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Konami drops Six Days in Fallujah after heavy criticism

Konami Digital Entertainment Co. has decided to pull a videogame that realistically reproduces the bloody street battles between U.S. forces and terrorists and insurgents in Fallujah, Iraq, in 2004.

"After seeing the reaction to the videogame in the United States and hearing opinions sent through phone calls and e-mail, we decided several days ago not to sell it," a public relations official of Konami said. "We had intended to convey the reality of the battles to players so that they could feel what it was like to be there."

"Six Days in Fallujah," developed by U.S. company Atomic Games, was showcased earlier this month at an event in the United States for magazines specializing in the videogame industry.

Konami had planned to put the game on sale in or after 2010.

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WildArmed3522d ago

thank god.
i wasn't looking forward to this title

Yi-Long3522d ago

... it's a pretty bad thing that a developer gives in to some pressure this easily and gives up on their creative freedom.

Also, I wonder if this same pressure would have been there would have been a book announced about this operation, or a movie. I seriously doubt it.

It's the war that is wrong and criminal. A game that takes place in that exact setting and period, isn't wrong. It's just 'unwanted' by some cause it doesn't fit their personal agenda.

Here in Holland, it was the political party CDA who wanted to BAN the game if it came out (Yes... in our 'free' and 'liberal' country, we are now going to BAN games when it adresses something that 'we' don't like(!). That's a pretty bad thing if you ask me.

CDA btw, was also the party that supported the illegal war against Iraq, and has railroaded any independent investigations into that support for that illegal war.. so that already tells you something about their 'values'.

So regardless of any personal interest we might have had into playing this game or not, this is just an extremely bad thing! We don't want our developers to just give in to this kind of pressure whenever politicians or the media jump on something they deem 'not suited for a videogame'!

I really hope Konami will reconsider. they should.

theKiller3522d ago

the US government told them to, since in that battle the US marines got their @$$es kicked by the mujaheddin.

and also the game suppose to show the the dirty work which US marines do on their daily basis since the invasion of iraq!!

any way i wondering what type of game will it be, will it take sides or show the truth???

Gish3522d ago

Gotta love the ignorant "illegal war" posts. Nothing more contradicrial than stating "illegal war". Next time we should have tea before blowing the hell out of our enemy to discuss things.

Ghoul3522d ago

"... it's a pretty bad thing that a developer gives in to some pressure this easily and gives up on their creative freedom. "

artisitc freedom as nothing to do with making and ENTERTAINMENT product about a recent horrible event. Sometimes some people try to defend everything under artistic freedom.

It's certainly no tabu to make art controversial or not about iraq at this time. But making a videogame (wich is meant to be enjoyed) is pure western ignorance and totally tasteless.

i hatet everyting i read about the game.

Yi-Long3522d ago

"Gotta love the ignorant "illegal war" posts. Nothing more contradicrial than stating "illegal war". Next time we should have tea before blowing the hell out of our enemy to discuss things."

It's a war waged under false pretenses and based on lies, against a country that didn't attack 'us', and in which the USA has violated human rights laws.

How would you want call it!?

Ghoul3522d ago

"It's a war waged under false pretenses and based on lies, against a country that didn't attack 'us', and in which the USA has violated human rights laws."

and that why the game is a serious insult to any person (iraq) that was involved in the fallujah massacre. how can you honestly say this would be artistic freedom to entertain the masses with such a game.

six days of fallujah where you play as us military freeying iraq ?
come on gimme a break.

Such games btw are the reason people hate america, think about it.
or what would you say if someone would make a videogame where you kill us troops and slaughter innocent ?

Yi-Long3522d ago

"artisitc freedom as nothing to do with making and ENTERTAINMENT product about a recent horrible event. Sometimes some people try to defend everything under artistic freedom.

It's certainly no tabu to make art controversial or not about iraq at this time. But making a videogame (wich is meant to be enjoyed) is pure western ignorance and totally tasteless.

i hatet everyting i read about the game."

How would you feel about a movie about this subject? Haven't there been countless movies based on war!?

It's the war that is tasteless. Making a videogame set in that setting and about that battle, is about a videogame-industry that's growing up and dealing with more serious and mature issues, giving us players an insight into what really happened there, as well as giving us moral choices.

