Square Enix financial results reveal all
thats what happens when you sell exclusively to one system when you are third party.
There Wii and DS software probably made up most of their income this year, cos the 360 software has sold quite badly overall, and they haven't even released a single PS3 game (which is ridiculous considering this is the PS3's 3rd year)
How can this be ? SE them self's said that making the partnership with MS was one of the best things they had ever done
Probaly those checks are in the pockets of certain particular, *cough* Wada *cough*. That guy is killing SE. I like what they are doing in portables but clearly is not enough to recoup all the loses coming from flopped HD games.
I feel bad for the employees feeling the heat. It's not their fault the the Person who runs the company has no business sense what so ever..... Wada. Has he opened his eyes yet. He could at least port over some of their crappy games and make some extra cash. But not a single game on the PS3 is just stupid and sad at the same time.
what happened square? I thought you and microsoft were tight...o o im sorry, i dont give a sh!t, sell outs.
Thats what you deserve when you: 1. Have a retard like Wada running things 2. Make like 500 remakes on portable devices (and not NEW games) 3. Make games exclusively for the 360, and not release a single game for the PS3 after 2 and a half years 4. Westernize.....why Westernize your games? the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts games have sold like crazy in the US. Change is unnecessary in this case
Thanks Wada !!!
all i wanna say is that they don't really care about us all i wanna say is that they don't really care about us beat us, hate us, you can never break us will us, thrill us, you can never kill us chew us, sue us, everybody do us kick us, hike us, don't you black or white us From an ex fan SE
This is what happens when you make bad business decisions.
I can definitely say that Wada's plan to have SE westernize through the 360 is a big success. Oh wait...
lol your so right
$hit didnt sell? What else is new?
that would have sky rocketed their sales for sure. Seeing as they're owned by MS and all - OH SNAP!
*whistles* Square better pray that FFXIII and FF Versus XIII saves them.
You reap what you sow. How's that "we don't want the PS3 to be the overwhelming loser, but we don't want them to be the overwhelming winner either" arrogant and completely contradictory statement working out for you now? This is what happens when you think you're above the people that made you who you are, and you cater to people who've emphatically and vocally stated that they are uninterested in your particular genre of games. Xbox fans have never made it a secret that they are NOT into JRPG's. What focus groups did SE use to come to the determination that they were? When the userbase says they are uninterested, and the sales reflect their interest (meaning little to none), then pick up your ball and go to a place you'll be welcomed. The PS3 userbase wants JRPG's, and they want them bad. SUPPORT THE PS3 AND YOU'LL MAKE MONEY!!! It's pretty obvious at this point that they are just wasting time and money on the 360. Be a fanboy of the 360 all you want, the numbers don't lie. And the numbers state that JRPG's just end up dying on the 360. Prove me wrong. And to the disagrees I'm sure to get, you can try to disagree with fact all you want, but that's not going to make it go away or change anything.
@ Murker How Ironic that the Iconic developer is going down the drain one too many switches and backstabs. Serves them right. I'll pick up FF13 if its really good but if its dated compared to Dragon age, White Knight and Mass Effect 2 than forget about it.
now there are not so many of them.
I had the utmost respect for Sqeenix until a year or so ago.. now I really could care less if the entire company capsizes (which would never happen, unfortunately). Then Nomura would go on to make his own company and create some games that are of some actual quality, that get released in less than 5-6-7 years. (And Legend of Dragoon.. hells to the yes.) :)
Totally agree, you don't leave the people you know will buy your games. Thats just stupid! And, I LOVE your avatar Kain! The Legend of Dragoon!
u are right , they abandoned us and treat like nothing :(. hope they wake up now,square ceo wada will bring doom upon the company. I HATE HIM
Not feeling too sorry that Square took a hit for trying to manipulate their fanbase. Sadder thing is it probably wont stop them from even supporting both the PS3 and 360 equally.
