Kotaku writes: "Sony's rumored plans for a new PSP-supposedly dubbed the PSP Go!-may also usher in a new wave of games becoming digital downloads for the device. That includes, allegedly, the long-awaited arrival of Gran Turismo Mobile."
8 to 16 GB internal storage? That's a joke, right? Regardless, if Sony thinks I'll gladly re-buy the 40-odd UMD games I currently own, they can rest easy. I won't. The joys of being an early PSP adopter: Each new PSP edition severely screwed the previous one.
Agreed, if some sort of a scheme is involved where I have to pay even a penny more to play my UMD games then no thank you Sony!
I don't think this is coming out entirely to screw current owners, because even if they never offered another game on UMD, you can get higher capacity memory sticks to take advantage of the downloads, I think it's testing the market to see how people respond to a download only device.
Fry's Electronics has the 8gb Lexar pro duo on sale right now. It's only $34.99 compared to it being $60-80. Also, if you're lucky sometimes Fry's puts the 16gb Lexar pro duo for as low as $69 or $79, which is great since that's $40 to $50 off. Also, it's not to screw the consumer if they do drop the UMD drives. It's to give developers more incentive to make games for our beloved portable device. Piracy is bad... i have so many games on my PSP but only own 6 UMDs? Weird, no?
@1.3 If piracy truly was the problem, they'd be ditching the PSP as a whole and the PSP Go! would essentially be the PSP2. Games out for the PSP Go! would have to avoid being backwards compatible because every single PSN release has been hacked since its release and made available to pirates. I don't see how this download-only system would thwart people who stick to the older system revisions.
It might be a completely different motherboard that's even more secure than the ones the PSP-3000s have. Also, piracy is bad since publishers do take into account the money they lose. PSP still sell cuz you can pirate games. It's the hardware that's selling not the games. However it's not the case in Japan where both hardware and software are selling like... ummm... what's something good. Damn, and i just bought a used God of War PSP Slim for $200+ so i could change it to custom firmware! I'd be happy if Monster Hunter Unite comes with it when they put it on retail. If it does have that flip or slide function then they should just call it PSP2 but PSP2 should have a more significant upgrade. They could thwart those people by releasing a different type of file format that the older PSPs cant read. Thus making people want to actually buy PSP GO! and buy the games online than pirate.
What you just described is exactly what I said, only it would basically be the PSP2. If they release new games on a file type that isn't readable on older PSPs, that's basically cutting off the entire audience that would've bought games on those older systems. Sony's back to square one, since they've abandoned the millions of previous PSP systems. The only question that remains is how Sony wants to market this thing if it's even real: As a new PSP version or as a new PSP generation? If it's the latter, they have a chance to launch anew. If it's the former, the system won't be any more useful to them in the fight against piracy.
@Excel I very much doubt Sony is going to shoot its on foot on this one. Most propably the PSP Go is PSP4000, not PSP2, so it should be fully compatible with the current generation of psp games. If the umd is removed as rumours are predicting, all those games (at least the most successful) will be available in digital format. I expect them to be compatible with all psps. The tricky part here is what to do if you have a colection of umds and want to get the psp GO, probably you wont be able to play those games on it. So dont give away your old psp, I wont, but I dont needed it. I'm more than happy with my GoW psp.
Just bought Resistance Retribution and copy and pasted the iso to my computer then copied that to my memory stick. Custom firmware rocks.
ExcelKnight your right. Their better be some sort of USB transfer option where you can copy info from the UMD to the New PSP or we can't trade in our old PSPs for the new one. I love the HD idea though. I don't want to carry anymore around. They better Keep the Memory stick to so that as that increases we have pretty much a limitless storage option.