Maybe people who will play the game will realize what a hard, difficult and tough position those marines were in, and gain a new respect for them and the things they were forced to do in order to survive!?
Maybe the game will do such a good job in recreating that sense of being stuck in hostile territory where you don't know who are your enemies and who are innocent bystanders, when you see them running in the streets. Maybe you as a gamer will unwillingly also make mistakes, and understand that that can happen in the heat of battle.

Is that a bad thing!? Isn't it an important aspect of 'art' to make you THINK, and also make you question things!?

Ghoul3522d ago

"giving us players an insight into what really happened there, as well as giving us moral choices. "

that is tasteless.
playing a onesided videogame (entertainment) has absolutly nothing to do with "giving people an insigt". Do you really believe such a game has any artistic reasons?

"Is that a bad thing!? Isn't it an important aspect of 'art' to make you THINK, and also make you question things!? "

Not every game is art, people really mix this up sometimes. Yes some games are art but games like six days in fallujah has the same artistic rights as a chuck norris action flick. So please stay reasonable.

And about your comment that people would get an insight about the marines situation. Seriously you played to many games if you really think that such a crap of game would help you understand anything about war.

open your mind and think a while before posting.
You only want a shooter game, you dont care at all about the family and victims that where affected by this massacre. Those familys/people are still ALIVE, making a such a game (where you meant to have fun) is an insult.

one more because some dont get it.

Anti war movie = Depressing 1.5 hours where you normally are downed and depressed when watching.
"Anti" war Game = Fun action shooter, with some small cutscenes that should make you think but in te end its you having fun behind the controller.

noone of the people that want this game can honestly tell me they dont want it to have fun and entertainment.

Yi-Long3522d ago

"and that why the game is a serious insult to any person (iraq) that was involved in the fallujah massacre. how can you honestly say this would be artistic freedom to entertain the masses with such a game.

six days of fallujah where you play as us military freeying iraq ?
come on gimme a break.

Such games btw are the reason people hate america, think about it.
or what would you say if someone would make a videogame where you kill us troops and slaughter innocent ?"

The game isn't about slaughtering the innocent. It's about putting the gamer inside that battle and experiencing what it must have been like.

You can also kill as many innocent people as you want in GTA. Does that make the game any less 'fun'!? Is that your main goal in the game? Is that all you do in the game!? Does it reward you for doing that!? It gives you a CHOICE to play the game as YOU want to play it.

I wish more games would have innocent people running around. It's unrealistic to play a game and you're pretty much the only good guy in the whole world and everyone you will encounter is 'bad' and thus should be killed. I'd rather see a game where you will have to make moral choices and react to situations when they happen, instead of going into them already know that everything you meet should be shot at.

The world doesnt hate America for making entertainment btw. It hates America for it's foreign policy, their lies, their hypocrisy, their arrogance, etc.
I like how they want to BAN a game that promises a realistic portrayal of the battle in Fallujah, yet think a free propaganda game like America's Army to target at young gamers under 18 is perfectly OK to lure them into the army in order to have them kill other people on the other side of the world(!)

theKiller3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

i agree with u in what u said in ur 1.1 post.

its funny that western countries claim to be liberals and free societies and they r free to express the freedom even if they insult 1.4 billion muslim with their not funny cartoons of prophet mohamed (peace be upon him) and when it come to games which shows reality or something they dont like they bann it!!!

the western countries r not free as some may thing, and USA is the last country in the west to have the right to say they r free!!! there is no freedom and they r using brainwash terrorizing techniques to control the people through the media!!

TRUTH MUST BE TOLD so u all dont say u never heard it.

UPDATE
@Ghoul

maybe u miss understand it, the game is about the first battle of Falluja no the second, the first battle the americans failed/lost their objective and resistance won that battle! the second attack on Falluja was the massarce which the american used so many forbidden/chemical weapons on everybody including children,women, elders and civilian men in their homes!!! they r nothing but cowards who is hiding behind the helicopters and latest weapon technology!

i am not supporting a game which shows lies and make it fun, and i am with a game which shows the truth even if it hurts and not fun!! if the game will be based on true facts then am with it, if the game shows the american as heroes killing the "BAD GUYS" then am with the bann of it!! however i think this game was banned because it was suppose to show the sad truth which the western countries hides.

