June 3, 2009 - We've come across a few more tidbits about Project Natal and Milo. If you're wondering if it's real, you can read IGN's hands-on impressions of Natal, which we posted on Monday night. But here's some other goodies.
It real playstation fans so now can yall stop saying it fake. lol i bet that ps3 fanboy site is feeling stupid calling Milo fake.
Wouldn't you think this isnt possible at first? Its a natural reaction . Still amazed that ms came up with this .
Uh, it was someone in the gaming media who reported the Microsoft demo was faked...
...with 3D games/glasses, that would be literally amazing. EDIT: @ disagree's; wat's wrong with 3D and Natal? Microsoft have just invented something inovative for the gaming industry!
Natal isn't an invention. It's existing technology that's been applied to work with the X360 and video games just like the Sony motion controller
I laugh when gamers on this site SAY that they want something fresh and different...they say, "why does everything have to be shooter this / FPS that!!"...lol...but when something fresh and different comes along, they put their guard up...this is definitely the highlight of the MS conference, and I look forward to seeing it progress...
I knew someone would say that, and hence, I mentioned "...for the gaming industry"
I don't think it's fake... Just not all that impressive myself. Seaman on the Dreamcast was similar in concept and as soon as you asked something outside of "Simple commands" it didn't know what to do. Try asking milo what he thinks about existentialism or economics or anything and he'll probably seize up and change the subject. The idea and concept is cool but the AI is scripted. The only real reason I am skeptical is because they showed a video and not a live demo... I am sure it's real and behind closed doors with an NDA and other things it's probably quite impressive but it's not new. Not really something I would play on any system and it is gimmicky. The idea of 3d with head tracking is cool and the video they showed with the "Potential" behind Natal was cool too but truthfully so was the video they put out years ago for "Surface" and we all know what happened there... Nothing. Look guys disagree all you want. I am a sony fanboy but their(sony's) motion control to me is just as gimmicky and I wont be buying those rods unless they turn out to have really good games... However I'll probably just be thinking "This feels like a wii"... This whole push to become the next wii is just lame imo and i can't remember who said it earlier but it was somehting along the lines of "Wasn't the 360 supposed to be the hardcore gamers platform" all the companies are selling out. it's old and milo looks like something I would never play. it's an uber tomogachi.
"I don't think it's fake... Just not all that impressive myself." It's a cute little strawman to try to setup and knock down that there are 'fans of another console trying to deny the awesomeness' by people trying to hype this as anything other than just another motion control tech demo in a sea of similar tech demos that have been shown many times before. No release date. No games announced. No games playable on the show floor. Nothing but vaporware. The fact that Microsoft had virtually nothing else to hype from their conference other than a motion control tech demo is the only reason anyone is bothering to talk about this stuff. Edit: And, sorry, it wasn't fans of another console claiming anything. It was a game journalist who saw someone supposedly faking the Milo demo.
He also said Halo is coming to PS3 ;)
Capcom on G4's E3 live coverage just announced that Lost Planet 2 is launching on 360 this year. List for PS3 was not mentioned almost like Capcom just decided to put this on ps3 two days ago
but this is just mind blowing. i love advanced AI and i'm so glad seeing it in fruition in gaming. i always dreamed of cars having AI like this and i can't believe we're so close to having AI this intelligent already. i still think sony's motion controller is better and true 1:1 movement tracking, but natal will get even better and this AI is already blowing my mind away.
In my opinion Natal shows more potential than anything else shown at E3. It literally blew me away.
I have no doubt that it works, My doubt is that anyone will want to play air games. A person playing two demos in 5 to 6 minutes, demos that don't look that fun to begin with, does not impress me. To me, all I could see from the demos was full body control, which I think is just a small improvement. They have not showed nor have I read or heard any talk of 3 dimensional control with Natal. So all in all it is an improvement on the Eye Toy, which we saw how well Eye Toys air games went over with the public. Sony's approach is a much better idea, you have true one to one 3 dimensional control that is more tactile and realistic, and from the looks of there impressive demonstration, is extremely accurate.
