The lighting looks great. SOunds kool. I'm not satisfied as didn't see enough.
At least its ingame.
They've come a long way since the ps1 days that's for sure! But being so realistic...might it take things too far? Going around a realistic new york and killing people with a machine gun? Putting bombs in cars and blowing vehicles up...? ...hmmm
Will be a nice contrast to the Getaway set in London.
have you ever seen a terrorist that WASN'T middle eastern? not counting the unibomber or timothy mcvey lol. sorry, but terrorist = middle eastern male. this is one case in which racial profiling DOES make sense. americans don't want to blow up american, towelheads do.
I've seen a grayhaired fundamentalist christian terrorist named George. He manipulates his country through massmedial brainwashing to justify his cause - to steal other countries natural resources through war. Do you ever think "Hmmm, I wonder WHY they are attacking us?" Check out a documentary called Jesus Camp. Christians aren't any saner than muslims, it's all about interpretation. George W is an evangelist (one of the insane interpretations of the bible), almost goes without saying. Do you still feel uneasy when you're around people from the middle east? Muhammed Ali is muslim, does that make him a terrorist threat?
If your president isn't a terrorist, explain Guantanamo Bay (concentration camp). I'm sorry to say this but as long as you (yes you ,the people who voted for G.W.Bush) keep starting wars with countries for no legitamite reason (instead of using diplomacy) innocent people will have to take the blow, in both countries. Seems like you don't question your governments actions; As long as the president ends his speech with "God bless America" you're all for it. Scary indeed.
Your shady perspective on other cultures isn't helping.
Jenzo, I was with you till you said the "God Bless America" part. Every President ends there speeches with God Bless America. It's actually a historical part fo America. Whether we practice it, we are a Christian nation. Doesn't mean we're better than a Muslim nation but most people in the United States are Christians.
We're not going to get in to a religious or a idealogical debate on a gaming website but I think GaMr was being funny. He looks like a Eastern European underworldling.
To dissectionalrr comments, you may not have lived long enough to remember the IRA terrorists. The most populated Muslim nations are in the Middle East but in Indonesia. They don't look like Middleastern men. More Fox news for everyone...
As has been said: this is a gaming news site, not a political soapbox.
Two points:
Your gamer pic of a grossly overweight female shows YOU to be prejudiced yourself. Mocking another person's condition with a gamer pic and then having the balls to call accuse another of 'prejudice' is the high-point of hypocrisy.
Obviously you know very little about Christianity, Evangelical or otherwise, and almost nothing about Islam.
Keep the replies and topics on point please.
Now... GTA IV --- I can't wait! I am looking forward to a deep storyline. I do wish that the setting would have been in Chicago however. It's a great city to explore.
skin kittens in a minigame, make a furcoat, which can be sold on Ebay to the guy whose kidneys you just removed and sold on Ebay, who is actually the new born, who you are the father of (which you sold on Ebay), through a coffee-esque mini game, where you knocked up the $10 whore, by missing too many buttons and the condom broke, only to have said kitten-fur coat, kidney less, Ebay sold, condom-leak son hunt you down for 10 years of missed child support. Man these things have so much to do in them now.
I know i will probably be bashed till I hit the 18th level of hell by everybody..but really, from the depth of my heart..I think this trailer sucked.. It didn't excite me alot about this game at all. (i have played the previous GTAs). I didn't see alot of action in that trailer, the graphics didn't "wow me", although very nice architectures. What are everyone's thought on this...
Sorry for the negative comment already, but that's how i felt after seeing it..its weird..i was so excited during the last minute countdown too..(u probalby see me repost this in several thread since u guys made so many of these posts)
Whats funny is, some people say Halo 3 will be the most overhyped game ever, but I see GTA IV being more so. The game looks fine, but nothing mind blowing...but then again, GTV 3 wasn't mind blowing either. Whether we all agree or not, "next gen" is based on graphics, otherwise it would just be a Xbox/PS2 game. I'm just not impressed graphically...yet (mind you, Rockstar still has plenty of time to work on it)
I must admit, I wasn't wowed liked I thought I would be, but those graphics do look pretty damn stunng, when you consider what the size of the playing field should be... I guess we will have to wait for ingame shots
GTA has always been know for less that stellar visuals,as well as half assed controls. Not sure where you would get the idea it was considered pertty. Fun as hell?yes.Pretty?hell No
Some of the screens, like the one of the Empire State, look last-gen but I suppose you'll have to lose some textures in some areas in order to make up for areas where you'll actually notice it (and not at the top of a sky scrapper).
