As if the overpriced price tag of 800 Microsoft Points isn't enough, the Halo Wars' Strategic Options DLC is only 2 MB. Therefore, you may be paying for content already in the game.
Microsoft taking a page out of Capcom's book?
enjoy the ride, I hope they use lube.
Casey you rock dude, one of my favorite posters.
Unlock Capcom this probably isn't a unlock code, it most probably uses the assets already on the disc and adds new ones. Then again the compression techniques used in the game could be good enough.
Ryback....I dont understand that comment at all...what does this DLC have to do with full games, as you put it? Surely, you are referring to GTA 4? I dont see why all the hate for optional content. No one forces anyone to purchase it. It extends the value of your games. Thats a bad thing? And like I commented below, if this indeed is all you get for $10, its a rip. Simple and plain.
I don't know why everyone complains about small data size of the DLC. It is NOT as if the larger size means the developer put more effort into it. Anyone with a little programming skills know that 1-2 MB of data is a lot of code if you are re-using assets. If people keep complaining about this, perhaps the developer should just pad the size with a bunch of zeros i.e. unused code just to make the size larger and satisfy the consumer or how about just unused assets? The DLC is optional and you are free to take advantage of it or not. Vote with your money not with your useless and baseless comments!
(click hear to unlock rest of comment- only $10).......
click "hear" = FAIL
Great MS, thanks a lot seriously. But the difference between this a RE5 was your getting More stuff then RE5, But what the heck still this is stupid. But then again 2MB can hold a good amount of stuff, it very possible that the new gamemodes can take up a few MB, unlike the RE took up a couple 100 KB.
RE5 "DLC" was 1.5MB. SF4 is the "DLC" of a a few hundred Kb.
no im pretty sure the DLC for RE5 on the PS3 was 300 some KB and a little more for the 360.
but I'm not buying an unlock code
Wasn't there a title update to prepare for the DLC? That could have had it made it easier to put new modes in the game. They are just new modes, you just got to program in the rules, it's not like they are adding in new maps which take up more space.
ding ding ding. We have a winner. Bubbles for being one of the only people on this site with half a brain.
It's also been known for awhile that 107 or 108 KB is an unlock.
omg.. this is just ridiculous, its not on the disk. but its still a ripoff , im not paying 10$ for 2 shiity modes and 1 good one.
If only $ony used it's brains like MS, they wouldn't be losing $600 million, per quarter, on there games division.
so you don't mind getting screwed over as a gamer, as long as the already-loaded M$ makes money by extorting you? and you use a $ sign for Sony and not M$, yet M$ is the one charging for content on the disc, overpricing wi-fi, hdd, XBL etc? LOL!!!
And to think I thought your couldn't get any dumber. That comment just proved me wrong.
It's a fact that all companies are in this for the money. I'd rather see $ony charge for PSN. They could upgrade it and increase profits. But they think that their bad service is a plus to the ps3 and draws more people to buy it. Why won't they charge for it and increase it's features with the money they make?....they are stupid and out of touch. MS and Nintendo know how to make money.
thats the sad part.. these aren't sports teams here.. you are allegedly a gamer that plays products they make right? or do you just read their pdfs at night? As a sony customer, i get to play peer 2 peer games for free.
so let me get this straight... you applaud M$ for doing this? that means i can expect to be in the first article that calls Sony out for doing it (if that ever happens), applauding their efforts as a business? are you for real? sometimes i think your a PS3 fan in disguise, trying to make 360 fans look bad and stupid.. if you are, your succeeding
I know i'm getting ripped off, EVERYONE is. Look at how much cars are sold for, yet they only cost 1/10 of that price to manufacture. Same with games, most new games are $60, even though they cost around $1.00 to manufacture. I know they devs need to make up money for the developement costs, but they still rip us gamers off by charging that much. And how is MS ripping me off? give me the names of things they are ripping me off on.
What does this have to do with Sony? Get off their sack.
