Killzone 2 has one of the best online multiplayer on the market today. So why isn't it as popular as Halo or Call of Duty?
Another question mark?
>_< The way of N4G, I guess. Now we're going to have an about 2.5 hours titled "Is Killzone 2 really popular?" or "Killzone 2: popular or bust?" or "Is Killzone 2 not popular?" or some variation of that. I'll be back to confirm my theory. ^_^
I have to admit... That article is pretty accurate. First of all, I love Killzone 2, easily the defining game of this gen (on all platforms)..The single player was epic, the multiplayer is one of the best. I myself bought the game day one, finished it same day and jumped online. But for the last few weeks, I haven't touched the online, for the following reasons. 1) I'm not really the best of players and so ranking up just to get to better classes is bit hard and tedious. 2) The weapons (excluding the best sniper in gaming history) are mediocre. Nothing memorable, not only that, but none (except the sniper, which I have yet to unlock) make me want to play more and more. The maps are so well made. The details and structure are amazing to say the least. if they had assist points, leveling up would be easier and I would have enjoyed it a lot more. I still play it but not day and night. Probably just 20 minutes a week.
Because it is not unpopular.
And the assault on Sony continues with some of the most idiotic attempts at journalism ever. Unpopular? Someone doesn't even own Killzone 2.
"the weapons (excluding the best sniper in gaming history) are mediocre. Nothing memorable, not only that, but none (except the sniper, which I have yet to unlock) make me want to play more and more." Then we can say the same thing about COD and Halo. I seriously dont understand why people are still attacking KZ2, its like people want this game to die because it fulfilled the promises that Sony and GG kept about this game. seriously, you guys(In General) have to stop, you guys are looking dumber and dumber everyday. Im pretty sure if this game was on the 360, people would go crazy (OMGZZZ we pwnz ur PS gaiz!!) but since its not, its "Over Hyped BullS**t" since thats how the biased media puts it. I seriously wonder how much M$ is paying the media? If theres anything I see people complaining about when it comes to this game, its the lack of split-screen and thats agreeable, but when it comes to stupid miscellanious things, I dont agree, cause its BU*****t. I seriously cant wait till November to see the Double Standard that the media puts when COD:MW2 releases.
I probably wouldn't like it either if I sucked. This article is FUD.
I have the game, it's very, very intense online... and I like it. But, I still play Call of Duty WaW just because of the split screen functionality. When my friends come over, that's Soul Calibur 4 and I couldn't get them to buy Killzone 2 because it doesn't have split screen. And, too bad it doesn't have Death match like Call of duty (not team death match).
that strange, everytime i log in, i seen a lot of player playing. How so unpopular about that?
Although he's a 360 fanboy. So far I'm the only Sony supporter that speaks out about the necessity of splitscreen in Killzone 2. Come on, Motorstorm went through the EXACT same thing! At first people were in denial, saying things such as "No! Its a really great game! We don't really need splitscreen!" But as the months went on, people started getting really vocal about splitscreen. To the point where the Motorstorm devs had to MAKE SURE they implemented 4 player splitscreen into Pacific Rift! Now we need to do the same for Killzone 2! Sure, its an awesome game! But you know whats even more awesome than Killzone 2? Killzone 2 with SPLITSCREEN!!! >:D Come on guys, we can make the devs implement it if we join together for this cause! Even if its not possible for Killzone 2, the devs will make sure Killzone 3 has it. ^_^ And yes, plenty of my friends decided not to buy Killzone 2 because of the lack of splitscreen. If we don't ask for it, we may never get it. Just imagine if no one asked for rumble, in-game XMB, custom soundtracks, achievements, etc! O_O
The process goes like this: Some people want to hate on the game. Despite what everyone is saying in previews, they nitpick everything. Take AI for example. The standard line went "KZ2 has great graphics but it looks like the AI will be awful". Well guess what. It has some of the best AI I've ever seen in a game. They jump from thing to thing in an effort to attack the game. When the reviews come out, they are quiet for a bit, but they use a couple of slightly-lower-than-AAA review scores and slightly-lower-than-most-mega- AAA-title sales to get a foothold, and then the fact that KZ2 has had lower than expected sales turns into "haha I knew the game sucked here's why". Seriously, you see haters latching onto the slightest bit of negative news. I've seen people say stuff like "haha KZ2 got 7/10 from EDGE that means it's a flop - it's all because of its shoddy