UPDATE 2

if the game was taking 1 side only then am with the bann, they should give u the choice to be Marine or Mujahed. only that case it will be reasonable game!! and they should make is depressing sad game, because thats the reality.

and lets be honest, the war on iraq is about these....
.
0: oil
1: drugs
2: destroy any strong muslim country
3: destroy the knowledge muslims had in iraq and kill their scientist and thats what happened
4: to make more bases in middle east for global control in the region
5: to make the weapon makers in USA rich and make them happy since they pay them the billions spent on elections(only 2 political parties in USA which always win the elections LOL)
6: to remove any future threat to israel from any arabic country
7: to make division between muslim sunni and shia.
8: probably there is more reasons we still dont know
9: any person involved in that war with his own free will is a killer/criminal/murderer/sick/ will go to deep levels of hell.
.

Yi-Long3522d ago

"that is tasteless.
playing a onesided videogame (entertainment) has absolutly nothing to do with "giving people an insigt". Do you really believe such a game has any artistic reasons? "

Yes I do, and even if it doesn't have ANY artistic reasons or merits, it shouldn't be banned or cancelled just because some peeps don't like it.

"Not every game is art, people really mix this up sometimes. Yes some games are art but games like six days in fallujah has the same artistic rights as a chuck norris action flick. So please stay reasonable. "

You already played this game!? Wow... tell us what it was like...

"And about your comment that people would get an insight about the marines situation. Seriously you played to many games if you really think that such a crap of game would help you understand anything about war. "

It won't help you understand war. I never said such a thing so don't put words in my mouth.
It CAN help you understand situations and thus actions that are made in those situations. Why do you think so many soldiers in the world are made to play simulators before being send out into action!?

"open your mind and think a while before posting.
You only want a shooter game, you dont care at all about the family and victims that where affected by this massacre. Those familys/people are still ALIVE, making a such a game (where you meant to have fun) is an insult. "

I don't even care about shooters all that much, so there goes that argument. I just don't like seeing stuff censored and banned by a bunch of hypocrites and idiots.
I've cared about the families and victims since DAY ONE, where I opposed this illegal war whenever and wherever I could. SO there goes that other argument.
Banning/censoring games like this, which tells you what went on, is disrespectfull to what happened there, and thus disrespectfull to the victims and their families, disrespectfull to the general public, disrespectfull to us gamers, and disrespectfull to truth and thus history in general!

That WAR was disrespectful. Many have died for nothing. This game tells the story of 1 battle, and there's nothing wrong with telling that story.

"one more because some dont get it.

Anti war movie = Depressing 1.5 hours where you normally are downed and depressed when watching.
"Anti" war Game = Fun action shooter, with some small cutscenes that should make you think but in te end its you having fun behind the controller."

There are more than enough war-movies that don't make you 'depressed'. Also, when you want games as a medium to mature, you will also need to allow that medium to grow up, make the occasional mistake or let it do something you personally might not like or agree with. Just like what happened with 'movies'.

Didn't Charlie Chaplin make a movie about Hitler once? Didn't that get a lot of negative reaction from people you shouldn't make a 'comedy' about such a situation!?
It's all a process.

"noone of the people that want this game can honestly tell me they dont want it to have fun and entertainment."

Everyone wants their entertainment and thus games to be 'enjoyed'. It should be a game that's interesting/fun to play, and at the same time it should be 'mature' about the subject-matter.
I got the impression from what we know about the game, that Konami weren't making a 'Saints Row in Fallujah!' kinda game, but I guess according to you, that's exactly what they were making...(!)

Yi-Long3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

... let's try to not make this discussion about the actual Iraq-war (cause that will steer the discussion way off-topic), but about the decision of Konami to not continue this game due to criticisme, and thus about (self)censorship and hypocrisy.

Is it OK that a developer gives in to pressure from a critical few, even though they know themselfs they're not doing anything 'wrong'!?

I feel that's a sad day for the videogames-industry, and thus for us gamers.

JsonHenry3522d ago

So because some people gripe and complain the rest of us miss out on what could have been a decent game?

Pathetic Kanomi. Just PATHETIC.

DeadlyFire3522d ago

Pathetic. I have lost respect for Konami. Someone else will profit off of this though. They could of had something great.

Game is still open for Publishers though. I hope someone else picks it up and doesn't drop it due to whining people. It doesn't matter what your loved one did over there if you are willing to just throw it under a rug and say forget it I don't wanna hear it. You should honor your family not lock them away from the public. I believe it will get picked up by someone. Maybe Activision/Blizzard, EA, Square Enix/Edios.

