Here are some pictures that are reported to be of the production line in China of the Xbox 360 Elite. They were taken with a cellphone so the shots aren't of the highest quality.
I can`t wait for it.
the photo time stamp is over a month ago, there should be quite a few made by now
Indeed reality is that M$ is tryin to say:
"ohh my dear, sorry we made mistake with our X360, we 'd love to match PS3 specs but I'm afraid it is too late, so let's sell a new toy with same color ad try to kick a$$ of customers!"
Hey thank you Bill&Co for delivering such a poorly provided system obliging us to stay at past level.
Pfff I just beleive since beginning that only true pro-consumer behavior is on Sony side: they waited long before shipping a very reliable system, with advanced feature as Blu-ray, HDMI, real OS, upgradable HDD, free online gaming, powerful system that will provide fantastic games when developpers will master it, long-term strategy (as PS1 and PS2), "at-home" dev kits with Linux, etc...so a real investment, not as M$ who doesn't know how to do!
That is simple as that.
Spoken like a true fanboy, MrFurious.
Oooo... I like the finish on the HDD, though I dont like the racial implications of this black 360.
I think its slightly unfair to insinuate that BLACK 360's have BIGGER HARDDRIVES than WHITE 360's
That is probably the funniest thing I've read in a while!
that's some good stuff charcon, way to connect the dots
And anyways, it's not the size of the HDD, it's what you can do with the RAMM
Good one and to you also Paul.
Good one and to you also Paul. The only bad thing is we'll see a hole new series of 360/PS3 comparison posts.
I`m a black male and heck I thought that was funny. I will be up-grading my 360 and shedding my clear 360 for a better system for joy joy happiness and xbox-live killing, explotation, and systematic destruction of any opposing idiots with my clan Hell-Jumpers.
I hear these new black 360's run faster too, with the new 65mm chips :p
Any thing on the 65nm proseccor only the size. you guys are still getting ripped off no matter how you think of it or view it cause this next gen this is just getting ridiculous.
Its 65nm (nanometer) not mm (millimeter). And FYI, havin the board smaller means that there is less circuitry for the information to run through, making it run cooler, last longer, and (maybe) increase the speed a little bit.
cool i can't wait for this
My question is tho fellahs is that I have the Xbox360 so what do I supposed to do with the white or is this MS plan for consumers to by 2 of there 360. For 900.00 I can get 1 PS3 and a few games. I like MS but i don't like to be F-ed around. Does anyone have the answer? Are they going to do anything for us original 360 owners or we just out of gas hun?
you wait for the HDMI and 120Gig to become standard on the premium model (will happen in fall) , then you either :
a) throw your 360 down the stairs
b) put a game in you dont play anymore, and spin the 360 round so that the disk shatters and breaks the insides
Then you phone up MS support, perhaps pay a nominal feel of around $70 and poof, brand new HDMI - enabled 120 gig 360 :D
Or you could just buy a new one (what im doing, Halo 3 LANs!)
I will tell you what Xbots are actually avoinding and denying. M$ is giving you the finger. This new xbox360 lite is more product for your buck. You got own, way to got M$.
I think the whole idea of the black 360 was to have the IPTV converter already installed in the 360! Now if i'm not mistaken once you sign up for the service they will send you a small device or converter of some sort to connect to your white 360 which is not needed for the black! Also since 360 is upgradeable then you can keep your white one if you don't want to spend the extra cash!
The only person getting the finger is you Sony child!
Anyone else notice the date on the pictures is 2/14/2007? I'm surprised these hadn't surfaced earlier.
Yesterday I bought a new receiver with multiple HDMI inputs, so now I can house a 360 elite. I'm pumped!
Looks like I should start saving now to buy next year.
With all the PS3 games coming out this year, it will take me that long to save.
Should be cheaper by then too.
Edit: My HDTV only has one HDMI input. Are there any spliter type things out that I can run it through so I wont need to buy a new HDTV with two HDMI inputs? Anyone know?
I got a sony receiver that does hdmi splitting so i can put two hdmi in and one out to the tv. It wasnt very expensive plus it sounds killer. I would bet that a splitter is available and if not now it will come out soon as hdmi is taking off.
Just to keep a rumor going...Hee Hee
have all of the updates/fixes included? I'll be trading my whitey for the blacky if it does.
Well ask yourself:
Does my HDTV have HDMI inputs?
Do I plan on watching TV on the console in the future?, as I think there is a Fee involved.
Well do you really need this new Box?
If you answered NO to all questions above, then stay put, enjoy your current Box, as the games will look the SAME on either. No biggie..
Ok, now on to Craigslist..Ha
It just keeps on getting better! I cant wait for this beast to come out!! My bro took the only 360 in the house! So I will wait to purchase the elite instead of the premium.