haha wow could they make it any more obvious it's liberty city again? Geesh if nobody caught the trains, the statue of liberty, the time square, the sign that says Liberty Tree, the boat that says "Platypus Liberty City" on the back and the two tunnels where it reads above " IBER Y FER Y TERMINAL" cool tho big game big city works for me...I thought the trailer was cool tho
wow some harsh critics. Yeah, I have seen better graphics on games, but these look damn good, considering you have to mimic an entire city, one the size of new york. Time square looked pretty sweet, but as someone said, gta has never been about having the best graphics, its about, I can do whatever the hell I want and have a blast doing it gameplay, and just looking at the scenery while im plowing a hooker or commmiting drive bys, its just gets the mind racing on what is going to be possible. I just wanna hear some examples of the commentary of the people I walk by, that stuff is hilarious. They didn't show a lot of gameplay, or any actually, but just thinking of the possibilities, I wanna ride that roller coaster, I wanna jump from the empire state building and land on some pedestrians, I wanna take a harrier underneath the brooklyn bridge, I wanna nade yankee stadium, I wanna go swimming in the east river and find some bodies with concrete shoes, I wanna be able to take an old ladies purse and beat her with it, granted rockstar needs to show me more, but that trailer got me thinking about the possiblities, and isnt that what trailers are for. Aren't you disappointed in seeing a trailer and wanted to see the movie, only to have the trailer have every single good part of the movie, and you wish you hadn't gone. naw, this trailer was perfect, gets people thinking
how can you not go to new york, the perfect place to see next gen graphics. Everyone will recognize new york, what does chicago have, the sears building, what else, no new york is perfect to start off the new generation of gta. Get back to the beginning
haha geez, didnt mean to get you riled up, I can understand you live there, or near by, and would like to see it, its just that pretty much everyone in america knows about new york, and when seeing something, can say, hey i saw this in a movie, or hey ive been here. I'm not dissing chicago, in fact i love the bears, but its not as recongizable, take it back to the beginning, im sure there will be many more cities done, but fore the first, I can see anything better than a remake of a classic.
I am sick of hearing about newyork...its not that great. the only thing its got is that it is huge but its also so cramped. i have been there planty of times...chicago and miami are the best places. LA sucks! chicago is beautiful, for starters its got wrigly field, comeski park, soldier field, hancock building, sears tower, ton of other cool building, badass clubs, badass river running through it, navy pier, great zoos, milwaukee is close by and so is indy,its got a lot of things on the out skirts and if they would devolp the expressways in the game you would get the best skyline view of any US city, o'hare airport, buckham fountain, daley plaza, has a great lake and tons of other stuff....oh and not to mention a great history...espacially with the mob. so don't dis chicago man.
I am just gettinbg tired of seeing NY. that first bridge remided me of gta3...remember. then the is spiderman which looks just ike this and i bet the new one is excatly like this.
EDIT: for the game the river cuts through the city so i would be grat for the boats in the game, the streets and expressways would be perfect for chases and more then one airport for getting to milwaukee, indy, springfield or the quadcities.
my type of game. I never really got into GTA series. I'll give it a shot once this comes out, probably rent it first. Hopefully they'll have some demo of it before then. But, for the GTA fans, it seems like it didnt give you guys that "WOW" factor either.
Gta is GTA. The scope of the environments and the story will be better than Saints Row and that is all I care about. Just out do the comp. I still like Saints Row but lets not be too hard on GTA. We have only seen the 1st lil bit.
Im sorry this was not and I repeat was not worth the countdown. Yeah it looks better... well duhhh its next-gen grand theft auto. "next-gen". But after a countdown you figure you would get some gameplay details or here about some new options or whatever. ohhh well. the trailer wasnt worth much. I belive official details on the game will be alot better. Besides GTA has never been about graphics.
agreed! NO other sandbox have i enjoyed as much as GTA and dont get me started on the dire Saints Row...Its GTA.....father of sandbox gameplay.....get excited!!
Im sorry this was not and I repeat was not worth the countdown. Yeah it looks better... well duhhh its next-gen grand theft auto. "next-gen". But after a countdown you figure you would get some gameplay details or here about some new options or whatever. ohhh well. the trailer wasnt worth much. I belive official details on the game will be alot better. Besides GTA has never been about graphics.
If you have been playing this series since on the PC, try to remember where this game has been and where it is going. This game I'm sure is not near completion. This franchise has come a long way.
