Strategy Analytics: Xbox Changes the Game at E3 . Sony and Nintendo Fall Behind in Online Entertainment Battle
nitendo has already won this gen so it mater not
and then another article say "PS3 won" "360 won" how about something that make sense like "Gamers won this generation"
Well as long has you don't mind playing half of the games and waiting another year for your motion sensor. Then I would say go with he 360. EA as already stated the Sonys motion controler is good to go for developers. Nobody knows when the 360's will be ready. MS 2 years ago use to say it's all about the games. Now it's all about facebook, twitter and fm radio. I have a computer hooked up to my TV I can do that on. For me it's still about the games and there they are falling behind.
this news got approved?? hehehe Ok we all agree MS won so what do we gain from winning a company just stfu and enjoy games and life. There is more to life than this everyday fanboyism.....believe me u r missing hell lot of things thanks
Not true, Nintendo isnt that far a head of MS, the gap between MS and Sony should be bigger then the gap between MS and nintendo. If people buy into Natal then the 360 will go on a flow and start showing wii numbers. That is, IF people buy into Natal, hopefully they do. @above, Sony fans gain nothing if MS wins, but MS fans can look forward to more titles being developed for their beloved platform.
"EA as already stated the Sonys motion controler is good to go for developers. Nobody knows when the 360's will be ready. " There are multiple developers working on Natal games right now Rare, Epic, Lionhead all developing for it.
Bungie as well :)
"Not true, Nintendo isnt that far a head of MS, the gap between MS and Sony should be bigger then the gap between MS and nintendo. " once again delusional. Wii - (as of March according to Nintendo) - 50 million consoles MS (as of January 1 according to MS) - 28mil PS2 (as of December 31 according to Sony) - 21.5mil Do the math yourself...
First party devs been working on it and they sent kits to devs this week. LMAO
K, i admit, the wii sold more then i thought it did. But that gap of 20 million consoles is not unbreakable. If the Wii bubble bursts, and Natal takes off, then MS could go beyond the wii. Personally i hope the 360 will be as popular as the ps2 used to be, and from the looks of it now its on its way. @I did not murder him. Indeed, they only recently received the hardware. But that means they got more then a year the time to implement Natal features into games they have been working on now for years. It should not be so hard for them to make the current WIP's Natal compatible with the time they still have. @Vasilisk What imminent pricecut ? And what does Sony have to offer that adds future perspective ? If natal succeeds then every multi game will have exclusive natal features that the sony eye cannot pull off, what do you think the average joe will go for if their local stores have awesome natal demo's. And it aint 7 million, MS went past the 30 million already. And the wii had lost its flair, its not selling so fast anymore, and is constantly shrinking in sales.
have fun with your highly precision camera. http://www.youtube.com/watc... EDIT @foxgod: so 22 million gap and constantly growing these months (more like 25 right know if you add the NPD and Europe sales) is not unbreakable but a 7 million gap, with a price cut imminent, is? Sorry my friend, as much as I don't like it Nintendo will be a the top of this generation. Wii started to sell because of it's price point and motion control first, but now it sells mainly because it's considered to be cool. It;s like the ipod, not the best quality but it's THE thing to own among people that are not hardcore gamers EDIT @Foxgod again: Dude the pricecut this holiday period is a given deal with it, or don't. Also if you add NPD's numbers and Japan numbers the difference this year is around 200-250K consoles. That's it. Do the math yourself. Europe is neck and neck so far. The difference is where it was 6 months ago. Where exactly are the Wii sales slowing down and 360's picking up? http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi... http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi... http://www.neogaf.com/forum... In the last 3 months Wii sold 800K more consoles than the 360. In Europe there is a Wii massacre. The only place that Wii slowed down is Japan, but only for PS3 to pick up the pace. And I don't think that you ever had a pseye to begin with http://www.youtube.com/watc... look at the menu navigation http://www.youtube.com/watc... What exactly is the new concept with Natal? Also have you actually seen the delay with Natal? It's almost a second, at this stage it's virtually unplayable. First they have to fix the delay, then they have to get new games out, set an affordable price point and then we will see. Btw there's a reason why eye toy never exploded and neither will Natal. People want to hold a controller in their hands...