Geeze! MS messed up for real. Now they see what people want, they have to play catch up with this.
It hurts doesn't? If microsoft plans to dominate this gen they have to adapt to the market. Some people wanted a bigger HDD? well how 120 (which by the way is 2x more than the $600 PS3? Wan't HDMI since Sony and their fans will not shut up... ok have it. How about giving them 65mm? Give it to them. For how much!? Well, less than the lowest PS3 SKU. Let's see how Sony spin this up. DJ spin that $h!t!
hey dump face tell me what you gonna do with your 120gig hdd huh?
I would tell you what to do with it now but then it wouldn't be proper here. But let me tell you another feature of this black xbox which caused ms to spend many hard-working months to create, and it is just for you bladestar. It is called hd-stick....it already got your attention didn't it?
They have putted a nice thin black slippery stick right under the console that you can sit on, and play your games in full of joy. You will never want to stand up again and leave your black xbox and the hd-stick
I only had to buy my PS3 once to get all that and a blu-ray drive (I had on old 160gig HD that I wasnt't using so I threw it in my PS3. A lot of people will have to re buy a 360. With that said I commend MS for finally giving their customers a trully next gen system. HDMI being fully digital should really give you guys sharpness to your games. In the end we all win. Competition between companies equals us consumers getting more.
Is it real, is it not? Who the . knows.
Its not HELPING microsoft by letting this rumor circulate i can tell you that much.
Microsoft screwed you guys :D Now you have to by another Xbox360 if you want so :P Hahha
If that's a picture of yourself your mamma screwed you :D Now you have to by(e) another face if you want so :P Hahha
It is obvious that you got to the face distribution facility a bit late. WoW, your are butt ugly.
You are an ass.
Look here toothpick! The only person getting screwed here are the Sony fans who will miss out on many new ip's and exclusives that will not go to there beloved PS3! MS is doing it right and you clowns will continue to hear bad news throughout the rest of the year from Sony lol! I just love how Sony screws you guy's over and over again with empty promises and out of rebelion you twit's try and make sound like we to are being treated bad and lied too! This is just more good news for the day and the reason why I purchased a game console plus soon to be IPTV center and not a poor underwhelming bluray player jack azz!
what are you talking about. if i want to go get a new 360, are they forcing me to get the elite..... no. i dont need HDMI, i am loving the 360 as it is, ill just buy 120 gig harddrive. i dont really see how i am getting screwed. you should tell us all how we are getting screwed by this.
Nice Idea Chacron
to #16: the pictures kinda confirm it.....
and to everyone who says this is ms screwing people over, at least you wont see any 360 fans making a nerdy online petition over it....... sound familiar?
Let's hope the 65nm chips run cooler as well as faster.
Let's hope they're better designed than the others (i.e. fewer defective consoles)
Let's hope that the promised ability to transfer your existing gamesaves and files from HD to HD comes true.
that the Elite package and separate HDD package would both contain a cable to transfer everything from an older drive. Seeing how all the downloadable content is keyed on the HDD with DRM this was probably why it took them so long to bring another HDD out...they needed to develop a reliable transfer mechanism first. Until this thing is on the shelf as advertised I will be keeping a skeptical stance.
I am calling on all fellow 360 fans. flaming used to be fun but now its just getting annoying. I request that all 360 fans to stop commenting on anything related to ps3. We are the ones who have to show the maturity. Maybe if we leave them alone they will leave us alone
HELP!! Sony rejects are a sorry bunch indeed! Sorry. :]
with your username thats rich, mummys little boy is rallying the troops up. Get a life brain dead fuks.
Overated, and Sashy is two of the N4G members (i h8 sony trolls) is talking about.
I'm still wondering if I'll buy the new one or just get the biggr HDD.
And he has no more bubbles to respond either...that's too bad...well not really. heh.
That MS has confirmed it with them. Right now, EB is waiting to see how many they get per store before they start taking pre orders. Its for real. MS just hasn't announced it to the public yet. I can't wait personally. I'm guarenteed one when they come out.
your asking for a smackdown aren't you. Ya, it does hurt. It hurts as a 360 owner. Let me tell you a very important thing about the console industry and maybe ... just maybe ... you'll get it. This is not the PC industry. Upgrades and Add ons do not work. Either you get it right the first time or you are screwed. Two SKU models (originally) ... one without a hard drive (core) ... one with a hard drive (premium). If you want a hard drive, spend $99 and you'll get your 20GB. Hmmm ... 20GB .. ok. Let me offer a download service and have high def movies between 3 to 5 GB. The more the movies, the more the space. Users cry that 20GB is just not enough. It would be nice to download the movie to an external HD but you know what ... you can't. Now, after months of downplaying the role of HDMI, we have an HDMI enabled unit with 120 GB of memory selling $20.00 cheaper than the 20 GB PS3 and they call it 'Elite'. Yes folks, the Elite edition. So what does that make my current Xbox 360 with the HD DVD player add-on? Ok, so I decide to upgrade and buy the 120 GB HDD. How much will it cost? $99 ... you know, I doubt it. OK, so how do I get my data onto the 120 GB. What ... what did I hear ... another purchase? Right, I have to buy a cable to transfer the data. Why does this sound like a PC?