Ok I like the trailer, I know the game is not polished an dup to par so why bash the graphics. This game will sell millions I think. Should be interesting to see where the install base for both console are when it hits. Hopefully they don't make this for PS2, then you really can't enjoy the HD.
serious, if they could do an entire state with the ps2, then I can't even comprehend the world of gtaIV, maybe the entire eastern seabord, if liberty city is going to be the focus, i really hope they have atlantic city on there, maybe boston.. oh man this trailer just got me thinking, this game is going to be so fun
but when you think about the scope of the game and all the calculations that go into running this small real world, and compared to Saints Row, I think it looks pretty f'n good. I want to hear more about load times and things like a new fighting system.
puufff!! i guess 9 gigs max on both consoles..too bad the ps3`s larger Blu Ray capacity advantage wouldn`t stand out as a factor here because of xbox 360`s limitations
Ive been playing since the pc and still miss being able to get a goranga by running over all the joggers in one pass. Fond memories of playing it with my frinds while getting all pied and competing for the largest criminal record. I was awestruck by the leap of gta3 and cannot even imagine what is in store for us next
Kz probably will drop before this game comes out yet..we have seen more of this game than KZ...and for the record the game looks like crap yet its gta..Looks like a cut scene for San Andres...Not too Bad I hope they dont limit it just make it multiple disc for 360 or install it
I would think that after having competition from games such as Saints Row, GTAIV would at least be on par with Saints Row in the graphics department. I guess the devs didn't learn much after developing for the PS2 for so many years. Graphics have never been one of the strong areas of the GTA games, but with the capabilities of the 360 and PS3 they could at least try. Hate my comment or whatever, but the GTA games are all the same with a different coat of paint. I bought both games for the PSP and they were exactly the same. It's time to stop milking the cow, it's time to move on.
ye saints row looked nice...but it felt to me like another wanna be "gangsta" rip off of GTA.
I cant believe so many people are moaning. Its exciting stuff! the trailer looks awesome....and for people saying its not "next gen" please boot up or play an original xbox or PS2 game eg SAn Andreas....i think yu have forgotten what last gen looked like *remebers haze*
The graphics were nice but like many said I wasn't that excited for the trailer. At first I thought it was in London it kind of reminded me of the Getaway but I hope the mood is not as serious as the Getaway.
I am really shocked at the reaction of some of you, especially the ones that call yourself gamers. Its funny but when looking at this trailer, I kept in mind a few key facts about the GTA series when assesing the quality of the game so far. The first is the scope of the game, this game is huge and the only other game I can say that I have played to compare to it on a "Next Gen System" is Oblivion. I saw a level of polish at times superior to Oblivion in terms of lighting and the sense of size of the world. Second, the effects that I see all seem next generation, I see reflections on windows, I see reflections on the water, there seems to be a genuine attention to detail in the world that was not seen in the last generation of GTA. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion but I would stop short of judging the developers, if you really want to be efficient in evaluations something then at least use the information you have about the subject matter to come to your new conclusion. This is only the first trickle of info that has come out, as such it would be ridiculous to jump to any judgement at this point. IMO the effects used so far give the city a realistic look, and I am hopeful from what I have seen so far. The subtle effects are what is on showcase here, I would suggest that many of you take time out again and view the trailers subtle details rather than seeking some huge revelation. May I remind you we don't know how old this footage is, this could be a current build or something from a few months ago a la Heavenly Sword. Just a thought.
Its called an (opinion) if they like it good, if they don't so what get over it. So anyone not liking a specific game you like game isn’t a gamer but a loser? Please dude not every one likes all games, I freaking hate most RPGs the ones I hate the most are FF, Fable and Zelda games (what are you going to flame me now because I don’t like these?) Guess what some people like the color blue over red "uh oh we should hang em" (sarcasm)
But I've got high hopes for the gameplay. I do agree that there's some dissonance in the graphical quality. Some parts look really amazing (the car driving through the neighborhood with the sunset in the background, while the skyscraper segment looked semi-lastgen. What I want to find out is where the main character's story heads. Hopefully it's not mafia related 'cause I've had enough of those stories for one lifetime.
The lighting looks great. SOunds kool. I'm not satisfied as didn't see enough.
At least its ingame.
They've come a long way since the ps1 days that's for sure! But being so realistic...might it take things too far? Going around a realistic new york and killing people with a machine gun? Putting bombs in cars and blowing vehicles up...? ...hmmm
Will be a nice contrast to the Getaway set in London.
APprove this one god damn!
Thank god for that! Well done Jeb. You win this time...
I know i will probably be bashed till I hit the 18th level of hell by everybody..but really, from the depth of my heart..I think this trailer sucked.. It didn't excite me alot about this game at all. (i have played the previous GTAs). I didn't see alot of action in that trailer, the graphics didn't "wow me", although very nice architectures. What are everyone's thought on this...
Sorry for the negative comment already, but that's how i felt after seeing it..its weird..i was so excited during the last minute countdown too..(u probalby see me repost this in several thread since u guys made so many of these posts)
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/g...
I must admit, I wasn't wowed liked I thought I would be, but those graphics do look pretty damn stunng, when you consider what the size of the playing field should be... I guess we will have to wait for ingame shots