So, a much bigger Xbox 360 hard drive is a good thing, right? Well ... not when it comes with some fairly crippling conditions. Wired has the skinny on some of the small print on Microsoft's new little "Elite" storage device:
Any data stored on the 20 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted after it is moved over Any data stored on the 120 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted. ... Are you serious? Awesome MS. First you rip off consumers with this $179 BS, now this? Great, we bend over and now they're just adding sawdust as lube.
LMAO at 360 owners.
I can already see hundreds of thousands of 360 owners calling up Microsoft because all of their data disappeared during the transfer process, and Microsoft reps telling them "We apologize for the inconvenience, but our warranty does cover digital content. Please download again."
and still download all the stuff back on my 120 gig for free! You must not know much about XBOX LIVE. You can reload anything you want. If you purchase it, it is connected to your GamerTag. This is funny that you can even try and complain about this. People disagreeing with facts again...that is so cute.
I was gonna buy the 120GB Hard Drive but i'm not too sure. Hmmmmmmm, i will wait on this one.
Why would buy a 120 gig harddrive if you don`t need the space. And if you buy a 120 gig drive then you don`t need two copies of the same data. Your gamertag data that is linked to it, is stored on-line. You can transfer that at will to any 360 if you don`t believe that then the whole account theft issue with xbox-live didn`t happen recently.So no one is forcing anyone to get the elite. Me I need the space. So I am getting it.
"And I see no point in going from 120 gigs to 20 gigs anyways...thats stupid." -ASSASSYN 36o You are 100% correct. There is no point in going from 120GB to 20GB.
I have no need for a 120 gig HD so there is NO belly aching here.
"especially since Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg told everyone to buy two 20GB HDDs back when they released all of the TV and movie content, and people were worried storing everything."
First off: don't need more then 20 GB THen if one needs it... TheSpecialist has made a program to read the original HDD by PC. Get yourself a compatible 2.5 inch 120 GB HDD for about 50 Euro, wait untill they get the right sectors to let it be verified by the 360, transport them over... And you'll have made yourself a 120 GB model
what happened to thank you Microsoft? wouldn't be easier if you just put all your data on an external hard drive or usb and put them on a pc then put them back on your 360? oh yea i forgot the 360 cant do that. just buy a ps3 and then you can upgrade to any 2.5" sata drive no filing no BS. i guarantee you if more people knew this at the start there would be less 360 sales, cause more people would be waiting for this model. i know i feel screwed over cause i just recently bought a 42" hd tv with hdmi and now even though my 360 outputs nicely, it would of been better if i could have the one with the hdmi.
"First off: don't need more then 20 GB THen if one needs it... TheSpecialist has made a program to read the original HDD by PC. Get yourself a compatible 2.5 inch 120 GB HDD for about 50 Euro, wait untill they get the right sectors to let it be verified by the 360, transport them over... And you'll have made yourself a 120 GB model" --------------- Well, I'm glad to see there's a simple alternative!
shyte, oh well i dont have the orginal xbox 360. So no complaints from me
...when you consider how they're doing it; the software doesn't copy *files*; instead, it clones the 20GB partition onto the 120GB disk and then resizes it. This, of course, wipes out the previous partition on the big drive. No shock, clone software for the PC works exactly that way. And the deletion of the partition of the old disk is to prevent "drive piracy" and account theft so to an extent it is to protect MS but its also, to an extent, to protect unwary users who might sell the old drive full, with their account info, and get themselves into trouble. Would be nice if you could keep the old drive as a backup, though... All you need to know is it *moves* your data instead of copying it.
Wow talk about totally restricting a hard drive...
Well, digital content I would not worry about losing, DJ, as the switch for that is stored online with your account information (ie: Gamertag, achievements, ect), so knowing you paid for the download is easy to figure out. The PS3 will store everything on console. You got it a little backwards there. I really don't see a need for the 120 gb HDD myself unless you don't want to stream music to your 360 from your PC and decided to burn your 4000 cd collection to your 360, but in those cases that sure is a shame! That takes a long time to burn all that stuff again. Redownloading the stuff would probably take awhile as well. In Microsoft's defense I wonder how many of them thought that downloadable TV and HD Movies would explode the way it has. Had they forseen the success live has had with it we may have seen this SKU via the launch. Guess its better than digital downloaded content being a complete flop and hated by all or MS and Sony would be really screwed! (lol I can see it now Wii 98% market share, 1% PS3, 1% 360; using a new form of the power glove was absolute genious! lol)
You're kidding right?. I think DJs saying you cant retrieve purchased content from the download history page. But i know he was just kidding though. #13 you do know you can use the 20 gig HDD with IPTV sure if you go crazzy with content you'll need the begger HDD but the HDD is only for pausing live TV and TiVo functions etc. The service itself does not need the HDD.
if you are a core user that has upgraded to the 20GB and spent $99 and want IPTV, I'll need to get the 120 GB HDD since its essentially tailored for this. I'll have to throw an additional $179 and basically say goodbye to my $99 investment. Why couldn't MS just offer me the ability to pick and choose the hardware I want. I wouldn't mind strapping on a 500GB external unit to my 360. Why does it have to be a MS HDD?
if your gonna go throw that $99 investment away throw it my way. i'll bang it on ebay to 14 he can redownload his gamertag, achievements and content again. easy.
