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Warhawk 2: What Should Change?

Warhawk is one of the most popular games on the Playstation 3. The game did cam with several flaws, however. Here are a few improvements the sequel can make. (PS3, Warhawk, Warhawk 2, Warhawk: Operation Broken Mirror, Warhawk: Operation Omega Dawn, Warhawk: Operation: Fallen Star)

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Killjoy3000  +   2084d ago
Incorporate a proper aiming system without auto-aim (not that the first wasn't awesome, but c'mon) and either add handicap or decrease the hits it takes to kill somebody and it will be perfect. Oh, and make it 60 fps.

It'd be perfect.
koehler83  +   2084d ago
The auto-aim is a measure of balance in a few specific weapons. Warhawk has a broad appeal because it doesn't require the FPS skillset. The balance of the weapons/vehicles gives it a specific skillset. If you happen to have a good grasp of manual aim, it gives you a huge advantage with RPGs, tanks, planes, grenades and sniper rifles. It also improves the effectiveness of the auto-aim where applicable. Saying you want to remove that is basically like saying you want it to be another game, in which case you should just play another game.
edgeofblade  +   2084d ago
I'm all for handicaps when implemented properly. I hate games that don't make the elite players work any harder. I'm all for capitalism and dislike socialism in the real world, but in games, if the goal is to have fun, sure... give the elite a run for their money in the unranked stuff. But don't throw me the new player into a dogfight I'm going to get torn up on. I'll just go play a different game.
Sarcasm  +   2084d ago
Warhawk in 60fps would be awesome.

They could have done it, but then we'll sacrifice the smooth edges of 4x anti-aliasing.
Doppy  +   2083d ago
OMG. Everything they said is exactly what I wanted and thought should be in a new Warhawk. Single Player, Sea Combat, Classes, and more players (controls are good once you get the hang of them, but I agree they should be a tad easier).

A single player campaign would be awesome especially if you get to play as either faction with a different story for both (If this does happen it can be similar battles in both modes just to make it easy for developers).

Sea combat should be a combination of land and air vehicles. Jet ski is equal to jeeps and jetpacks up to two passengers back passenger can shoot their weapons, and can fly off at any time. The speed boat = warhawk Carries up to 4 players, has a boost feature, and 2 turrets on the front for other passengers. And finally the battleship = tank the truck thingy and the huge helicopter thingy. Carries at least 8 players has multiple turrets on it for other players and allows Warhawks to spawn on it.

A class system would help with team battles, but I don't see how useful they'll be in death match. I guess it depends on what their abilities are. The class system is the one that Warhawk can do without.

Warhawk 2 should be the next 60 player game on the PS3. This would make sea combat even more necessary, because when bases run out of warhawks you see everyone else run for a vehicle so those who are left will run straight for the sea. I think they need to reward players who do things for the team with badges and trophies support (make most of the badges earned in multiplayer have to do with team work next go round).
I_am_rushin  +   2083d ago
warhawk is too fast for no auto aim.

p.s. I thought the controls were awesome what is this article talking about.
ThanatosDMC  +   2083d ago
Warhawk doesnt need change but it requires "more".... basically more vehicles, more weapons, more everything anything. Aim is totally fine... it's perfect.

Sea vehicles is great. Mobile bases would be awesome. Capital ships, anyone? Anti air jeeps/tanks.
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swinesucker  +   2083d ago
Yeah, don't mess with the aiming system at all. I am a captain after 6 months and all I can say is the lobby system needs to be sorted by badges and medals to prevent endless 10-2 games. Everyone who plays warhawk knows about its lobby. And it sucks. And next time, release the game so cheaters don't have MONTHS and MONTHS to cheat. And maybe staying with the game too. We could use another patch. Yeah right.
kwicksandz  +   2083d ago
Make the graphics above ps2 quality
First person mode for on foot
In vehicle camera
More variety in warhawk designs
Bf2 style squad system and commander mode.

Oooh and multi person aircraft. Think like a bf2 bomber with different ppl manning different stations
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Killjoy3000  +   2083d ago
I'm talking person to person here with pistols and rifles. I'm talking about the auto-AIM, not the aut lock-on.
Bumpmapping  +   2084d ago
Warhawk was garbage.The on ground combat was terrible,graphics are god awful....My least favorite PS3 game this gen.
lokiroo420  +   2084d ago
What a tool! Just go back to your 5 vs 5 on live.
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jBat17  +   2084d ago
warhawk had better graphics than halo 3. that's a fact.
not really sure how they can improve warhawk.. it was almost perfect for me.. maybe update the graphics, add all the dlc vehicles, more players make it 64vs64, make it easier to snipe..
meatnormous  +   2084d ago
Sniping in warhawk isn't hard. I can snipe people across the map all the time. I even shot down a warhawk with the sniper. That is how i recieved the anti air ninja trophy.
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Fat Bastard  +   2083d ago
You're a garbage xbot. I bet you've never even played Warhawk. It's THE reason I bought my PS3 and is just plain amazing.

