FinalFantasy-XIII.net: Square Enix members has finally had an update which shows the construction of some huge Final Fantasy XIII advertisements in LA, GTA style. The posters clearly read "COMING 2010".
I wish it was sooner.... Tomorrow Tomorrow would have been awesome....
Yeah, go blame MS... edit: For the time the game comes out its graphics are gonna be pretty dated. lol
lol @ blaming Sony for the GTAIV delay. Microsoft said it was the PS3's fault, Rockstar said it was compression issues (thanks DVD). Not to mention they were still developing the multiplayer well into 2008, months past the whole "it could be released on 360 now" date that Microsoft was crapping all over the place. Anyways, if the Japanese version has English subtitles, I'm gonna import it, assuming it's region free like nearly every other PS3 game. Not gonna wait for them to do whatever they're gonna do on the 360 if I don't have to.
I just want white knight chronicles :/
Rockstar said it was the PS3 that caused the delay and after getting so much heat from rabid fanboys they made up a number of reasons afterwards like Multi player etc. Wasn't the PS3 exclusive Japanese version of FF13 delayed? So close to E3 you can smell the nervousness and see it. "It's really no surprise to anybody that the PS3 was definitely a contributing factor to that," Barerra told MTV. "Now, we're neck and neck. That's not an issue anymore. But back then that was something we were taking into account." It was widely known that RS was very fearful about finally coming out and saying this. It was also know that they were so scared they kept coming out saying how the PS3 version is coming along and on par with the 360 version when it was not in the end. http://www.shacknews.com/on... http://kotaku.com/348603/ro... http://vgchartz.com/forum/t... I love how PS3 fans always try to create these fictional realities on this site.
@1.3 Please post a link to that so-called "interview" you mention. I'd be willing to bet that the words "nightmare", "retarded", and "massively weaker" are nowhere to be found. Who's lying? I really hope you're not trying to pass off your personal opinions as having been said by RS, because that is what your post implies. EDIT: If the 360 hardware is so inferior, as is your opinion, then the 360 version should have ended up being inferior to the PS3 version, despite Rockstar's best efforts. But, as we know, that did not turn out to be the case.
360 is to blame for GTA's delay and once again to blame for FF13.
Like you were before GDC 09 ?... The only who is nervous & pathetic here is you.
Corridor games using copy and pasted development techniques look good on PS3 using the right engines. But most techniques and engines show PS3's true abilities that is why you see games looking pretty good like Killzone 2 but ugly as sin games like Infamous. I thought everybody already knew this was coming in 2010 in the west? The only thing I did not expect was the fact the PS3 version for Japan was delayed or should I say the original game period! was delayed.
The PS3 version was inferior your crap/comment is null. Not "BELIEVABLE" to you? Rockstar first said the PS3 was causing the delay and later stressed they were going to match the 360 version at some point, finally claiming they did later on. When the game released it was sub HD on PS3 with frame rate issues. The PS3 version needed a patch just after release because the game was killing PS3 literally. Don't come at me like a rabid animal dude I only post what I see and read. I'm sure the PS3 is effecting the release window for Final Fantasy 13 too.
lol no 1 should waste time talking to i did not murder him
Well according to IGN, GTA4 was better on the PS3 so your comments are worthless... inFamous is ugly ?... Funny cause it looks better than GTA4, Fable 2, Too Human & Ninja Gaiden, not to mention the great scores it had.
I did not murder him is correct. Rockstar delayed the game because they were having troubles with the PS3 version, getting it online and such. Also the development for the game was going slower than the 360 version. Of course this is N4G after all, so go on and disagree.
and was like "Nooo!" theen i reread that it said "US" release and calmed down.
1.13 xwabbit nailed it. Internet rule #14: Do not argue with trolls - it means that they win.
Perhaps you should be talking to #1.1 I wonder if you guys disagreed with him? ;) Selective reading in your first comment is funny. You're quoting the response to the backlash.
"lol no 1 should waste time talking to i did not murder him " for what? because he made a decent point? That's like sticking your fingers in your ears and going "LALALALLALALLA" whenever someone comes out and says something worth thinking about. But I suppose your one of the fanboys that like to get in a circle and jerk each other off all day.
Get over it guys FF13 is coming to 360 and no amount of whining crying and hating will change anything. Still freaking excited for the game.360 version for me!
I could see how the PS3 would be delaying a game if it was multiplat like GTAIV was. Nobody ever said it was easier to develop for in the first place. There is no problem when it comes to matching or even surpassing any 360 version, it'll just take a little longer until developers understand and use the PS3's infrastructure more and more often. Ignore the trolls guys, they grasp and cling on to whatever they can find that supposedly makes Sony look bad. By the way, I thought Murder said he never trolled in the PS3 stories...