]@excelknight It would be a problem in two cases for those pirates ... First what about new games ? Sony might ditch completely umd disc and gives download coupon when buying in stores (or even make you download them at the store you bought it) , or make you purchase them online . Also know about some guys moaning that they couldnt play a pirated copy of Idol master psp (of all games , but oh well....) because of the firmware and the custom firmwares crew not releasing a new one (thought in this case they had it , just didnt see the benefits of releasing a new few firmware that added nothing and only affected that particular game ) . Remember also that psp released starting the psp slim 2004 series , and obviously 3000 have yet to be hacked successfully , and thats a pretty good chunk of current psps . At least in japan . The increasing combination of hardware+software security are really started to take a toll , even if temporary and partial on that psp piracy . Adding a mostly digital distribution service for games would only help reinforce those current measures @pain777pas They also already started using proeminently download coupons . LIke that Capcom fate unlimited game ... They might deside upon a system of code if you can show proof of purchase or current ownership of umds ... Free voucher to download a digital copy on sticks . But of course i want the stick option as well if that happens
I agree. If this is true, Sony better have a way to convert current UMDs to a playable format (already possible with 3rd party tools, obviously), or I'm out.
"and additional loose talk of in-store kiosks that would allow gamers to rip UMD games to a storage device" http://kotaku.com/5231844/r...
UMD backup would be inviting piracy again though... that's basically copying the ISO or a CSO file... what's so hard about uploading it to megauploads or those other websites? Oh, about changing it to a different file type. I dont mean alienating older PSPs, but if they could create a firmware update that is pirate proof then by all means make one. Then let the future games released be all DD or UMDs with updated firmware protections.
they should release an iTunes type management system, that allows us to add or remove the games/movies/pictures/music we want to play... they just need a super duper encryption to prevent lots of piracy lol that would be [email protected] =D
I probably will buy if they sort some system so I can play the games I own. For example, if the copy system would be too piracy risky, how about get your system to register the games from your UMD onto your PSN account. Then, go onto your PSP Go! and download identical versions from the PS Store.
If this is true, they are getting rid of their proprietary format for the next PSP. No BC on PSP Go! I personally thought a moving disc on a portable unit was a bad idea in the first place, but now you can't play your games on newer models.... Sucks if you have a large library of PSP games.
Sony will continue to sell the psp30000. The umdless psp is aimed at a new audience who have no umd games. The aren't asking anyone to ditch their umd
Its like, awesome, but I dont WANT to upgrade my PSP.. I LIKE my PSP with SNES/Genesis on it. (And no, I will never pirate a PSP game, I own 20 legit!)
my friends put there drinks on them.
Your friends are equal to the square root of minus one
and to think microsoft was the first in saying they will implement DD but Sony is making it with success not just movies but games too.
PSP is a good device, and MS is not even in the market. No need to stir a flamewar here.
I dont think gambare meant to start a flamewar, but to remark that is Sony doing the important steps forward to implement a fully download only gaming system, instead of MS that has been talking about that, but released a core gaming system w/o HDD support crippling its own strategy. That is FACT. Not opinions, no space for flamebait or spins. It will be pretty interesting to see what kind of device the ZuneHD results to be.
Your friends must be imaginary at your prissy tea party young lady.
They just love coming out with proprietary media and then poof..
Easing the xbots to look in that direction before E3. I smell X BUTT .
i agree after kotakus epic sonys ps2 price cut failure surprise ill wont belive anything till its official
and im SURE digital only games will hold over well :/
Get a grip kotaku we know it's you churning the mill .
I have like 3 or 4 PSPs for reasons I don't even remember anymore. Maybe I'll Ebay 1 or 2 before picking up whatever this new model will be.
I dont think a PSP without UMD would be a good idea. . .yet.Reason is ,people have bandwidth restrictions.normal PSP games are up to 1,8gb.and games like Smash Court Tennis are huge.besides the fact I dont think people are prepared to download 1,8gb at a time,internet connections are another.If you searched the internet,get the stats.PSN is free.I assume,if every person that had a PS3 had the internet,or broadband,they'd be on PSN.yet,lots and lots of people have multiple accounts yet the attach rate for registered PSN accounts are still far lower than actual owners of PS3s.Its Sonys gamble. . .but its a fail.I think they want to abandon games on UMD because of the amount of energy it drains and its too expensive because only their allowed to make it.My strategy would be to,lower the price of games by releasing them on memory sticks,a 2gb memory stick.and find a way to copy protect them.