If this doesn't wake them up, I don't think anything will. They've ignored EVERYTHING (like bad press and the huge sales of FF7ACC in Japan) in favor of supporting only the 360 and handhelds. Not sure why they still ignore everything to do so (not sure how they can justify that following THIS).
ms is paying for wada's new estate. that's how he can ignore anything Sony related. Either that or his wife cheated on him with someone from Sony. :D
I could understand if it was a shooter third party exclusive, those sell well. But to make a console exclusive rpg game you have to make sure there is a base. Everyone who buys Squeenix games has a ps3. They are just waiting. I dont think Squeenix understands that though. BTW, I got a feeling that WKC is gonna sell better then expected because everyone who owns a ps3 is waiting for that must have jrpg.
This may be the case, or at least better than expected. I know a few people(me included) that have imported the Asian Demon Souls(great game, almost nads kicking hard, but very enjoyable) to address the specific lack of jrpgs on the ps3. But then again its not that there are NOT jrpgs available, they are just old or "ports" of old games. As much of a fan of the jrpg lineup I am, and how much value the 360 + addon ports are. If a company is gonna make me wait a year because of an exclusive contract, they they are going to wait even longer for my money as I might as well buy it once it hits the bargain bin at my local target or used at gamestop.
hmmmm i wonder why? lol
did they even release a PS3 game???
They've published some PS3 titles for other people in specific regions but they haven't put one of their games on the platform yet. Which I think they should by now... @V: You actually want The Last Remnant!? I mean I think it's a good game but I thought everyone who actually wanted it had got it already. SOIV though should really go to the PS3, but it's ultimately up to Tri-Ace.
Besides FFXIII of course. I want my Last Remnant or Star Ocean 4. EDIT: I like the battle system. Like most gamers, I personally thought Star Ocean story SUCKED. I mean SUCK Hard. But the battle system kept me in it. I like what I saw from Last Remnant. It looked fun. EDIT: "V"? lol
What happened with that,a few months ago that got seriously hyped and now I haven't seen anything about it for ages. edit lol,it's out already.
But then I'd like to see a "total package" sci-fi RPG. An open universe title with both space and ground combat.
Actually they have, its a td game, ported from cellphone for psn and xbl, that is it though.
I feel like there's something between them and Sony, and they stubbornly refuse to release a single game on the PS3 for some particular reason, only to hurt themselves just as much as they hurt Sony.
Hopefully this gives them a wake up call.
That will only happen when they finally put out a PS3 title and it does far better than a 360 game. The FFXIII demo should have been enough, but I doubt it knocked enough sense into them.
i hope they will never become the great company they once was they have failed
You know M$ slapped them with money bags so it makes up for their losses :o
That man is an idiot. It will only get worse for SE. Before you know it they will be right back when Sony saved their ass. This should teach SE never to mess with thier loyal fanbase ever again. Gamers are more important.
Lol. Is Wada's Salary cut going to cover that? I'm not laughing at Square Enix, I am laughing at the man who is steering them into the doghouse. My only fear is they lose enough money to be bought out and then MS snatches them up, but I guess that would mean I could just forget they exist. It's win win for me and all gamers, imo. Because they either get back with the winning team and forget the flops of the past, rectify the situation through PS3 support... or...?
Well Iwata and Square Enix are hard at work trying to get some rep for Dragon Quest. I think it's pretty obvious that they care more about Dragon Quest than Final Fantasy. Especially considering they'd rather delay FFXIII so that DQIX can be fixed up than rush DQIX out and give us FFXIII earlier. Hey as long as they stay afloat and deliver the games I'm fine but I really think they should throw you PS3 guys a bone. SO4 wouldn't be that big a deal...