Honestly, these replies are rediculous. "Blame Microsoft"? Are you serious? I'm confident all the disagrees and bias comments are from fanboys still mad about FF13 going multi. If you can sit there and completely ignore facts, theres something wrong. So wrong, in fact, that you guys have created an alternate reality within your minds. That's messed up. Yeah, blame Microsoft for GTA's delay even though Rockstar have been quoted saying the exact opposite. You can't blame 360 for issues that are on the PS3 and vice versa! --- No matter how you want to spin it. As for people upset about Microsoft securing another game for their future lineup, get over it. The PS3 has a great lineup this year. Why should FF13 come out when we have Uncharted 2, Infamous, and KZ2 to play?
Who was to blame for the GTAIV delay.. It was Rockstar... Come on.. Dont be retarted people!
i don't know why but the more i look into FF13 the more i try and get excied about it the more i honestly care less about it honestly i just don't seem to care about waiting for FF13 anymore i mean im still getting it but its no longer a game im excited about :| anyways just wait last second square enix will find some reason to delay it
anyone want to help me build a time machine and go into the future and come back with a few copies of ff13 we will steal >:) then we can sell them in the underground market for $100,000 a copy. also some copies of FF 13 versus cant forget those
happy to see Gaming business expanding.. but it wont sell like GTA (in US) SE must Ad FFXIII in europe and Asia.. and make a Western game for US market. who cares .. they are stupid anyway (look at their last fiscal year, some devs made 3 times more money with 1/10 investment..)
2010 December 31st..
And this is what "stole the show" at the 2008 E3 convention?
Yep, because multiplatform games define systems and are the reason for buying them.
PS3 fanboys seem to have a much bigger deal out of it than 360 fanboys though...
If you understood WHY, though, you would clearly understand.
Probably has something to do with PlayStation fanboys anticipating the game a lot more than the 360 fanboys.
really? from what I've seen of LBP, R2, KZ2...It's more like ps3 fans like to argue about upcoming releases be it multiplat or exclusive then actually go out and buy them.
Cool. I wonder if we'll get DQIX first? DQ seems to take longer to come to the West but will be out earlier in Japan. EDIT: I want some info on KH 358/2 Days, DQVI, DQIX, DQ Wars( and the other 5 IS/SE games) and Blood of Bahamut and hopefully some new stuff too. EDIT": Dear god disagrees because I'm actually looking forward to some games, you're pathetic.
Ouch. What a downer for the fans.
...Absolute bullsh*t. I was looking forward to this game but to force gamers to wait this long? Are you kidding me?! I hope the Japanese version had subtitles as well because I'm importing too.
Why stress? It'll give you time to finish inFamous... and Ghostbusters... don't forget White Knight, Demon's Souls, Brutal Legend, Arkham Asylum, Modern Warfare 2, Fat Princess, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Darksiders, Trico....
On the other hand, people also complain when a game is worked on for a short time only, now at least we can expect a quality game right ?
I know, I know. :] But it's so annoying to wait that long. Foxgod: It better be.
I have zero interest in ghostbusters, white knight, heavy rain, dark siders, trico, or ninja gaiden (as I've already played it on my 360). So yeah this still pisses me off that we gotta wait another year for this game.
That sucks man. But honestly, this was to be expected. No date has been announced, and there was no way it was hitting US and Japan in the same year. idk, maybe I'm just better at judging dates than most (GoW3 before March? nope!)
Hmmm, japanese ps3 exclusive version end 2009, and english version in 2010. Seeing how past Final fantasy's always took about a year to be localized, it seems that the 360 version of FF13 does not cause any delay for the ps3 version whatsoever.
Not necessarily true. Square Enix have stated that unlike with previous Final Fantasy games, they've already started on the localisation.
They may have said they started on it already, but that doesnt mean that they didnt always start localizing before the jap product was completed.
Note, though, that it didn't specify a date. That and it could've BEEN delayed for the 360, anyway (tell me, how do we know that SE wasn't trying to see if they could get it to work for the 360 while delaying it on the PS3 far before E3 08?). Thing is, MS could STILL be involved in the delay, and it could very well be why so many PS3 GAMERS (notice I didn't say PS3 FANBOYS! I hate when just having a PS3 makes you a fanboy on N4G anymore) are upset over a lot of the SE news lately. [email protected]: 1. How do you know they DIDN'T buy TWEWY? That was also made when the Wii was in a VERY bad shortage, and it was being bought by only casual gamers. That game, for one, not marketed enough, and two, aimed at the hardcore crowd that wanted nothing to do with the Wii. How can you even bring that into the equation? 2. DQ9 is a entirely different scenario. 3. Why do you continue to make excuses for SE? This is WHY they think the delays are okay: because we allow them to continually get away with not only this, but to ignore the PS3 crowd, and when anyone brings it up, they automatically get called PS3 fanboys. Maybe if the same people who "call out" others or make excuses actually got on SE's asses about these things, we MIGHT actually see something HAPPEN. Not holding my fvcking BREATH for it to happen, though!