Alright, it doesn't end here. What happens when space becomes an issue with the DVD media format? I'm sure people are going to gobble up the 'Elite' edition for 'HD' gaming since it is rumored that the premium will phase out. What goes into 'HD' gaming Microsoft? Hey ... Microsoft! Hey Microsoft ... answer me! What goes into 'HD' gaming? Where is my memory to hold all those extra pixels to output in 1080P? Why isn't Blue Dragon 1 disc? Why doesn't my Xbox have HDMI? Why is my HD DVD player obsolete? F'in answer me!
Bladestar ... I just SPUN it right through your cranium! I'm a pissed off man and I'm sure alot of 360 owners agree with my points.
... we're tired of hearing you cry. Wa-wa-wa
You don't have to buy it if you don't want, it's up to you.
Things change, get over it or get a job and buy it!
in my post do I say 'PS3 RULES'. See the difference between you and me is that I know when to stop caressing my 360 and start slapping it. I'm not biased. I'll slap my PS3 also.
What's called upgrading and what not
20 GB is enough. Even with a 5 GB HD movie download. You watch it, it gets deleted. What do you want to save? All those game demo's? I sure don't.
Download the demo, like it, buy the game. Don't like it, delete.
20 GB is more then enough for me at least.
HDMI? Don't need it.
So what's upgrading?
Buying a PS3 right out of the box and only have composite cables, now that's sh!t, saying true HD starts with the PS3... Right. Having spend 600 dollar/euro, have to buy seperate HD cables, a game and a 2nd controller and spend well over 700 to 800 dollar/euro... Ken said the PS3 is a computer... It runs linux... Sounds a whole lot like a PC to me
You play the same game with every 360. I really can't see why people would be dissapointed. Really I can't. I know I'm not. I am glad with the purchase I made. Right price for the right offer. And the best gaming experience.
I don't need anything else. And certainly not when it's black. Black hardware is ugly and so 80's if you ask me
in my post did I say you said 'PS3 RULES'? Where in my post did I say anything about caressing or slapping any console? I did not say you were bias either.
I was implying that you were crying like a child, that's all.
" Upgrades and Add ons do not work. Either you get it right the first time or you are screwed." So the PS2 network add on made owners mad. How about the N64 expansion pack? The N64 rumble pack? The Light gun? The EyeToy? The race wheels? Any of those add ons make people mad? No because consumers like add ons and choices, it makes them feal like they are getting more out of their purchase.
Personally I won't be getting one of the new 360s because I am happy with the one that I have now. I can just add on to my original purchase with a 1st party HDD. Though I don't need the room, I haven't ran out so far, I would like to use the full extent of IPTV.
PS "What goes into 'HD' gaming?" Maybe HD games go into HD gaming. Not an HD movie player and not a cable that has yet to impress but HD games. HD has to do with resolution. Not space on a disc, not color pallets, not even the cable that you use. Those may be "next gen" but they don't add to game play or services, those are up to the developers, both 1st and 3rd party.
I don't disagree with you. I agree that the PS2 network adapter, n64 ram expansion, etc helped to segregate game players. The eye toy and various forms of race wheels are peripherals. I don't consider it an add-on. Its considered an add-on when you add to the core functions of the system. Name me one add-on that has succeeded?
To get that HD picture, you need alot of pixels buddy that create high resolution textures. High resolution textures take memory. Where are you going to store it?
Don't get me wrong. I love my 360. I just wish it was 3 years ahead of the market also (quote from MS referring to the PS3) so that I don't need to keep upgrading to 'keep up'.
TheMart for the first time ever since i've seen you post, did you sound human. Your happy with your purchase and thats great, but why even throw in a PS3 comment where it's not really needed. I get what you mean about only getting composite is a rip cause for what sony was claiming it should've came with both composite and a HDMI cable. But what about everything thing else that it comes with out the box. I got the 60gb sku so i get WI-fi, Flash card reader, A HD movie player, and a 60gb HDD.
So just like your happy with your 360 purchase, am happy with with my PS3 purchase and at the end isn't that all that counts.
I agree with sajj316, he got the point, I got problem with my 360 after 2 month. And I can't change/refund it, cause my country is doesn't sell official 360... hey guys~ do you think I should buy another one?? let see the black version later on ...