This will suck for people that share an xbox 360. I was thinking about buying an elite and my bro can have the premium but if i want to transfer my profile, i am pretty sure he won't want his deleted on the 20gb. I really think MS will have to think about this and make a few changes.
It's call recover your gamertag. All he has to do is recover it on the reconfigured hard drive. Then redownload anything he has purchased.
Cool, thanks for the info. No worries here then :-)
LMAO! Why not just NOT give them the hard drive.
This reminds me of superman. When the three villians came into earth and tried to kill superman. Those three are the 360 different SKU, superman is the PS3. Sure, superman took a few good blows, but we all know how the movie ended. PLAY B3YOND
lol, thats nice, and surely true. xbots are angry but they will never say that. xbox360 stays crap.
You guys are the worst fanboys on this website, I'm surprised you both still ahve that one bubble. The fact is you both have nothing usefull to say and you always post to insult Xbox users.
I have a quick question. I see some people on here saying they do not need more than 20gb or never went below 10.8gb on their HDD for the 360. I do not own a 360, but I have the 60gb PS3. You start off with 55gb remaining from the 60gb hdd. I have no music, no photos, no other data saved on my HDD except 2 demos, a few game saves to the internal memory card, and the program to run [email protected] My system tells me I have 47gb remaining from 55. So I used up 8gb already of storage space. I do not really have anything on it. Does anyone else have anything similar? I feel if I was to have music and videos and other downloadable content, it would fill up fast along with my game saves. If you say 20gb is enough, I feel that my 60gb will eventually become a problem since I have very lil on it already. I know XBOX live has demos, videos, etc. If you donwload stuff a lot how does it all fit on the 20gb and I have very little on my PS3 HDD and already used 8gb??
I have both the PS3 and the X360. The truth is that everything doesn’t fit on the 20gb hard drive. When you get your X360 and set it up for the first time you will notice that you have “about” 12gbs left after the setup. Most of this space is taken up by OS information, “about” 7gbs. After that MS throws some demos in (mostly video’s for the premium system) and it takes up about another gig or so. Now, some people say that they have never gone below 10gb on their system, I find this hard to believe unless they are doing one of two things. 1 they download a game demo, play it, and then deleting it right away! 2 they just aren’t downloading at all! I am the impatient type, so I don’t believe in downloading something that I paid for (or got for free, demos) then deleting them just to re-download them again the next time I want to play them. I don’t have that much time to wait!!!! If I want to play, lets say GRAW Demo(single player) it’s “about” a 1gb download, I have to wait about 20-30min to get it. I am not going to download it then delete it and then download it again every time I want to play it. I download it once then I just keep it until I am done with it or when I buy the game or when I find another game that I think is just better to keep as a download. My X360 stays at 2gb and under!!!!!!! I have no music on it and no pictures; I stream it all from my office PC using Windows Media Player 11. So in regards to your PS3, I have the same situation but it’s because PS3 also caches some information from the games you play to make them run faster. They don’t however delete this information when you are done playing. So it sits on you drive until you erase it manually. (Remember deleting this information will make you wait for a long time the next time you play that game, because the system will re-cache that information again) Not to worry tho, PS3 has “let you” (given you the CHOICE) to go out and buy a bigger HDD for your PS3 all the way up to 250gb for much cheaper than MS. Just go to you local computer store and get a 2.5 SATA notebook drive and then install. Also PS3 will recognize up to 750gb if you want to get fancy!!! ;) Side note: I was not home when I wrote this so if I got the exact numbers wrong on how big GRAW’s download is I am sorry to all the X360 fanboys. This also goes to the exact number of gigs left on the HDD after the first install. BUT THAT’S WHY I SAID “ABOUT.” “Jump in” and “Welcom3 Chang3” Happy gaming!!!! Ps. This console war is getting very old and I am very worried about the state of GAMES!!!!! We are losing TAKE-TWO people, to Jack Thompson!!!! Stop worrying about which system is best and let’s get these “extreme conservatives” off our backs. I hope GTA is even good after all the drama.
Okay, sure, or they could make it like the PS3, and there'd be no Marketplace, no TV/Movies, no Arcade, and online matches would be overflowing with cheaters. But, you know, it's totally worth all of that for saving $40.
You don't have to worry about accidentally losing your data on the 20 gig HDD since everything is stored in your Gamertag, but this does piss me off because I think you should still be able to use the 20 gig, so its a shame that you can't have both. I haven't filled up my 20 HDD yet, but I definitely want the 120 HDD because I want to have plenty of space when IPTV rolls out...I know I don't need the 20HDD after I get the new one, but hell its mine and we should still be able to use both if we wanted to.....I'm just praying this will be a easy switch. -damm, I wish M$ would had done this one differently.
Either way, it's irrelevant as everything is linked to your gamertag. Therefore you can get everything again for free. This is really a non issue. It's funny how ignorant fanboys are. The problem is, they hate the 'other side' so much that they don't pay any attention to it. Therefore they don't know anything and just make fools of themselves posting ignorant misinformation. Actually, this article is pretty ignorant, too. The movies you only get for a limited time anyway, so you wouldn't have a 2nd HDD filled with movies. Even if you did, you can still re-download them if absolutely necessary for no charge.
i have no words for that... just lol :D MS will be pwned for this for sure.
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