Here you are trying to backpeddle talking about how all companies rip their consumers off by overcharging, but the fact is you came in here like a stalking little crackhead and just used this forum as an excuse to talk bad about Sony...again Your comment about car manufacturing costs being only 1/10 of their sticker prices, well that may be true with certain models and with certains makes, but if the disparity between sales revenue and the cost of manufacturing was so great in favor of sales revenue, why is it that nearly every automobile manufacturer this decade has needed a bailout from the taxpayers. Slow sales wouldn't have impacted the industry so fast and so hard if operational costs were just a fraction of revenues. Mooks, Either STFU and get educated, or just STFU! Edit: Or mooks, there is such a thing as due dilligence and scaling back operations. With such advanced Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) systems, the amount of one company's workforce can be scaled back with IT-centric commerce and autonomous functions that can be incorporated with an ERP system. So now I tell you kid, you go do some research.
Mooks, mooks, mooks. Your level of stupidity just raised ALOT and I didn't think it was possible. So you are actually glad that you are being ripped off? Please is your mother being held hostage in a basement by Bill Gates? And if you don't spread this stupidity she will (God forbid) get killed? Couse if that is the case I can understand you, but if not...please go and hang yourself.
I suggest you research how much a car cost's to manufacture. You do realise that GM and Ford etc all have around 100k employee's to give paychecks to. Ofcourse if they arent selling cars they won't have enough profits to keep the company afloat + keep all the employee's paid. EDIT----- @ shane kim, a.k.a OmarJA, ken kutaragi, pennywise It's something that they do to make profit. I'm not saying I agree, i'm not even going to buy it, I'm just saying I understand why they do it. $ony, needs to adopt similar practices to get themselves out of the mess they are in. Loosing $600 million, every quarter, on the games division ALONE, isn't healthy for any company, especially one with angry share holder's.
Here is your check Mooks. See you next week.
First of all Im not those guys, second, that's not what you said. You said "If only $ony used it's brains like MS, they wouldn't be losing $600 million, per quarter, on there games division.". That sounds like want Sony to use the same MO as MS is using to scam their costumers. Well I don't want it.
You actually seem to be admitting that this is a con by Microsoft, yet you turn that into more Sony bashing? I'm so sorry to say this of a total stranger and I'm not proud of it, but I'm beginning to actively HATE you because of your posts.
You are saying that "$ony" should follow Microsoft's business model or else they'll lose $600 million in games division, then you complain about how much the video game business charges for games and rips everyone off?? Well I'd say that the $600 million Sony is losing is to BENEFIT the gamer, by providing FREE OF CHARGE online, and MORE AFFORDABLE hardware than if you went to go buy a high-end computer yourself, hense why they are still taking a 10% loss on each system. THAT sounds like a business that is taking the hit rather than passing it on to the consumer. Yet YOU PRAISE MICROSOFT for charging you for DLC that's already on a god damn disc!!!! You couldn't be anymore backwards!!!! You are just a retarded xbox fanboy trying to pretend you're unbiased for some sort of credibility! How many times have I seen you post about "Sony is bad at this, Sony is bad at that, killzone 2 sucked this, MGS4 sucked that" yet the scores and feedback for these games have been phenomenal and the sales for the PS3 have been anything BUT lacking! PS3 still remains the 3rd fastest selling console of all time, yet you and your retarded xbutt buddies fail to realize that and go for the total sales as if that means which console is the best! A shrinking 6 million lead and you're still fapping to Microsoft like they were Belladonna (assuming you're straight and watch straight porn)! I have a few words for you: SHUT THE F*** UP! and if you can't, GET THE F*** OUT!
Seriously, who is surprised by this?
Not in the least bit. Welcome to the future of splicing up game options and selling them separately while you still pay full price for the disc.
Namco and Capcom are EXTREMELY surprised ;)
Damn. Microcock raping ya x- b1tches haha Probably money to pay off xbox 1 failure RROD E47 $300mil worth of Rare flops Too Human 10 year development costs ....Microcock will be paying off debt forever.... hahaha
Yer, hows that over a billion in losses going for you there big guy? They're both doing terribly right now.