controls", when EDGE actually praised the controls and the multiplayer and many other things about the game. There are also many people say something like "lol everybody said KZ2 would sell 1 trillion copies at launch and it HASN'T I knew this would happen it's because the weapons suck". Making some tenuous link between sales and game quality. KZ2 has sold very well - there are more factors than simply game quality. After all, on the shelf, many people pick a game up based on the title and the cover art. Why did RE5 shift so many copies? Maybe because it has "Resident Evil" in the title? The latest Need for Speed sold pretty well despite being panned by critics. If you go online in Killzone 2 it's pretty popular - the server setup needs to be vastly improved, but there are a lot of people playing. Go on killzone.com. There are 300,000 players weekly or something like that. Mostly I think this article's headline is wrong. Killzone 2's multiplayer being unpopular implies that those who have played it don't like it and have stopped. But actually it's just that many people have, for whatever reason, not picked up the game. Edit @ rockleex Split-screen is essential I agree. The thing is, for some reason, people are happy with offline split-screen without bots. I hate it myself, and I'd rather such a useless feature wasn't there, I'd much rather it with bots or online - BUT it does sway opinion. How on earth am I meant to show off KZ2 to my friends when it's effectively a single-player experience? You can't enjoy it with friends when they're round. If I want to crack out a decent multiplayer game I'll get Warhawk or Motorstorm 2 out. Or littlebigplanet. When you invite your friend over and play one of these games, if they enjoy it they consider getting it themselves. Can't do this with KZ2. The devs have just been so thick-headed. Rather than polishing in terms of graphics and gameplay tweaks (when numerous gameplay balancing tweaks are still needed online) they should have added as many features as they could. This is the major success of Halo. Killzone 2 doesn't come close to that 1 1/2-year-old game in terms of features - forge, co-op, split-screen, number of maps, community features. Split-screen should have been higher on their list of priorities.
These guys must suck to not like Killzone... probably those that spray their ammo hoping to hit something. They cant aim with the sniper rifle?! HAHAHHAHA!
Already mentioned the reason but the story failed. It has broken gameplay real FPS fans don't wan't to struggle with. Some of the reasons are stated in my comment on this page http://n4g.com/dev/NewsPend... I'm sure the single player turned FPS fans off but the multi-player I played twice and gave up because of the goofy forced hani-capp(swaying of the gun) to say the least. Don't hate on me the game does not sale and that speaks for itself. I'm sorry but the game is over hyped in visuals, gameplay quality and offerings.
i dont know if unpopular is the word, but sony did a really bad job in letting the ps3 user base know how detailed kz2 is. i have mad scrub friends who will play cod over kz2 all the time, their scrubs they dont know the detail that went into kz2
KZ2 rocks, multiplayer is awesome, singleplayer is awesome. Only people who say it isn't are xbox fanboys (Why dis) and crap gamers.
i love killzone 2... i got it day one and it blew my head off how detailed and amazing it looked and played... i spent alot of time on the single player first i completed in on veteran then did it on elite (which was feckin hard). i then went into multiplayer at first i was confused as to what was going on (as i was with cod4 at first) but i soon picked it up and loved it within a few days tho i had ranked up all the way! then i spent some more time getting the second abilities (a few more days) and now i never play it i just dont feel the urge to i dont really know what it is but maybe i just got everything way too quick... i have friends on psn that have played it for time and still cant figure out whats going on lol... and they suck at it buit there good on say bfbc... i really dont know what it is but for me i think its just too easy to rank up... i still got plenty of hours gameplay out of it tho so im happy and maybe when they bring the dlc ill go back on.
I have a few friends who bought it, played it once then never touched it again because of the look/aim controls. I love the game and don't mind the controls, but sometimes they can be very frustrating. I applaud GG for trying something different but I do feel they shot themselves in the foot a bit with the controls, had they kept it sharp and responsive I think they would have had more sales. And don't say turn the sensitivity up, that makes it freakin worse! So while I don't agree that it is un-popular, it certainly would be more popular with standard issue COD style look/aim controls. And the fact that most people are max rank already, there just isn't the incentive to keep playing.