On topic, I really don't want them to implement a single player campain. I have a feeling it will suck and that they should just focus on the multiplayer, cause that's all that really matters :)
likedamaster  +   2083d ago
"Warhawk was garbage.The on ground combat was terrible,graphics are god awful....My least favorite PS3 game this gen."

Seems to me you've played a lot of shooters. Looks don't necessarily make a game though, it has to be fun.
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Godmars290  +   2084d ago
Needs a map editor if not creator.
Would love to see a map with floating sections. Two aerial fleets that have crashed into each other.
Eventine  +   2084d ago
agreed
More or less my thoughts exactly, i think a mission based map with one team's airship attacking the other's island base would be pretty epic.
swinesucker  +   2083d ago
Yeah, what a great idea. If only it was on pc heh.
OhReginald  +   2084d ago
NEEDS SINGLEPLAYER campagin that can be played with co-op AND offline multiplayer splitscreen with bots.
Tomkar  +   2084d ago
Man
You truly got it, thats exactly what the game needs to be superior!
CobraKai  +   2083d ago
That's the reason I never got Warhawk to begin with. I had to go back and play the PS1 version. It didn't age well. Not at all.
QuackPot  +   2083d ago
No Sp...
Not needed if they include bots.

Warhawk has now established itself as a MP online game. Let the developers focus on MP and/or online Coop like R2, and get this perfected instead of wasting valuable time/effort on SP.
dznutz00  +   2084d ago
they need to make it so u cant fly ur warhawk into a jeep without blowing up thats some BS take out the auto aim and a change the guns it would be cool to have more than one hand gun type and machine gun type and so on
dznutz00  +   2083d ago
why you guys disagree with me
please tell me u dont like that BS flying into a jeep at full speed but not killing u and the man in the jeep crap

im cool with auto aim in or out but i think it would add some skill to it without it

and the cover system idea is good also the space thing

graphics are good now i would much rather they work on gameplay and just work on the graphics last but thats just me

more vehicles
more guns
more players
better character/vehicle customization something like the level of customization rainbow six
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BlackPrince 42  +   2084d ago
The weapon and vehicle balance is pretty much spot on. I'm definitely in favor of a cover system, but the game shouldn't be built with that in mind. By that I mean a player should be able to shoot using the crosshair at all times, like now, and cover just allows you press up against walls and such for safety when your not shooting.
dericb11  +   2084d ago
Don't make Part 2 just do a 4-6 GB Expansion
The small changes can happen but why lose what is already there. I say add a crap ton of maps, weapons, control options, modes and anything the community likes that makes sense for $20-30 USD. Just my opinion. Love the game one of the best multiplayers of any system this gen.
QuackPot  +   2083d ago
Warhawk 2 needed.
exapansion packs have been good - new vehicles/maps - but now they are reaching the point where they really have to revamp the game itself.

Just hope they get it right because it truly is one of the best online experiences on the consoles.
spunnups  +   2084d ago
Just put it into Space and Add a cover system and you have yourself a winner.
XxZxX  +   2084d ago
with uncharted graphics.
Yes auto aim definately required Cover system.
Godmars290  +   2084d ago
Cover system...
Yeah, that works really well with TANKS!

Don't mean to cr*p on you or anything, just saying that it wouldn't work too well.
FunAndGun  +   2083d ago
why a cover system?
you can crouch behind a rock or a wall in Warhawk...why do you need a "cover" system?
spunnups  +   2083d ago
ok maybe you don't need a cover system. but put it in space, add a few more vehicles and planes and weapons, with a space theme. a single player online coop campaign where you can play on both sides. all these things add up to one epic game. i put a lot of hours into the first warhawk. this next one will easily take over my life.
cmacdonald  +   2084d ago
I don't think we need a new game, it is perfect already in the way it plays.

Give them a new project with the same engine.
Fulensenca  +   2084d ago
I wish
60 fps with a better and more realistic graphics

Single player ( coop also would be great! )

Space scenario ( like Colony Wars, I would love it )
swiftshot93  +   2084d ago
Based off the demo
The game ran at 60 FPS and there were no hitches at all.
The graphics were impressive but the art style is what is fantastic about it, art style shouldnt be sacrificed.
PotNoodle  +   2084d ago
64 players
taco_tom237  +   2083d ago
umm
i think it needs a campaign mode because some people who have a ps3 don't have online.

i meant to respond to the person below me
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QuackPot  +   2083d ago
Not sure about 64
with the curent maps, even the biggest Vaporfield glacier, 32 seems just right.

