii was maxed out with RE4 and RE1 remake on the Gamecube so this is no surprise to anyone but let him speak. lol!
i don't get this. we have E3 and then there is article after article with developers saying 'Console X is maxed out', 'Console Y is maxed out' and so on. I would be very surprised if any console is 'maxed out'
Sort of makes you wonder how good Nintendo games would look on a powerful system like the PS3. Zelda. Mario Kart. OMFG. Blistering 60fps with pixar type graphics. Mario himself - Would be like Ratchet type games. But yeah had to be maxed out early. That's why it's a cheap system.
They would look the same... I mean you really can't see that can you?
He said the processor is TAXED, not maxed out. Headline writers ALWAYS do this...then everyone is up in arms. Jeez....
This could be Nintendo's biggest mistaken or biggest move... You see.. Nintendo already made more money than probably Sony or Microsoft will make this generation... and they did it early.. before Sony or Microsoft bring something better as far as motion is concern. If Nintendo is smart... now they have enough money to research and develop the ultimate game console for the next gen. The question is if they would do that... they are probably trying to figure out how to make another wii like temporary casual device that will make them a ton of money and they just die. I just they don't think they could just keep trying to repeat the wii success. It took them lots of not so great tries... virtual boy, N64, GameCube... ok.. maybe some of those were not complete failures but they weren't at the top of the food chain.
Zone Of The Enders 2 and God Of War 2 look better then Nintendo Wii Games
And people were stupid enough to say RE 5 was coming to Wii........... So Wii HD out next year, then xbox 720 will be out the year after.
It's been maxed out since it was called the Gamecube
Worse then fox news over-analyzing every other thing that Obama says or does. It just sucks that nintendo came to E3 with so many people that were so eager to rip on Nintendo for any mess up. It's plain to see that these jerks are just feeding off of the internets desire to make fun of them because "that's cool". If he honestly thinks that ANY Nintendo game would destroy their own hardware, then it's just becasue of their own stupidity. Not to mention the misleading headline. What Miyamoto said was that New SMB wii is a sidescrolling graphical powerhouse.It is doing so much at one time that wii speak would just give them less resources to make stuff happen. I would love to see the whole quote. And how it literally says nothing about what the wii can or can't do. Though he seems to paraphrase all the stuff inconvenient for what he might be saying. It's sad to see Journalism degrees being used for evil sometimes... Assuming Such degrees are present.
I feel sorry for your brain...lol. Talk about brainwashing people. I am believing you are intelligent though, as you had one of the most coherent comments, if not the most coherent. Bubble for you.
lol the wii launched already maxed out, it's even funnier that there's already a fully working wii emulator that runs games even far better than the ps2 emulator, goes to show you how the weak the wii is, Just slightly more powerful than ps2 and xbox
dolphin emulator :D it rocks and i can higher the resoultion of Wii Games to be more graphical then Wii. Also you can connect WiiMote :D:D Thus Emulator > Actual thing
I agree, the Wii was maxed out going into retail.
for dvd,s but if nintendo start to use dvd 9 to make games it could be diferent
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