would be a great way to sell the new format, cheap too, and if done on pro duos a simple firmware update could make them playable on current psp models. I always thought that would happen because of the PSPs xmb saying, Game, in the memory card area but then they just did psn downloads The kiosk idea kotaku talks about seems unlikely because, where would these kiosks be located? They would however solve the problem of not having to download your whole back catalog of games. simply stick it in the machine and have it make and transfer a digital copy over to the new psp. but piracy would be unavoidable in this option as each umd holds no signature tying it to one system or one transfer.
Really bandwith issues ? doesnt seems to stop most psp owners from downloading psp pirated games ... And most psp didnt use the psn without much reason to yet . Did you look at the stores besides the japanese ones ? Unless you got both a ps3 and psp , you probably didnt care or play that old, ps1 game in two ways , directly on your ps3 ... or on your hacked psp . Now with a whole digital service for old and future games , it changes everything
It will play all the PSP2 games via downloads, and play all the previous PSP 1 games virtually with 100% backward compatibility (assuming they put the whole back log online). It will thawt piracy for sure; they definately learned their lession from PSP1, and the PS3 is a great proof of that.
They dont mind downloading pirated games because people will always take the easier route. . .and expensive vs cheap.its cheaper to download than buy a UMD,but cut the game price.watch people just buy the memory stick.
But it could also cost even less without any physical medium . Not that i mind it , i usually actually prefer it , i just really disliked the umd format
I thought Sony supported their formats. Did somebody say "future proof"? Oh well...
Ratchet and Clank: size matters can be bought for $16 on the PSN store ( not including tax)...and you can only download it up to 5 times.... ..i can buy the same game at amazon for $8 + $3 shipping and handling and have a physical copy of the game that will last me a lifetime.
It cost them far less for DD, yet they price it the same or more. Look into the profit per item for DD compared to any media. DD is much more profitable for them.
...what on earth... How do you implement a download only system with such small drive space? Weren't UMD movies another benefit to the external media? What will happen there? 16 gigs is a tiny collection of movies...that, with your games, saves, hopefully music... this can't be right. There must be some kind of add-on you can buy.
A huge problem is that hundreds THOUSANDS of Playstation products bought in USA are sold all over America Continent and even some other parts of the globe. Since ppl outside USA can't buy stuff from PSN because it does not accept international Visa credit card and the lack of PSN cards then this idea to sell downloaded games for the PSP might not be that good after all. What Sony needs to do is either accept ANY international credit card on ANY PSN store without adress confirmation OR sell game codes in an online store such AMazon.com . Microsoft sells LIVE's products at Amazon so why Sony can't do such thing ? Sony got to remember that the rest of America continent(not just US and Canada) and all Asia is a monstruous huge potential market and Before they put this PSP 4000 idea to work they should first find a why that Anyone will be able to buy their stuff.
just finalizing my idea ... there is no need of testing IF the USA or Japan market will react fine or not about buying games via downloads because the answer is simple, OFFCORSE IT WILL WORK. What I am worried about is that Sony might test this on the outside world without proprely beeing prepared to offer many different way for ppl to buy the downloaded games. Imagine some one not in USA/Japan/EU that knows that if he/she buys a new PSP they will have a hard to not say ultra difficulty to buy software for the new portable vg. PPL will lose interest on the new PSP because of that. I think that Sony should wait longer and make more PSN stores around the world before going 100pct in digital distribution market for the PSP.
what sony should do is backup all psp games to playstation store. go to you local game store turn in your old umd game for a download coupon and there problem solved. i doubt sony will even bother.
I think its good that they get rid of the UMD because I've already have two broken UMD movies. With a MEMORY STICK PRO DUO I can just download my DVD's, DIGITAL MOVIES IN ONE CARD. But I'm glad I still have my original PSP now it's a classic hardware to keep. I will be definitely buy the PSP2.
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