64 would be neat if they can guarantee big enough maps and clever bots if need be to make up numbers.
PotNoodle  +   2083d ago
Hence why you make bigger maps..
grantps3  +   2084d ago
warhawk is easily one of the most underrated games this gen.

i agree that the graphics werent too special, but the gameplay made up for it and then some. After all the DLC it really is one of the most fun games i have ever played.

warhawk took skill, sniping wasnt hard but it took getting use to.
cryymoar  +   2083d ago
warhawk is one of my favorite games ever played.

The only thing I want is where when using the motion controls to maneuver, the camera stays locked on to the warhawk that you are locked on to, Similar to LAIR, because this makes it easier to line up your warhawk for a shot than turning and looking for them. The camera will lock on to the enemy warhawk, then just tilt and adjust your warhawk to face the enemy, when the enemy is inside of your warhawk's aiming area, it locks on to fire, then just shoot away :D!
Farsendor1  +   2084d ago
why does every game need a campaign mode im fine with just an online game heck thats what i would rather have it just works for warhawk.
cmacdonald  +   2084d ago
Agree, still haven't touched KZ2 single player yet.
dericb11  +   2084d ago
Your right and it does not need one. Most people don't play single player unless they need to for unlocks, trophies/achievements or can't go online. Warhawk honestly would have had some cheesy single player for people to lower the games rating with. Since its not there 10 people want it for some unknown reason. If they play the game they could see that it would suck. On a final note the game would cost more. I would rather it be cheaper and drop the unless stuff then cost more and lose interest in a single player mode.
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Sharpshell  +   2084d ago
I agree...
BUT I still think Warhawk could have benifited from some sense of background. I was always bothered by the "its a war, go fight" vibe I got from the game. I would liek for them to keep the price/stragety the same where its an "online only game" but with a "campaign" which serves more as a tutorial/introduction to the world. By doing this they would provide a little background and allow players to get a grip on the controls before only play. I can remember being so frustrated by being torn apart my first few matches
Dino  +   2083d ago
it was and is the game I always go back to
Downloaded it the first night, the controls weren't a problem for me as they have been for other people. I think that game is amazing, and especially as an online only game. No need to know why the war started just know that you got your teams back.
Godmars290  +   2084d ago
Another cool thing,
Would be full character/vehicle customization down to insignias , but it would be abused easily.

Still, it would be cool to tool around in Bonaparte from Tank Police
chasegamez2  +   2084d ago
more weapons
alot more weapons
Makidian  +   2084d ago
It needs a SP campaign for sure. That was my only problem.
Sharpshell  +   2084d ago
Mechs
how awesome would that be? I also vote it should be only in space... they would have to reinvent a few thigns but its def do-able plus i don't want the sequel to makes the current game obsolete.
Cure  +   2084d ago
I HOPE!
the devs are not listening to you people. a cover system?? are u people mental. No auto aim?

you guys would ruin the game. you need to look at what made warhawk so awesome. ill tell you. ITS SIMPLE! the maps are layouts are pretty much the same. so no need to be like oh man where was that place or oh man where do i go - im lost.

auto aim makes it simple and does required skill. keeps the pace of the game going well and wont frustrate people that arent elite.

i hope they leave everything the same. but enhance the graphics > destructible environments > have a world domination mode. were 4 types of aliens/humans fly from island to island to capture it and hold until you captured the world type..that would be capture the flag at a bigger scale..stuff like that.

single player for this would flop bigtime. Co-op would be a better route
FunAndGun  +   2083d ago
Agreed
Warhawk is a frantic game. cover systems and no auto aim would slow it down. The first one is nearly perfect. All that is needed in part 2 is more content, updated graphics, more customization, and some vehicle variations.

Warhawk is the best multiplayer game I have played. There is just so much you can do and it takes a long time to master all the facets of combat.

I don't need a single player mode. A little more story/background would be nice. If they do incorporate a single player, I hope it doesn't take attention away from the amazing multiplayer.
ChozenWoan  +   2083d ago
Agreed and Agreed...
Just put more objects on the ground to hide behind so foot solders can take more evasive maneuvers and it's all good. With everyone having auto aim, the ability to duck behind a wall here and there could drastically improve the avg life expectancy of a solder on foot.

I'd also like it if the ranking system allowed players to spawn with certain weapon load outs. Meaning the higher ranked you are the more weapons you have to choose spawn with, or the more weapons you can spawn with already, or something similar to that. This would give more meaning to ranking up, but not break the mold of the current game play.
yess  +   2083d ago
Destruction
of buildings wouldent hurt.
Godmars290  +   2083d ago
Least everyone forget
The Warhawk team has left Insomniac, which far from being bad news is that they're working on Warhawk in space.