But hear me out. From a PS3-only owner, a Killzone 2 buyer on day 1, and a gamer who owns/plays almost every shooter I can, even I can admit that Killzone 2 lacks one major feature... DEPTH. Yes the game looks great, run's smooth, and is really fun, but there isn't enough stuff to do. I finished my Medal/Ribbon trophies in 3-4 days and achieved the top online rank in that same period leaving nothing left but the Clan Valor system, which is great. They need to update the game with a more robust ranking system. There's nothing that seperates players (aside from stats) when your in a room and it makes you feel like you haven't accmoplished anything. I hope they patch it, it's still a great f'n game
try playing Call of duty 4 on ps3, constant disconnects, host ended games all the time, some days can't even find a game, now Killzone 2, server fulls everytime so far, ive got dced once (the power went out) seriously, Killzone 2 sales may not have been up to matching Halo, but anyone who has Killzone 2 is playing multiplayer...noone bought Killzone 2 for single, as great as it was, way too short.. but its for Multiplayer and its great, and 360 fanboy or dumb articles like these really are blind and just looking for attention... Im sure halo3 mulitiplayer been declineing since launch, jsut like Gears of War 2 would be too, for for the fact, its a ps3 title exclusive and people mostly enjoy ripping on it, go ahead, but if you havn't played it, your missing one of the best FPS games Ive played in awhile...
You know, when I first started playing KZ2 I could not help but think that this was the best traditional FPS I have ever played (on a console). I played online for 3-4 days straight... then it just got so boring to me I have literally not played the game since the first week I bought it. And the weird part is I think the game is fantastic! But I just can't seem to bring myself to play it online because it just sounds dull compared other multiplayer titles I own.
I Think The Main Reason Killzone Is Not Played As Much. Is Because Its Too Hard For Most Casual FPS Fans I Have To Concentrate Twice As Hard At Killzone When It Comes To COD4 I Just Go Gun Ho Most Of Time & Nearly Always Come Near Top Of The List Maybe Its My Style Of Play But In The Same Way Thats Why I Like Killzone(A Change) No Party System & Over Powerful Shotguns Hurts As Well
shooting is flawed
The weapons are way too inaccurate and the controls are clumsy. Many of your deaths have nothing to do with you failing it's just bad luck. But... There IS the STA-3... WHICH IS GREAT!
but I've been playing some. I have to admit though that the fact that I have too many new and good games makes this game less played than I'd like to. I'm gonna play this weekend though =)
I just got it, today! whohooooo! I've barely tried the mp, but it seems kinda cool, whatever, flamebait article, only suckers click the link!
sometimes it's hard to find your friends and I don't like that I wish you can use the xmb and invite your friends into a room and play that is what Xbox does But i do love my ps3 more then anything
Christ,who even approves this tripe?
Forget about who approves this, who writes this crap? I'd love to see how they figure that people are not playing online given the game has only been out a month and stats aren't released regarding network play.
Hmm lets think here. Two games that have a fanbase that is enormous or one game with a small fanbase due to it's semi-decent predecessor and hesitant gamers sitting on the sideline hoping this isn't like the first one and yet won't touch it. The amount of people that play online is pretty amazing seeing how many units KZ2 has sold so far.
Because it gets boring quick.
Hey, I bought it....and traded it in 3 weeks later. Why? GREAT single-player, boring multiplayer. I found that the class-system replacing the cover-system was underwhelming. Add to it, very slow, lame upgrades, and it basically just turned into a rocket-fest the further I ranked up. It went from a game whose strategy was boring and almost unnecessary, to a game that was little more than unbalanced frag-fest. lame....COD4 was much better.
from some one that complain Sony rules N4G and love HALO 3. haha funny
I got 360, PS3, PSP, DS and PC gaming happening over here. I call it how I see it. Did I say Halo 3 is the greatest shooter ever? No. That for me belongs to COD4. I'm also anticipating FFXIII and have been calling for the 360 version to be cancelled. That makes me a M$ fanboy I suppose? Please, I play on all consoles bud. No fanboy here.
right, who are fooling Halo boy.