Its easier for the PS3 fanboys to blame MS than SE, even if it's the PS3 version which is taking the longest to develop. Just makes them feel better.
I fully blame SE. This is absurd. We're going to be well into the next generation by the time FFXIV hits.
Why the hell do we suddenly assume they're telling the truth when they say that when they've been accused of lying with ever other thing they've said. Wow, how come you all onyl care about FFXIII anyway. The only two game shaving issues are FFXIII and DQIX(which is Level 5's fault, and it could also be their fault that FFXIII is delayed because they wanted to keep them in separate fiscal years but DQIX was terribly buggy so they had to delay that until the next fiscal year and when they announced that they said it could delay FFXIII but let's all ignore that shall we?) SE have put out plenty of game which none of you so called fans seem to be buying. Look at the hype for Versus XIII, people are hyping it because it's made by the KH team well why didn't they buy TWEWY!? That was made by the KH team!
You can't blame the PS3 version. It will be done while the 360 version won't start till after the PS3 version.
What Omega said, is that you can only blame SE. They develop the game, they are at stake, the delay is their fault, and no one else's. Had SE planned their development cycle better, we would all have played it by the end of 2008.
1: TWEWY is on the DS and it was released in 2007, two years into it's lifespan when it was already a success. And other 2007 Hardcore SE RPGs did well. 2: DQIX has quite a bit to do with it because it was explained that DQIX's delay could mean FFXIII was delayed. So yer, they actually gave a reason for possible delays but you guys would rather accuse them of lying and ignore that. 3: I'm not making excuses, it taking 5 years is a bit of a p**stake but I'm going to whine every time they do something and I'm not going to fabricate stuff and point fingers. Wada has actually pointed out that they're taking too long and hopefully they're trying to do something about that. As much as I want FFXIII SE release over 20 titles a year so it can take as long as it wants they're still giving me a lot of quality titles. I've also been actually buying these games and supporting SE whilst they work on FFXIII instead of constantly whining and insulting them. PS3 owners were happy to see their profits fell and want them to fail but you'll never get FFXIII if that happens. Also the 2010 date for the West has been like that for ages...
I don't get your point. Ports usually take a lot shorter than making a brand new engine, then using that engine to make a brand new game, creating assets for the game, etc. Its expected for the PS3 version to take longer because they're creating the original game. The only thing in question is how long it will take for S-E to port FFXIII over to the 360. Because if it takes longer than they expected, you can be sure the NA PS3 version will be delayed to release them at the same time. But I'm sure the game will be released before the end of 2010.
Well, it's good to hear that it isn't delayed anymore... wasn't there article on N4G few days ago about FFXIII is may being delayed again?
seriously - knowing them they'll probably take another year and a half just to "localize" it. And also knowing them it'll also come out in the holiday season of 2010 because they're in such financial straights. /golf clap
Please tell me you were not expecting it this year in the US? We always lag about a year behind in the FF titles.
Yes I was. How long have we been hearing about this game? Look how long it's going to take. My interest in this game is waning and Square better do something to bring it back because they've been full of crap lately.
Ultimolu is right. SE may be full of really talented developers atm, but SE got serious issues with planning their development processes.
If they are full of talented devs at the minute(which is far from certain given the standard of their recent efforts)wouldn't they be able to get the game finished more quickly than , say, untalented ones? You can't blame MS for bringing a huge franchise to gamers on their platform OR for trying to slow their rivals console into the bargain-it just makes all kinds of sense. The only way MS can be blamed is by 360 owners IF they paid way too much and used money unwisely when it could have been put into their own games/projects. But we'll never find that out so can't we just drop the MS bashing over a, on the surface, sensible business move. Spoony, I think PS3 owners angry at SE DO have grounds for complaint. Many of those moaning about them now are prolly their biggest fans and could well have bought the PS3 expecting exclusive FF13 AND, which would seem sensible when they were still trumpeting "only on PS3" this time last year, that other SE games might have gone to PS3. If I'd mainly bought a console on my favourite devs promise of exclusives and games only to see them scrap the exclusivity and then put out games on every platform except the one they got me to buy in the first place I'd be pretty angry. TBH, while I have no idea what SE are really doing I found it hard to believe when , the other week, they inferred that FF13 would get to the west sooner after the Japanese version than usual. How are they going to do the localisation plus a whole other version on top more quickly than they used to do localisation on one console-and a console in PS2 that they were familiar with at that? What they say rarely makes much sense and you never get anything except vagueness without enough detail for us to pin them to-I don't think anyone can say that PS3 owners, and now 360 owners waiting for the game as well,should trust a thing SE say. And whatever did happen to TLR for the PS3 anyway?