They seem to be heading in different directions While Sony continues to pump out great games, most are lacking an online perspective that opens the community to engaging. (though from uncharted beta is fun as hell) Microsoft is making their console an online goldmine of features (sorry omarja no one cares about the browser in ps3, I've used it maybe 3 times, not worth scrolling around typing things in (you know it true)) If Microsoft comes up with a way of instant 1080p streaming that'd be amazing, with their party chat, family interactive games (1v100, etc) its opening up a whole new market as well as keeping the core audience satisfied with games like halo:odst,reach, MGR, Alan Reach, etc. Its Xbox Live that makes Microsoft the true winner this generation (excluding wii).
Damn all the MS fans all worked up for Natal. Once again MS does something Sony has been doing since PS2 and everyone comes out and say it will change the game. Sony has been there and done that and there are games right NOW on PSN to show for it. This is old tech people stop hyping it up!
Well no Sh%T sherlocks that its not precise yet its not even ready for launch unlike the SONY's waggle wand is. I mean i have hopes for this natal project too but so far it seems like MS and Sony switched this time. MS going for a more future proof as Sony hitting it up now. Personally what would you rather have? You doing all the motions, ex. Giving ammo to a friend, going stealthy in a future Splinter cell, so whenever you mess up YOU really mess up, or some Street Fighter or Tekken where you take the ring. Something like that i would love. Also was the PSeye able to do what they did with Milo? I never had one im asking.
@1.1 Analysts are paid by investment firms for unbiased analysis. You people simply *DISMISS* their verdict and substitute it for your own opinion? How do you people survive in the modern world, have you absolutely no common sense? How do you survive the modern media? The Xbox 360 has had an increase in year-over-year sales thusfar in 2009. They are **EXTENDING** the lead over PS3. It is not "shrinking" -- it is growing! The numbers are their for everyone to see. After this show -- where MS deliverd to all markets -- MS is going to have another year burying PS3. That's the opinion of a PAID PROFESSIONAL. And I agree with him.
I love how everyone is all drooling over Natal and/or PS3 motion controls. I don't care how advanced they may seem, they're still going to be gimmicks and appeal to the casual gamers. So go ahead and bash the Wii for its casual appeal and motion controls, but once it comes to your system of choice it's "OMG MOTION CONTROLS YAH". Give me a break.
Are you kidding me? The 360 will pull ahead of the competition because of online t.v. and movie streaming. The internet already provides these services for free, try Hulu or watch-movies-links.net, all watchable through a PS3. Everyone including Microsoft was preaching to the quire at E3. What kind of lame analyst is this (it seems like this article was rushed and typed in five minutes) it should not have been approved but I guess a tittle is all it takes anymore.
The neat thing about those features is not merely just having them. It is the fact that it is integrated into the console itself. The console millions of us are using as our primary gaming platform. If I am on my 360 and just want to stop to check up on something on my Facebook account I don't want to have to go get up, turn on my computer and wait for it to boot and then finally go to Facebook. And I definitely am not going to turn of my 360 and start up my Ps3 just to use its substandard web browser to do something quick on twitter or Facebook. Having it right there built into the dashboard is slick as hell. I don't understand how some of you guys don't see what is cool about these features. Anyway, the 360 has increased its sales lead over the Ps3 since the first year it was launched and I think it is poised to increase the gap between them. The Wii may be impossible to ever catch up with, but not necessarily. In any case, I can definitely envision scenarios in which the Wii sales slow and the 360 increases its sales enough to bring the two consoles to within a few million of each other by generation's end. Right now the Wii is sitting at roughly 50 million units sold, the 360 at 30 million and the Ps3 at around 22 million. That is obviously a pretty sizable lead the Wii has over the 360, but it is nowhere near the kind of lead the PS2 had over its competitors last generation. It is actually surprising how relatively close in sales the three consoles are this gen. When you consider that all console makers have expressed their plans to keep supporting their consoles for many more years I still think it is anybody's game. Although, I do think the 360 has a better chance of overtaking the Wii than the Ps3 does.
fine for North Americans. As a European, i felt Sony conference was much better.