Well that's an opinion, not fact or 'proof' of anything. World of difference there matey. KZ2 is the only online game that HASN'T got 'boring real fast' for me and I've been on it non-stop since launch. Different opinion, see?
Screw the frame rate. I want to play with my friends when they come over.
People that buy XBOX 360 are often younger than those buying the PS3. PS3 gamers are probably much older than 360 owners. In my opinion, older people dont like the image of the futuristic games, they prefer something like modern warfare.
lots of people play killzone 2 and xbots try and bring it down by saying things about it that they dnt really mean.
KZ2 was Son'y great white hope the game was so hyped by PS3 fanboys and PS3 media the mainstream media had no choice but to praise KZ2 in the reviews.
360 FANBOYS HAVE ADMITTED DEFEAT
Kz2 is boring if you're constantly getting your azz handed to you. i enjoy the multiplayer aspect more than the story mode. psn=southpaw79, 3% ribbon and 6% ribbon. i don't like the assault class but when in Rome do as the Romans do. GG needs to release more stages because the tharsis depot isn't a solid stage by any stretch of the imagination.
The depot sucks with more than 12 players.
Half the games I play have been there. THERE ARE OTHER MAPS PEOPLE!
why does ps3 owners dount backup their sistem? will be a better question i believe 360 owners are the best gamers if killzone2 was a 360 exclusive the sale numbers end online players would be amazing but sadly is not so a incredible team like guerrilla has to straggle.end before you desagree i owne all 3 sistems but i love my ps3 more than my 360 but the true is the true you are ps3 fanboys not gamers.
I buy games that i'm interested in. I much rather buy(and play) games like Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4, Warhawk, God Of War 3 or FFXIII than any FPS. And i'm sure many PS3 onry owners would agree with me... Fall of man sold well because it was the only game worth playing when the PS3 launched. having said that, i did enjoy Killzone 2 (as mush as CoD4) and think it has the best sniper class ever in a MP...i'm just not into farming headstos all day...gets boring after a week! plus the hype just "killzoned" me away from buying it. :)
Lets put it this way: Roughly three high budget games came out around the same time, Street Fighter = 60$ (Big franchise, massive ps3 follow up) Killzone 2 = 60$ (Unknown title outside internet) Resident Evil 5 = 60$ (Big Franchise, massive ps3 follow up) That is a whooping 180$ if you want to get all of them. The ps3 userbase is not that into the fps genre as xbox's and the other games are well known and mainstream so many picked them up instead of KZ2, at least that seems to be the case in the states. Now, in Europe KZ2 is still in the top ten in some countries, and I know Europeans are crowding KZ2 servers, so I expect very solid numbers overall for KZ2. At least 2 millions copies sold and a very large percentage is enjoying the game online. Let the game build stem and its followup, is TOO early to be talking about unpopularity when there are thousands of simultaneous lagless KZ2 matches running as we "speak" here.
That would just make you crazy. I buy what I KNOW I will like.
It takes around 15 hours of play to unlock the basic version of the real game (ie all classes), and even longer to get at the full version of the real game for the class you want to specialise in. You have to grind in a game that belongs to a genre where grinding is normally the exception, not the rule. The problem at its core is that the importance of stupid things like levelling, unlocks and co-op are over-emphasised by games journalists, and the games we play suffer for it. COD has a lot to answer for, in a way.
If you are able to dedicate the full 48 hours of your weekend to ranking up you are either extremely lucky that you found the time or have no life. To make it worse these people then complain that ranking up was too easy.
I think because its only respawn
There is a world of difference between not being popular and not being as popular as COD. I was playing today and I never had to wait more than 10 seconds to find a match.
Its boring. That is the only thing I can say. I dont know why exactly, but it is. You reach general so fast and after that it just gets stale. Each map takes a long time. But then again, I am not a fan of FPS. I like Socom... and nothing else.