They also say......its a just a gimmick for casual gamers.
lol wii&ps3 fanboys still having a hard time believing this is real.
yeah... a pedophile dedicated game, I can't believe it.
I believe it will be real in like 2 or 3 years. I also believe this will not be used for real games but instead casual stuff. I have said it before so excuse me but how am I gonna put a couple of hours in a game if I have to be on my feet? I actually have a job and would rather not spend my relax time hoping around in my living room. Some people realize that this will not change hardcore gaming because no one wants to sink 10 hrs into a game that requires them to be on their feet for most of that time. I think the interface for the 360 will be cool but this will not replace controlers or change the way people play online FPS and a slew of other hardcore games.
first its obviose this is a tech demo. its extremely cool and honestly a bit hard to believe. But can you imagine if they implemented this in a game like Oblivion or Mass effect!! Like you just talking to the characters and not picking predifined sentences!! i know that would be insane to do but it would be amazing.
Is the future. I think this is going to be sooner then two years and also you PS3 fanboys are jumping for joy for the PS3 glow dildo. Hahahahahahahahah
IGN knows something we don't but any way i want a DBZ-Bleach-Naruto game when this tech release.
Yep saying it was fake when it was said to be real during the conference was desperate. Dude said it would be running on the floor and I'm sure everybody will ne repoting on it in the coming days I could hear the cheers during the G4 coverage.
I have seen reactions like that, usually at comedy shows when someone say a bad joke then comes the hired laughing man, just like this, someone had to say "it's fake"
Nope just thunderous cheers of excitement. Keep telling yourself that if it comforting for you.
uh? I'm just confirming what you are saying, there was a word that it was fake, don't be such a fanboy.
Dude that is all he is. Really duh you have been all about Natal since it dropped because that is the best MS brought and it is farther off than you think. You guys that think natal will change gaming forever are being fooled. Go home and get out your 360 controler. Now stand in front of your TV and play your favorite game for one hour without sitting down. BS this is the future. The system interface was nice but you guys are crazy to think hardcore gamers want to have to move more than they already do to get a kill in a FPS. I have sunk over 200 hrs this year playing games. I would not spend that kind of time flailing my arms or hopping around. Natal is for the casuals and no amount of you screaming different will change that
No one cares how PS3 fanboys feel about it so why spam up every article about it? There isn't any PS3 only news on this site? go somewhere please. Isn't there some E3 news on PSN you can watch?
Wait I have no where near the ignores you have cause the only one spamming is you fool. You are a kid and I recognize your style. You wont argue with my point cause I'm right. Just dismiss it because mentally you can not hang with me son.
No, UnwanteDreamz, the reason you don't have so many ignores is because you are a Sony fan in a Sony fanboy dominated site. If you say good things about the 360, or anything negative about the PS3 you tend to get lots of disagrees and ignores. So your statement proves nothing. If this site was dominated by 360 fanboys, you would probably be the one with few bubbles and lots of ignores.
Man i hope Bioshock 3 use Natal
You want to spend 10hrs on your feet? You guys must be children.....motion controls are not for hardcore games.
in 2015 hardcore gamers will be people that like to move. And people that dont move will be going back to the 70ies, where their only entertainment was pot and pizza.
i really dont want games using full motion control. i mean how would you play bioshock without a controller. how would you shoot or even move. the bottom line is that you will need a controller to play certain games. but thats just me. im not a fan of using motion controls cause sometimes i just want to sit on a couch and play my games.
You must be a fat sunovab!tch if you can't stand up and play a damn game. Remember ye ol arcade scene? I remember standing for hours just playing street fighter or kof. I have no problems with standing on my own two feet, its why god gave me legs.
@Sonyslave3 Who said it was fake? The tech is real, however i'm just waiting to see it used in a proper game first
Sixthaxis.com was questioning it....until they saw Sony's answer to Natal...the Wii-mote....and then they all sold their PS3's.
Underground PS3 blogs and media plus every PS3 fanboy that has seen it.
"really duh - 2 minutes ago PM Track Ignore 6.2 - Underground PS3 blogs and media plus every PS3 fanboy that has seen it." care to provide a link?