Not defending this kind of behaviour but this struck me while reading. How do we know others don't fill out their downloads with fake files to hide the fact that the content was already on the disc?
I'm almost certain it has happened.
Good point but I don't really care. I only go for the free DLC like the free stuff for Halo 3, L4D, Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant. Free DLC is the best.:D
Probably. Somehow it feels like a bigger betrayal when it's about first party games. Will be interesting to see that they have to say in defense. @Spoony - I haven't downloaded much DLC either but the free ones rock. I tend to spend more money on XBLA games.
not even that... how do we know they don't purposefully take out content at launch... and then release it several months later to cover up? DLC has a lot of negatives to it
this is bs... i hope no one will buy this... But we must never underestimate someone who bought a 360.
If true, terrible practice, charging for what's already on disc. Far too many companies do it, and it needs to stop. Still, you can't go by file size alone, especially if assets are being reused.
I doubt this is a unlock key but probably using disc assets which is common for almost all DLC. Then again the DLC only contains playmodes which could be a few kilobytes in size for all we know. This is the Examiner, all their writers spin headlines with little information behind it, submit it to N4G and then get paid a crap ton for it.
If its 2 mb of code that's quite alot of extra code... It may just use game assets already present on the disc so no need to redo everything for the sake of increasing the download size!
I agree with what other people are saying. I mean when you look at what the dlc offers, clearly isnt worth the price, but thats beyond the point. The content its actually providing is nothing really new, its very very likely its simply code. Theres no new assets as far as I know, everything used is already in the game. To be honest it seems like the kinda stuff that could easily be added in a patch. I mean Gears 1 added Annex in a patch and that musta been a meg if that.
They're just game modes, of course they aren't going to take up much space. 2MB sounds pretty reasonable... Anyway, what sort of unlock code takes up a whole 2,000 kilobytes? :| Please N4G, ban news from Examiner.... all of it seems to com from this Ps3 fanboy 'Shui Ta' anyway.
M$ is using a flop game to ripoff the dumb bots... Good job.
It's doing better than your PS3 flagship KZ2.
Yeah, sure d*ck! Worldwide KZ2 sales are higher and of course we all know, critically, KZ2 wipes its a$$ with Halo Wars.
Well i dont think its on disc, isnt it only game modes? Hope this doesnt turn into a he or she said debate.
If that is indeed true, that this DLC only adds some extra modes, thats BS. Especially for $10.
Why do people get so hyped for DLC anyway? I never understood that.
that's not a problem for xfanboys cuz they will just eat any kind of sh!t coming from M$'s @$$
If its only game modes and people are paying for it then the joke is on you! Really you are gonna pay $10 for f-ing game modes. Wise up people and stop letting these companies rape you. This is stuff they should be giving you to keep the game alive longer and support it as valve does their games. Look how many free updates TF2 has had. That's how a game company should act. QUIT BUYING THIS CRAP and send a message
first they rip off the Halo name....any other skin on this RTS game would have scored this game lower....and now they rip off with dlc.. lmao...
Is it just me, or is there a problem when "DLC" is the size of game save data? DLC, a blessing and a curse. Granted, they could be wrong about this one.. There is a such thing as recycling disc data..
I think it actually was on the disk already. A lot of the gaming sites mentioned all three of these modes being in the game in their reviews. Maybe it was just the review copy...but still.
charging for game modes? 10$ ? multiplayer modes? $10 extra? really? hahaha funny joke.............oh wait : ( please dont support this ppl
Yeah that seems like a very hefty price for game modes. I always fear that if I bought this sort of thing that in a months time nobody will be playing it anymore anyway
Seriously, when is the line drawn when a DLC isn't a DLC anymore? 2mb of extra content that really can be counted as an update or patch, passing it on as 'extra' premium content, lol. WTF. Where are the days when the only extra sh1t that you buy for a game was an expansion?
you guys do realize this DLC is 3 game modes and nothing that should require much size....
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