Killzone 2's multiplayer is only unpopular to people who suck at the game and xbots. I guess unpopular = not being able to run & gun to easily get 1st place in the game. I mean all you do in COD4 is throw 3 random nades then run & gun stopping power and you can easily get 1st in the game without any skill at all. As for Halo it's pretty much the same as far as run & gunning goes and then after that it's basically nothing but a melee fest. This is why Modern Warfare 2 will suck (except in the eyes of the people who like to run & gun and mindlessly rack up skills as it makes them think they are a "pro" at the game) since it's going to be nothing but COD4 with gloss.
Yes you can't float around like a F'n fairy blasting people with a light-machine gun in KZ2, and the people who think COD4 and Halo 3 introduced the FPS Online Arena may hate Killzone 2 for that but I don't. I appreciate its more realistic feel and more varied team match rounds and I believe all the skeptics (who have probably turned a blind eye to all the overwhelmingly positive reviews) will eventually get used to it and convert over.
Exactly , only people who say this game sucks are either xbots or people who are so used to games like Halo and COD that really doesn't require much skill. They are also the new generation of casual gamers but don't realize it. I even had a friend really good player in Halo and COD but he didn't even know that Halo and COD had Auto Aim.
"So why isn't it as popular as Halo or Call of Duty?" Umm, the xbox360 has twice the install base, and COD4 and COD5 are multiplatform.
I haven't seen the swarm of xbox360 fans your talking about. So, stop being a paranoid. Everyone has a right to like or dislike a game. Good reviews mean nothing if you don't like the genre or the intricacies of the multiplayer/single player. There is no right or wrong answer, only preference. The Halo and Call of Duty franchises are established franchises that are a bit more noob friendly. Killzone 2 is a hard core game created for the hardcore. It has a moderate learning curve and is different from other "vanilla" FPS's. Nothing I said was a knock against the game. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. Don't impose your views on others and expect them to agree cause' you said so. Personally, I love Killzone 2. It has a great multiplayer component. The only thing I would change is the addition of split screen (sp), party system implementation, and a more robust ranking system. I would love some DLC with new maps.
@Spike ~ And what about true Sony supporters who feel the game ISN'T that good or IS boring?
Cause its friggin rubbish thats why.
I love The Smell of delusional, retarded haters in the morning!!!
Pretty much like Man Utd of late
people intelligent and not for xbots tards... :)
I love KZ2 personally... it's the only FPS I've played on console this gen (I'm more a PC guy for this kind of game)... I don't play it a lot online because there are too many great games (on the PS3 and PC, as far as I'm concerned) and so little time to play. No other reason.
In my own personal opinion, KZ2 multiplayer is the best online-shottin' I've ever done. Maybe not as good as BattleField 2 on the PC, but I can see myself pouring countless hours into it. So far I've played the game over 35 hours, and it looks like I'll be sinking quite a bit more.
i bring the challenge to all those that want the beatdown in KZ2 southpaw79 is my psn, you can check my stats on killzone.com, all most of you do is hide behind your n4g.com post. i am interested in bringing the enmity to kz2 multiplayer. i want a challenge, bring on those disagrees but at the same time, prove that you can play the game (if some of you that claim to have the game even own a ps3) bring the m#therf#### ruckus!!!!!!!!!!!
Ill take u on sucker Psn. Hellsvacancy "Hellsvacancy FTW" lol
Because there's always plenty of people for me to play against. It was able to take me away from COD4.
I've already stated this. But i'll explain. I'm selling killzone2 atm. Reasons: Great Single Player. Really enjoyed it. Have put in about 50hours MP. And i got bored. I'm not bad at it, got the high rank, got all the weapons. Sniper rifle i love. But there is too much spam. yes i could stay back and sniper all day. But tbh, It's too easy to hit people with the sniper. Respawn is way to fast for this type of game. People spam the objective area, like it's littered with gold. and everybody wants some. 4trillion nades going off it my ears. Rockets wizing by me, and he's only standing 3foot away. Invisible snipers camping spawn points. There are some nice maps. and some poor ones. The game needed more variation, vehicles, bigger maps. Also needs Better voice chat. And last but not least the ranking system for unlocks is way to easy. Well goodbye for now killzone2. If you vastly improve online, i may have to buy you again.