Why? Will all those great looking MS games not be available in Europe? I'm in the UK and I thought MS hit a home run at E3.
I think he means the features.
Same here (Also, @ guy from UK: you british are xbots as well, you like the 360 most)
I'm sure 2011 will be the year of the Playstation 3.
Dont speak for all of us Europeans, i am dutch, i dont agree with you.
Sony conference was defiantly better, they showed the best lineup of games... M$ new services (Twitter,FaceBook) can also be accessed via the PS3 Browser so it's not that much of a deal to PS3 owners... The 1080p movie streaming will require a high connection speed & you can't save your movies or even go forward, The Movie service on the PSN can be rented, purchased, watch while you download, transfer it to you PSP & download it again & again...
Make that 2012.
You must be joking. You have a company that's silent all year long but declared that it had great and unannounced games. Whenever everyone aked about MS's 2009 lineup, they always said, we're not over we have a lot unannounced games for this year. Next comes E3. How many exclusives did MS announced for 2009? Two, that's it. It announced Forza 3 which we all knew it was coming and the online only and PC also L4D2. The Halo expansion and Splinter Cell we knew about. That's it for 2009, the top secret and unannounced games in MS's lineup. Their gaming highlight was a multiplatform title... On the other hand Sony has 2 exclusive AAA games already out this year according to your beloved Metacritic, Killzone 2 and MLB The Show. Hell, even Infamous that all MS fanboys are very eager to say that's it's not an AAA game scored 85, more than any exclusive that MS released so far. And Sony keeps the exclusives coming. Sony announced a buttload of exclusive games for PSP but everyone seems to forget that. And also announced a Rockstar exclusive, FFXIV, Trico on top of all those exclusives that keep coming. And what did MS announced for next year? Crackdown 2 and yet another Halo, that's it. Alan Wake we knew about. That's the new games and is this the great lineup that MS is bragging about? Have you realized that not even half on Sony's studios have announced their projects and still there are many more exclusives than MS's thin lineup?
I'm sure one day M$ will have they're own year.
From this fall you can rent movies and also download to own if you want on XBL.And you can start a party with your friends no matter whether you’re sharing the same sofa or are on opposite sides of the country. Your Avatars sit in a virtual cinema and you can watch the movies together and also comment using voice chat.And in the Uk we can watch live TV (premiership football matches) together.That is very cool indeed.
MS HAVE had their own years they've been 2006,2007,2008,2009 and when the megaton bomb of Halo: Reach drops they will have 2010 too. I think its generous even to suggest PS3 will do well in 2012. Simples!
Why is the Meerkat in those ads an Eastern European stereotype? Meerkats don't even live anywhere near eastern Europe...
I want to point out that MS tends to only announced games that are being released in the near future. God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5 and the likes has appeared more than twice on E3 now. Sony has a history of doing this, remember the KillZone CGI video years ago.... Catch my drift.... Going by games, I don't think 360 owners feels there is a lack of games.
Immigration. I come to Europe to get free handouts, medical care and house paid for by native Europeans. Beats living in hole in desert!! Simples!
I thought Eurpoe would like MS Sky TV, i dont think its here in NA, or well ive never heard of it until now. And MS is bringing many features to LIVE As well. EDIT: @above, very true point seems like some Fannies dont like what your said but its true! How many times have you seen Gears at E3 or Forza3 or Mass Effect 2, or pretty much anything except Alan Wake. Thats the only one i can really think of maybe splinter cell? MS has been known to show some of the same games as well as new every E3.
you know I might be the only that notices things like these but it seems an above average number of microsoft diehards are always dutch. I wonder if this has anything to do with it: http://www.microsoft.com/da... btw "the mart" says he's dutch too.....hmm "650 people from Delhi to Detroit make the site Microsoft's biggest development center in Europe. If you have an international mentality and love the feeling of powering the world, you'll fit right in." biggest in europe huh, something smells around here and it aint my breath.
Wait... so when was Alan Wake announced?
Both Too Human and Alan Wake was announced too early. MS admitted this and considered it a marketing fiasco. Since then MS haven't REALLY announced many titles that aren't released in the near future. You can nitpick, but it is cleat that it isn't a trend with MS unlike Sony.