@mastiffchild, the only in house game that's been bad has bene The Last Remnant and the SaGa team have always been hit or miss, hell check their previous game, Unlimited Saga. Yes, I do think there is grounds for complaints about The Last Remnant. Takai either lied or changed his mind but he said he doesn't care for the PS3 because it's overcomplicated compared to the 360. Blame Takai and Sony for that then. I could understand complaints about Star Ocean IV, it could and would be suited for a multiplatform release but Tri-Ace(note not SE) have thus far decided not to develop a version for the PS3, they may change their mind. Now complaints about FFXIII in my opinion are less justifiable especially the "I bought a PS3 just for FFXIII" because they're still getting it, nothings changed and honestly do you think anyone who bought a PS3 for FFXIII now regrets their purchase? No. The complaints about the delay being caused by it being multiplatform have no basis either, in fact the only indication for ANY delay has been the delay of DQIX. The complaints that it's being dumbed down, again a bit understandable but fundamentally lacking a basis and honestly if we cared about FFs being held back we would have wanted them on the Xbox or Gamecube last gen. I do agree there's been a lot of confusion and I think they really need to start communicating with us because we so far know very little and they've been cryptic. Even in the story last week about a Japanese delay nothing was clear, Wada(or whoever was talking) could have been joking for all we know. Also there's a difference between having a complain(ie "That's not fair how they're treating us.") and continually whining in every damn Square Enix article, also calling Wada a retard(as many have done) isn't going to make him decide to support the PS3 more. So that's my opinion in a nutshell. TLR: Yer Takai's been a bit of a d**k about it but the majority of PS3 owners don't want it anyway. SOIV: Should be multiplat, that'd benefit everyone. FFXIII: It's understandable to be annoyed about the delay(I am) but there's no point in insulting them or pointing fingers. Now is it clearer how I feel?
I'm buying this second hand for PS3. I'll be busy with other games while waiting for a used copy to come in. Hopefully by the time I'm done with all the other games, FFXIII will be $30 or less.
OMG! its all MS's FAULT! along with global warming, swine flu, and the manbearpig outrage... right?! Please, stop pointing fingers. Good games take time!! How many times did nintendo delay smash brother brawl till it came out? Or zelda games. I bet thats MS's fault too. And programing a game (on either console) isn't something you do over night.
This is Sony fanboy paradise man you can't expect much here.
Good lord. Again, where do we GET these people from, and why do they insist on completely IGNORING every single thing except what they want to hear? This game was announced in 2005! You REALLY think the game should've taken THIS DAMN LONG to be released? C'MON!
DARKPOWER has a point yeah its true some good games take a while but they never take 5 years some games that took a long time to make just ended up flopping when released its different when you talk about nintendos delays because those delays never take years and years TP was delayed years but that was because of the wii not because of the game itself
Like Killzone 2, Alan Wake, Tekken 6, Gran Turismo 5, Heavy Rain(06), 2 Days to Vegas, WarDevil, Project Offset, ect, ect. How many of those can you play right now? 1.
The posters are in Downtown LA, near the Staple Center.
That is because I owned both the PS3 and the X360. I like both Kratos and Master Chief. I am a gamer and from the SNES/Genesis days...I own or used to own a SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, Turbor graphics 16, Neo Geo, Saturn, PS1, PS2, N64, Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Xbox. I get all the systems so I can enjoy any games that I want and don't worry about exclusives, My games on my system has bigger balls than yours, and other non-sense that fanboys have created. I will get a Wii too if a New Zelda or a new Metroid are released. I like the X360 more than the PS3 but I don't really have any bias towards any side unlike 99% of the fanboys here.
You PS3 fanboys really need to be beat in the head like 20 times. Didn't we all know the Japanese version was going to be released in 2009 and the US/EU versions due out later like in 2010, all the way back to last year? Past Final Fantasies took 1-2 years to get released in the West, so how is this Microsoft fault? I have the PS360 and I will be getting the PS3 version for sure but some of you PS3 worshippers lacked common sense and released history of Final Fantasies. Please go to Wikipedia...LMFAO
Most sony fanboys only want to hear themselves talking, they post something, and they hope that someone else repeats it after them. They cant go into discussion without swearing and whining, i tried to have many discussions with ps3 fanboys, and all they do is insulting.
So...360 fanboys don't do the exact same thing? Don't call out one side unless you're going to call out the other, too. And check my other comments here. You will see what I think about this...or do you CARE (might destroy your chance to go after those big, bad, evil, conspiring, breeding PS3 fanboys that you despise so much)? EDIT: And yet YOUR username is "XDF"! Ironicy. Welcome to the world of projection, where you "project" the faults of one onto another and try to say that they are the only ones allowed to be tried for them.