I wouldn't have PS3 now if my 360 still good & running all the good games, but it messed up okay... so rather than get another 360, I get PS3 ... I will get my wii too this june. with $600 i can get another new mobile phone too.
hopefully they will include HD-DVD built in in black360 if not, I just hope they will not make another limited edition with extra HD-DVD later. I'm surely it feel like PC, but it's better if like PC becoz everything is attachable, this is console.
I see what you are talking about with the add ons but by your definition I don't consider a bigger HDD or HDMI to be an add on. Neither add to the core functions of the system. They don't add anything new that was not there before, like the PS2 network adapter. I would say that they are upgrades. Add ons may not sell well in this market but upgrades might, especially when they have a use like IPTV DVR. It is hard to tell but they got me ready to buy that upgrade.
I think that MS and Sony are both future proofing their systems just in diferent ways. I think that from a business stand point, MS is doing it in a more savy way. It is better to take a small expense and Produce upgrades than to take a large immediate expense and be future proof immediatly. Especially when the market can change in a matter of a few years. Who knows in a matter of years digital distribution could overtake the HD market and MS wil be there with a bigger HDD and making money off it, where Sony would be loosing money to third party HDD. I think it is good business sense. Who knows though.
So you mean to tell me you guys are willing to buy an upgraded 360 when you already have one that may or may not work just fine??!!! Just because it has a larger HD, updated chips and processors??? So what then?, you buy it. Then you just spent what? Damn near a grand on consoles alone. No games included, just consoles that do the exact same thing as the other?? I'm with TheMart on this one....that just stupid. So now they decide to upgrade it after what a year?? A year??!!! they should have just built it with all this in mind.
I think they realize that yeah the PS3 has more functional aspects to it than they were willing to admit. Funny they chose to make it black? No comparisons though, and Mart let's just see if they include a HDMI cable, that info has yet to be released!!!
all that's left to be said is.....nice microsoft...nice.
The hard drive and HDMI. ALthough games look fine with software rendering to 1080p through an analog cable, HDMI is digital and offers finest quality. Is this a boon to those who have HDMI, yes although the amount of people with HD TV's who have HDMI are in the single digits versus overall. The digital connection would be nice as it allows top performance at 1080p currently and component or VGA with high refresh rates, and high levels of detail should not be used above 1080i.
The hard drive is what pisses me off. I know you can get by with 20 gb's but that for $100 a year ago was a joke. The new one at 120 gb for $120-$170 (rumored) is a bigger joke. Seriously, go look at 120 GB hard drives on sale right now. You can get 500GB for $130. I know accessories are where console makers get their cash, but this thing should be no more than $50, tops.
Should this piss off Xbox owners? Well why should it. Options are never bad, if you want to sell your old one and get the new, you are a free person. If you don't want it don't buy it, you are free as well. Ultimately, I think choice is never bad, and won't hurt sales as video game consoles have had new renditions since atari and nintendo. Shoot, I think PS2 had 4 versions (including chip changes).
Just my thoughts, posts your comments (intelligently) please if you disagree.
My question though is does this make developers think differently? As we know Oblivion on the PS3 loads faster because 4 gigs worth of the game gets placed on the hardrive. My guess is other developers will start to do the same on the 360. What happens when people are playing 5 games at the same time that all take 4 gigs. If you still have the original 20 gig hardrive then you are now forced to upgrade, pretty much eliminating the ability to choose whether or not you to upgrade.
i cant even read a story and coment on it without scrolling down through all of "MS IS DOOMED! PS3 RULES! 360 SUX!"
I admire your stance on trying to stop flaming, but have a look back at your other posts and realise how much flaming you've done yourself. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I don't pretend I know who started attacking who first, but I know who attacks who most, at least for the last year anyway. Xbox fans attacking Sony and Playstation wins hands down. Look at people like Mart. He says he doesn't need HDMI, which is fine. Then he complains because its not included with the PS3. No doubt he complains about the price of it as well. How much more would composite, component and HDMI cables all in the one box cost? And the reason they're not there besides price is who knows who needs what? Are Sony expected to supply 3 different cable when only 1 will ever be used and we would all have to pay for all of them?
Anyway I hope you are genuine about stopping flaming, I really do. I'll keep an eye on your post and if you actually come through expect good feedback from me. Goodluck.
PS. maybe you should change your username if you are serious. ;)
About the article, I really wish M$ had bit the bullet and done the hard yards to start with, instead of portioning out these things in dribs and drabs. They make me a bit nervous. If they bring out a model with HDDVD built in later I'll really be pissed. As for this model all I really want is the harddrive. M$ should do a trade in for all our 20G's, as they were always gonna be too small.
suddenly you hate people flaming the stories..?? you were doing it all along all this time!!!
hope you've changed for better! q:
Get your camping gear together, we're heading to the desert again!
You mean its not shiny like the PS3...Ill stick to my white one thanks.