Ahh, analysts... the usual hands- off types, that make predictions and usually wind up back peddling out of.
wasn't it analysts that said the wii would be in last place right now wasn't it analysts that said motion controls wouldn't take off? the list goes on and on in the end its just someone taking a guess i believe that as much as i believe anyone elses guesses
Pro Sony media and PS3 fanboys can only hide the way the masses really feel about what MSFT did at E3 for so long.
Disagreeing won't help, the people praising PS3's primitive controller MSFT said for games that require a waggle stick they would be working on one that works with Natal. Just admit Sony got beat. Sony's best showing which was their motion stick is no more important than a peripheral for Natal. lol
but why this, who's really going to be buying this ?? "Harcore gamers" have completely shunned these motion controlled devices. Yes Natal isn't the same, but it still does seem very casual friendly. I honestly don't think that as much as we guys would like it to be incorporated into a more harcore game, that it will happen. This wont catch onto the casual crowd either, this could get some great games that are casual friendly, but due to it being a peripheral which will clearly come with a cost it will instantly lose it's appeal. The wii caught on because it was cheap, interesting, different and just a "cool" object to have. The cool factor will be noticed of Natal, but it wont catch on because it's going to come with an extra price tag. Casuals want their fun cheap, don't care for graphics and don't really buy peripherals. Gaming for any casual gamer I know is a very very small part of their life. So why waste money on something that will get used so little.
"but why this, who's really going to be buying this ??" I will buy it if it continues to show the promise it already has. I've always thought motion controls were rather lame but I have to admit Natal has changed that. I am thinking about using it in conjunction with a standard controller. The head tracking, motion sensing, advanced voice recognition, etc could make an excellent compliment.
MS will always be ahead when it come to online features, mainly because they were the ones who started console online to begin with. While Sony and Nintendo play catch, MS will keep adding and expanding their feature set to such an extend that the competition will likely never equal them.
I didn't they were the ones who made the Dreamcast... Wake me up when they provide dedicated servers to their games.
Microsoft is a software company no surprise to that, also considering the fact that the new xbox dashboard was build to faccilitate expansions is no surpise to see new stuff coming out. More interesting is the that next to games Microsoft has been focussing more on these expansions to build on media entertainment platform, besides a gaming machine. Streaming 1080p movies is in my eyes the biggest added future, when looking at the market for consumers who want to watch hd movies, this could be a good option next to bluy-ray. But I do find it a shame that Microsft own services like msn and hotmail/live mail have been poorly implemented on the xbox 360 platform.
Ms made online an integral part of the console, and shipped it with excellent services to boot, but they were NOT first. Dreamcast had online in 1999 and the Xbox launched 2001. I anticipate disagrees even though these are FACTS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
You know they hate facts they to delusional
well xbox-live is around because microsoft welched on their deal with Sega to support the dreamcasts online functionality. They backed out of that, let the dreamcast wither on the vine and shortly after that launched the xbox. Now WHO killed the dreamcast again?
UM dude my first online capable console was the Playstation 2. Which was out how long before the originl Xbox?
Nothing to see here...
"Microsoft, meanwhile, announced a torrent of new services for its Xbox Live platform, including instant streaming of full 1080P HD movies and TV shows, 10 new markets where Xbox LIVE will offer its TV shows and movies, social media services Facebook and Twitter and music streaming service Last.fm on the Xbox Live platform..." I use my PC for that, thank you.
As well as i use my PC to browse the internet and much more too.
A good price point does.
Wii is actually competing by itself, I mean c'mon couch gimmicks? Everyone that says Microsoft didn't win or that they were even with Sony is stuck in fanboyism denial. Microsoft has clearly won. Even if Sony came out with God of War 4, 5, 6 or Gran Turismo 6, 7, 8...their games won't save them. What good is hardware when it takes 4 years to unleash a killer app?
sony fanboys will surely give you disagrees...