Your comment 3.1 is not helping your point. As for the links just check out every article about Natal and I'm sure you'll find every rabid POS on this site in one of them.
"really duh - 1 minute ago PM Track Ignore 6.4 - ^^ Your comment 3.1 is not helping you point. " so what you are saying is a lie? I'm just saying that you must backup your word, unless you like to behave like a rabid fanboy
N4g let me introduce you to them most annoying and persistent xbox fanboy really duh!!!!! applause!!!! Keep thinking that milo and natal are what M$ are making it out to be and sit there and believe ol' Peter because hes not out to take your money. This lame article goes into no detail to say the least, just the same that has been posted but its supposed to sway you somehow? Lets look at what it said anyway #1: Microsoft treating it like a console launch. Pretty damn funny considering their last launch was rushed and came out to be a huge disaster. #2: Following along Milo's narrative. That right there makes this a linear adventure that is scripted, he can only react to certain things in certain ways, not really impressive. #3: IGN hands on experience was a few minutes long with a tech demo, gee dasenuff fer me and had to move an entire leg to break or reverse, again how accurate can it be if you have to move an entire leg, sounding more and more overhyped. Get over making love to your box its not going to love you back.
This child is fooled by flashy things and thinks real gamers wanna hop around in front of thier TVs for 5 plus hrs at home.
@above really, talk about being sold on loud music and flashy lights during a presentation, i bet you could sell used toilet paper to really duh, just put some loud techno on and spill the disco ball.
PS3 fanboys are now to the point where their so bitter over their console that they constantly attack and belittle everything Xbox 360 related... ... and even when people are happy about how Microsoft is doing new different things...making new technology(and even using Windows technology for Milo)...their mad because you're happy. Wonder why? That Sony Wii-mote sure was cool.
Yeop and MS had a neat eyetoy You guys either are just sold to easy or you dont understand why games have buttons. Imagine playing sf4 for even an hour when you have to move your body. That girl onstage played for less than 15 min and was winded. Whatever I'm gone but time will prove me right.
Did Eyetoy have 3D/Depth technology? No Did Eyetoy have Face recogtition? No Did Eyetoy have Voice recognition? No Could you scan your face to find "your* profile or talk to turn your console on with Eyetoy? No Did Eyetoy have anything close to projects like Microsoft/Steven Speilberg are working on with Natal? No Could Milo even be possible on eyetoy? No, not even remotely Are you trying to credit Microsoft's innovation's to Sony? Yes How's the Sony Wii-mote? ..............(no answer) Also @ UnwantedPS3: Who said anything about play Street Fighter 4 on Natal? See you don't even know what your talking about, they are making games like Milo for it. You don't play Halo on it lmao.
Face recognition has been done Operation SPy for ps2: Designed for the EyeToy camera accessory, SpyToy offers a variety of 'Surveillance Modes' that makes for a fun security system. With new 'face-recognition' technology, SpyToy allows you to create unique profiles that you, and only you, can unlock! Voice recognition isnt that far from what every other game that used voice commands, all that is done mapping and saving harmonized sinusoids, been around for a long time. And dont even start on movement tracking, everything that has been shown is long exaggerated movements that are slow to say the least.
Natal was by far the most revolutionary thing at E3 and everybody knows it. Just look at the reaction among the general gaming press or on tech sites. It is only silly PS3 fanboys trying to downplay it.
Like I said before and I could care less about the disagrees. What they promised and what they showed were two different things and if you think they will develop hardcore games for this then I say lets wait and see who is right. I think it is funny how in one day all you motion control haters/ hardcore gamers were turned into Natal motion control fanboys.
"You can never abuse Milo," according to Molyenux. There are things in place to prevent Milo from being subverted by your penis drawings and crude questions. well there goes all my fun.
I got to be honest if this "Milo" tech is real, image how game characters even RPG characters can be used with this tech to give us an amazing experience. My jaw would drop..
That's woman in Milo is very natural, I mean that's like real life, except for the fact it seems scripted. I'm not being fanboy it just does. For example what's the piece of paper doing new to the tv, and a pen. Of course they intended that to happen most likely done it a few times before. I am optimistic but doubt this game has any current generation uses, well not many how can you play COD 4 on this?