This year should be a tad better for SE. They got several titles in the pipeline. First of all, DQIX on the DS (will sell a lot), after that KH:358/9 on the DS (got 4 9 from Famitsu, will sell very well too), Dissidia:FF and (dunno about this) KH:BbyS both on the psp. Only title not on portables is FFXIII and then we are not sure if it will make the winter release date in Japan. This would be a better year for SE if they can release FFXIII on Japan, if they miss that deadline I doubt portables games will be enough (considering Eidos acquisition)
Well yer, the new KH is out this month in Japan and then DQIX towards the end of the summer with Dissidia being released in the West and possibly Birth by Sleep. But they also have some other games(That won't sell as well) like the SaGa 2 remake, Dragon Quest VI remake, Blood of Bahamut(hopefully), Crystal Bearers for the Wii(hopefully). Don't forget their download titles either like Final Fantasy IV the After's western release. I wonder when that new action game they've been teasing will be out as well? I think they may be oversaturating the wrong places though, they could do with a few less portable titles(even though I love them) and more PS3 titles. @V: DQ? It's actually been selling quite well on the DS. The remakes have done moderately well but I know for a fact that DQM: Joker sold 1.5 million. The Swords game didn't do as well methinks. It's not being released in the West yet, where they're going to try and build it up. It'll sell well in Japan but they want to make as big as FF. That's why Intelligent Systems is making DQ Wars for the DSi because if they release it when there's not many other games and online it'll be more available to people who don't know about it. DQIX has also been hyped quite a bit in Japan. Did you see the April Fools when someone said it was being released? The spin offs were two years ago now but the remakes were last year. EDIT 2: The DQ remakes have also surpassed a million but it's games like that TWEWY(who no one can deny the quality of) that have underperformed. Only sold 500,000.
They don't even seem to be talking about it. And didn't it see two side-games on both the Wii and DS? A year ago?
how about releasing some ps3 games. stupid stupid square..... grml...
instead of their loyal fanbase. Thats why i said countless times that Wada is an idiot because its us the loyal fanbase that gives them money. They exists because of us gamers and not because of MS. Now they keep on delaying FF13 because i am sure that FF13 is not up to snuf. If FF13 ends up not blowing anyone away. It will most likely sound the end of SE.Stupid stupid man.
But since they announced FFXIII will be multi-plat I've no doubt it'll be nobbled to run on the 360 hardware. (lowest common denominator) I won't be rushing out to buy it.
suck this squareenix for make crap games for m$...
Haha you're pissed!
Who's angry about not being able to play crappy games. Some of them are even available for PC and truth be told they're not worth pirating.
Now stop being [email protected] and release Last Remnant on the PS3 already. If not, then like Osirus always says "SVCK my UNIT!". I'm tired of this insurbodination.
Do you really think that'll help though, you all said you don't want it. If anything they should get Tri-Ace to port Star Ocean IV. I think it's the only one that could get good sales. @V: Well apologies for the generalisation but the general consensus was "don't want it" from the PS3 crowd.
I don't represent the majority. I represent me. I want the game. I could get it for the PC but personally, I love playing J-RPG games on a console. I've been used to that for a loooong time. You're right about Tri-Ace porting the game. I think it would increase sales in Japan. I just want it. I played it a month ago and I like what I played. EDIT: it's cool. I do think Square is going to make the game vaporware on the PS3, which is sad to be honest. the game didn't run great on the 360 and the reason (or lie...at least to me) they didn't release it yet on the PS3 was because of the U3 engine.
xbots do not buy games.. they pirate games.. and majority of xbots are pimple-faced tweeners. since they can't afford to buy games, they rely on their moms to buy them ONE game a year - on their birthdays usually. in 2007 it was gaylo 3. in 2008 it was gears of lag. this fact explains a lot, doesn't it?
Sounds more like an opinion rather than a fact a bad opinion at that. Worst troll I've seen today. You're bad at it.
And let Micro$uck In Oh Hang on
whats with the tags lol
The only game that they've really put on the wrong platform so far has been Star Ocean IV. It'd get nearly double the sales on the PS3. They should get Tri-Ace to port it... Infinite Undiscovery was out of their control and I doubt Project Sylpheed and The Last Remnant would have fared much better, perhaps but it's doubtful. I think this year will be better though with KH 358/2 Days, DQIX and the Eidos releases.
But releasing FFXIII and DQIX will shoot their income up again.
Yup, the reason they've keeping them in different fiscal years is so they can avoid it dropping off like it has now. They have DQIX one year, get lots of money then release FFXIII the next and get more. EDIT: I think they're keeping them in different fiscal years anyway.:S
Good..i wish the worst for them
I miss the vagrant story, chrono cross, ff7, and ff8 days of square....the days when square was a power house developer...now square is the laughing stock of the industry...hopefully ff13 will get them back on the right track.
I think the 360 has shown that if you make A GOOD GAME people will buy it. Square games haven't been that good this gen.
they will buy it too just hype it up...same goes for bad games