For the people that hate this idea for a game. It doesn't matter what you say. If someone wants to see this game it will be published. There is nothing that can stop it. Don't even try banning the game. It won't work. We already have 100s of war games and nothing can stop this one from production if a Publisher with balls comes along and puts it on the market.

Qdog3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

Pretty interesting topic. TheKiller, just as it is wrong to portray all muslims in a negative light, so is it wrong to judge the majority, based on a slim minority. We cannot expect two wrongs to magically create a right, can we? I didnt write or sketch the cartoon, so why do I feel like your lumping me into the same class and phylum as those that did. I am not paid to express my opinions on the war, or its beginings regardless, I'll leave it out.

I do look at videogames as an artistic medium to portray expression and interaction. To a lesser extent but still a medium, though not interactive, are paintings, movies, and music. Its up to the developer, what the creative vision is, and if Konami wanted to paint an interactive picture using not-so-distant events, they should have been able too. This doesnt surprise me, though. The same thing happened with Resident Evil 5.....some African Americans felt that they were being portrayed in a negative light, even though these same people probably killed quite a few Europeans in Resident Evil 5 without so much as a consideration. I'm not 100% certain, but in Africa I would expect to find native Africans.(I know there are native cauccasians as well) This constant griping from a vocal few, forced Capcom to devote more time and resouces to including more races in the game, instead of touching up the controls, or polishing the game more. So you see this isnt the first time that someone has needlessly taken out their emotions on a videogame developer and forced them to change their mind or actions.

By the way, I am a soldier, and I was wounded, serving my country, and the freedom of my brothers and sisters in Afghanistan, struggling against the Taliban....regardless of race, we all bleed the same color, breathe the same air, and die in the end. Some say God, and some say Allah.

IdleLeeSiuLung3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

Too bad the game was canceled due to pressure.

Personally, I think it is ridiculous that we we constantly give up due to this sort of pressure. Although based on a recent war, it isn't as if we picked on a particular person or family. It is a video game based on true events nothing more...

Even people just channeled their energy into things that matters instead of their self importance, the world would be a much better place.

I'm thinking they should approach TakeTwo, they seem to have stood up and survived immense pressure from GTA series in general. They thrive on controversy!

Ghoul3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

ok you pulled my comments totally out of proportion.

let me get this straight ok!

I DONT accept any form of censorship. It would be in my interest to release this game.

ok everything is artistic freedom but sometimes the term is used as an excuse to do what ever you want without caring about the "others". Wich is ok in art and such but i think its not ok if it is a product wich main goal is to generate profit. This game has no intention to educate us or show us a different persepektive. Its a game aimed to make profit face it.

and i think that its tasteless and disrespectfull, and with me dont liking the game at all doesnt mean i would ban this game, its just my honest opinion. So i would greatly appreciate if we could discuss something without pretending that i would ban this game just because i dont like it ok :)

summary:

I think its bad from konami to not release a product because of a some people feeling stepped on, we shouldnt force ourselfs to obay every little group feeling threaten wrong.

but i also think that this game is pure mediabull, they simply took the title and scenario to get attention for a mediocre developer. And for me personaly its insulting and far to early to be made into a game

sofar you put my arguments into a "goul wants to ban this game" comments, wich just aint true. Im not liking this games topic and setting, and i think people should start think about it more then just the pure need to play a videogame or not. Im just totally against making profit on an iraq wargame, the war itself (another story) is wrong. And a videogame company trying to make profit out of it is also wrong in my view. Thats all.

EDIT::

"that Konami weren't making a 'Saints Row in Fallujah!' kinda game, but I guess according to you, that's exactly what they were making...(!)"

again i never said that... please stay fair. My point is that a videogame about an ongoing war, using the orignal scenarios is just not fair. Its disrespectfull, cant you guys for once think for one second how these people must feel about a game aiming to entertain the masses wich is about the incident that killed your familys friends neighoars just a few years ago ? anyone ? guess not...

"The game isn't about slaughtering the innocent. It's about putting the gamer inside that battle and experiencing what it must have been like."

i didnt said that stop replying to things i never said, i meant the iraq people, those where the innocent poeple forced to war by an invading us army, and a videogame where you have to shoot the iraqs while this war isnt even over yet. seriously dont you think its a weeeeeeee uncool and insulting ?