So, you're asking how one could play Cod4 using Natal, but what you are really implying is that you can't use Natal to play most games. Here's your argument: "You can't use Natal to play games like Cod4 because I don't think you can use Natal to play games like Cod 4." or "There is no evidence that you can play Cod4 using Natal; therefore, you cannot play Cod4 using Natal." Do you see why you failed? ^^^^ I can explain it further if you wish. Why not just make an unbiased comment on Natal. Something like, "Hey, I don't know much about this technology and I am unsure about it, but I really hope it succeeds. I wish good luck to Microsoft and this technology and I hope we can see it in further use in the future." We don't need your invalid criticisms. And this doesn't just apply to you. I applies to all other Sony fanboys who come here using downplayers and dysphemisms against anything on the 360 or by MS.
Until i see a live demo its all molyneux promises and we know how that mostly ends.
They mentioned this in the article. Hope some kind of "blending" is implemented so that: * There is seamless voice chat in all games * Extra stuff (like looking sideways in car racing) are natural * Menu navigation is voice based * Typing can be done as dictation This would really work for the hardcore, not gimmicky 3d-breakout stuff.
You do realise you don't need Natal for most of it. You can use the normal microphone my XP does dictation. Also what about the looking sideways in racing games, doesn't that requiring you turing your ahead AWAY from the TV and not seeing the TV completely ruining the point.
The technology is built upon Windows 7 speech system. So I know it's *out there*, but it's not right here (in my 360). Head turns can be amplified, so a slight turn of the head can do the trick (or they can track the controller, and moving the controller around allows you to look through sides). Anyways, the thing packs good amount of possibilities, and if they provide good intensives for hard core players, it will be another peripheral that I'll buy.
From the article: "First of all, this isn't something Microsoft is doing half-assed. Let's face it, Microsoft has a track record of releasing peripherals only to abandon them quickly. But MS sees Natal like a platform launch." My response: I'm fairly certain they've said this at the beginning with all of their peripherals that they then abandoned down the road.
Look the fact is that Sony give us a firm Spring 2010 release date, so no matter what fanboys say, PS3 will have the jump and we're gunna be talkin soooo much sht until Natal comes out. It doesnt matter which one is actually better, it matter which one PEOPLE thk is better. How can Natal be better in 2010 when it possibly might not be out 2010?????
i bet anything that from this project, NOTHING will come out.
lol don't say people i'm pretty sure their people who love this this tech and their people like you who will hate Natel.
If it can be worked on future games then this will be very interesting to see. Imagine if they add 3d glasses... You will have a immersive feeling towards the game.
I don't think many devs will utilize it unless it's released with every "nextbox". If they release it halfway through the 360's lifetime, I don't think enough people are going to pick it up to make big devs want to utilize it.
Well hopefully devs can . Its just very interesting if you noticed at sonys and ms and nintendo conference, it felt like this gen was ending but beginning. I do hope in the future that devs will be creative and make some interesting games with natal .
When they realease Milo, I will play the best Ps3 exclusives(The last Guardian, God of War 3...). I will take my dualshock in my hands to play the most ground-breaking games of this Gen only avaiable on the Playstation 3 System.
What are you doing on this board, though? What did you contribute to the board? Nothing. All those games that you will be enjoying have been worked on for years and years. Sony announces games 4 or 5 years before they even come out. Now, you're here bashing Microsoft for announcing something that won't be out for a couple years? Sounds really hypocritical to me. I really do hope all those games from Sony will be out within the next couple years, because from their track record, they may might not be out for a good while.
are the new BUZZ words for all the dumb Sony Fan Legionnaires. Forget that the 360 has been around providing entertainment for almost 5 years and still selling. They constantly throw out words like exclusive and Hideo like sheep. Lets not forget that they are just now getting these games and most of them are still years away. I own both systems and guess what, I honestly enjoy the games I have on the 360 no matter if they’re multiplat. I don’t understand this whole mentality of “if it’s an exclusive it’s automatically better” that’s going around this site like a virus. Because that is definitely NOT true.
HAHAHA ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE 360