Only Xbox 360 provides gamers home entertainment that's truly 21st century and pushes the boundaries of what is possible in our digital lifestyles. With the history changing announcement of Project Natal, Xbox 360 will undoubtedly be leading a technological revolution that is going to be felt for decades to come and that will have applications in not only home entertainment but in all aspects of our digital lifestyles. With Project Natal, Xbox 360 is set to becoming the true convergence device of not only this decade, but of this century. Xbox 360 has not only changed gaming forever with the announcement, but the world has changed forever. Compare this gigaton history changing announcement by industry visionary Don Mattrick to the disastrous Sony announcement which involved two glowing ice cream shaped dildo's in a pathetically embarassing and rushed attempt to counter Xbox 360's history changing announcement. Sony's announcement looked horribly last gen, out of touch, pathetic and this signifies what is wrong with the PS3. The PS3 has been outclassed by Xbox 360 in every way, and it truly shows at how the PS3 is being left behind while it pathetically tries to copy the Wii without any of the originality or brilliance that Xbox 360 has shown with Project Natal. PS3 glowing ice cream dildo's are a disaster, Project Natal is 21st century digital lifestyle future. I know which one the history books will be Jumping In on.
HAHAH GIGA Lolz !!!!!
Well BAM Zhuk, I have to disagree with ya on that one. @ Kill Crow, you do know that was only a prototype and not the actual design of the controllers right ? And like the head honcho over at EA studios already confirmed. Sony Motion is a lot more practical and fail proof. Whil Natal is just a pipedream. Sony did a live demo of something that actually works, while microsoft had pre taped and doctored footage to fool the crowd. And guess what happend when they tried something live on stage ? WELL BAM !!! The saddest part is, I still don't know what the bottom of an avatar shoe looks like. Sony will continue to lead the industry with its innovations and smart choices. And games like Uncharted, GOWIII, Heavy Raind and R* PS3 exclusive: Agent will be prime examples of this.
HA HA HO HO HE HE... & i thought my jokes were bad.
it is still just a project to be released sometime in 2011. Project Nadal won't see the light of day in 2010, because it is designed for casual gamers and they are trying to find ways to change that, but have failed thus far. However, Sony's project has come far enough to show how it can effect hardcore gamers, which in the end, will tighten the race. If Microsoft wants to be more like Wii for casual gamers, I am all for it. I, as well as many others will stick with a proven leader in world of electronics since 1946. A proven leader in the video gaming industry since the inception of the original playstation. More 1st party developers, all the support of the movie studios, dominance in electronics til this day, Sony is a Global leader, not the follower of some with stolen ideas and unoriginal makeshifts. DVD-9 will be severely tested from now until 2015, a stretched out date, Microsoft stated how it would continue to compete against the Playstation 3 is way beyond believe. Games are continuing to get larger and consumers are becoming more comfortable with blu-ray and its capacity. What will the current owners of an xbox do if Microsoft upgrades it current console like it did before with hdmi 1.1, leaving many of its owners in the cold? It will be interesting indeed for the future of gaming because more games (exclusives) will be coming out for the playstation 3 and that is something the cannot be denied!
Ohkay...who let this guy back on the forums? Yeah...Natal is the best thing ever! The Eye can already do this stuff though. : )
"With Project Natal, Xbox 360 is set to becoming the true convergence device of not only this decade, but of this century. Xbox 360 has not only changed gaming forever with the announcement, but the world has changed forever." Convergence? I never doubted your intelligence until today, Zhuk. If anything, this is a *divergence* device, unlike Sony's "glowing ice cream dildo" which is a *convergence* device. Microsoft is segregating casuals from hardcore gamers with their retarded attempt at pursuing Wii's audience. On the other hand, Sony is uniting them as you can play classic games *immediately* with their "dildo". Microsoft will be seen in history books as the company that kept cheapening the industries they visited and turning them into trash. Microsoft is like a virus, they see a new industry as fertile territory, they spread, and they kill that industry. Repeat the cycle for as long as Microsoft exists.
This guy tries way too hard to sound intelligent and makes way too many grammatical errors and incomprehensible statements. You seriously need to learn how to use a hyphen if you are going to attempt to blow our minds out of the water with your graceful, inspirational bash downs. Examples of glowing, ice cream-shaped; history-changing.
It's always been ahead.
what was that??? Are you paid to write this stuff, seriously???? XD
I got two words for your old crapbox of hardware that is outdated : Blu Ray!