Yi-Long3522d ago

"sofar you put my arguments into a "goul wants to ban this game" comments, wich just aint true. Im not liking this games topic and setting, and i think people should start think about it more then just the pure need to play a videogame or not"

1; you seem to think that I said that you were PRO-censorship or that I said that you wanted this game banned.
I never made those claims, and you can go through all my comments.

Once again it's YOU who doesn't read properly, and it's YOU who's putting words in MY mouth, and then attacking me over it. Kinda ironic.

2; You say the game is distasteful and insulting to the victims and families etc.
Why!? Y
ou don't know yet what the tone of the game will be, or if it will be one-sided, or trying to be funny, or whatever.
There will ALWAYS be people that might be hurt or offended by something. I'm sure there are some people who lost their loved one by a car who swerved onto the pavement or something. That's no excuse to not make a game like GTA in which it's still possible to swerve onto a pavement.

Having people offended by something which isn't meant to be offensive, is no reason to ban/censor something. Many people are offended by people that pretend there is an almighty God, and that when you don't worship this 'God', you are worth less than 'believers', and you will burn for all eternity in hell. Many people are offended by rap-music, or by water-pistols, or by a paper cut-out of an indian on a cereal-box, or by a violent Tom & Jerry cartoon, or by Harry Potter...

So what!? if something offends you, you shouldn't buy it. It's that simple. Other people are NOT offended by it, and that's perfectly OK.
Let them enjoy it.

This game was going to put the gamer in one of the major battles of this Iraq-war. There is nothing wrong with that.

You know what IS offensive and disrespectful to those Iraqi victims and their families!? People like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and all those cronies getting away with it. Getting rich of it. Keep showing up on TV and lying about it. TV-stations filling their audience with LIES about it all. THAT's offensive. Not a videogame that shows what went on there. That COULD be a good thing, if done properly.

Just like it's a good thing when movies and books about this subject are made.

Ghoul3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

agree Yi, to all fairness i must admit that i stepped in the wrong dicussion :)
i didnt attack you if it looked like it im sorry. im just not conform with this games topic.

easy mate :)

@ raz

great comment and probably much better describing what i intentionally meant. Not easy getting to the point sometimes especially on such topics.

EDIT:: btw its not my intention to attack anyone at all, sofar i enjoy this dicsussion as you all have a point. :)

And yes your right we dont know why it was dropped, a political pressure from the military would be likely "IF" the game was going into a more negative portrait of the usarmy. But sadly we will never know why it was dropped for real.

raztad3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

Guys all my respect to you all. This is what I call a mature discussion.

Talking about the point, I just hated the Game because most probably it would be no more than political fictional propaganda, picturing marines as the ass kicking good guys and islamic fighters as devils terrorists, as many other games already do, but this time with a very recent and realistic theme. That is quite disrespectful for the people suffering RIGHT NOW that absurd war, and for others that care about a peaceful world.

That said, I find very suspicious Konami has dropped the game so easily. Perhaps all I said above isnt true and game was suppose to give a more veracious portrait of Fallujah's events resulting in a quick government ban. Who knows.

read disc error3521d ago (Edited 3521d ago )

wow.

you losers need to get a life.

A lot of people hate America because they live in crappy countries no one cares about and are envious of what America has accomplished.

/thread

Kaneda3521d ago

I remembered before the war. There were protest around country no blood for oil... If the war was for oil! I am still waiting for my free oil! :) my tax money is paying for the war! I WANT MY FREE OIL!

Highwayman3521d ago

Thekiller.

You really have no idea what you're speaking of.

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DelbertGrady3522d ago

Good. I think. Would be funny if they instead went more hardcore and announced something like Six days in Abu Ghraib at E3.

raztad3522d ago

That would be REAL hardcore, so we can play torturers and rapers. I want split screen coop to play with some friends.

Ghoul3522d ago (Edited 3522d ago )

lol but wouldn't a wii mote version be more fitting ?

raztad3522d ago

LOL, could be but if you want to aim for greater realism a HD version (multiplat here please, everybody needs to get this) is the way to go.

BananaSlug3522d ago

Konami announces: "2190 Days in Iraq"

The game retells the story of a controversial battle between U.S. forces and insurgents as they fought in the Iraq starting March 2003.

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blackbeld3522d ago

Ohh too pity.... Better if they make new ZOE