Who knows what that's going to have.
ps92117  +   2083d ago
It's not insomniac that made warhawk, it is incognito, plus I don't think it is the whole entire team that left just the director.

On topic, I love the controls, so they should remian as is, but like some of you said a floating city or mech would be amazing, and make it 60 players instead of 32, and how about water vehichles(don't need to be surface water o.o)
NegativeCreepWA  +   2083d ago
A lot less auto-aim would be good. And refine the controls for when your on foot.
cc_star  +   2083d ago
Utter Rubbish
Warhawk is great because it is none of those things.

The last thing anyone would want is clans & level ups like KZ2, which is just a boring stat-fest. a single player campaign, which would be boring after a week, I'm not sure how sea combat would work, would it just be floating missile silo's? again no point

Warhawk is great because it's fast, it's not FPS, and the the variety of vehicles are perfectly balanced with being on foot, anything can take anything down, and that is why IT'S GREAT.

I'm not sure they'll be a Warhawk 2, because the more or less the whole team have left incognito and set up a new company called lightbox interactive, and they have said they are working on a project which will appeal to fans of Warhawk, I can't wait.
QuackPot  +   2083d ago
FPS vs TPS
There will be just as much fast action in FP as is currently in TP.

But FP makes you feel more part of the action.
xg-ei8ht  +   2083d ago
Killjoy3000 - spot on.

But i thought it was 60fps already, if not, felt like it.

I never bought the full game because of the autoaim.

For me this game should have been a FPS. vehicles were sweet. Graphics will be improved anyway. It's a first gen game.

And a SP Campaign would also be good.
BlackIceJoe  +   2083d ago
I am so happy I am not the only one that wants the single player campaign mode back. I loved shooting down many Warhawks in the story mode and if in Warhawk 2 that comes back that would be awesome.

I for one hate that Warhawk had no offline mode too. I would like if in Warhawk 2 you could play with three other people on split-screen with out having to be signed into PSN to play a good game of multi-player.

Other then that Warhawk was good on the PS3 and if these features were to be added the game would be even better.
Bathyj  +   2083d ago
Single player.
cryymoar  +   2083d ago
i know
i was really looking forward to the like 100 warhawks on screen at once, and those huge carriers.
Bathyj  +   2083d ago
I'm not into online, even though I'm sure its a great game. I was a big fan of the first one and was devestated when they decided to go MP only. I think a SP Warhawk is due.
QuackPot  +   2083d ago
Definitive improvements
As one who plays every day and my current ranking of Cmd Marshall, I have a reasonable knowledge of the pros & cons of this game.

It is better than Halo & CoD4 without a doubt and can be made even better with the following:

* Become a FPS
* Has Sprint, Prone, Roll & Climb(as in Assassins Creed) functions
* Bots with wickedly clever AI - totally human like
* Map creator/editor
* New weapons - including heavy machine gun/minigun
* New Vehicles - including an airbase and Halo-like Elephant
* friendly fire mandatory on all ranked games
* allow offline play - no need to log into PSN.

Also warhawk 2 should improve the character/vehicle art designs - make everyone/everything look cool(eg the jeep looks corny compared to Halo warthog and likewise the tank compared to an M1 Abrams MBT or BF:BC tank).

Relatively simple improvements which would make WH2 a definite 10/10 MP only game.

SP & coop not needed especially if wh2 had bots, map editor and retains its split screen.
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Etseix  +   2083d ago
this game dsnt needs anything, the only thing a game need is a fun gameplay, and this game sure has it. (except this)
*parachutes (can probably add fun, still not necessary)
*ships (not necesary)
*the 2 pilot at jeep make him be able to shoot, not just be watching while u are being shooted lol (still not that necessary)

in the other hand.. if the make a *Warhawk 2* i just can think of it as a Star Craft on TPS, with mechas and all that space stuff, now thats a different game.

cya at Warhawk ;)
Mutley416  +   2083d ago
Warhawk...was great...but it needed it`s servers alittle tighter and The Leader Boards to really work ohh and there ranking system too...

I played warhawk for about 30+days and with no leaderboards and ranking.... system i was turned off-

So recap-
Working leader boards-
and ranking system-

gonna be a must buy for sure-
they where pretty dam close the first time-
Homicide  +   2083d ago
- Better graphics obviously
- More maps and vehicles
- More destructible environments
- Raise Max number of players (40 to 64)
- Better ranking system
- Be able to lay down

Other than that, Warhawk is awesome.
W-k  +   2083d ago
I play warhawk more then any of my games But there arnt enough maps it needs alot more stuff.I would like to see some thing more for ranking up like extra guns but nothing too overpowering the warhawks are hard enough to worry about.
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